Are you missing cheese? Or milk in your tea?
Dairy can be problematic for many people with IBS, BUT you may not need to be completely dairy free to manage your digestive symptoms. Here's all you need to know about dairy and irritable bowel syndrome.
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Would you like to start eating
ice cream on holiday again?
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:Maybe you're really missing a nice cheese
board at Christmas or that stringy long
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:cheese as you pull apart a piece of pizza.
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:I'm talking about dairy, lactose
and whether you need to remove it
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:from your diet if you've got IBS.
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:It could be that you're
just sensitive to lactose.
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:Toes, and we'll talk about how
much you might manage and how
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:to eat an appropriate amount.
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:If you have I b s.
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:or maybe you are vegan or you are allergic
to dairy, and I'll explain how to eat
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:a well-rounded healthy dairy-free diet.
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:In this episode of the Inside
Knowledge Podcast, you'll find out
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:all you need to know about dairy
and irritable bowel syndrome.
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:Let's get going.
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:Hello!
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:Welcome to episode 19 of The Inside
Knowledge with me, Anna Mapson.
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:I work with people who have IBS and so
all the time I'm talking about diets
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:that are good for the gut, what you
can do to avoid problems like bloating,
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:constipation, diarrhea, excessive gas.
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:These are the things that my
clients suffer with all the time.
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:Dairy is a really common thing that
people will exclude, just like gluten
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:which I covered in episode 16 about
should you go gluten free if you have
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:IBS, today is should you go dairy free.
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:When I'm talking about dairy,
I mean anything like cow's milk
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:really, including cream, butter,
yoghurt, cheese and other foods.
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:I'm just talking mostly about
cow's milk when I talk about these
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:products, but obviously it does
include other animal milk products.
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:Milk is mostly water, it's like 87 percent
water normally, and the solids that are
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:in it are made up of lactose, that's
the sugar, some fats, and then also
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:some minerals, and then there will also
be Protein, which is whey or casein.
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:Lactose is the sugar in dairy
which most people react to.
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:It requires us to have an enzyme
called lactase to break it down.
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:And people have a tolerance limit
to lactose, depending on their
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:ability to make this enzyme, lactase.
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:So dairy intolerance might not mean you
need to be dairy free, but it could also
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:mean that large portions of cheese and
milk all in the same meal might be more
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:of a trigger than if you occasionally have
little bits of dairy containing foods.
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:Our ability to process this sugar
is dependent on our ability to
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:create this enzyme, lactose.
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:Genetically, some people...
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:have a harder time creating
this enzyme than others.
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:People from Southeast Asia generally have
got high rates of lactose intolerance
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:because they don't genetically have this
enzyme as freely as people from Northern
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:Africa and Europe where people have grown
up farming cows and having dairy as part
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:of their diet for many thousands of years.
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:It's also might be interesting to note
that lactose intolerance is common and
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:kind of temporary after a bout of food
poisoning or having a stomach virus.
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:So you might find that you, after
recovering from a stomach bug,
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:struggle to process dairy, but that
doesn't mean that it will last.
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:It's often, you know, children and babies
particularly can really struggle with
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:dairy containing foods after a stomach
bug for a couple of days, maybe a week,
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:and then you should go back to normal.
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:Lactose is a di saccharide.
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:So if you remember the FODMAP episodes,
the previous two that I've just done on
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:low FODMAP diet, that means it's a sugar.
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:Um, it's made up of glucose and
lactose, and if you don't have
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:enough lactose to break it down,
then your digestion will just be
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:overwhelmed with this excess lactose.
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:There are also proteins in
dairy which can trigger.
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:issues, particularly allergic
reactions, and this is mostly casein.
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:Dairy allergy is quite rare, though,
and it's most often identified when
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:you're in childhood, but It might be
more difficult to diagnose a dairy
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:allergy if you have a milder reaction,
especially one that is delayed.
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:When we talk about allergic reactions,
people who have this can either get an
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:instant reaction, like if you think people
who get anaphylactic reaction to peanuts,
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:for example, or it can be delayed with
dairy, so sometimes people can get a
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:massive flare up of their eczema and other
atopic conditions like asthma attacks,
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:that kind of thing, that can be anywhere
from three hours to three days later
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:after having a large amount of dairy.
