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Dr. Mohit Khera is a world-renowned urologist, researcher, and educator specializing in men’s health, sexual medicine, and hormone replacement therapy. A Professor in the Scott Department of Urology at Baylor College of Medicine, Dr. Khera holds the prestigious F. Brantley Scott Chair in Urology and serves as President of the Sexual Medicine Society of North America. With over 120 published articles, 250 international lectures, and groundbreaking clinical trials, Dr. Khera is a leader in advancing care for erectile dysfunction and other sexual health conditions. Known for his passion for education, he frequently shares his expertise on television, in academic settings, and through public outreach.
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This podcast is for you, the Modern Man. I'm Dr Anne
Anne Truong:Truong, your host. I'm an intimate health medical doctor
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Anne Truong:Men, are you struggling with ED? In this episode, I'm having a
Anne Truong:unique conversation with Dr. Mohit Khera from Baylor College
Anne Truong:of Medicine, a world renowned urologist and an expert in
Anne Truong:erectile dysfunction. He will share his perspective on
Anne Truong:treatment for erectile dysfunction and discover how you
Anne Truong:can regain your confidence and your sexual vitality again. You
Anne Truong:do not have to live with ED. So stay tuned for this whole
Anne Truong:episode. I will guarantee, you will learn something powerful.
Anne Truong:Hello there, modern man. In today's episode, we have one of
Anne Truong:the best urologists in the country, Dr. Mohit Khera,
Anne Truong:because I have been admiring his work for years, and we both
Anne Truong:graduated from the same program. So Dr. Mohit Khera is the
Anne Truong:professor in Department of Urology at Baylor College of
Anne Truong:Medicine, and holds the F. Brantley Scott Chair at urology,
Anne Truong:we'll dive into what that means, and he has published hundreds of
Anne Truong:research papers on men's sexual health, and is really the
Anne Truong:leading researcher and clinician in men's sexual health. I am so
Anne Truong:honored to have him here today in our episode. So welcome, Dr
Anne Truong:Khera.
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: Thank you so much for having me on the show.
Anne Truong:Okay, so I'm gonna ask you some questions that I
Anne Truong:wanted you to share from your perspective. What is the latest
Anne Truong:in men's health at this time? What's working? What we're
Anne Truong:finding out that may not work? Because I know you on the cusp
Anne Truong:of research and about to do great research coming up, and
Anne Truong:I'm going to be following you and as listener, follow him,
Anne Truong:because he is the best in what he does in male sexual health.
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: Thank you. That's a loaded question,
Anne Truong:because there's so much innovation and change going on
Anne Truong:in men's health and sexual health as we speak right now.
Anne Truong:But I think the biggest thing for me is this full paradigm
Anne Truong:shift from being proactive and reactive historically, when in
Anne Truong:sexual dysfunction, we've been very reactive. We wait till the
Anne Truong:man gets erectile dysfunction. He comes into my office, I give
Anne Truong:him Viagra, and he goes on his way. That is reactive. And what
Anne Truong:we're now seeing is we're changing the paradigm. We're
Anne Truong:being proactive. We're preventing the erectile
Anne Truong:dysfunction from happening in the first place, and how do we
Anne Truong:do that? Diet, exercise, sleep, stress reduction. People are
Anne Truong:becoming much more aware of their bodies and preventing it.
Anne Truong:They're taking more care into their hormone profiles, looking
Anne Truong:at their testosterone level, women, for example, their
Anne Truong:estrogen, testosterone, progesterone, and we're also
Anne Truong:focusing on regenerative therapies. I know we talked
Anne Truong:about that earlier, just about stem cells and PRP and shock
Anne Truong:wave. And now we're looking into new things such as radio
Anne Truong:frequency, potentially hyperbaric oxygen. So there's a
Anne Truong:lot of new things on the horizon. But I think the biggest
Anne Truong:thing for me, and I think the most interesting, is this
Anne Truong:paradigm shift of shifting from, let me just give you Viagra. I'm
Anne Truong:actually going to give you a treatment like diet exercise,
Anne Truong:sleep and stress reduction.
Anne Truong:Wow. So that's a loaded question. What does that
Anne Truong:mean? Can you clarify diet, exercise, sleep and stress
Anne Truong:reduction, so our listener can have an idea what really that
Anne Truong:mean?
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: Yeah, let's take a step back. If you look at
Anne Truong:all the podcasts that we're listening to today. You're going
Anne Truong:to hear two big buzz words. The first word is lifespan. The
Anne Truong:second one is health span. You hear health span and lifespan
Anne Truong:over and over again. And so Anne, you and I both want our
Anne Truong:health span to last as long as our lifespan. I don't want to
Anne Truong:live till 80, but only be healthy till 60. That would not
Anne Truong:be good for me. Well, interestingly, most people think
Anne Truong:about their sex ban. Your sex band is the portion of your life
Anne Truong:where you'll be able to engage in satisfying sexual activity.
Anne Truong:We, most of us, want our sex band to last as long as our
Anne Truong:lifespan, and so that's very important. And so how do you do.
Anne Truong:Diet? Well, many of the techniques that you're hearing
Anne Truong:online and hearing on these podcasts of how to improve your
Anne Truong:health span is are the same things that improve your sex
Anne Truong:span. So when I talk about diet, diets that typically are anti
Anne Truong:inflammatory, that have high antioxidants, a low glycemic
Anne Truong:index, typically have more impact on improving sexual
Anne Truong:function. The one that's quoted the most is the Mediterranean
Anne Truong:diet. We have the most data on the Mediterranean diet for
Anne Truong:sexual dysfunction. Now, I don't think the Mediterranean diets
Anne Truong:right for everybody, and I think what's unique about the
Anne Truong:Mediterranean diet is it does have it's very high
Anne Truong:antioxidants. It's a low inflammatory diet. We talk about
Anne Truong:sleep. Do you need at least seven to eight hours of sleep a
Anne Truong:night to help improve your sexual function. If you get less
Anne Truong:than six hours of sleep per night, it actually is
Anne Truong:detrimental to your sexual function. It can actually impair
Anne Truong:sexual function. Some people say, Well, Doctor, I heard, the
Anne Truong:more sleep I get, the better sexual function I'll have. But
Anne Truong:that's not exactly true. Roughly around nine hours, it plateaus.
