00:00 Introduction and Welcome

00:18 Upcoming Sermon on Politics

01:39 Fall Fest Preparations

03:33 Discussion on John 7 and 8

10:43 Textual Criticism and Manuscript Traditions

16:45 Conclusion and Prayer

17:47 Closing Remarks

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to another edition

of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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We are your hosts, pastor

PJ and Pastor Rod Gomez up.

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And, uh, we're here to read

the Bible together and talk to

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everything going on in the world.

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Everything going on in the world.

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Exhaustively.

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Exhaustively.

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Yes.

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Hey, we're talking about politics

this weekend and Oh, that'll be fun.

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That non-controversial, that

is fun and non-controversial,

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but, actually, it's fun.

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Not non-controversial.

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Right.

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But it will be fun.

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It will be.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And we listen, at the end of the

day, we've got one sermon to

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preach on a topic that is massive.

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So, come hungry, but become understanding

that you're gonna still have some hunger

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pains probably after you leave on Sunday.

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It's gonna be a very long sermon.

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It's gonna be a three hour sermon.

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Yeah.

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It's so fascinating though, with

an intermission, I think and

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we just talked about this, but.

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We're gonna have, we have a

different perspective on this than

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we did six years ago at this point.

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Because we've seen a lot of things

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were eye-opening for a lot of us.

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Cause us to raise an eyebrow at least.

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Exactly.

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So, we'll have to walk through what this

looks like as Peter's calling us to sub

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submit ourselves to governing authorities.

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Oh.

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And if you're looking for, Hey, my

pastor told me I didn't have to pay

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my taxes, so you don't, if you wanna

throw me in jail, go after him.

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Instead, you're not gonna hear me say,

uh that you don't have to pay your taxes.

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But that said.

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We have to understand, okay, how do we

live as Christians under an ungodly,

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form of government, which is every form

of government, no matter where you're at.

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Should be an interesting, interesting

time on Sunday to say the least.

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Don't miss it.

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Don't miss it.

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Yeah.

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As it is, it's Thursday and

so our week is winding down.

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Your week is winding down.

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Ours is just getting started.

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That's true.

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Actually, your week is winding down.

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Ours, it's just getting started.

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We're not winding down at all.

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Ours ramps up all the way through Sunday.

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In fact, especially on Sunday because

we've got a longer day on Sunday.

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'cause it is fall fest.

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Yeah.

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So it's hopefully you're planning

on being there with your family.

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Four to seven.

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Can we dress up?

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You can dress up.

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Is there any guidelines for what

you should or shouldn't wear?

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Yes.

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We don't want it to celebrate evil or

be overly gory or anything like that.

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We're trying not to have like the

screen masks and things like that.

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That would be So no chainsaws, right?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Leave those at home.

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But yeah, costumes are fine.

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If you want your kids to wear their

Halloween costumes, that's fine.

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When you say scary, how scary?

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Like, if I'd come dressed up as.

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As heresy.

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Is that scary?

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Yes.

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Or COVID?

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19.

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If I come dressed up as COVID-19.

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After this morning or

after that morning sermon.

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Oh man.

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Yeah, that'd be funny.

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Are you dressing up?

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I'm not.

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People wanna know what you're wearing.

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I'm dressing as a pastor,

so that's kind of expected.

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You know, I'm not a big costume guy.

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No, never.

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Well, even for the church though,

what about the, what about the kids?

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Think about the kids.

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I am thinking about the kids.

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I'm actually, they would love to,

I'm thinking about visitors that I.

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Hopefully gonna have come back

to church the next Sunday.

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And I don't want them to have

me pictured as a giant banana or

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something like that, lying around.

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This guy's such a banana.

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He's so humble and he's lowly,

he's just one of the people.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't know, man.

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Maybe you should dress as a shepherd.

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I like a first century shepherd.

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Do that too.

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Yeah.

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Get the shepherd staff.

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Yeah.

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And the long robes.

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And then you could show us what

it looks like to git up your

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loins when we do the race.

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I don't, I don't think anybody

that you and Pastor Mark can

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race girding up your loins.

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Anyways.

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Fault.

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Best, the church would be honored to

see you gird up like your loins brail.

