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From Business to Ballots - A Mompreneur's Path to Politics // with Tamie Wilson
Episode 61 • 5th July 2024 • Know Them, Be Them, Raise Them • Carmelita Tiu
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In this episode, host Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, welcomes Tamie, a passionate entrepreneur and political candidate, who shares her journey from being a single mom and business owner to running for Congress. Tamie discusses the importance of women's voices in politics, the unique challenges women face in leadership roles, and her commitment to bringing compassion and civility to government.

Content Highlights:

  • [02:10] Tamie’s Background:
  • Tamie shares her background as a single mom, entrepreneur, and granddaughter of a WWII veteran.
  • Discusses her experience in business and the impact of the pandemic on her career.
  • [05:25] Pivot to Politics:
  • Tamie explains her transition into politics and her motivation to bring civility and the female perspective to politics.
  • [08:45] The Importance of Women in Politics:
  • Tamie talks about how being a mother qualifies women for leadership roles, and how women’s unique perspectives can lead to progress and community improvement.
  • [15:30] Challenges and Double Standards:
  • Tamie addresses the double standards women face in politics, including scrutiny of their appearance and personal lives, and the importance of perseverance and setting boundaries against negativity.
  • [22:50] Compassion and Empathy in Leadership:
  • Tamie speaks about the importance of compassion and empathy in her political campaign.
  • [28:40] Encouragement for Aspiring Female Leaders:
  • Advice to women considering entering politics or leadership roles.
  • The significance of stepping up and taking action without waiting for perfect conditions.
  • [34:10] Final Thoughts and Inspiration

Guest Spotlight: Tamie Wilson

Tamie Wilson, an entrepreneur, single mom and an advocate for all Ohio families, who has made it her life’s work to help people live happier healthier lives. Tamie is also the 2024 Democratic candidate running for the U.S. House of Representatives for Ohio’s 4th Congressional District.

Tamie's "Get Things Done" and her no-nonsense approach to community service led Tamie into politics, especially after she had to shut down her business due to COVID-19. For Tamie, representing the people of Ohio's 4th Congressional district is about addressing the challenges facing Ohioans, most of which she has experienced personally.

With a robust professional background in sales, marketing, counseling, and leadership roles within small business and major corporations, she has helped to retain and create thousands of jobs over the last 23 years. Her proactive “Get Things Done” mindset and common-sense approach to community service and creating a flourishing economy naturally propelled her into the realm of politics, 

In addition, she is deeply involved in work with veterans. Her grandfather was a WWII U.S. Veteran. As a community volunteer, Tamie has been active with the DCPAAA (Delaware Citizens Police Academy Alumni Association), Eagles, UCC (Unity Community Center), LWV (League of Women Voters), the American Cancer Society, the American Heart Association, End CAN, Kiwanis, and other efforts to prevent child abuse and programs to create healthy living.

To learn more and support Tamie, visit her campaign website: tamiewilson.com , follow Tammy on X (@tamieuscongress) and join the conversation on Facebook.

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Carmelita Tiu:

Welcome to know them, be them, raise them, a show to

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help busy, mindful growth oriented

moms stay informed and inspired,

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especially as they're navigating

their daughters tween and teen years.

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I'm Carmelita Tiu, an

unapologetic multihyphenate.

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I'm a mom of two girls, a wife,

a certified life coach for

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multi-passionate impact driven women.

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Also an attorney for

creatives and a podcast host.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host: So

my guest today is someone I was

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introduced to and as soon as I met

her, her energy and passion for the

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work that she does was palpable.

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Tammy is the 2024 democratic

candidate running for the us house

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of representatives for Ohio's

fourth congressional district.

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KA Tammy's proactive get things done

mindset and common sense approach

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to community service and creating a

flourishing economy naturally propelled

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her into the realm of politics.

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For Tammy Congress is an extension of her

lifelong commitment to community service.

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She's an entrepreneur with corporate

marketing sales, counseling, and

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leadership roles in her background.

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She's a single mom and she's an

advocate for all Ohio families.

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This being an election year with so many

issues on the table that impact women,

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I thought it would be a fascinating

conversation to have, and I'm thrilled

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to have her as my guest today.

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Uh, so without further ado,

Tammy, welcome to the podcast.

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. And tell us a little bit about

yourself and your current endeavors.

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Tamie Wilson: Yeah.

