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Astrology 101 and How To Manifest Your Dream Life with Celebrity Astrologer Aliza Kelly
Episode 7014th December 2021 • Am I Doing This Right? • Corinne Foxx and Natalie McMillan
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OUR HOSTS: 

Corinne Foxx - @corinnefoxx

Natalie McMillan - @nataliemcm and @shopnataliemcmillan 

What we're drinking: 2017 Early Mountain Rise

MEET OUR GUEST: 

Aliza Kelly - @alizakelly

Her new book, This Is Your Destiny 


ABOUT OUR GUEST: 

Aliza Kelly is a celebrity astrologer, columnist, author, and host. She has been featured in The New York Times, The New Yorker, Vogue, The Cut, and many other publications. She's the author of three books: The Mixology of Astrology: Cosmic Cocktail Recipes for Every Sign; Starring You: A Guided Journey Through Astrology; and This Is Your Destiny: Using Astrology to Manifest Your Best Life, which just came out in September! 


You can see her guest appearances on shows like The Drew Barrymore Show and The Today Show. She is also the resident astrologer of Cosmopolitan Magazine, hosts a weekly astrology podcast entitled Stars Like Us, has an online community called "The Constellation Club,” and is currently collaborating with People Magazine on the television show, Celebrity Astrology Investigation.


TOPIC: 

Whether you check your Co-Star app every morning or you’re just finding out that a birth chart isn’t a document from the hospital, celebrity astrologer Aliza Kelly is here to share how the position of the planets help define who we are. So, figure out the day, time, and where you were born, because we’re diving into all things astrology in today’s episode. 


In this episode, we discuss:

  • How the stars and planets affects our personalities 
  • Sun, moon, and rising signs (aka “The Big 3”)
  • Aliza’s journey to becoming an astrologer 
  • Short bios that define each of the 12 signs
  • How other planets show up in our charts 
  • Considering signs and placements in a dating partner
  • What is Saturn Return and why you shouldn’t be afraid of it 


END OF THE SHOW: 

Corinne and Natalie introduce Hottie of the Week: Lady Gaga


WINE RATING:  6/ Lady Gaga 


WRAP UP:

To wrap up the episode, Corinne and Natalie play Citizen’s Arrest. Natalie arrests herself for having way-too-bright headlights on her car, and Corinne arrests her mother (and all moms, really) who are laying it all out there on Facebook. 


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[00:00:04] Natalie McMillan: And I'm Natalie McMillan.

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[00:00:15] Natalie McMillan: And each week we cover a new topic, and we drink a new bottle of wine

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[00:00:39] Natalie McMillan: truly all day, every day.

But now we're going to add in our own knowledge of our birth

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This is it. This is the episode for you. We're going to be talking about dating and astrology. And if you should be considering signing. Certain

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[00:01:18] Corinne Foxx: Know what I mean? Exactly. What is your big three? A lot of people are talking about that right now. If you don't know what your big three is, we'll help you figure it out.

Yep. And she also has a new book called this is your destiny.

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[00:01:30] Corinne Foxx: the thing. The full year also wearing a moon necklace

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[00:01:51] Corinne Foxx: including myself. Oh, and, and myself. Yes. Yeah. First we have some housekeeping not,

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We have some housekeeping. We have a new mailing list. We have a new email newsletter. Comes out once a week. It's the most fun you've ever had in your life, in your whole life? Yeah, it's a little recap. It's a little cutie pie picture of whoever our guest is. If we have one and then like,

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Maybe at the end of every episode, we'll be like, and then in the newsletter, we're going to put this in. So we'll think

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[00:02:24] Corinne Foxx: of Timothy

Jason Mamoa and

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[00:02:34] Corinne Foxx: thing, guys, I'm going to spam you. We would never do that. I hate.

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[00:02:39] Corinne Foxx: for this time of year. Everyone's hitting you with those like deals. I love your deals, but like, I feel like there's mailing lists.

I did not know I was on that to have now messaged

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[00:02:53] Corinne Foxx: lamps? Plus get out of my, get out of my inbox lamps. Plus I bought one lamp one time

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[00:03:02] Corinne Foxx: me. We miss you. I'm like, no, you don't.