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Come on.

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I don't, this is, you've said the

word loins far too many times.

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We're getting an E on this podcast up.

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Gird up your loins is what I said.

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I it is not without context here.

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Well, yeah, that's

probably not gonna happen.

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But yeah, we want you to join us.

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It should be a great time on Sunday.

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See you there.

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Let's talk about the Bible,

John seven and eight.

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John seven is interesting because

this is really, the tip of the

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spear, at least , in John's gospel

for Jesus really starting to go head

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to head with the religious leaders.

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We're gonna get in John eight, by the

way, a section of the Bible that probably.

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Wasn't there in the original

manuscripts, which I preached on when

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we preached through the Gospel of John.

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So if you're looking for that more in

depth, you can go back to that message.

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But as John seven opens, we got a

problem because there's a feast and

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the Feast of Booze and the Feast of

Booze was one of three of the major

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feasts that required the presence

of all Jewish males in Jerusalem.

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So Jesus' brother say, Hey

let's go up to Jerusalem.

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And Jesus says.

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I'm not going up to this feast.

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But then shortly after that says in

verse 10, after his brothers had gone

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up to the feast, then he also went up.

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We've got a problem.

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Did Jesus lie?

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Have we finally caught Jesus in a sin?

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He said, I'm not going.

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But then he went.

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Answer, no.

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Jesus is not lying.

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Right.

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How do we know that?

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Because of what is added by John.

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Whew.

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You're relieved, pastor.

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I'm relieved.

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He was about to, I was afraid I was about

to quit my job and move to Kentucky.

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Says.

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Then he also went up

and here's the modifier.

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Not publicly, but in private and that's

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what helps us understand what's going on.

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When Jesus brothers were saying, let's

go to the feast Jesus brothers were

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inviting him to step into the public

spotlight and to declare his identity

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and to make himself known as the Messiah

they're wanting to follow and ride on

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his coattails and gain the glory that

they would be able to get from this

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brother of theirs that was attracting so

many people up in the region of Galilee.

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They're saying, let's take this to

the place that it really needs to

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be taken to, which is Jerusalem.

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That's why Jesus said to

them, I'm not going up.

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I'm not going up.

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In other words, in the way that

you want me to go up to this feast.

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And that's why John says in verse

10, after they left, he went up

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and then he as the qualifier,

not publicly, but in private.

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And why?

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Because John's theme of the hour,

his hour was not yet at hand.

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And Jesus knew for him to go up the way

they wanted him to, which is Allah, the

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triumphal entry, which John will show

us Jesus is going to do eventually.

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This wasn't the time for that.

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And so Jesus tells his

brothers, now is not the time.

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But he goes up privately

because he was keeping the law.

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The law required his presence there.

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He wasn't gonna disobey the law.

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He just wasn't gonna go up

the way they wanted him to.

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Can we just acknowledge one of

the elephants in the room here?

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Verse eight says, you go up to the feast.

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I am not going up to the feast.

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If you just take it for

what it says, face value.

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Jesus says, you go up.

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I'm not going up.

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And I think for some critics of the

Bible, they're gonna look at that and say,

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see, you're just talking around it here.

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You're just saying things.

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You're asserting things that aren't there.

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He clearly says something that's not true.

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He intended to go up the whole time.

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Alright here's the deal.

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When you're reading a text, you can say

black and white, hear what the letter.

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But you have to read the

Bible, what they tend or touch.

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You have to read it with a skillful hand.

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And that means doing more than just

looking at what the words say on the page.

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You have to say, what do they mean?

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What's being communicated here?

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And all you have to do is read the

few verses after what he says to

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get a sense of what he's after.

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We're not.

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Apologizing for Jesus and making

something up that wasn't there.

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All we're doing is looking at it

at face value and saying, what's

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happening in the text and what

is Jesus trying to communicate?

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If John knew that Jesus was contradicting

himself or that he was lying, do you

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think John would've put it in there?

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Would John be like, you know

what, this is the son of God.

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This is the Lamb of God, but

he's a liar in this funny.

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Let's keep it in there.

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See what happens.

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Right?

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He's not an idiot, right?

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Like he's not a dummy.