Anne Truong:So sleeping 12 hours doesn't make your erections better. You
Anne Truong:really want to be in that sweet spot of seven to eight hours,
Anne Truong:and remember that it's not just the amount of hours you sleep.
Anne Truong:We also talk about quality of sleep, right? So you want to
Anne Truong:have good quality, good REM good, deep sleep. And you also
Anne Truong:want to mitigate sleep disorders, the number one sleep
Anne Truong:disorder causing sexual dysfunction in the world is
Anne Truong:sleep apnea. Sleep Apnea significant increases sexual
Anne Truong:dysfunction. The number two disorder in the world is
Anne Truong:insomnia. So just be careful, if you have these conditions,
Anne Truong:addressing those conditions can make a big difference.
Anne Truong:Wow. So I want to kind of circle back a little bit
Anne Truong:when you say, why is there a paradigm shift from reactive to
Anne Truong:preventative? Now, what has happened that created that?
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: I think the biggest is social media and
Anne Truong:podcasts. People are listening to social media. They're
Anne Truong:listening but they had, did not have this vehicle in the past.
Anne Truong:And that is really important. If you look at the health podcast,
Anne Truong:look just like this one. Now. People are getting their
Anne Truong:education through you, not through the newspaper anymore,
Anne Truong:not through the TV anymore. They're getting their education
Anne Truong:through you. And what you'll see on many of these podcasts is
Anne Truong:they're talking about improving health, improving the quality of
Anne Truong:health, and being proactive about your health. Whether some
Anne Truong:people talk about red light therapy, they talk about
Anne Truong:meditation, and mindfulness. I mean, everything is about
Anne Truong:So I love how you use the word sex span. That's the first I've
Anne Truong:improving your health, and so these in effect, are actually
Anne Truong:improving your sex being it's the same thing. Let's take
Anne Truong:exercise for a second. We published a paper two years ago
Anne Truong:showing that exercise alone, just exercise, significantly
Anne Truong:reverses erectile dysfunction. In our study, we looked at 11
Anne Truong:meta analysis, and it was on average 40 minutes four times a
Anne Truong:week. That's all you gotta remember. 40 minutes four times
Anne Truong:a week. It's 160 minutes over a period of six months,
Anne Truong:significantly increased the IIEF for the erectile function
Anne Truong:scores. What's so interesting is the more severe the erectile
Anne Truong:dysfunction you had, the greater the improvements in IIEF scores,
Anne Truong:and that's just with exercise right now, if I tell someone to
Anne Truong:do 40 minutes of moderate to vigorous exercise four times a
Anne Truong:week, I will significantly reverse and improve their sex
Anne Truong:band. But guess what, Anne, I'm also going to improve their
Anne Truong:health. I'm also going to improve their lifespan. I mean,
Anne Truong:I get other benefits besides just improving their sex band.
Anne Truong:So I think the same principles that we use for health span and
Anne Truong:lifespan absolutely apply to sexpan.
Anne Truong:heard of it, and it's almost like, Hey, if you improve your
Anne Truong:sexual health, you will live longer. So that may motivate
Anne Truong:people to correlate both of it, because everybody want to live
Anne Truong:longer and be healthy and have quality of life. But what we
Anne Truong:find out in this view, is that it's so hard to motivate people
Anne Truong:to exercise.
Anne Truong:Yes, no, I agree, but I will tell you very interesting story.
Anne Truong:There was a study that came out of Saint Louis, and they were
Anne Truong:looking at young men, 18 to 40, and they looked at them coming
Anne Truong:in with a diagnosis of ED and they would screen them for
Anne Truong:diabetes. And what they found was that roughly 30% of the men
Anne Truong:who came in for a diagnosis of erectile dysfunction had
Anne Truong:actually pre diabetes or diabetes on diagnosis, that's a
Anne Truong:lot of people, 30% now I want you to think about when you and
Anne Truong:I were 3025, 30. We don't go see the doctor a 28 year old I'm not
Anne Truong:going to go in and go get my blood pressure checked. I have
Anne Truong:other things to do. I'm not going to go in and get my
Anne Truong:cholesterol, my sugar checked. But if a 28 year old man gets
Anne Truong:erectile dysfunction, he is the first person at my door tomorrow
Anne Truong:morning saying I got a problem. And why is that important?
Anne Truong:Because I believe that sexual dysfunction is the gateway to
Anne Truong:treating all the other medical conditions. If he's going to
Anne Truong:come in for that moment, I have a window and opportunity. Unity,
Anne Truong:to screen that hemoglobin A1C to look at those lipids, to see
Anne Truong:what else is going on with his health. And if I tell him that,
Anne Truong:if you improve your blood sugar, you will actually improve your
Anne Truong:sexual function, many men are more motivated do that than if I
Anne Truong:just say, Hey, you got pre diabetes. Keep an eye on it.
Anne Truong:Let's try to improve it, they will be more motivated to take
Anne Truong:care of their health. Do sexual function, and that, in a way,
Anne Truong:has a trickle down effect on all the other comorbidities.
Anne Truong:So that's going to lead me to the next two
Anne Truong:questions. So, since we're talking about younger men,
Anne Truong:what's going on? Why are we seeing younger men now with ED?
Anne Truong:We should see that more in the men over 60 or 50. Why? What's
Anne Truong:going on?
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: Let's look at many different reasons why.
