Want to hear about a serendipitous adventure?
Join us as Manvir chats about her trip to the Bitcoin Miami conference. She recounts snagging a whale pass for a steal, finding a hotel room out of the blue, and the surprising connections she made along the way. Led by her faith, It's a journey packed with unexpected turns and cool discoveries.
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Hey, everybody.
Tali:Today you're listening to part two of my conversation with Manvir...
Tali:Can you talk a little bit about your experience in Miami since you
Tali:were, you felt guided to go there?
Manvir:Yeah.
Manvir:Yeah.
Manvir:It's so funny.
Manvir:I was like, okay, God, I need a hotel room.
Manvir:I'm on a budget.
Manvir:The tickets are really expensive.
Manvir:I think, you know, the person like, I'm like, okay, I think like,
Manvir:so you know how there's like the tickets, it's like general admission.
Manvir:And then there's what is that called?
Manvir:Then there was like, there's an like...
Tali:There's an industry pass.
Tali:And then there's a whale pass.
Manvir:And then there's the whale pass, right?
Manvir:I was like, well, God, you know, I'm like, I'm feeling the whale pass.
Manvir:But it's 11,000 dollars.
Manvir:And I'm like, you know, I trust You.
Manvir:And, I think You need to make this happen really easily.
Manvir:Right.
Manvir:And so I'm sitting there and I've never gone to the Bitcoin, Miami conference.
Manvir:I don't know anybody who's attending.
Manvir:Right.
Manvir:And, uh, so I got online one day, and I was like, okay, God, if You're guiding
Manvir:me, like, you know, what should I do?
Manvir:And I got on Craigslist from Miami.
Manvir:I'm like, maybe somebody is selling their passes really cheap.
Manvir:And there was somebody who was selling a whale ticket, for such
Manvir:a low, low, low amount that I was like, this has to be a scam.
Manvir:There's no way, but I was, but I'm like, okay, but I will reach out.
Manvir:I got connected to this guy and I don't, for whatever, like he left
Manvir:me, like, he was like, okay, I can transfer the ticket to this thing.
Manvir:And then you just put the money in there.
Manvir:Right.
Manvir:And I was like, okay, I don't even know how this, technology works
Manvir:of where you transfer a ticket.
Manvir:And is this ticket thing a scam and like, right?
Manvir:And so I was like, here's my number.
Manvir:Just call me.
Manvir:Can we talk for a second?
Manvir:And the guy left, you know, he left me a message and he was like, listen,
Manvir:I've got so many offers who have people who want to, you know, buy my ticket
Manvir:for way more than I had listed it for.
Manvir:And I'm, and he said that, you know, he's in a wheelchair.
Manvir:So like, you know, he's not looking to get scammed.
Manvir:And I was like, okay, let me call him.
Manvir:Right.
Manvir:I was like, the dude is saying he's in a wheelchair.
Manvir:He wants to sell this ticket.
Manvir:It's like way below any price you could ever imagine.
Manvir:And so I call him up and I was on the phone for like an hour.
Manvir:I'm like, hey, listen, I got this vision.
Manvir:I think I'm supposed to go to Miami.
Manvir:I think I need a whale pass and all the things.
Manvir:He was like, okay, I will sell it to you.
Manvir:And I was like, yeah...
Manvir:And he had been to Miami several times and to the Bitcoin conference,
Manvir:and I was like, I don't even know about getting a hotel room.
Manvir:And he was like, you know, basically had, like, he had, like, millions of, like,
Manvir:you know, mileage points or whatever.
Manvir:He's like, okay, I'll get you the hotel room.
Manvir:You know, you can just pay me cash.
Manvir:And the hotel room was like a fraction of the price and, like, really close.
Manvir:And but like, he was like, just pay me everything when you see me.
Manvir:And so I'm like, okay, God, I'm just flying blindly to Miami.
Manvir:To meet somebody I don't know, who might be, who's in a
Manvir:wheelchair, who's, who's like...
Manvir:okay, hopefully I have a hotel room when I get there and a ticket,
Manvir:but like, I'm just going to follow and, um, yeah, and it worked out.
Manvir:So I got to, uh, Miami, to the conference, and so blessed to be able to go to the
Manvir:Thank God for Bitcoin conference because.
Manvir:You know, Bitcoin really is a technology that is revolutionizing...
Manvir:well, it is changing everything that we thought about money and what's possible.
Manvir:And it's bringing integrity to the financial system and transparency.
Manvir:It was such a blessing to go to the Thank God for Bitcoin conference.
Manvir:Uh, people that have faith, and who, who really want to see, want to see a
Manvir:financial system that has transparency, that has trust, that is just good
Manvir:for humanity and for our planet.
Manvir:You know, obviously I had an opportunity to meet you there, Tali.
Manvir:And I got to, got to meet some other extraordinary people there.
Manvir:And so while I was there, you know, there was this gentleman who was
Manvir:like this big VC and so forth.
Manvir:Right.
Manvir:And he also happened to be in a wheelchair.
Manvir:Right.
Manvir:And okay, what are the chances of meeting, like, another person in a wheelchair?