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:So, going back to lactose,
let's have a think about what
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:dairy does for people with IBS.
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:There are a number of ways that lactose
or high dairy meals can affect you.
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:One of them is, like I said, if you
don't have lots of lactase, then
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:you've got excessive lactose in the gut
and it can pull water into the small
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:intestine, causing loose stools and
gas, and that can trigger diarrhea.
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:Or the undigested lactose molecules can
pass through to your large intestine,
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:which can ferment and cause gas
and then also can trigger diarrhea.
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:So that's the way it can affect our
digestion, but also, if you think about
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:high fat meals, we know that they can
slow down your digestion, causing slower
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:transit of gas coming through the gut,
and that can really increase your pain
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:and just, you know, having a flare up
of excessive gas can also really trigger
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:your gut brain connection, really making
you worry so sometimes it's high fat and
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:that's if you're eating a lot of cheese.
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:So if it's lactose that is your trigger,
there are some things you can do to
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:try and include dairy in your diet that
avoid you getting those kind of symptoms.
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:People who have a lactase deficiency
can normally tolerate around 12
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:grams of lactose per meal without
getting any symptoms or the
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:symptoms will be relatively mild.
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:So you might be surprised to know how much
lactose is actually in common foods such
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:as cheese and ice cream, yogurt and milk.
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:Around 40 grams of a hard
cheese like cheddar or parmesan.
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:That's only one gram of lactose for 40
grams So you can actually have quite a
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:lot if lactose is your issue Then you
probably could have quite a lot of cheese
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:But as I mentioned you may be tripped up
by the high fat content in cheese and that
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:can also trigger either slow digestion
gas or diarrhea, so It might be the fat
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:content of cheese rather than the lactose.
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:Butter, which some people also try
to avoid, has traces of lactose.
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:Obviously, if you're allergic to
dairy, you wouldn't ever include
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:these kind of foods, but if you
have a lactose intolerance, you're
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:probably going to be okay with butter.
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:There's very little lactose in butter.
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:The next food that sometimes
people avoid is ice cream.
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:And actually for around 88
grams of ice cream, there's
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:only three grams of lactose.
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:So if you were to have like a big
bowl of ice cream, you're probably
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:somewhere still in the region of
six to seven grams of lactose.
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:So as long as the rest of the meal doesn't
have any lactose like cheese, or you're
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:not having a really milky drink with
it, you're probably okay with a bit of
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:ice cream on a one off occasion as well.
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:If you move on to the higher lactose
containing foods like yoghurt and milk,
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:around 200 grams of yoghurt, like a plain
whole yoghurt, will have somewhere in
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:the region of 10 to 12 grams of lactose.
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:So that is a good portion of yoghurt,
, which would be around the sort of
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:limit that you can manage for lactose.
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:The main biggest jump comes if
you're drinking cow's milk, and
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:this is where a glass of milk,
like a big glass, 275 millilitres,
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:would include 16 grams of lactose.
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:So that would easily tip you into the
region of getting a lactose intolerance.
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:All these kind of results are
going to be very individual.
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:So some people will be fine with
cheese and will be able to manage
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:a little bit of milk in their tea,
but couldn't tolerate like a latte
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:or a hot chocolate made of milk.
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:Whereas other people just wouldn't
be able to manage any of that.
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:So you do have to experiment a bit
to try and find your best level.
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:But if you enjoy eating dairy
containing foods, there probably
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:is a way that you can work it out.
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:So you just need to work out
what your limit is for lactose.
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:What about lactose free milk?
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:Well, this is a good alternative
for you if you enjoy dairy foods,
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:but you have a problem with lactose,
you can switch to lactose free milk.
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:It's just milk that's added, added
an enzyme to remove the lactose.
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:So you can also get some yogurts
where this enzyme has been added and
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:it just helps to improve digestion
for those who struggle with it.
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:So it's a definite advantage which
means you can still enjoy some
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:of those foods like yogurts and
milk without the digestive issues.
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:Another question I've been asked about
dairy is what about that A2 milk?
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:So you might have seen this in the
shops, you may, may not have, it's
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:not very common and it's quite hard to
find but sometimes it's talked about
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:online as an alternative to dairy.
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:Basically, it's to do with the
protein casein that is in milk.