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Why are you calling me?

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[00:03:17] Natalie McMillan: actually fun and informative and informative. Yeah. Let's

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[00:03:24] Natalie McMillan: drinking the early mountain rise 2017.

I think it's just a red blend. Ooh, interesting though. It's from Virginia.

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[00:03:37] Natalie McMillan: I don't think they do. So. Um, we're just gonna let's let's try it out. Find.

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[00:03:51] Natalie McMillan: that I'm drinking. Oh, I was just thinking the fact that I shoved a peanut butter and jelly sandwich in my mouth in about 30 seconds before we did this. Yes.

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[00:04:12] Natalie McMillan: Okay. I'm broke out in your

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I thought I'm willing to risk my job. I will be late before I show up without a coffee. And I was like, Corrine, this feels unhinged. And I just, I knew. Everybody to know that this is what's happening. It's going to have like a toxic relationship on it. Well, it's like, I'm aware and like, I don't need other people to tell me.

And like, y'all break up with the relationship when I'm ready.

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[00:04:59] Corinne Foxx: It feels I can feel it creeping in where I was driving. And I was at cold sweats because I thought I'm not going to be, I don't have enough time to get my coffee. What am I going to do?

I don't even need

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[00:05:21] Corinne Foxx: Yes, I'm really excited to ask her, but first let's talk about why we chose this topic to begin with besides, I mean like, like we just said, we are huge astrology fans and we have been since we were teenagers and we have found it to be a really interesting tool that has made a lot of our personality traits checkout.

We also think that it has a bad rap for being. Out there or like weird or like woo. When in reality it can be very practical. In fact, actually this is something that you found that I thought that was so cool. Nancy and Ronald Reagan used astrology when they were in the white house. Isn't that cool? It said that the pair used daily astrological charts, and even prior to president Reagan's attempted assassination, it was reported that an astrologer warned Nancy about something happening on the very day that he was shot.

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[00:06:22] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. That does make sense. Yeah. It said that many of Reagan's political decisions were said to be timed astrologically, despite his denial of the use of astrology.

Very fascinating. Yes. Yeah. It's very interesting. And I'm very interested in our guests now, do you entertain.

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[00:06:55] Corinne Foxx: three books.

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[00:07:03] Corinne Foxx: darling, and cocktails,

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She's also the resident astrologer of Cosmo. And hosts a weekly astrobiology podcast called stars like us. She has an online community called the constellation club and is currently collaborating with people magazine on the television show, celebrity astrology investigation,

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[00:07:40] Aliza Kelly: geisha

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She has one on prince Harry and Meghan Markle. And she was like, these two are like astrologically destined

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[00:07:52] Natalie McMillan: explained their whole chart and like their whole life. All the transits and things that I don't understand. It was so interesting. Oh

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Let's bring on Lisa.

Hello, Lisa.

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[00:08:13] Corinne Foxx: me. Oh my gosh. We are so excited. We were saying in the intro. We're so into astrology, but not like we're, I mean, you're probably more well versed than I am, but like I still have a lot to learn. And so we're excited to have you on as like an expert through experts.

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[00:08:45] Natalie McMillan: Well, you have that book about cocktails for your sign, right?

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[00:08:50] Natalie McMillan: We love it.

Well, first and foremost, and we'll explain this later for listeners that don't know. Is your big

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[00:08:59] Aliza Kelly: now? I mean, I'm okay. So I'm tortured with this question all the time of like guests, but I would actually, if you guys don't mind, I would be curious as to what you would guess if you really genuinely don't know, do you

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I don't know, but

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[00:09:25] Aliza Kelly: Perhaps. Okay. I don't know. Cause I, I don't know.

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[00:09:38] Aliza Kelly: I know. I'm sorry. People ask me this all the time and I'm always like, this is not how astrology. So just to throw it back at you guys is like true, like torture for me. Um, I'm a Leo sun, so you

with a Capricorn rising and a high season.