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He knows what he's doing.

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So as you encounter critics of

the Bible who say, well, well the

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says are in the black and white.

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He said that you know what I.

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On the one hand I wanna show some

empathy and some care say, okay

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I get why you see that, but let's

just look at the whole thing.

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Let's look at what the text says and try

to get a sense of what's happening here.

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Do we really think Jesus

in one moment is lying?

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And then the next moment saying, well,

I'm gonna do this other thing over here.

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It just doesn't make sense given what

we know about Jesus and even how John

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has written about him to this point.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's helpful.

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From here, when he goes up to the

feast, he goes to the temple mountain.

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He begins to teach there.

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And you might again think to

yourself, well, that seems like a

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pretty public move for him to make.

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It seems like he's.

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Creating a stir by doing that.

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And yet it's important to remember

for us that this was not an

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uncommon thing for a rabbi to do.

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A rabbi would go to the Temple Mount and

take his followers and he would teach

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them there on the temple mount in the

precincts of the temple courts there.

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And so Jesus is simply

doing what a rabbi would do.

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This would've not been.

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Him grabbing the microphone center stage

and standing up and saying, and now our

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keynote speaker for the day is Jesus.

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And so the people though as

would happen, were aware.

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It didn't take long for them to

figure out that Jesus is there.

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And so he draws the ire of the leaders

and they begin to oppose his authority.

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So Jesus is going to reestablish

his authority and they're

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still coming after him.

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It appears, according to verse 21, for

healing the man by the pool of Bethesda.

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Back in John chapter five, he said,

I did one work and you marvel at it.

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That is, you're still coming after

me for healing the man on the

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Sabbath there, and yet he's going

to come at them and tell them.

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Look, Moses was dealing

with a part of a man's body.

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We'll leave that vague there, and you're

mad at me because I made a whole man's

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body well on the Sabbath and then he calls

them to a right assessment of who he is.

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And so Jesus is going to, in

John chapter seven, really

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take on the religious leaders.

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He's not gonna.

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To pass through their MITs.

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He's not going to fade

into the background.

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He's going to answer them and he's

going to go toe to toe with them,

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and he's going to deal with what's

going on and also what's coming.

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If you jump down to verse 37,

though, he says, on the last day

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of the feast, the great day, Jesus

stood up and cried out if anyone.

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Thirst, let him come to me and drink.

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During this last day, there

would've been these water offerings

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that were being poured out.

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And so Jesus is using

things going on nearby.

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Again, another object lesson from

Jesus here to make a statement

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here, and he says, out of his heart

will flow rivers of living water.

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This is a callback to

language of the new covenant.

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Ezekiel 47.

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This is also a callback to some

of what he said to the woman at

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the well in John chapter four.

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So Jesus is there, he's in the public,

he's going head to head, which is going to

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cause people to choose sides, and that's

what happens in the rest of chapter seven.

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Is people begin to say, okay, we

have to decide what to do with Jesus.

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Do we wanna follow him?

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Do we not wanna follow him?

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And he's gonna be divisive.

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And that's the thing.

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Jesus is polarizing.

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He was then, he is still today.

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And people have to choose what side of

things they're going to fall on there.

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John Chapter eight opens with the portion

that I referenced earlier that probably

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wasn't there in the original manuscripts.

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The best manuscripts that we have, the

earliest manuscripts don't include this.

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Interaction between Jesus and

the woman, cotton, adultery.

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And that creates some questions

that creates the questions

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of, okay, so why is it there?

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And it's there most likely because it

was added at some point by a scribe.

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And then out of.

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Just general uncertainty scribes from

that time forward, nobody wanted to be

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described to take it out after that.

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So you think about, for example,

social security today as

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broken as that system is.

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No president, no matter Republican or

Democrat, wants to be the one that's

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gonna be tagged with, well, you're

the one that killed Social Security.

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And so here, nobody's gonna

take this out because they don't

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wanna make that judgment call.

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But they will usually bracket

it like it is in the ESV.

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There'll be notes there.

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We can't say with certainty

this never happened.

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It's possible this did happen and

that this is tradition that then

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was passed down and passed down and

that's how it wound his way into here.