Anne Truong:We'll start with just a general statement about the population
Anne Truong:is becoming more unhealthy decade after decade. If I showed
Anne Truong:you a graph of obesity, diabetes and metabolic syndrome, a graph
Anne Truong:and I show you decade by decade, the percentage of men who have
Anne Truong:obesity, diabetes and metabolic syndrome from the ages of 18 to
Anne Truong:40, you're going to see it skyrocketing in the United
Anne Truong:States like this, and that lines in the mimic ED rates in men, as
Anne Truong:well as population because diabetes is the number one risk
Anne Truong:factor of having ED four times more likely obesity. All of
Anne Truong:these conditions also significantly drop serum
Anne Truong:testosterone levels, no question. So as I drop the serum
Anne Truong:testosterone level, as I become more obese, diabetes, these are
Anne Truong:comorbidities that will take a hit on erectile function. Number
Anne Truong:three is that there is now a era of social media, and what's
Anne Truong:happening is the porn has significantly increased, and
Anne Truong:when you see a significant amount of pornography. What
Anne Truong:happens is your expectation is far greater than your reality,
Anne Truong:and so that delta can cause many of these men to develop erectile
Anne Truong:dysfunction. So we ask them, Do you have many men? Say, look, I
Anne Truong:have ED. I can't get erection. I say, How about by yourself? Oh,
Anne Truong:no problem. Okay, then now I got the idea, if you have
Anne Truong:masturbation, I have no issue. How about in the morning when
Anne Truong:you wake up? No issue. But with my partner, I have ED, what
Anne Truong:they're telling you is they have psychogenic ED, and I've seen
Anne Truong:the rate of psychogenic ED go up, and I think it has to do
Anne Truong:with porn. I think it has a lot to do with social media and the
Anne Truong:lack of interaction we all have now, most of our interactions
Anne Truong:with the phone and not with other people.
Anne Truong:Well, not to mention now AI. I was at a
Anne Truong:conference, and now I'm looking at chat GPT, and you can
Anne Truong:converse with it. Now there's a voice chat GPT, you can converse
Anne Truong:with that. Even give it a name, will be as if you're talking to
Anne Truong:a person. So imagine that if you're at home, you can talk to
Anne Truong:somebody else that could you could give it a name, it's like
Anne Truong:you don't even have to leave the house anymore now, right?
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: Right, but, but now there's a whole era of
Anne Truong:marketing coming out with sexual AI. In other words, you can find
Anne Truong:a partner online who will talk to you. And there was one study
Anne Truong:that I just wasn't a study. It was just a it was an article
Anne Truong:describing a gentleman who had fell in love with his AI bot
Anne Truong:wanted, and you have to pay every time you talk, and
Anne Truong:roughly, spend almost $2 million and trying to keep this
Anne Truong:conversation going and this relationship going. So I think
Anne Truong:it's you just gotta be careful, because I think AI and what's
Anne Truong:happening in the world of Sexual Medicine is going to change
Anne Truong:drastically.
Anne Truong:So what you were saying that the person was not a
Anne Truong:person. It was an AI you were talking to?
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: Right. Fell in love with, could not stop
Anne Truong:talking to, was sexually attracted to, and it was, I
Anne Truong:believe it was, roughly $2 million astonishing number. But
Anne Truong:in other words, you just have to realize that these AI bots and
Anne Truong:the area of Sexual Medicine is growing. There are now Virtual
Anne Truong:Reality places that you can go into to have sexual encounters
Anne Truong:with AI bots as well. So it's changing our field of sexuality,
Anne Truong:and how we perceive sexuality. How we have sex is changing.
Anne Truong:So what are your views on that when we're now
Anne Truong:moving to virtual reality and so forth. Obviously not good,
Anne Truong:because we're social being, and we're taking away that touch and
Anne Truong:feel, that sensation. What are your views on that?
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: So I'm personally against it at this
Anne Truong:point. I mean, I just feel that there's something important
Anne Truong:about the human connection. There's something important
Anne Truong:about being intimate with another person. It's my personal
Anne Truong:opinion. I think there are others that say this is great.
Anne Truong:You do things on your own. And personally, I do feel that it's
Anne Truong:important to have the human connection, keep the intimacy
Anne Truong:and keep that relationship going with another person. I think
Anne Truong:it's important.
Anne Truong:You just give me an idea for my next episode to talk
Anne Truong:about virtual reality, virtual AI, so another question was that
Anne Truong:you give me the scenario of a younger man who's more motivated
Anne Truong:because he has ED and that is a gateway for opening a gateway
Anne Truong:for better health for him down the road. What about I wouldn't
Anne Truong:say older, but a man over 5055, that has. ED. What would be your
Anne Truong:approach for him versus a younger male in their 20s?
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: Sure, you know most of the time, the younger
Anne Truong:patients are more likely to have psychogenic ED, so you just want
Anne Truong:to be careful about asking about getting morning erections and
Anne Truong:masturbation. But older men typically have comorbid
Anne Truong:conditions that they've acquired that have now caused them to
Anne Truong:have erectile dysfunction. And my only wish, my only hope, was
Anne Truong:that I had had to had the opportunity to meet them earlier
Anne Truong:in life, to where I could change the trajectory so they're not
Anne Truong:coming to me at 55 and we could have done things earlier to
Anne Truong:prevent the ED from happening at that time. Maybe it would have
Anne Truong:been lifestyle modification, could have been hormonal, could
Anne Truong:be with your partner. So those are things that you think about.