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[00:10:07] Natalie McMillan: I'm also Aries moon, but I'm a Sagittarius son, Gemini rising. So this eclipse I'm prepared for this upcoming

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And so we wanted to make this episode for people. Like we're pretty well versed in the very basics of astrology, but for somebody who's listening, who has no idea, like what is astrology or it's kind of like, eh, I don't know about all that. Can you explain like what it is and how do the stars and the planets affect our personality?

Also like sometimes the way we look and like our wants and our desires, like how does that all come into play? And like the question is what is astrology?

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It is something that is very. Studied through millennia, but it is also something that is poetry. It is an art form. It is a practice. I love astrology because it is an exercise and self-love, it's an exercise and learning about people and understanding the way that the world works and really visualizing and creating language around the fact that each person is.

So very different, but at the same time, we are also very connected and the interplay of that is where astrology comes in. So I think that astrology in a lot of ways is a PR is a language of self-actualization. It's a language and empathy. It's a language and compassion, but it is, you know, technically we're looking at the position of the planets and the segmented sky in the 12 Zodiac signs in order to create that methodology and understand.

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And like, there's so many of these. Actions and phenomenons that happen just according to where in the sky, the moon and the sun and the stars are. So how could we think that we're not affected by that? Is that like a fair way of saying it to someone maybe who's like. A little not receptive to what astrology is.

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Based on where the sun was at the time that you were born. And we know that none of us would exist if it wasn't for the sun as the center of our solar system. And then we know that all of the planets through gravity are being pulled towards the sun. And then when we assign these different correspondences between what the planets are and what they signify in our own.

Existence. We have this poetic understanding of how we are sort of microcosms of the universe itself. And I think to me, that is one of the most valuable aspects of astrology, which that's a bad astrology pun because aspects of their thing and astrology, I think that one of the most valuable things is.

Allowing us to sort of note where the correspondences exists, you know, like the moon, like the sun, but then also to allow the lots of storytelling and interpretation, and that's what makes astrology an art, you know, that's what makes it something that isn't. Quantitative science, but that puts it into the, you know, the humanities category, the arts category, the spirituality category and all of those spaces where it's like, but is it this, can it be real?

It's like, well, when you're in. How a tree, when you're looking, when you're at a museum, you're not saying like, oh, well that doesn't look like a person. So it's not a beautiful painting. It's like, no, it's abstract art done by the most button done by Picasso. Like, that's it. But that doesn't make it invaluable.

That's just a different way of approaching, understanding the psyche and understanding the human condition and seeing the world.

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[00:14:53] Aliza Kelly: Well, there's like the long answer. There's the short answer or there's like the mid there's the, there's the answer that's sort of in the middle, which is, I, I guess.

I guess it was not that much of a stretch for me to get into it because I've always been interested in esoteric things. I, you know, from very young age, recognize myself as a witch and practice magic and did all of these cool, interesting things. So then, so I had all of that interest and fascination, and then in my early twenties, I was living in Los Angeles as one does.

Um, I was really having a very hard time figuring out what I wanted to do, figuring out who I was dating, like just being myself. And I felt very fragmented and to be quite honest, very concerned about my mental health, because I just didn't, it wasn't, it wasn't cohesive. And this is when I first was introduced to having a Pisces.

And it was that, that illuminated so much for me, it was so insightful. It was so profound and it actually was the first time that I felt seen. And I felt seen in being complex, I felt seen and being many things simultaneously being comprehensive and being contradictory. And from that, I just continued to learn and study, and then we would go into the longer version of this story.

But I think that that's the concise, one of how it first was, came into my orbit, so to speak.

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And maybe I wasn't able to articulate that or really like define it, but you can, you can, um, yeah. Having an Aries moon, sometimes I feel really ha like heated and it's like, okay, well, I see where that comes from. I understand. I can understand that. We're talking a lot about, like we're saying all these signs and like, you know, you have a Pisces moon and I, we both have Aries moons and for someone who's listening right now, and maybe doesn't know what these signs are or what that even means, this is kind of, you, you might not want to do this and you don't have to, but could you assign.

