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Investing Outside the Stock Market - Real Estate & Energy Diversify Your Portfolio
17th August 2026 • Unlock Your Passive Lifestyle • Tommy Thompson
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Licensed Financial Representative Katie Rienas joins Tommy Thompson and Justin Kiehne to share how growing up in a commercial real estate family shaped her approach to investing, relationships, and wealth building. Drawing from firsthand experience managing a luxury motorcoach resort and working with high-net-worth investors, Katie explains why many successful property owners eventually seek passive investment strategies.

The conversation explores 1031 exchanges, Delaware Statutory Trusts (DSTs), alternative investments, oil and gas tax strategies, Roth conversions, and the importance of building long-term relationships in commercial real estate. Whether you're an active real estate owner or simply looking to diversify your portfolio, this episode offers practical insights into creating passive income while preserving long-term wealth.

Key Takeaways

  • Relationships are the foundation of long-term success in commercial real estate and wealth management.
  • Growing up around commercial finance created an early understanding of investing, trust, and entrepreneurship.
  • Sports develop leadership, discipline, teamwork, and delayed gratification, all of which translate directly into business success.
  • Managing investment property is far more demanding than most people realize, making passive investing attractive for many owners.
  • 1031 exchanges allow investors to defer capital gains taxes while transitioning into professionally managed passive real estate.
  • Alternative investments provide diversification outside the stock market while maintaining real estate exposure.
  • Passive investments can reduce the stress of property management while continuing to generate income.
  • Oil and gas investments may provide significant tax deductions for qualified high-income earners.
  • Roth conversion strategies can help reduce future tax burdens and improve estate planning outcomes.
  • Understanding an investor's goals, income needs, tax situation, and liquidity is essential before recommending any investment strategy.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Katie Rienas and alternative investing

01:15 Growing up in a commercial real estate family

04:00 Entrepreneurship, flexibility, and choosing the industry

06:05 How sports shaped leadership and work ethic

09:45 Behind the scenes of managing a luxury RV resort

12:00 COVID's impact on the motorcoach industry

15:45 Transitioning from active property ownership to passive investing

17:15 Helping investors unlock wealth with 1031 exchanges

24:20 Understanding alternative investments and accredited investors

29:15 Matching investment strategies to investor goals

32:20 Expanding into the Louisiana real estate market

40:00 Oil & gas investing and tax planning strategies

44:30 Roth conversions and reducing retirement taxes

47:00 Why proactive tax planning matters

52:45 Family, purpose, and building a lasting legacy

About the Guest

Katie Rienas

Licensed Financial Representative

Katie Rainey specializes in alternative investments, 1031 exchange strategies, Delaware Statutory Trusts (DSTs), and wealth preservation planning for accredited investors. Raised in a commercial real estate family, she combines firsthand experience managing a luxury motorcoach resort with years of helping clients diversify their portfolios through passive real estate, oil and gas investments, and tax-efficient strategies.

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alternative investments • passive investing • 1031 exchange • Delaware Statutory Trust • DST • commercial real estate • wealth management • passive income • accredited investors • oil and gas investing

Secondary & Long-Tail

commercial real estate investing • luxury RV resort • passive real estate investing • real estate tax strategies • Roth conversions • oil and gas tax deductions • diversified investment portfolio • estate planning • high-net-worth investing • tax-efficient investing • real estate wealth building • Delaware Statutory Trust investing

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alternative investments, passive income, commercial real estate, 1031 exchange, DST investing, accredited investors, wealth management, oil and gas investing, tax planning, estate planning, real estate investing, financial planning

Disclaimer

This episode is intended for educational purposes only and should not be considered financial, tax, legal, or investment advice. Always consult with your CPA, financial advisor, or qualified investment professional before making investment decisions.

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