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It's possible that it happened

around this same time.

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We just can't say with

certainty thus says the Lord.

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So when I preached through John chapter

eight, I didn't preach this as I preached

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the other passages because I couldn't

stand up and say with absolute certainty,

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thus says the Lord on this passage.

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If you're looking to learn more about how

stuff like this works, you're gonna wanna

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look for books about textual criticism.

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This is the study of how the manuscripts

were compiled and whether and how to

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tell the manuscripts are forgeries of the

originals rather not forgeries, that's

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not the right word, whether they're.

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Significantly different from the

originals and how you can discern that

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and actually this, the art and science

of textual criticism is really good.

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It's not just a manmade science

that is speculating as to

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which is best and which isn't.

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But there's a lot that goes

into thinking about that.

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So textual criticism

is what that's called.

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You can look that up.

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You can type in textual criticism

in your Amazon searcher and

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find a couple good books.

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That's a really helpful study

to understand how the text

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that we have reflect the

originals as closely as they do.

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And actually speaking of that we

referenced, we talked about the King

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James Bible a few days ago, and we

will link in the show notes here.

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A thread, which is something that you find

on Twitter, where there's one post after

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one post after one post, and it was put

together by, again, guy named Wes Huff.

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And it's all about the.

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Manuscript traditions

for the King James Bible.

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So, we'll throw that in

the show notes on here.

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Be sure to click on that.

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You can follow that over and read it.

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Super helpful.

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He's also got some great graphics

that he throws in there too.

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It's really readable and is just a

good treatment of the question of the

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King James Bible, which we answered

a few days ago on the podcast.

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After we get through this, then if we

look at verse 12, another reason why

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we think that this was at least put

in here maybe out of place, is because

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verse 12 does seem to really flow well

from where Jesus has just been still

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continuing during this feast of booze.

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And it says, again, Jesus

spoke to them saying, and so

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who are we speaking to here?

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I think it's the same audience

as we had back in chapter seven.

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And so he gives.

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Another I am statement.

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We haven't really talked about

that, but John has multiple I am

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statements that he records of Jesus.

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This is another one.

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He says, I am the light of

the world feast of the booze.

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That final day they would've had

lights that would've been lit up to

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illuminate the whole temple mount there.

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And so again, in the context of the feast

of the booze that last day there it seems

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natural for Jesus to make this statement

to say, I am the light of the world.

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Whoever follows me will not walk in

darkness, but will have the light of life.

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He's challenged from here on his

testimony and he says, I'm the one

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who bears witness about myself.

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And the father who sent me

also bears a witness about me.

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So there was Jewish law that said the

testimony of one person should not

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be accepted, but there needs to be

the testimony of multiple witnesses.

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And Jesus says, well, you have

my testimony, but you also have.

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The testimony of the father.

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Now, that's going to cause the Jews

to be pretty upset because again,

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he's claiming that authority of the

father, and so they want to arrest him.

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He's able to evade that because why?

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Because verse 20, it's still not his hour.

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He then talks about his future,

impending departure, the ascension.

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The Jews are confused by this.

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Where are you going?

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Where is he going to go?

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How come we can't follow him?

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And Jesus is gonna say,

look, you need to believe.

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This is the key.

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If you want to be with

me, you need to believe.

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And so he was.

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Calling for this.

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He's going to say that they're

going to eventually understand as

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he continues in this diatribe this

conversation, this monologue here.

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He's gonna say, you'll

eventually understand this.

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When you lift up the son of

man, you'll understand what

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I meant by all these things.

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And it says in verse 30, as

he was saying these things,

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many of them believed in him.

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And then Jesus says to those that

believed, if your faith is real,

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you're gonna abide in my word.

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In other words, you're gonna obey me,

you're gonna follow after me, and there

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will be signs of obedience therein.

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After this, we get into some more

conflict between Jesus and the enemies,

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Jesus and the religious leaders.

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Because he says anyone who

practices sin is a slave to sin.

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And the Jews are gonna say, we've

never been slaves of anyone.

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Now.

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That's not true.

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They had been slaves of plenty of people,

but they're referring to their standing

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with God and they're saying we've

never been slaves to anyone but God.