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So I am, I don't know if I

should say I was a single mom.

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My son is now 18.

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Um, I'm also an entrepreneur and

granddaughter of a World war two veteran.

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I was married to a Marine for about

years and in:

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new business and when the pandemic

hit, I actually had to shut it down.

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From that experience and watching

George Floyd die on TV and just so

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many different things, you know,

I decided to get into politics.

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And so now I am running for

Congress against a one of the

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top GOP extremists, Jim Jordan.

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And I'm very passionate about bringing

civility and Bringing the women's voice

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to the forefront and inspiring women

to get involved in politics as well.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host: Yeah.

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So it's just recently that you

really leaned into politics.

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Were there any other things that kind

of made it feel like this was the right

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time for you for this to be possible?

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Tamie Wilson: Yeah.

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So I am a biracial woman and watching

the rise in racism in our country

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really concerns me and that really,

you know, sparked me into getting

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involved and actually doing something.

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Watching the direction of our

country, you know, such Hate

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and racism and such division.

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Where are we headed?

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It's not a good place, you

know, and that bothers me.

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I believe that we do better

when we're all doing better.

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I we're only as strong as our weakest

link and we have a lot of weak links.

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I really strongly feel that, uh, Trump's

followers, they feel left behind and

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forgotten . So I understand their

anger and disdain for the government.

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However, people that a lot

of them are, following and.

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exalting really don't

do anything for them.

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And I feel that I cannot just be their

voice, but also their action taker

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to bring the results that they would

really like to see in their future.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host: Hmm.

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So you mentioned at one point in our

earlier conversations that, being

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a mother, Also kind of qualifies

you in a unique way for politics

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and something you just touched on.

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It sounded like you're really coming

at everyone, even if it on the

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surface, they disagree with you.

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You're really coming at it

with a sense of compassion.

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Uh, so tell me a little bit about

maybe how being a mom like you

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said, qualifies people for politics.

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Tamie Wilson: Being a

woman qualifies people.

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You know, we, we really

see the bigger picture.

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We're multitaskers.

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My experience has been, especially

with women entrepreneurs or business

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leaders, uh, community leaders.

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We are extremely compassionate

and worried about community.

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The things that we do are to enrich

the community and to make the world

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a better place for our children.

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A lot of men are more worried

about money and power.

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Women are more worried about safety

and progress from my experience.

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Um, and so I think that having that

framework that vision in mind of, okay,

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are we headed down a path of destruction

or a path of progress and growth?

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And the paths are very clear to me.

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And so that is a major concern.

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I think that women.

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You know, we are aware

of our surroundings.

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We're aware of, you know, it's sort

of like, you know, when you have a

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child, you child proof the home, right?

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Well, you think of all of the

different things that your child

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could get into that could harm them.

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I'm really kind of taking that approach.

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That's where I think we need more

women involved in politics because

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we look at the world differently.

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We experienced the world differently

and our voice and our experiences

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need to be heard, especially now.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host: Yeah.

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It is just so important.

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You know, it's fascinating because

what's coming up as you're sharing

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about women needing to be in politics,

I remember growing up how when I looked

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at pictures of Congress, it, there

was never anyone that looked like me.

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Very few women.

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Maybe one woman of color, and it made it

so my idea of even my, like my bias, my

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default in my head sometimes is to think

of rooms full of Navy suit wearing men.

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Tamie Wilson: Yeah.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host: And I,

as you were talking, it really made

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me think about how, How important it

is for us to change those biases by

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including more women so people can start

envisioning themselves in those spaces.

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So our kids can start seeing that as

normal and not, uh, an anomaly because

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my, I have to admit my brain still when

someone says, Oh, the president of this

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country, like my brain assumes it's a man.

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And you know, the only way we can

change that is by women getting involved

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and changing those default images.

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Tamie Wilson: I mean that what you're

saying is just that hits the nail

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on the head because women make over

50 percent of the population here

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in the US, but we're only 24 percent

in the Senate 26 in the house and

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30 at state and local government.

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But we make over 50%.

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And I don't know where you or your

audiences on the side of abortion,

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you know, it should not be a

political thing, in my opinion,

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it is a very personal thing.

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But when a woman has a miscarriage as

I'm sure you know, a lot of times the

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doctor will perform a DNC to clean out her

system to make sure there are no remnants

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of the deceased fetus still in her body

that could cause disease or death or

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prevent her from having future children.