Manvir:I was like, you know, and so I was like, maybe he's the
Manvir:person I'm supposed to talk to.
Manvir:So I had a meeting set up with him, like, basically the last day
Manvir:of the actual Bitcoin conference.
Manvir:And I was like, this is in the bag.
Manvir:Like, you know, of course, like, boom, boom, this person, that person.
Manvir:Yeah.
Manvir:Okay, God.
Manvir:Like, doing the thing.
Manvir:Going to talk to this guy, meet with him, and it'll like, all just like come
Manvir:together in a pretty bow and I'm good.
Manvir:So I sit down on that Saturday.
Manvir:It's the last day of the event.
Manvir:And I, and I meet with him, and I'd, like, kind of try and put my idea together.
Manvir:And he's just like, he looks at me and he's like, yeah, that's really beautiful.
Manvir:And like, yeah, I don't know how to help you.
Manvir:I'm not, I'm not your person.
Manvir:I was just like devastated.
Manvir:I'm like, what, how can this be?
Manvir:Right?
Manvir:I'm like, okay, I'm not going to go into a bathroom and cry at
Manvir:this moment, but I'm just gonna...
Manvir:but I might go into a bathroom and cry at the Bitcoin conference, like...
Manvir:Okay, I came all the way out here, you know, I'm trusting, like, okay, fine.
Manvir:Pulled myself together, walked over to another table, and there was this
Manvir:guy, there was these two guys that I'd met before, but one in particular
Manvir:that I'd met a couple days prior.
Manvir:And I walked up to him and I was just like, dude, I had a, I had
Manvir:a meeting, it totally sucked.
Manvir:And he was like, oh, what was it about?
Manvir:And meanwhile, he's like this American guy, but from El Salvador, originally,
Manvir:I think his family was from El Salvador.
Manvir:And so I was like, okay, you won't believe this.
Manvir:I had this vision.
Manvir:I think I'm supposed to go to Bitcoin conference.
Manvir:Like, all these things came together.
Manvir:I go, I'm having these visions about these prisoners and I go, basically nobody...
Manvir:I go, from what I've discovered so far, also, is that nobody's
Manvir:even allowed in the prisons.
Manvir:Right.
Manvir:And I thought I could even connect to Max and Stacy.
Manvir:Like, there'd be like, you know, of course, we'll, like, hook
Manvir:you up with everybody you'd need to, like, talk to, right?
Manvir:And, you know, I go, that didn't happen.
Manvir:And so here's this random guy that I'm just, like, talking to
Manvir:and basically complaining to.
Manvir:And he's like, here's my contact number.
Manvir:He's like, you know, I'm from El Salvador.
Manvir:And he's like, he goes, my dad was telling me that, you know, "your
Manvir:uncle is the head of the Ministry of Defense for the country."
Manvir:And he's like, he's like, okay, so I think we could probably get a meeting with
Manvir:all the right people, if you wanted to.
Manvir:And he was like, and him personally, he was like, and you
Manvir:know, I'm into prison reform.
Manvir:And so yeah, so that's my, like, God and Bitcoin adventure.
Tali:What an incredible story.
Tali:Oh my goodness.
Tali:The dots that were connected and...
Tali:to make the path lit, but not exactly every step that you expect.
Tali:So you kind of experienced a little bit of, wait a second...
Tali:you know, sometimes you question in order to get a stronger
Tali:conviction down the road, I think.
Tali:So I'm glad you didn't go into the bathroom and cry, but I totally
Tali:understand moments like that.
Tali:So what's happened since then?
Tali:I mean, that was a couple months ago.
Tali:So, any developments?
Manvir:So okay, so that was, yeah, like a month and a half ago.
Manvir:So I contacted the guy that actually introduced the two of us together.
Manvir:Right, Mark, and he...
Manvir:yeah, so I spoke to Mark, and he was like, okay, well, figure out what you need.
Manvir:And let's talk.
Manvir:And I mean, come on, like, I'm like, okay, I don't even know
Manvir:what I need at this moment.
Manvir:Like, do I put together a business plan, a pitch deck, right?
Manvir:Right?
Manvir:I've never done any ministry work.
Manvir:How does, you know, where do we go from here?
Manvir:And that's when you said, okay, well, let's, let's just have a conversation.
Manvir:And so I thought, okay, well, we'll, we'll go from there.
Tali:Yeah, you never know who's listening, and what kind of connections
Tali:they have, just like your conversation...
Tali:last day with the last person.
Tali:I think the path will be lit for you as you continue to put
Tali:one foot in front of the other.
Tali:That's the way it usually works, anyway.
Manvir:Yeah.
Manvir:And, but, but actually, so like, let me get back to also the Bitcoin story, right?
Manvir:And so Bitcoin is...
Manvir:for whoever's listening, do research, learn about this.
Manvir:It's important and, you know, you wanna, you wanna have
Manvir:freedom and self sovereignty.
Manvir:And, you know, as you work, you want to be able to save your money.
Manvir:And I think that this is a tool that can be used.
Tali:Thank you for joining us today.
Tali:We will continue this conversation tomorrow.
Tali:Be sure to come back and hear the rest.