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:So it's about 30 percent
of the protein content.
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:Whey is another type of
protein that's in milk.
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:There are three different types of casein.
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:There's alpha, beta and kappa
and that beta casein has got
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:two types, there's A1 and A2.
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:In northern Europe, when farmers were
farming dairy, somewhere between five
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:and ten thousand years ago, there was
just a genetic mutation in the cows.
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:that increased the ratio
of A1 to A2 beta casein.
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:There are very small molecule
differences in the chemical
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:structure of this protein component.
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:A1 milk produces something called beta
casomorphine 7, which has morphine like
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:effects, as in It slows down the transit
time, and this has been shown in animal
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:studies, but not actually in humans.
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:One study has shown that some people
who drank more A1 milk, had looser
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:stools, and Had more IBS type issues.
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:So there are some evidence base that
a 2 milk may improve your ability
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:to digest it and that is because
everybody's so different But the majority
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:of cases it's probably not going to
make a difference if you don't have
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:a problem digesting dairy There is
no point in trying this type of milk.
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:So that opioid like effect though It has
been shown in some people to decrease this
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:stool mass so like have less bulk in your
stool ready to go and it may also affect
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:the bacterial mass and the motility and I
think that is really interesting thinking
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:about whether it's worth a try for you.
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:So I hope that has given you some
confidence that you can include
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:some aspects of dairy, particularly
the lower lactose foods, in
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:your diet if you so enjoy it.
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:But if you're vegan or maybe you do have a
dairy allergy and you don't have any dairy
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:at all, then what nutrients must you think
about in order to stay really healthy?
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:Well, obviously calcium, that is the
main thing that we often think about.
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:The key ways to include calcium in your
diet include green leafy vegetables,
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:sesame seeds, almonds, and tofu
that is in a water based solution.
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:So any tofu that has been sloshing around
in its calcium solution will retain
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:some of that calcium when you eat it.
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:And it's a really great way to
include calcium in your diet,
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:particularly because it has also
good protein sources for vegans.
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:Other ways to maximize your calcium
intake is to make sure that you
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:have sufficient vitamin D and that
will help you to use the calcium
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:that you do get out of your diet.
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:Normally people are recommended to eat
two to three portions of dairy per day.
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:So I really want to stress that you
should get two to three portions of
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:vegan, calcium rich foods per day as well.
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:Especially because the calcium that is in
plant based sources isn't as bioavailable,
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:which means it's harder for your body
to use them from plant based sources.
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:It's not impossible, and it's
completely possible to have
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:a great, healthy vegan diet.
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:It's just something you
need to think about.
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:Another nutrient to think about is iodine.
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:This.
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:is not naturally really high in dairy
based foods, but it is found in dairy
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:that we consume because of the way that
they clean out the dairy machinery.
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:So they slosh it on to make sure that
it is sterile and that can then lead
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:to some iodine getting into our milk.
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:This is why organic milk tends
to have slightly lower levels of
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:iodine than non organic dairy milk.
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:Iodine can be found in other
things that are from the sea.
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:So for vegans, seaweed is a great
option and I would sprinkle that
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:on your food and add it a couple of
times a week to make sure that you're
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:getting some sources of iodine.
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:If you're dairy free, but not vegan,
you could also eat some white fish,
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:so things like cod, haddock, or
include Prawns and other seafood,
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:they will have levels of iodine in
them that would add to your diet.
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:And iodine is one of the nutrients
that is routinely missed when people
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:completely give up dairy and are
following a vegan diet with no seafood.
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:This is because it's not something
you automatically think about,
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:but people can get very low in it.
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:And some of the issues with not having
enough iodine may be to reduce your
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:ability of your thyroid to work properly,
and that maintains your metabolism.
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:and controls your weight
and all kinds of things.
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:The thyroid is really
essential for keeping us going.
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:Like our little clock inside our body.
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:So iodine is helpful for that, but
also for a range of other things.
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:But it's such a micronutrient,
like we don't need a lot of it.
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:So I'm not suggesting anyone should rush
out and start taking loads of supplements.
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:But what you can do is just think about
where else to get it from your food.
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:It's not routinely added to alternative
milks in the same way that calcium is.