One word that defines each of these signs. Each of the 12 signs I would love

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And everyone has all of the Zodiac signs in their chart. So regardless of whether they have a planet in every Zodiac sign that your birth chart, which is calculated based on your date, time, and location of birth is a 360 degree wheel that contains the entire circle of Zodiac. Circle of tiny animals in Greek, and it contains the entire circle of tiny animals, which is so cute.

And everyone has that within their own reality, so we can tap into it as needed. So we start with areas and areas is. The spark it's momentum, it's force, it's passion. And a lot of this has to do with the fact that without areas, we don't have a Zodiac, you know, we need just something to get it started. We need to light the match, even if we're like, I don't really know why I just did that.

Okay. Someone needed to do it. You know, someone needed to get it going. And then from that we refine it. We move into tourists. The keyword for tourists is. Sensuality. So this is when we sort of like, you know, I like to say we liked the little flame and then we're looking around and we're being like, oh my gosh, these are some beautiful roses.

I love the way that this plate is set up. And that's because now that we have our flame and we can start looking around, we can start appreciating the earth things around us. We can. Recognizing how, you know, what we want and what we desire. And we could start sort of assigning value to things as needed.

Then we move into Gemini, which is the first air sign, and it's very much about sort of learning, communicate. Talking sharing information. If we move through our story of the Zodiac, we go from being like, oh my God, I love wine to Gemini being like, well, what are you drinking? You know, like concernment of wanting to also understand where we are socially in society.

Then we move on to cancer, which is the first of the water signs. And cancer is very much about safety and security and protection. It is about sensitivities and emotions, but it's the hard shell protecting that little sensitive softy crap part. So we want to make sure that that is, you know, protection, home stability, nurture comfort are very important for camp.

We move on to Leo. Leo is associated with the spotlight. It's when we it's the second fire sign. So it's like we have the match. And now we have a bonfire. It's about entertaining. It's about the quality. It is about sort of it's the lion. So it's wants to take up space, be very bold ruled by the sun, the center of the solar system.

Every Leo has an ego, the size of the fucking sun. Sorry. And then we move on to Virgo. Just like Leo, not all of your ideas are very good. You're going to need to pick and choose Virgo is about systems. It's about organization. It's about structure. It's about coming up with methodologies and practices that are actually going to be sustainable.

Health is also another very big Virgo principle. Then we have Libra, which is about balance and harmony, um, partnership. Equilibrium justice. Uh, how are we going to be holding, you know, how do we have multiple sides of the story and how can we talk about all of them? Then we have Scorpio, which is the second water sign and it is intensity.

It is honesty. It is privacy. It is security with Scorpio, sort of like this cancer 2.0, it's like the cancer sort of need to like be sensitive, intensifies and dials up with Scorpio. And now we're not just worrying about our feelings. We're also thinking about past, present and future. We're like trying to collect as much emotional data as we can.

We also have a stinger with Scorpio, which means that we can be defensive and offensive as well as just protective. Then we move into Sagittarius, which is the last fire sign. And the keywords for that are philosophy discovery expansion. It is a wildfire. So we have, we're taking that same fire energy, except now we.

You were using acreage to cover a lot of ground. So we want to learn everything. We want to become experts and masters, and we want to really it's, there's like a know it all nature, which I should adore. Um, then we move into Capricorn. Capricorn is the. Earth sign. And it is very much about scaling. It is about business.

It is about ambition. It's about climbing the mountain to the top. It's represented by the sea goat. So we have this sort of desire to want to, we, you know, we have this passion and this drive to want to reach these certain peaks. And that is what we value with the Capricorn. And then we move into Aquarius, which is the last of the air signs.

And it is very much about humanity. It's about the collective it's about social groups. It's taking that same sort of air sign spirit, which is in Gemini and Libra, but it's applying it to the macro. So it's saying, okay, well, how does this influence and impact society at large culture at large?

Communities at large. So it's really sort of at the same level as the clouds, looking at everything from that bird's eye view. And then finally we have Pisces, which is the amalgamation of everything. And Pisces is emotions. It's depth. It's psychic powers. It's synthesis. Um, spiritual integration. And this is also where we end the Zodiac and it makes sense that we would end it here because it's like, okay, well, you know, if I, if Pisces is all of the signs that have come before it, and it's processing spiritually, all of that, then we know that there's not really anywhere else to go from there.

