In this bonus episode of Fathoms, we talked to the creators of the innovative enneagram resource, “Enneaflip,” Scott Allender & Ashlee Sikorski. Scott and Ashlee together form Sway Leadership, a leadership development and emotional intelligence consulting firm. 

1:05 Who are Ashlee [Type 4] and Scott [Type 3]?

6:00 How did Ashlee and Scott invite the enneagram into their lives?

11:20 Something surprising/counterintuitive about your type 

16:30 About Ashlee’s Nine Shapes Project

19:15 What the heck is an Enneaflip? 

24:00 What’s challenging about introducing the enneagram to orgs & and what’s limiting about using the enneaflip? 

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Follow Scott on insta @eqenneagram 

Check out Scott and Ashlee’s work at Sway Leadership: https://www.swayleadership.com/

Check out the Enneaflip here: https://www.swayleadership.com/enneaflip 

Check out Ashlee’s Nine Shapes Project here: https://nineshapes.co/ 

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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”

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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser

Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore

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