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:So you'll often find calcium
carbonate added to almond milk,
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:soya milk, those kind of things.
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:But iodine just isn't added as much.
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:So if we move on to choosing alternative
milks, there are There are obviously
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:tons out there nowadays of almond milk,
soya milk, oat milk, all different
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:brands, different tastes and different
types of nut milks that you can get.
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:They're actually not really allowed
to be called milks, I think they're
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:called almond drink most of the
time because milk is a protected
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:characteristic of the dairy trade.
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:And I get it, it's not an actual
milk, but, you know, it's a milk
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:drink, so it's semantics, isn't it?
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:Um, anyway, a question I get
sometimes is, What should I
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:actually drink if I am dairy free?
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:What is the best alternative?
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:My main advice for you is
to think about what you like
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:drinking and just choose that.
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:There is no way you're going to
replace the nutritional content of
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:dairy with a plant based alternative.
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:There just isn't anything that is a good
match in terms of the protein content,
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:the calcium content, vitamin D, iodine.
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:But you don't have to get
those nutrients from a milk.
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:So you can have all of those
nutrients in your very healthy diet.
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:It doesn't need to come from milk.
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:So the best thing to do when looking
for an alternative to dairy, if you're
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:switching out to a different source, is
to think about something that you like.
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:If you want to have coconut milk on your
cereal and then soya milk in your tea,
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:as an example, that is completely fine.
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:It's just whatever you
will enjoy the most.
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:For smaller children who are in a dairy
free household, or kids who can't drink
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:a lot of milk, I would try to make an
exception to that, and there is certain
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:milks which are aimed at children.
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:I don't want to like, brand drop or
anything, but there's Alpro milk,
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:soya one, that's called Growing Up, or
something that's made for children, and
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:it does try to match, um, some of the
nutrients, and try to like, be a bit
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:more of a overall good nutritious milk
rather than something like oat milk,
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:which is just basically oats and water,
which is not going to give you the amount
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:of nutrients that a dairy milk would.
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:So that's one of the reasons where,
especially when we've got children.
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:With growing bones, teeth,
everything like that.
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:They're really energetic.
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:You want to make sure that they're
hitting all of those key nutrients, but
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:once you stop worrying about what is
the best milk for you on a nutrition
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:basis, and you just think about how to
get those nutrients in another way, Then
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:it just comes down to taste and personal
preference and there's no real drama.
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:The only thing I would say is
that some milks may contain
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:things that can set off your IBS.
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:So if you're someone who's very
sensitive, be aware of ingredients.
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:Like carrageenan or other
thickeners and gums that try to
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:emulate some of the fatty content.
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:So where you're using plant based
milks, they're often very thin
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:and they try to add thickeners to
make them a bit more palatable.
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:These in some people with IBS can make
your stomach a little bit sensitive.
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:The same goes for things like
natural flavors or sweeteners.
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:Just check that it is suitable for
you and if other products containing
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:those things also have the same effect
before you rule them out completely.
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:I hope with this episode that you've
been able to see there are some nuances
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:in dairy consumption that need to be
tailored to you and your experience of
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:eating and drinking these kind of foods.
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:In my experience of working with lots
of people with IBS, there is a very big
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:difference to somebody who has cereal
in the morning with loads of cow's
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:milk on it, maybe two or three lattes
throughout the day, and then something
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:like a cheesy pasta sauce with loads
of, you know, a sauce made of milk and
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:loads of cheese for their main meal.
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:Compared to somebody who might have
a A little bit of feta in a salad,
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:maybe you have a tiny bit of milk
in a tea a couple of times a day.
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:That consumption of dairy is very,
very different, but can still give
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:you some of the benefits of getting
your correct calcium intake and
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:making sure you're getting some
of that iodine that I mentioned.
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:And also just a good source of protein,
so we mustn't forget that dairy is
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:also a good source of protein as well.
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:And if you found all of this helpful,
but you still don't know how to apply
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:it to your own life, then get in touch,
because I take on one to one clients
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:in my gut to reset, where I work with
people individually over three months.
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:If you want to work with me, just come
to my website and sign up for a free
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:discovery call where we can talk about
the issues that you're experiencing
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:and how I may be able to help.
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:That's it for this week.
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:I'm going to be back next
week, so bye for now.