We have to start over again with.

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[00:23:29] Corinne Foxx: better than the question I asked, which was like, can you give us one word? And you just like fully went through that in such a clear way. Yes.

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[00:23:42] Corinne Foxx: better than that. I feel like.

Yeah. And that was like so detailed and so easy to follow. And I feel like, I mean, like we, I, I feel like I know each side pretty well, but even just some of the extra elements you added into that was like, so enlightening for me. Yeah. I never

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[00:24:02] Corinne Foxx: does it make sense that an Aquarius and a Sagittarius would be best friends?

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I just finished watching. Six hour Beatles documentary and all of them. Yeah, it's there. All of their charts have so much fire and well, not all of them, but a lot of their charts have so much fire and air in them. And where we see the fire and air is really like where it's compatible.

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So going back to the very first question with the big three situation. So that's sun moon and your rising sign. Can you explain what the difference is between those three things?

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This is very much about like your preferences, your personality, the way that you sort of walk in it's the sun. So it's like, how do you shine? Your rising sign is your perspective on reality. So oftentimes when I was first learning about astrology, and I think this is still the case, but the rising sign was sort of framed as the mask you wear in public.

And this is obviously pre COVID actually having a mask. I think that that's bullshit. I don't think it's a good way of thinking about the rising sign, um, because it's not really. It's not like you're like, let me slip into my rising in order to interface with people you're rising is what you think the experience on the planet is, you know, it's like how you perceive the world.

So obviously your perception of reality is going to inform the way you interface with others, but it is not going, it's not like just a concept. It's really your eyes, you know, it's like, it's your. The rising sign is what sign, what Zodiac sign was coming up on the Eastern horizon at your exact time of birth.

And this is the most sensitive point in astrology. It changes every four minutes by degree and it changes Zodiac sign every two hours. So this is why having an exact time of birth is so important for calculating your big three. And then we also have your moon, which is your emotional in our world. It is what you experience internally.

So with the sun, the sun is like your day-to-day activities. It's what you can expect going about your business, living your life. And then the moon is sort of the emotional reaction to that, which really mirrors the way that the sun and moon play off each other and the sky as well. Um, the moon is.

Reflecting its own light. It is its light is reflection of the sun. So based on, and it's constantly changing, you know, it's like sometimes it's invisible. Sometimes it's a full moon. Sometimes it's a Crescent. Sometimes it's a quarter. And just like that, our emotions are constantly fluctuating and moving through things.

So the moon gives insight as to what's going on on an internal basis.

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But you were actually on, you were on the money.

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[00:27:37] Corinne Foxx: interesting. There's also, you know, talking about birth charts, there's more planets that are involved in, um, you know, making up who you are and how, how they affect you. Can you kind of briefly explain what those other planets represent in our chart?

Like I know two-parter and Venus. That are

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Mercury is your, the way you communicate Venus is your values. Mars is lay take action. And these are very much specific to who you are individually. Then on the other side of the asteroid belt, you have your outer planets, which are called. The social planets or the generational planets. And these are planets that are not just specific to your birth chart, but ones that people within the year that you were born or three years that you were born or seven years that you were born or 20 years that you were born are all going to share.

And then you move through those experiences. Together with people in your sort of like astrological cohort, so to speak. So you're growing up, you know, with your peer group. So Jupiter represents the way you expand. It's how you, it's also where your luck and abundance are. Saturn is your lessons and your responsibility.

And it's how you sort of adult to how you come into being. We have Uranus, which is innovation and discovery and. Progress. We have Neptune, which is dreams and your psyche and your spirituality, and then also your dissociation and your delusion and all of that. And then we have Pluto, which is transformation, really, really deep transformation.

And the way that through time, you are sort of going through this metamorphosis of your own. You know what missions you are coming into this world with and how that relates on a generational level.

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Cause I didn't realize that the inner there's like inner planets and outer planet, my mercury and my Venus are both also in sad. So I'm like, wow, I must be.

