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Hi, and welcome to The
Animal Welfare Junction.
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This is your host, Dr.
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G, and our music is written
and produced by Mike Sullivan.
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We are at the Hilton DoubleTree at
the entrance of Universal Orlando
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for the 2026 Animal Forensicon.
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Let's see what they have going on.
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All right, we are at the twenty twenty-six
Animal Forensicon, and here is Dr.
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Adam Stern to tell us about it.
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So thank you for inviting the
Animal Welfare Junction again.
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And what are people going
to be seeing this weekend?
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Dr. Adam Stern:
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So this weekend, we, you know,
try to raise the bar every year.
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Uh, it's, it's great having you back, so
we can share this with all your listeners
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and maybe have them come next year.
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Yes.
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Um, so, so this year we have
a couple of different things.
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We-we're doing some photography workshops
where, we're concentrating on sort of
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outdoor, crime scene documentation.
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We're doing wildlife workshops.
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We're doing, more of a domestic
animal, workshops with, dog
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fighting and cockfighting.
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We're talking about the link.
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Some of the lectures coming up are kind
of thinking outside the box a little bit.
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So one of the things we're,
we're highlighting this
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year is follow the money.
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And so we have Florida's newest, law
enforcement agency, the Gaming Commission
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here, and they're gonna talk about
how they follow the money for gambling
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and, and that relationship to some of
the animal cases like dog fighting.
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We're gonna be talking about some
best practices for fingerprints and
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essentially what not to do, because we
always say, you know, get fingerprints,
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but now we're gonna hear what we
should do and what we should not do
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to make sure we don't destroy them,
when we try-- before we get them.
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We're gonna have some toxicology
talks, We're gonna have talks on fraud.
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So really trying to highlight
some of the other kinds of crimes
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and not belittle animal cruelty.
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We have plenty of that, but we're
trying to show some of the other
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things that forensic science can
do to help with, you know, other
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statutes that the various states have.
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Dr. G:
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Well, and the link is
really important, right?
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Just because animal cruelty is related
to interpersonal violence, and I think
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that o-one of the things that I get
from the speakers and the talks is
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the variety, because then you learn
a little bit about law, and you learn
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a bit, little bit about animals and a
little bit about the different things.
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And so y- that may be your field,
and you're learning more, but if
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it's not your field, you have the
opportunity to immerse yourself into
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what other things are out there, right?
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Dr. Adam Stern:
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Yeah, and that's one of the things
that all the speakers realize is that
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we have, we have investigators here.
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We have veterinarians.
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We have some vet techs.
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We have animal welfare advocates.
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We have attorneys here.
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And so being able to teach all
of these different groups, um, is
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really important because if only
one group knows everything, and
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then the other groups know nothing,
we're not gonna move the bar, right?
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We're gonna stay at the status quo.
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But once you start educating all these
different groups at the same time, they're
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asking questions that- You know, one of
the other groups in the room might know.
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And they're like, "You never knew that?"
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And so we're starting these
conversations of, "Okay, I knew
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that, but I didn't know that.
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You knew that, but you didn't know that."
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And now we're starting to, uh, educate
all across the board and, and making
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these cases, more seamless, right?
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And knowing how to communicate with
an attorney as a veterinarian or how
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should a veterinarian, uh, interact
with an investigator and, and knowing
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the different questions and different
answers that each group can, can
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work on is gonna be really important.
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And then, you know, we help the animals,
and then we identify because of the link,
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the, the human victims out there as well.
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So there's so many connections
that we try to highlight, um, and
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teach all in these three days.
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Dr. G:
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Well, and collaboration
is important, right?
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Like, you cannot really have a
solid case without involving a
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lot of different stakeholders.
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So I feel that these, these things also
kind of inform the different people about,
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yeah, you're important because this is
what you bring and this is what all the
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other people in the, in the team bring.
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Dr. Adam Stern:
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Oh, 100%.
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You know, when I teach what is forensic
science and what is animal forensic
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science or veterinary forensic science,
um, you really have to highlight what
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the different sciences can do, right?
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There's not one science that
can answer all of the questions.
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Just think about, um, why dead, right?
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That might be a pathologist.
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How long dead might be an entomologist
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Um, pathologist might say,
"I think it's a poison."
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Toxicologist is gonna answer
that question for you.
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Um, then we find that there's a
bottle and you find the fingerprint
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on it, and so that's when a crime
scene tech and trace evidence...
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So we're all answering different questions
and then the prosecutor gets to digest all
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of that and use all of that information
when they have to go and prove their
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case ultimately in court in the end or
make a plea deal, whatever it might be.
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But having all those answers, there's
not one science that can do it all.
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Dr. G:
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Well, I love that the way that the Animal
ForensicsCon is evolving and I'm looking
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forward to what this week has to offer
and again, thank you for having us here.
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Dr. Adam Stern:
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And thanks for having us on your show.