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Well, we have these lawmakers that

consider that to be an abortion and

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you know, for someone that has a

miscarriage that needs to have a DNC

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to, you know, for her own health.

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You know, to protect her own health

and protect her ability to have more

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children, some procedures are needed

and it should not be a political thing.

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It's just, it's so sad to me that

we're here with this issue, for so

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many women, you know, and they're

going after IVF treatments as well.

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So many people want to have children

and , that is their only avenue for

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some people, how dare anyone take

that ability or right away from anyone.

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It just, it makes absolutely no sense.

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But when you have, I'm going to say male

lawmakers in there that do not understand

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the female anatomy or, you know, medicine,

they're making these political decisions

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and it just really, it's not right.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host: So what

would you say to someone that is,

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you know, feels passionately about

these issues but maybe has not ever

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considered going into politics?

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Or maybe, maybe they are considering

it, but they're tamping down

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that urge or dismissing it.

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Tamie Wilson: Let me tell you.

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This is what the, this is the

mindset of what women go through.

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A lot of times they are mothers, so

they do not want to leave the child.

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And then you have the double standard

of, you know, voters who won't vote for

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women because they have children at home.

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I mean, there's, I learned, I thought

we were so far advanced when it comes to

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women in politics, but we really are not.

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And that was probably the

biggest shocker to me.

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I, I mean, I get so much criticism

for my looks, for my nails, you

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know, I love wearing makeup.

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And I will hear comments that,

Oh, Tammy, you're too pretty.

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Or your lips are too bright.

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Your eyebrows are too dark.

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Your nails are too long.

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Your heels are too high.

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I mean, just so many stupid things.

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But for someone that does

have an interest, just do it.

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Just do it.

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You will figure it out.

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That is what I'm going to tell you.

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A lot of women will say, well,

you know, I shouldn't do it.

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I don't have the experience or I

need to do this, this, this, this,

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and that first, or I need to, uh,

learn this, or I need to learn that.

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No, you don't.

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Just get involved.

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You will.

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Figure it out.

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You will, you are a resourceful woman.

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You will figure it out.

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You will get the information

you need when you need it.

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That is the difference I

feel between men and women.

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We are used to having to fight for it.

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You know, ambitious

women, you know how it is.

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You know, we do, we have to work

harder and smarter than men.

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That is just the bottom line,

especially if you're a woman of

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color, I'm a biracial woman.

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There's so many prejudices out there.

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I'm short.

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I have a high voice.

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I look young.

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But you know, there's so many things

that people have a double standard with

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women that they don't have with men.

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We have to work twice, three times as

hard to overcome all of those prejudices.

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It's just, it's really interesting.

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Yeah.

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But it's worth it.

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It is worth it.

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And once people start listening to

you, once they get over the drama in

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their own head, their own, you know,

obstacles and start listening to you,

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they will be your biggest supporters

and they will work hard for you.

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And it is so awesome to

watch that evolution.

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I had a meeting with this gentleman

the other day, this man has helped run

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gubernatorial races, uh, senatorial

races and You know, he was so critical

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of me and he went from saying, Oh yeah,

well, well, good for you for trying.

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. Yeah, but it was so funny

watching him, you know, go from

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Oh, well, that's kind of cute.

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You know, that's basically what

he was saying to me, but he went

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from that to, wow, I'm so excited.

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I got to meet our next Congresswoman.

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And I'm like, That is right.

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That's it right there.

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Mm.

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You know, half an hour or

so, but I got him there.

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It's funny to watch that with people.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host: I can just

imagine that feeling, how you must have

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felt seeing that evolution from skeptic

to open minded to a believer, essentially.

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And that's, that's really, I think,

What politics is about, right?

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not just speaking to the people

that automatically resonate with

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you, but also the people that might

be a little hesitant or unsure and

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reassuring them and working with them

to get them to that place of belief.

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Tamie Wilson: And that goes

back to the compassion.

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It is all about listening to people.

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People want to be heard.

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They don't want to be patronized.

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They want to be heard and they

want someone to advocate for them.

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And that is my specialty.

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I love helping people.

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That is just, that is what I

was created to do, you know?

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And, and I have the big picture

type of mindset that I can just see

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the bigger picture and I can see,

well, we really need to do this and

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this and that to get that result.