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Or do you think there's like there are certain signs based off your chart that you should just swear off completely? Or do you think everything's a case by case basis and you should give everyone kind of a chance and then see what actually illuminates from them.

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I have never met someone who literally was like, I'm not going to continue the conversation with this person because I just found out they were a cancer. Never met anyone who actually executes that. Right. You know, then it becomes this weird way for men in particular, you know, not to over-generalize, but to over-generalize for another, like being like, Ooh, astrology, like woe is me, these astrology chicks who like, what are they all about?

It's like, okay, no, one's actually doing that. First of all, second of all, we could probably do it a tiny bit more than that. The truth is. You can't just do it based on the sun sign and you can't be a novice doing it. You do need to have some astrology knowledge under your belt if you were to really do this.

But when I was dating people before I met my now fiance, I would always get there. Birth chart, you know, so yeah, it wasn't that I would not be with them or wouldn't try it, but I would also be like, good to know, to know how this person communicates good to know how this person expresses themselves. And then when I did finally meet who is now my fiance and the compatibility was so.

Incredible. And I came into our second day being like, listen guy, you know, take a look at this. I know it doesn't mean anything to you, but to me, this is really valuable. Like it obviously tracks we've been together for five years. So I do think that there is value and compatibility.

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Right. And like, like you were saying, and just like understanding what's going on in their inner world or. Fonda things and yeah, my were

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[00:32:44] Corinne Foxx: things, you know, I've always, I've always done. Uh, whoever I'm dating is like full chart. It's tough though, because a lot of times guys don't know what time they were born.

Exactly. And I'm like, no, I need the minutes. Okay. And they're like, I don't know,

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[00:33:03] Natalie McMillan: So the birth charts, can you. Can you kind of look at the world around us through an astrological lens, like for example, could you like make a birth chart for today basically, and sort of see what the themes are of the day?

Like as a

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Your, this is how it's going to affect an Aquarius, or this is how it's going to affect a Pisces or whatever.

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[00:34:06] Corinne Foxx: around it.

Yeah. And also when we were researching this question, we typed in to some website, like one on one is our Saturday returns and mine, hers lasts like a day mine's one month and mine was like six months. And I was like, what the

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The Saturn return is a time. It is specifically when Saturn in the sky is exactly at the point that it was when you were born and that takes approximately 29 years. So for some people, Saturn return is they have this very special experience where there's only going to be one instance of Saturn coming back.

In 29 years and it's just at that degree and it doesn't go retrograde, but for most people it goes on that point and then it goes retrograde past it again. And then it has to go through it again. So it's like, yeah, it's a six month process, six months to weeks. And

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What do I have to expect with these six months of my 29th year?

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Saturn return is when you become your own father or sibling, it is when you finally, and like, you know, to sort of step out of, then that. Father archetype it's when you become responsible for your own narratives and it's when you are then living your life, based on who you are, your rules, your perspective, your demands, your ambitions, whatever it is, and all of the things that have defined us leading up to that point.

Our parents, our siblings, our teachers, our friends, our community begin to sort of like, we, we no longer prioritize them on the other side of Saturn return. We still care about them. We still value them, but we're not being defined by them anymore. And it's really the point where we start to learn how, and we find the language to define our own experience.

So it's really becoming an adult. And in astrology and how I work with clients. When I worked with clients, my clients who are pre Saturn return, my clients who were post Saturn return, I spoke to them in totally different ways, you know, but you're not going to speak to a baby in the same way. You speak to an adult person.

And before your Saturn return, you're at bitty baby. And you know, it's like, but what does it mean? What should I do? What should. What choice, like, should I date this person? Should I take this job? It's like, no, just to have the experience, you know, like, see what happens on the other side of Saturn return.

It's. You know, the, the stakes are higher. You can't like, just fuck around because this is your life. And what you really learn in Saturn return is time and Saturn represents time and astrology. So when you have Saturn return, you have sort of gone through enough time to know what matters and what doesn't matter, where you should put your energy and your resources and where it's not worth it.