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And Jesus said, no, rather,

God is not your father.

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You have another father and

your father is the devil.

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And they say, Abraham's our father

and Jesus is going to go after them.

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And so really, I know there's a lot of

stuff going on here and it's easy to get

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lost in the weeds, but this is Jesus.

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Taking the religious leader's head on.

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And as he's doing this, there

are people overhearing Eve's

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dropping on his conversation with

the Jews, hearing him say things.

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And verse 47, whoever is of

God hears the words of God.

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And so there are people listening to

Jesus and this is some of the teaching

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that's drawing people to himself.

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And yet at the same time, he's

defending himself and he's defending

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himself perfectly with the Jews.

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And the Jews are gonna

accuse him of having a demon.

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And then the Jews are gonna accuse

him of not knowing Abraham.

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And he's gonna say, look,

before Abraham was, I am.

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And again, they're gonna get angry

because this is a claim to deity.

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They're gonna pick up stones, they're

gonna wanna stone him to death.

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They're gonna end his life here.

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And so John, chapter seven, John chapter

eight, all of this I think, has taken

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place in the feast of the booth, on

the temple mount, on that final day

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where Jesus, in the Jews the tension

is rising so that we understand why

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eventually they want to take him,

arrest him, and put him to death.

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Let me just underline what you said.

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PPJ, this is another time where Jesus

is making a claim to deity, and this

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happens seven times in the gospel of John.

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You can count one of them more

than once, but Jesus uses an I am

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to signify something significant

about who he is here in John 8 58.

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This is probably the most clear

expression of him saying, I am God.

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He doesn't say that.

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He doesn't say, I am God with a capital G.

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And then od.

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What he does say though is as significant

as if he were saying that he's

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appealing again to Exodus chapter three.

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He's saying before Abraham was,

I am, this is the divine name.

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This is how God revealed himself to Moses.

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And this is what Moses then utilized

to communicate to the people of Israel

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about Yahweh's covenant love for them.

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So this is it.

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These are the things that we look

at when we compile the picture

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and say, Jesus is more than a man.

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He's actually the son of God and he's.

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God in the flesh, he's more than a man.

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He's God in the flesh.

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That's why these passages

are so significant.

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Look for the ims.

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The ims in John in particular,

again, there's seven major

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ims and this is one of them.

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They're really important.

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They tell us about who

Jesus is as more than a man.

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Yeah.

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That's a lot.

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And I, I apologize sometimes

I feel like I'm just droning

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through these podcast episodes.

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We accept your apology.

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Thank you.

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Thanks, man.

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You forgave.

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That's great.

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That's putting practice,

yesterday's message in practice

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right now on yesterday's podcast.

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But hey, let's pray and then we'll

be done with this this episode.

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God, there's a lot here.

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And yet we are so grateful for

having John's record of it and the

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record of the son of God, the record

of your son of Jesus here on earth.

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Undefeated, not backing down, not bowing

out, not shying away from conflict,

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but really stepping into it as it was

fitting to defend who he truly is.

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And we see here in John eight,

in John seven that he truly

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is God in the flesh and he.

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Has come to do the work that

you father had sent him to do.

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So we pray that we would appreciate that

as we read these things, that we'd even

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see the rumblings that began here that

were going to ultimately lead Jesus to

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the cross, not under compulsion, not

unwillingly, not as a, an act of cosmic

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childhood abuse but willingly, and this

is even part of his submission to you

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throughout this whole thing, his willing

obedience to continue in your will.

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And so we're thankful for these

chapters that show us so much

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of what ultimately led to.

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The cross and his death in our

place, his resurrection for our life.

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And we thank you so much for that.

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In Jesus name, amen.

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Amen.

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Keep reading new Bibles.

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Tune again tomorrow for another

edition of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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See you folks.

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Bye.

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Bernard: Well, thank you for

listening to another episode of

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the Daily Bible Podcast, folks!

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We're honored to have you join us.

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This is a ministry of Compass

Bible Church in north Texas.

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You can find out more information

about our Church at compassntx.org.

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Ya'll come back now, ya hear?

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PJ: Yeah.

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I would agree with

everything that you said