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You know, I think a lot of times

with politics, they just hit the

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surface, which doesn't do anything.

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And that's really what upsets

people and they get no change.

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And that's why they feel so aggravated,

you know, with our government,

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because they're not seeing the

change that they really want to see.

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Well, that's because they don't address

the core issue of what really needs

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to be done to get that transformation.

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And as a coach, you know

what I'm talking about?

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If you don't get the core issue,

if you don't hit the heart of the

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matter, nothing is going to change.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host: I want to

jump back to something you mentioned

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earlier about how you women in politics

or any sort of leadership space are

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often judged unfairly, that we do have

to work twice as hard and, uh, you,

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you essentially in signing up to be

a leader, you may be signing up for

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a heightened level of scrutiny and

judgment, which can feel scary to people.

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And, you know, maybe even turn

some women off because they

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don't want to feel that way.

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Or they might be perfectionists and it

leads to sort of this sense of anxiety.

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Like I can't fail and whatnot.

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And I, I'm curious, like, what are your,

uh, What mental blocks did you have to

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overcome and how did you overcome them

or how do you, because it might be a

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practice given that you are constantly

having to show up and try hard and,

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work to dismantle some of these biases

and stereotypes or snap judgments that

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people might have in these spaces.

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Tamie Wilson: Yeah.

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So I can be very much a perfectionist.

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I like to be liked by people.

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I, I'm not going to say it's

hurtful to get the criticism.

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It's more disappointing.

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I just hate that some people, this

is the biggest thing I had to learn.

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I had to learn that you

cannot win over everyone.

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Some people just want

to be mean and hateful.

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It doesn't matter what you say.

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It doesn't matter how much sense

you make it doesn't matter what

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facts you bring to the table.

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Some people just want to be

mean and hateful and those

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people I'm just like, okay.

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You know, and just keep on, keep on

trucking, you know, but some people,

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so I, I, we kind of test people.

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So when I get those nasty messages,

I'll just, if I feel like it, I

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do my own personal check to say,

okay, do I want to engage or not?

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You know, and if I, sometimes I want

to, sometimes it's for my own humor.

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Sometimes it's, you know, to make a

point or, or just to connect, you know?

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So it just depends on what mood I'm in.

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And so I will, kind of test

the waters, you know, okay.

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Am I dealing with a sane person here?

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Are they just angry?

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Do they just need to be heard?

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You just kind of feel people out.

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And so if I can, or if I'm up to it,

I will engage and, and sometimes, you

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know, we can win those people over, but

I had to get used to one, not checking

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all of the messages, not reading them,

especially for my own, mental wellness.

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I just, I get called a communist,

a commie, a Marxist, a devil

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worshiper, a baby killer.

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I mean, just terrible, terrible things.

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And I'm just like, wow, what is that

person's life like for them to be

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so evil like that, you know, and.

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Sometimes responding to them with

compassion can work, but other

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times it's just like, no, they have

no interest in being kind or civil

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and they just want to be mean, you

know, so sometimes I'm mean back.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host: So what

I'm getting from that is to set

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boundaries like recognize that you're

not going to win everyone over.

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Another thing

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Tamie Wilson: that was a hard one for me.

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So being the perfectionist and I love

psychology and I love helping people.

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I've always been the person that

befriended all the bullies because

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I knew that they were the people

that need love the most, you know?

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And so But yeah, I had, I had to learn to

just shut it down and just move on and.

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That that's hard because you know,

I want everyone to be happy and

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not everyone wants to be happy.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:

Yeah, you know, yeah Yeah,

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Tamie Wilson: you can only control

what you can control right?

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host: Right , right

so a large degree of perhaps acceptance,

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you know of the situation at hand

and Another thing that that came up

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was the idea of when to engage and

how to engage and I just had a guest

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on recently and she was talking about

experiencing antisemitism and her

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initial reaction was to be Kind of

aggressive or very, you know, passionate

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about responding to people that would

throw these hateful things her way.

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Uh, and then realizing that, yes, yes.

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And sometimes when people are observing,

they may not have the whole context.

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So if they only get the snippet of you

being Louder, maybe more, uh, aggressive

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or whatnot than you want to be.

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That becomes the story in their head

about you you know, they may not

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take the time to see the big picture.

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Tamie Wilson: That is so true.

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And so for me running against Jim Jordan.