So you have just a different relationship with. Being a person being alive, being yourself. Did

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[00:37:41] Aliza Kelly: Well, it's really, I was writing my first book during my Saturn return, which was a process of discipline, you know, it's, it requires an incredible amount of structure and discipline to write a book and.

It was felt like a very literal manifestation of my Saturn return, which was like suddenly I had to become very aware of the fact that like, I didn't have that structure and discipline and I wasn't, you know, with as goal oriented, as my Capricorn rising has always been. It has definitely it had not, I was not being a good parent to myself through that process.

I wasn't taking care of myself. And then it was during that time and I'd be like, okay, like if you keep doing this shit, like you are going to die, like you can not keep staying up till like, pulling these all nighters. You're not in college anymore, baby. You know, like not going to work.

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[00:38:39] Corinne Foxx: Okay. Sounds enlightening.

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[00:38:45] Corinne Foxx: Well, at least I'm so excited to be talking to you and I'm so thankful for your time. You know, we've been talking about astrology this whole time. I know you have three books and I wanted to ask you, I mean, the answer is going to be all of them, but if you're somebody listening right now, and you're an absolute newbie to astrology, which of your books is probably the best to start with.

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So, you know, by.

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[00:39:34] Natalie McMillan: going to buy the bundle, get the bundle. So in this is your destiny. It's all about utilizing astrology to manifest your dreams, your best life. In what ways have you used astrology to manifest things for yourself?

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There's a before and after the, before of one, before I started to understand my astrology is that I was living a life. That was very much not my truth. The after is continuing to get closer and closer to my truth and working off of being, you know, working, going where the energy flows, you know, like really moving into the spaces that inspire me, that ignite me, that elicit that passion and understanding how, what that feels like.

Working with my birth chart, working with the transits and just learning, you know, being very present with myself to know what I like and what I don't like.

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[00:40:48] Aliza Kelly: but I guess TBD, you know, I've heard that before. I definitely was very Pisces moon as.

And I think I still am very, very Pisces moon. I think it depends on your birth chart. I think it depends on maybe your son. Like, I also have a very weird relationship with my son because my son has conjunct myself node, which is kind of more advanced astrology, but it's, it sort of signals anytime my ego gets out of control.

It's like something happens to like humble me. So I've had to really, I'm a very, that's very much informed the way my Leo shows up and showcases itself. It's not. Typical Leo in that way. So I don't know firsthand. I have seen that, you know, there's also a whole thing called a progress chart, which is the way that your chart unfolds over time.

And when I'm working with people in their forties and fifties and sixties, I tend to look at the progress chart as well as their brain.

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[00:41:46] Natalie McMillan: in. No, it is so fascinating. And I'm so glad that we've been able to talk

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Your books, your Instagram, everything that you're doing in our show notes. So people can find you and connect with you. And thank you so much for taking the time to talk to

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[00:42:16] Corinne Foxx: is we didn't mention this at the top, but when we were brainstorming guests and we really wanted to have you on I, a DMD, you and then I looked, and there was a DM from you to me that was like three months earlier that I had never seen.

And it was just like, we were, we were like freaking out. Oh, my God. Like I can't believe it. And so anyways point being is that this was a match made in heaven. This was the

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[00:42:47] Natalie McMillan: This is definitely a Tang,

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Okay. Awesome. Thank you so much.

Wow. She's so knowledgeable. I feel like, I feel like we kept just going.

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Oh, he did you book with him yet? You sent me as availability and I just need to look at my calendar for December.

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[00:43:34] Corinne Foxx: My Natalie has like a media man that she's worked with and spoken to. And so I was trained to reach out to him, but I am going to talk to him and I'll let you guys know how it goes.

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[00:43:54] Corinne Foxx: texted him. Oh no. I had emailed him. He never got back on the email, but he does have three, three different emails, email addresses. Yeah. So I clearly emailed the wrong one, but then I texted him and then I don't know, it got lost.

And I was like, this man's dead. I thought he's dead. So then I went to text them and he had responded. I'm not kidding, like two hours later and was like, Hey, yeah, here's my availability. I was going to tell you now that I think he's. I

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He's not, he's not a spring chicken. No, he normally,

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[00:44:42] Aliza Kelly: We're getting there.

