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CEO Transformation: what enterprise change teaches the CEO the hard way | Mike Ettling (former CEO, Unit4) - S14E18
Episode 5112th June 2025 • The Defining Move | Leadership and CEO Evolution for Scaling Businesses • Richard Medcalf | CEO Strategic Leadership & CEO Transformation Expert
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What if your transformation is not stuck because the strategy is wrong, but because the organisation has not learned how to behave differently yet?

In this episode, Richard speaks with Mike Ettling, former CEO of Unit4, about what it really takes to lead enterprise transformation when the stakes are high and the scrutiny is intense.

Mike led Unit4 through a six-year shift from a federated, on-premise software business to a more unified, cloud-first organisation. But the deeper lesson is not about software. It is about the CEO work behind any serious transformation: changing behaviour, building the right team, holding investor pressure, and creating enough cadence and purpose for the business to move.

For founders and CEOs scaling a business, this is a sharp reminder that CEO Transformation is not just a personal development idea. When the business model changes, the operating model, leadership team, stakeholder rhythm, and CEO identity all have to change with it.

You'll learn:

  • Why the product shift is often easier than the behaviour shift
  • How to hire for hardship, failure and team dynamic, not just CV credentials
  • Why confidence and self-doubt can coexist when you are surrounded by brilliant people
  • How private-equity value creation becomes more powerful when it is wrapped in purpose
  • Why controlling the corporate cadence is one of the CEO's most practical sources of leverage

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