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So when I first started running, I was

running against another congressman,

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but then when they redrew the maps,

with the redistricting, they cut

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me into Jim Jordan's district.

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And I was like, Oh my gosh,

okay, let's go, you know?

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And I know that being a woman and

running against him and my feeling

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and what I've seen with the district

that, People want a strong fighter.

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They want someone that's going to, you

know, scream at the government for them.

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I mean, give it to them, you know?

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And so I had been presenting myself to

be this really strong, you know, person.

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But it was so interesting I had

gone to this memorial, one of our

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treasurers in one of the counties

he had, he had passed away.

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And so I was at the memorial for him

and I was speaking to the crowd and

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I addressed the family and I said,

I am just so sorry for your loss.

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I mean, it can even choke me up now.

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And, uh, After the, after I sat

down, the gentleman next to me

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goes, wow, you're really empathetic.

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And I was like, oh my God, what am

I presenting to people, you know?

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And, oh my gosh, that was, that was

something to have that realization.

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Wow.

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It was wild.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host: Well, hearing

you speak about the, the work that goes

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into it, the things that you, uh, have to

endure, uh, running and also the reward,

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you know, I can see how you light up.

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And yeah, you can tell that, yeah.

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This has truly become

part of your life's work.

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So I'm honored to share space with you.

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And I'd love to know, is there one

quote or affirmation or a thought that

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you'd like to leave with the listeners?

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Tamie Wilson: You

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know, my favorite quotes are,

as you think, so shall you be.

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I was really raised with the

thought that you can do and be

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anything that you set your mind to.

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Obviously that's not really true.

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I mean, if you went to be an NFL star, but

you can't play football, it's not going

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to happen, you know, but you might coach.

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You know, so I mean, what I've

really been trying to do is to

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inspire women to take their sphere

of influence to the next level.

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Don't just think about just helping.

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Being a volunteer at Red Cross

or, you know, the American

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Cancer Society or something.

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Don't just work your job and

just be the manager or the,

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you know, a CEO or something.

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Take those skills, your sphere

of influence, your experience,

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your, your need or desire to make

the world a better place, To the

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next level and get into politics.

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It is so needed.

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We need more women involved.

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Do not let anything stop you.

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Just do it.

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Go for it.

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That is like my main

thing is just go for it.

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I love how approachable

and real Tammy was.

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It's kind of fun to think this is

this person that's so relatable and I

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can have this conversation with them.

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And she's running for Congress.

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Uh, it just kind of blows

my mind a little bit.

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I so appreciated this conversation.

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Here are my top five takeaways.

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Number one.

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Recognize the importance

of women's voices.

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Women bring unique

perspectives into politics.

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And in many ways we experience

the world differently than men.

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It's important for us to speak about

our experiences and the insights they've

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given us to help inform meaningful change.

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Number two.

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Major life and world events, whether

it's the pandemic, racial tensions,

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inequities, or personal challenges.

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Can ignite a passion for change.

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Allow yourself to pivot

and make inspired moves.

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Listen to your gut and don't

be afraid to take action.

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Number three.

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You can't win over everyone.

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Criticism and negative feedback is

inevitable and there may be some

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people that won't support you no

matter what you say or do just

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stay true to your values and goals.

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And don't let this dissuade you

from continuing on your path.

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Number four, use empathy in leadership.

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Strong advocacy has to be paired

with empathy and compassion.

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People need to feel heard.

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Actively listening and showing

concern and openness will help you

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genuinely advocate for others needs.

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And number five step up.

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If you feel called to lead or serve,

use the skills and passions you have

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and take them to the next level,

by getting involved in politics.

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Your skills and experiences are

valuable and women's voices are needed

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to help make the world a better place.

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To learn more about Tammy and her

campaign visit www dot Tammy Wilson.

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Dot com that's spelled.

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T a M I E.

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wilson.com.

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Carmelita (Cat) Tiu, Host:

Thanks for listening.

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If you like what you heard, tell a

friend, follow the podcast and leave

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a review if you haven't done so yet.

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if you're on Instagram,

follow @knowberaisethem, and

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visit knowberaisethem.Com.

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And lastly, as you may have heard from

the intro, I am a certified coach so

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check out carmelitatiu.com to set up a

30 minute quick mindset reset, you can

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see what it's like to work with a coach.

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And as always here's to strong women.

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May we know them, may we be them?

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And may we raise them.

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