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[00:44:50] Corinne Foxx: I feel like I need a deeper understanding of everything,

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You know what I mean? This

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[00:45:14] Natalie McMillan: it is the early mountain rise. It's a red blend from Virginia of all

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[00:45:24] Natalie McMillan: love. Our Hottie, I must stand of our hot tea.

Who doesn't. It is miss lady Gaga, Ms. Stephanie Germanotta. She apparently has her own squad of spiritual advisors, who she turns to when planning tours and she won't do them during mercury

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Multimillion dollar contract. And I'll be like, no, I'm not signing

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Oh my God. The insulation got like rained on like all kinds of stuff went wrong. And she's like, I did this to my. Well,

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[00:46:32] Aliza Kelly: don't, I don't love

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It's in the like five, six range for me. I'll give it a, give it a six. I was at a six. That's

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[00:46:43] Corinne Foxx: to write super star

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[00:46:50] Natalie McMillan: Actually, speaking of star, if I had to, if I don't think I've ever been star struck, but I think I would

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Golden globe, she won the golden globe for American horror story. And. I met her cause she accepted her, uh, award and I walked her off stage and she tripped a little bit, which was not on camera, but we got her, but that was

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[00:47:23] Corinne Foxx: I don't think if I saw her in not then.

Cause she, I think really, I mean, I I've always really loved her, but I think after I saw a star is born and I was like, holy shit,

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I know. But if she did, that would be the one instance where I'd be like, oh my God, that or Paul McCartney, I think

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[00:47:51] Natalie McMillan: Yeah. Paul McCartney. He's so old. He's a beat

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[00:47:58] Corinne Foxx: anyway,

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[00:48:03] Corinne Foxx: lady

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[00:48:11] Corinne Foxx: this is the time of the show where you play little wrap-up Gabe and this week we're playing citizens. Arresting something that needs to be arrested. I said I had something, but I'm not sure if I do so not. Oh, why don't you go?

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I know the drama. I know it was why. So the other day it was nighttime. I was coming home. I. Locked my car. And then I know, you know how sometimes the lights stay on, like while you're walking in your house. So I had never really turned around to look at them. And when I turned around, I realized I'm one of those cars that it looks like your brights are on and you're blinding everybody.

You know, those cars, you

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[00:49:01] Natalie McMillan: Yeah, they were on because they like turn off after like a minute or

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[00:49:08] Natalie McMillan: I had my regular lights on. Oh, I have those lights that like, look like brights. So when you're driving past me, I'm absolutely blinding you.

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[00:49:20] Natalie McMillan: person. I didn't know. So I must arrest

myself.

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[00:49:29] Natalie McMillan: unpleasant. If you see me on the road, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I can't control it.

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Ooh, maybe not yours, but, but most mothers, um, my mom's got to get rid of her Facebook

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[00:49:54] Corinne Foxx: Facebook, they need to be stopped. They need to be arrested. They need to go to court and go to jail.

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[00:50:02] Corinne Foxx: mom is on this. If I send this woman. Before she responds to me, it's on Facebook first and then she'll respond like so cute, but she has to post it.

And she's like my beautiful daughter. Can you believe this thing that she, and it's like, it's very braggy. It's very much so it's like

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[00:50:25] Corinne Foxx: And I think a lot of moms do this where their Facebook is their world.

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[00:50:35] Corinne Foxx: accurate.

Oh yeah. That's a whole nother thing. So yeah, the campaign is moms off Facebook,

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[00:50:45] Corinne Foxx: It means to stop the behavior needs

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[00:50:51] Corinne Foxx: you. You don't always know if God

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[00:50:55] Corinne Foxx: Well, thank you.

Well, before we go, guys, don't forget our news letter. If you guys don't want to miss an episode, you can go on our website. Am I doing this right? pod.com. Sign up for our newsletter. It's fun. It's flirty. We're doing, we're doing cool things. There's going to be really fun. Little Giphy in this week. And you, you don't want to miss it.

You don't, you don't want to miss it. It's a party

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[00:51:22] Aliza Kelly: you.

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