Anne Truong:But if he comes in, obviously, I want to first look at everything
Anne Truong:that could be hurting his erectile function, modifiable
Anne Truong:risk factors. Maybe it's an SSRI, an anti androgen. Maybe
Anne Truong:they're on finasteride. Maybe they're on something that's
Anne Truong:causing them to have the ED. So you want to take away the
Anne Truong:enticing so whatever's causing the ED away, then you want to
Anne Truong:look at other modifiable risk factors. And we talked about
Anne Truong:this earlier, but it's lifestyle modification, diet, exercise,
Anne Truong:sleep, stress reduction. I want to optimize the hormones,
Anne Truong:particularly the testosterone level. Optimizing the
Anne Truong:testosterone can significantly help this patient. And then once
Anne Truong:you've done all that, you have to make sure you ask about the
Anne Truong:partner, and I'll just give you a story. When I finished my
Anne Truong:Wow. So what you're saying is that if you treat one
Anne Truong:fellowship, I was very proud of myself, and I was able to get
Anne Truong:these men, these amazing erections, great, livid, and
Anne Truong:they would go home and they would have noone have sex with,
Anne Truong:because their wives would say, one woman called me. She said,
Anne Truong:Look, things were great until he met you, and now we fight all
Anne Truong:the time because he wants to have sex and I don't, and we
Anne Truong:haven't had sex in 10 years. And now we fight all the time, and
Anne Truong:it's because of you. And I thought to myself, she's right.
Anne Truong:I mean, either leave both libidos low or leave put both
Anne Truong:libidos high, but you never put one high and one low, right?
Anne Truong:That's a big mistake. And so very quickly that year, I flew
Anne Truong:out, I spent some time with Erwin Goldstein, who's the god
Anne Truong:bother of female sexual dysfunction. Went a lot of his
Anne Truong:courses at ish wish. And for 6017, years now, I've been
Anne Truong:treating women. Because by treating the woman, I'm actually
Anne Truong:treating the man. By treating the man, I'm actually treating
Anne Truong:the woman. The best examples I can give you. And have you and
Anne Truong:have you seen this over and over again? Erwin Goldstein did a
Anne Truong:study with Levitra. He took men and he gave half the men
Anne Truong:Levitra, Half the men placebo. He said, I don't want to meet
Anne Truong:your female partner, but can you give her this questionnaire at
Anne Truong:the beginning and the end of the study? It's called the fsfi
Anne Truong:female sexual function index, most commonly used. He gave the
Anne Truong:questioner to all the women at home, what he found was that
Anne Truong:those men who had the Vitra had an improvement in the rectal
Anne Truong:function. Those women at home also had a significant
Anne Truong:improvement in their female sexual function, meaning
Anne Truong:arousal, libido, orgasmic function, and those men who got
Anne Truong:placebo, those women, saw no improvements in their sexual
Anne Truong:function. So think about this, and I am actually treating a
Anne Truong:woman by just treating the male partner, I'm seeing significant
Anne Truong:improvements, just like I'd see if I gave her a pill or I gave
Anne Truong:her testosterone. And we did studies showing the opposite. If
Anne Truong:I treat her and I skyrocket her libido. Guess what happens? His
Anne Truong:erection is improved, so it's linked. You can't just treat one
Anne Truong:person without addressing the other person at home.
Anne Truong:partner, the other partner will also improve, even though you're
Anne Truong:not directly treating their spouse or significant other.
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: Absolutely. Absolutely well documented, well
Anne Truong:shown. So when I treat that male partner in my office or that
Anne Truong:female partner in my office, I know that the sexual function of
Anne Truong:the other partner at home will improve. The problem is, is that
Anne Truong:we have to actually address what's going on like the biggest
Anne Truong:mistake you can do is give the man via Go and tell me the home
Anne Truong:not even ask about the female partner. What if this partner
Anne Truong:does not want to have sex? What if this partner is there's an
Anne Truong:issue, there's something you want to address them both as a
Anne Truong:couple, if you want to improve the efficacy of that whole
Anne Truong:relationship, giving him Viagra and telling him to go is not the
Anne Truong:solution. You need to say, Tell me about your partner. Is she
Anne Truong:post menopausal? Does she have pain with intercourse? Anyone
Anne Truong:who has pain is going to avoid the activity the house or
Anne Truong:libido. Any issue with arousal? Has there any issues with
Anne Truong:orgasmic dysfunction? How is the quality of the relationship? Oh,
Anne Truong:have you seen my sex therapist? She's amazing. So there's things
Anne Truong:you can do to make that much better, but the handing the
Anne Truong:Viagra and saying goodbye is a mistake.
Anne Truong:I love that, and I encountered this a lot, where
Anne Truong:we'll treat the men and their functioning, but the women who
Anne Truong:are maybe in their 50s or 60s, or going to menopause and 10,
Anne Truong:you know, we're done. We have kids out of the house. We're
Anne Truong:done. I'm not interested in sex anymore. How do you address that
Anne Truong:scenario?
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: So it depends on what the problem is. Let's
Anne Truong:define what female sexual dysfunction is. FSD has four.
Anne Truong:Components, decrease libido, decrease arousal, orgasmic
Anne Truong:dysfunction, or pain within a horse. If you have one of these
Anne Truong:four, and you're bothered by the condition, you suffer from FSD.
Anne Truong:So if a woman comes in and says, I have low libido, but I really
Anne Truong:don't care, not bothered by it, I say, okay, then you don't
Anne Truong:suffer from FSD. How many women in the United States suffer from
Anne Truong:FSD, 43 to 48% that is a lot of women. 43 to 48% how many of
Anne Truong:those women actually get therapy? Less than 9% so that is
Anne Truong:a big population of women that are suffering in silence. I call
Anne Truong:that suffering in silence. Many of them say, I don't know where
Anne Truong:to go. Many of them, when they go to their OB GYN say they
Anne Truong:don't want to treat it, they don't treat FSD, and so they
Anne Truong:just try to find ways to get cures for this problem. And it's
Anne Truong:actually very sad there should be better resources. The other
Anne Truong:problem is, there's very minimal research in FSD. We have a lot
Anne Truong:more research in ED, erectile dysfunction, but the amount of
Anne Truong:money that we spend on FSD is a fraction of what we spend in
Anne Truong:men, but in either case, if she has those symptoms, then we try
Anne Truong:to figure out what is the best way to address it. I think that
Anne Truong:looking at the triangle is very important. For me. The triangle
Anne Truong:is estrogen, progesterone and testosterone. Most people only
Anne Truong:look at estrogen, progesterone, you have to look at testosterone
Anne Truong:in women. Is extremely important. It's the number one
Anne Truong:driver for sexual desire in women, even more than estrogen.
