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Coming Monday...When Expectations Collide with Formation
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Apostolic leadership serves as a catalyst for the disruption of settled expectations within church communities. This episode elucidates the premise that such leadership does not aim to maintain comfort within established systems, but rather to uphold faithfulness to core principles. Comfort, as we contend, poses a significant impediment to the vitality of church planting and outreach efforts. When congregants become complacent, their engagement diminishes, thus stymieing the potential for growth and outreach. We acknowledge that while systems can provide structure and support, they may also cultivate an atmosphere of ease that is antithetical to the essence of a life committed to the teachings and challenges inherent in a crucified existence.

Coming Monday on Echoes Trough Eternity we will discuss In this episode of Echoes Through Eternity, we explore what happens when spiritual formation begins to reshape your pace, your availability, and your leadership—while others still expect the version of you that ran on urgency.

Drawing on the wisdom of Jesus, Alan Hirsch, Henri Nouwen, Richard Rohr, and lived pastoral experience, this conversation names the quiet collision between formation and expectation.

If you are leading with care, protecting your soul, and feeling tension instead of applause, this episode is for you.

Formation always disrupts assumptions.

The question is whether you will stay faithful when it does.

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On the next episode of Echoes Through Eternity.

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Apostolic leadership disrupts settled expectations Hirsch is clear about this.

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Apostolic leadership does not exist to keep systems comfortable.

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It exists to keep them faithful.

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One of the enemies of a church plant is comfort.

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Because when people settle into comfort, they settle and the outreach becomes harder.

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Getting volunteers becomes harder because people have settled into a routine.

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They become comfortable with the size and the people that are there.

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And the kingdom of God is never about comfort.

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There's nothing comfortable about a crucified life.

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So the systems help keep us faithful, but they can also create comfort.

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We don't want chaos, but we've got to balance that.

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There is going to be a certain level of chaos within our church plant.

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You need to expect that.

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Apostolic leadership always unsettles expectations.

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Apostolic leaders ask different questions.

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Why are we doing this?

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Who is this forming?

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What is this producing over time?

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