Anne Truong:In fact, a woman makes more testosterone in her body than
Anne Truong:she does estrogen. So we have to look at the triangle. We look at
Anne Truong:the outside triangle, which is cortisol. We look at that
Anne Truong:thyroid, which is very important, a growth hormone, any
Anne Truong:other outside hormones that we can look at are very important.
Anne Truong:And then don't forget, I think I tell the woman, this is a 5050,
Anne Truong:you're going to help me with diet, exercise, sleep and
Anne Truong:stress. Most women I can see start doing some exercise. They
Anne Truong:do some change your diet. It's the sleep and stress in women
Anne Truong:that I see take a big hit. And if a woman is fatigued, let's
Anne Truong:say she's exhausted. It's 10 o'clock at night and she has a
Anne Truong:choice between sex and sleeping, she's most likely to sleep. I'm
Anne Truong:just going to tell you right now, a man, he still makes you
Anne Truong:sex, even if he's tired, but a woman is typically going to say
Anne Truong:and especially on stress. Think about this, many men use sex to
Anne Truong:relieve their stress. That's a common thing. Many men use sex
Anne Truong:because women typically have to relieve their stress in order to
Anne Truong:have sex. It's kind of the opposite. And I tell these men,
Anne Truong:I say, Look, you want to engage in sexual activity with your
Anne Truong:wife, take her to Hawaii, take her on a trip. Relieve her
Anne Truong:stress, help her with anything she can, and drop her stress
Anne Truong:level. Her desire will go up, but take her out of the
Anne Truong:stressful environment. So again, we're different, and I think
Anne Truong:it's really important to understand her situation, what's
Anne Truong:going on, but to not address the female partner when you're
Anne Truong:taking care of the male patient, I think, is a mistake.
Anne Truong:And now, do you always do that? When you treat
Anne Truong:the male you also encourage their female partner to come in
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: I do many times they don't, but I will go
Anne Truong:as well.
Anne Truong:through the same question or ask the male patient, tell me about
Anne Truong:her desire for sex. Tell me about arousal. Do you have any
Anne Truong:pain within a course? How old is she? She post menopausal? She
Anne Truong:don't any hormones? Is she on any SSRIs that's going to set
Anne Truong:down her libido and say, I'm always willing to help. But many
Anne Truong:women don't feel comfortable. Sometimes they say, Look, I have
Anne Truong:a little libido, but I'm happy with it. I say, great. So that's
Anne Truong:fine. So some couples do come in together, which is great, and
Anne Truong:that's a great discussion. Some women come in after I see the
Anne Truong:male, then they'll come in afterward and say, Look, my
Anne Truong:husband told me that you may be able to help. And I say, Great,
Anne Truong:let's talk. But when they come in, it's not just about handing
Anne Truong:her hormones and pills like it's not just about giving her
Anne Truong:estrogen, progesterone, handing her some testosterone, some
Anne Truong:vaginal estrogen, and saying goodbye, we go heavy, heavy
Anne Truong:lifestyle modification. Um, she's gotta help me with the
Anne Truong:lifestyle modification, whether it be weight reduction. Now, I
Anne Truong:have found one thing that's actually helped a lot of men and
Anne Truong:women, more than even hormones and when it comes to sexual
Anne Truong:dysfunction, and that's weight loss. You know, when a woman
Anne Truong:loses 3040, pounds, she feels amazing. She feels like a new
Anne Truong:person, new clothes, new outlook, self image skyrockets,
Anne Truong:and obviously helps with the joint pain and the blood sugars
Anne Truong:and the hypertension and the cholesterol. I mean, a lot of
Anne Truong:other things improve as well, but we use a lot of GLP1 in the
Anne Truong:Select population of patients, and putting him or her on the
Anne Truong:GLP1 has really made a difference in my practice.
Anne Truong:So you put them on GLP one and on a hormone
Anne Truong:replacement therapy at the same time, or use diagram, yes,
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: it's synergistic. So remember this,
Anne Truong:and we're almost done with this. We're doing a trial now at
Anne Truong:Baylor, where if you give someone a GLP1 agonist, they
Anne Truong:actually can start seeing a loss in muscle mass too.
Anne Truong:Unfortunately, because you're decreasing your caloric intake
Anne Truong:and the muscle mass will go down in hypogonadal patients or women
Anne Truong:with low T if you put them on testosterone and ask them to
Anne Truong:lift weights, to lift muscle mass, then we don't see a
Anne Truong:significant decline in muscle mass, because testosterone is
Anne Truong:anabolic, it actually increases muscle mass and decreases body
Anne Truong:fat. So very important that if. You can use these together.
Anne Truong:They're very synergistic. I'm not saying I mean treating a man
Anne Truong:who has a normal testosterone level will not help putting him
Anne Truong:on more testosterone. But in most cases, I would say in most
Anne Truong:cases, but typically, I say that these medications, the GLP1 and
Anne Truong:testosterone, are very effective together.
Anne Truong:So you feel that most men and women after the age
Anne Truong:of maybe 50 to 55, when the testosterone level dropped for
Anne Truong:women and men that they should be on a hormone replacement
Anne Truong:therapy?
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: If they're symptomatic. Well, party lines
Anne Truong:if they're symptomatic but I would say that I do think that
Anne Truong:there is beneficial effects beyond just being symptomatic.
Anne Truong:For example, testosterone is one of the best markers of overall
Anne Truong:health. If a man has low testosterone, we know that he's
Anne Truong:at a higher risk of having a heart attack, non-negotiable.
Anne Truong:Increases risk for MI. Low testosterone increases risk
Anne Truong:demands for diabetes and obesity, non-negotiable.
Anne Truong:Increases his risk for bone and bone fracture. We know that
Anne Truong:osteopenia and osteoporosis significantly go up in these
Anne Truong:patients. We also know that low test also increases the risk for
Anne Truong:depression. It was my study significant increases for
Anne Truong:depression. So forget sex. I told you if I had a blood test
Anne Truong:that I could order that would give you a window to your heart,
Anne Truong:to depression, to diabetes, obesity, bone fracture. We know
Anne Truong:that low test also has been associated with prostate cancer
Anne Truong:risk as well. You show me in another blood test I can get
Anne Truong:that's a better marker of men's overall health. It's not TSH,
Anne Truong:it's not lipids, it's not C reactive proteins, it's not your
Anne Truong:gas, doctor, not a single blood test is a better marker of
Anne Truong:everything I just told you in men's health, and that blood
Anne Truong:test also gives you a window of symptoms, energy, libido,
Anne Truong:erectile function. So every man over the age of 40, I believe,
Anne Truong:should have a serum testosterone level checked annually. And we
Anne Truong:started a nonprofit. It's called the testosterone project. The
Anne Truong:testosterone project has three missions. One, increased testing
Anne Truong:for all men over the age of 40, every man. Number two, that we
Anne Truong:should actually deregulate testosterone. It's shocking to
Anne Truong:me that testosterone, and natural hormone that we make, is
Anne Truong:treated just like Vicodin, where it's regulated in the same
Anne Truong:capacity. And three, the mission of the testosterone project is
Anne Truong:to bring testosterone to women through the FDA and make it
Anne Truong:available. I mean, think about this. Testosterone has been
Anne Truong:around since 1935 so that's when it was first synthesized by moon
Anne Truong:in lucica, 1935 shortly after testosterone was used in women
Anne Truong:in the late 1930s if you and I walked into Walgreens today and
Anne Truong:said, Give me all the testosterone for men put out
Anne Truong:over 20 products sitting on top of the counter, I said, Give me
Anne Truong:all the testosterone products available for women, zero, not
Anne Truong:one. FDA approved testosterone product in for women, if we went
Anne Truong:to Australia, that would be if we went to UK, we could get a
Anne Truong:test. Also for women, not in the US, we have to improvise. We
Anne Truong:have to use the testosterone. For men, use 110th dose. We have
Anne Truong:to compound it with the cream. We have to be creative. But she
Anne Truong:can't go in. She says, Look, my husband goes in. He pays $10
Anne Truong:copay. I go in, I gotta pay full price. Why? Why do I have to pay
Anne Truong:and he doesn't. We both make testosterone. In fact, I make
Anne Truong:one makes more testosterone any woman in the body, but I have to
Anne Truong:pay full price. Why? It doesn't make any sense. And so that's
Anne Truong:one of the goals of a testosterone browser.
Anne Truong:I love that. I have to check that out as well too.
Anne Truong:But that we know there's always been a sexual disparity in
Anne Truong:research for men versus women health, like how many medication
Anne Truong:there are for ED versus how many medication there are for female
Anne Truong:sexual dysfunction.
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: I want to give you an example of that. So Anne,
Anne Truong:remember this for many years, if in 2014 if you went again to
Anne Truong:Walgreen, just said, Give me all the sexual dysfunction drugs for
Anne Truong:men, over 30 drugs. In 2014 we had zero approved for women. It
Anne Truong:wasn't till 2015 when flibanserin got first FDA
Anne Truong:approved, the first drug for women ever, for FSD. Then it
Anne Truong:came out till 2015 several years later, we had Vyleesi, which
Anne Truong:came out, and then we have two. But can you imagine the amount
Anne Truong:of research that we have devoted to female sexual dysfunction?
Anne Truong:It's just a fraction. And the amount of treatment options we
Anne Truong:have for women is just a fraction of what we have for
Anne Truong:men, which is unfortunate, because, as I mentioned earlier,
Anne Truong:up to 48% of women, the US suffer from this condition. And
Anne Truong:now I turn around and say, I don't have much to offer. I
Anne Truong:mean, fortunately, we have starting to see some traction,
Anne Truong:but we need more research.
Anne Truong:So when you say 48%, is that all from over 40 or
Anne Truong:just across anything over?
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: I think, I believe it was over 40. The
Anne Truong:studies showed 40. I forgot the cut off age where he started. To
Anne Truong:be honest with you.
Anne Truong:Yeah, I think it's over 40. Yeah, we've heard that
Anne Truong:around 50% it's probably an underestimate actually, because
Anne Truong:that study with a long time ago.
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: But I do think that it's underestimate. I think
Anne Truong:many women who suffer from FSD don't talk about it. I mean,
Anne Truong:there's a stigma about sexual dysfunction. I give you an
Anne Truong:example. I was giving a lecture, and I said to everyone in the
Anne Truong:crowd, can you raise your hand if. You suffer from
Anne Truong:hypertension, and actually quite a hand. Few hands went up. Then
Anne Truong:I asked, Can you raise your hand if you have sexual dysfunction?
Anne Truong:Almost no. One hand went up. It was a woman. One hand, okay. And
Anne Truong:you know very well statistically that that's not true, because up
Anne Truong:to 48% of women will have FSD. And we know if you look at the
Anne Truong:men's statistics, 40% of men have ed at 40, 50% at 50, 60% at
Anne Truong:60, 70% at 70, 100% at 100. It's one of the most prevalent
Anne Truong:conditions out there. But we will not raise our hand for
Anne Truong:sexual dysfunction. We have no problem raising our hand for
Anne Truong:hypertension. We have to destigmatize it's okay to have
Anne Truong:sexual dysfunction. It's a normal part of aging. It's okay.
Anne Truong:Now there's ways to mitigate that and change it, but it's
Anne Truong:Shouldn't it be destigmatized. You should not be embarrassed.
Anne Truong:I love that. So it's okay to have sexual
Anne Truong:dysfunction. It doesn't mean you're less of a woman or less
Anne Truong:of a man. And as we work in sexual health, they always
Anne Truong:think, Oh, my God, it's like cancer, but it's as it's part of
Anne Truong:aging, but definitely can be managed like diabetes or
Anne Truong:obesity. It can be managed almost the same way it has a
Anne Truong:heart condition, right?
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: So think about this, if a 60 year old man comes
Anne Truong:into me and says, I cannot believe I have erectile
Anne Truong:dysfunction, what's going on? I say, did you know you're the
Anne Truong:minority? Do you know that 60% of men at 60 actually have
Anne Truong:erectile dysfunction. More men that your age have it than do
Anne Truong:not. And then they sit there and say, oh, and actually feel
Anne Truong:better. They realize I'm not alone. Many people suffer from
Anne Truong:this condition, and it's not unique to me, and I think that's
Anne Truong:very important. We didn't talk about something very important.
Anne Truong:You know, sexual dysfunction is one of the best barometers of a
Anne Truong:man's overall health, that if a man gets erectile dysfunction
Anne Truong:today, you know that 15% will have a heart attack or a stroke
Anne Truong:within seven years, 15% many people have also shown that if a
Anne Truong:man has ED today, he's much more likely to get diabetes, almost
Anne Truong:two times likely to get diabetes than a man who does not ED is
Anne Truong:increased risk for not only heart attack and stroke, but
Anne Truong:increased mortality. Men with ED are much more likely to die, 25%
Anne Truong:increased risk if they have ED today. So it is a window of not
Anne Truong:only cardiovascular risk, mortality, diabetes, also
Anne Truong:depression and anxiety. So it's not just this erectile
Anne Truong:dysfunction. He's trying to tell you that something's going to
Anne Truong:come in the future, and we need to talk about it and take care
Anne Truong:I love that. And not a lot of doctors are aware
Anne Truong:of it now.
Anne Truong:of the different treatment for ED other than Hey, they go and
Anne Truong:talk to their primary care doctor, they give them Viagra,
Anne Truong:and some don't even do blood work or look at their hormones
Anne Truong:or even assess whether it's psychological or not. They're
Anne Truong:either on the ED meds and then progressive tri mix as well,
Anne Truong:without really looking at the other lifestyle factors that are
Anne Truong:important that we talk about. And as you know, is just take
Anne Truong:extra training. My daughter right now is in medical school.
Anne Truong:She's in third year medical school here in Virginia, and I'm
Anne Truong:just flabbergasted at the amount of education they're even
Anne Truong:getting now we're talking about 2024, 2025 she did her third
Anne Truong:year, about to become a doctor in about a year, nothing been
Anne Truong:taught, even in the first and second year about hormones and
Anne Truong:hormone replacement therapy or even preventative therapy.
Anne Truong:They're being taught almost the same thing that I had one I was
Anne Truong:in med school from '89 to '93 It is astonishing that there is
Anne Truong:nothing on hormone replacement therapy. She's rotating through
Anne Truong:her OB, and she's about to do urology during the OB. Nothing
Anne Truong:on hormone replacement therapy for women, or even sexual
Anne Truong:dysfunction discussion, even in her clinical rotation, and we
Anne Truong:have to learn all that post residency or even post
Anne Truong:fellowship. Have there been changes in curriculum in Baylor
Anne Truong:about that at all.
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: Yes. So you know you're absolutely correct.
Anne Truong:Very few medical schools teach sexual dysfunction. Very few
Anne Truong:people get their training even in residency with sexual
Anne Truong:dysfunction hormones. Most of the time, you know, where they
Anne Truong:learn it, they learn it from podcasts. They learn from
Anne Truong:meetings, CME meetings that we put on. You've been to one. We
Anne Truong:talked about this in Orlando. I mean, there are meetings that
Anne Truong:you'll get that's where they get their education from. It's not
Anne Truong:during their true medical education training. Now I'm
Anne Truong:going to talk about an organization called the Sexual
Anne Truong:Medicine Society of North America, by far the best
Anne Truong:organization on the planet. I would say, when it comes to
Anne Truong:sexual medicine and education. And the Sexual Medicine Society
Anne Truong:of North America has now started a new initiative to
Anne Truong:significantly increase medical school education in sexual
Anne Truong:medicine in all 50 states, and so basically, help support it.
Anne Truong:Have champions located in medical centers in all 50
Anne Truong:states, and those champions will have monthly meetings. We
Anne Truong:currently are doing this already, and we meet with the
Anne Truong:medical students, and we teach them sexual medicine once a
Anne Truong:month. We've been doing it at Baylor now for three years. Once
Anne Truong:a month, every month, we meet with all the medical students
Anne Truong:who are interested. They come, we have some dinner, and we talk
Anne Truong:about sexual medicine. Ours. These are called rigs, regional
Anne Truong:interest groups. And so we're trying to significantly increase
Anne Truong:medical school education, because I think it starts in
Anne Truong:medical school. It's even because that's when better than
Anne Truong:even going getting ready to teach it in medical school. Make
Anne Truong:it a true curriculum, and we're actually helping the SMS and A
Anne Truong:is helping develop the curriculum for those medical
Anne Truong:schools.
Anne Truong:Oh, that's wonderful. I am really glad to
Anne Truong:hear that. And you're still the chairman?
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: I just finished my presidency. So I just
Anne Truong:finished my presidency of the SMS and A.
Anne Truong:Gotcha. And I'm proud to say that I'm also a
Anne Truong:member as well of this association. I love the blog
Anne Truong:that you guys published, and I love that initiative, and I
Anne Truong:wanted to share that. So I want to touch upon what is your
Anne Truong:approach on the psychogenic ED component, because that is
Anne Truong:really intertwined with physical ED. You have physical ED, you
Anne Truong:don't have psychological ED, and they're kind of almost
Anne Truong:interchangeable, and I find it sometimes that it's more
Anne Truong:challenging to address the psychological component, because
Anne Truong:it just not involves the man, but also their partner as well.
Anne Truong:So what is your approach on that?
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: So I think let's take a step back and look
Anne Truong:at exactly what's happening in this situation. Let's say a man
Anne Truong:has erectile dysfunction just once. Maybe he drank too much
Anne Truong:that night, or he just had erectile dysfunction when he
Anne Truong:engages in sexual activity. The next time, many men are saying,
Anne Truong:I hope I don't get erectile dysfunction again while they're
Anne Truong:having sex, as they say that they're fixated on not getting
Anne Truong:erectile dysfunction, they're going to get erectile
Anne Truong:dysfunction. In other words, they're more consumed then
Anne Truong:they'd have sex again. And now say, Look, I've had it twice.
Anne Truong:Sex now becomes anxiety provoking. They start getting
Anne Truong:nervous when they say, they say, I hope it doesn't happen. So I
Anne Truong:call it the vicious cycle. More sex they have, and the more ED
Anne Truong:they have, the more ED they're going to have. It just kind of
Anne Truong:gets into their head. So what you have to do is ask them
Anne Truong:certain questions. First of all, they say, with masturbation, do
Anne Truong:you have any problems? No, okay, that's psychogenic. If you get
Anne Truong:up in the morning, you wake up, do you have more strong morning
Anne Truong:erections? Yes, then that's psychogenic. It means the
Anne Truong:hardware is working fine. Everything is working fine. It
Anne Truong:just doesn't work well when you're with your partner. That
Anne Truong:is psychogenic ED. So a person who has true ED would not be
Anne Truong:able to get great erections with masturbation or wake up with
Anne Truong:morning erections because the erections don't work. So we
Anne Truong:that's very important. What's my favorite way to break
Anne Truong:psychogenic ED? My favorite way to break psychogenic ED is daily
Anne Truong:Cialis. When I give a man daily Cialis, many of these men will
Anne Truong:start waking up with morning erections, and when they engage
Anne Truong:in sexual activity, many of them don't need to take a pill. They
Anne Truong:just have sex. When they want to have sex, they feel normal
Anne Truong:again. When they feel normal again. And every time they
Anne Truong:notice, hey, past 10 times I had sex, everything was great. I had
Anne Truong:no ED. Then I start taking back the Cialis, little by little.
Anne Truong:You can take it every other day, then you can take it to twice a
Anne Truong:week, and you can stop. Many men don't want to stop the Cialis.
Anne Truong:And I think Cialis is a fantastic medication. It's FDA
Anne Truong:approved for ED, FDA approved for BPH, FDA approved for
Anne Truong:pulmonary hypertension that protects the lining of the blood
Anne Truong:vessels, protects the endothelium. It's a win, win,
Anne Truong:win on all three. So I really recommend those, particularly
Anne Truong:for the men over the age of 50. So I think that psychogenic ED
Anne Truong:can be broken with that kind of showing them everything's fine.
Anne Truong:You make a referral to a sex therapist. Most of them will not
Anne Truong:see the sex therapist, but they does help seeing a sex therapist
Anne Truong:and getting a penile ultrasound and showing them that everything
Anne Truong:is perfect, actually, is very therapeutic to them as well. Oh,
Anne Truong:look, Mr. Smith, your peak systolic was 40. Was fantastic.
Anne Truong:Your end diastolic was only two. You have very healthy blood
Anne Truong:vessels and penis. They feel better. They actually feel
Anne Truong:better knowing that everything is fine.
Anne Truong:I love that, and I actually do that a lot. I've
Anne Truong:learned, you know, ultrasound from the urology here, and it's
Anne Truong:the best thing you can do, because it's objective evidence
Anne Truong:that, hey, everything is working. The plumbing is working
Anne Truong:really, really well. And so what dose?
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: the quality of the relationship? Though, that's
Anne Truong:really important. The quality of the relationship. I don't care
Anne Truong:how much medication I give you, if the quality of the
Anne Truong:relationship is poor, it will have a big impact, and not
Anne Truong:knowing that piece of information will make it more
Anne Truong:difficult to treat that patient.
Anne Truong:Well, let's say the quality is poor. As the doctor,
Anne Truong:what can you do about it?
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: We have three phenomenal sex therapists that
Anne Truong:we use, and actually they're different ages and they have
Anne Truong:different personalities, so I kind of tailor my referral to
Anne Truong:that right person I think will suit the best for that with that
Anne Truong:sex therapist. They're all amazing, but I do think that
Anne Truong:seeking sex therapy would be important. I think also making
Anne Truong:sure that the partner does not suffer from FSD was some of the
Anne Truong:reasons that could impair the quality relationship is if the
Anne Truong:male partner is constantly wanting to engage in sexual
Anne Truong:activity and putting pressure when she does not want to engage
Anne Truong:in sexual activity, that can make it very challenging. So you
Anne Truong:have to take a deeper dive when on her and find out what's going
Anne Truong:on, and vice versa when I'm treating the female patient,
Anne Truong:that it's very important and libido is actually, is
Anne Truong:interesting. Don't forget about what I teach the residents
Anne Truong:called PETT. PETT stands for prolactin, estradiol, thyroid
Anne Truong:and testosterone. Check the PETT on anyone who has low libido,
Anne Truong:because those could be off.
Anne Truong:So PETT? So check that testosterone, thyroid,
Anne Truong:estrogen, that's right.
Anne Truong:Dr. Mohit Khera: All very important when you talk about
Anne Truong:libido and sexual orgasm function as well.
Anne Truong:That's exactly what I check too. So often time we
Anne Truong:see men, they come in and the only thing that's checked is
Anne Truong:total testosterone. That's it. No SHBG, which stands for sex
Anne Truong:hormone binding globulin or estradiol, anything like that.
Anne Truong:It's the whole picture. Testosterone, if you're
Anne Truong:listening to this men, the total testosterone alone isn'y going
Anne Truong:to tell you the whole picture, what's going on in the body.
Anne Truong:I hope you enjoyed the episode. I know it's long, but it's
Anne Truong:packed with great information. Let me know how you think about
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