00:00 Introduction and Remote Setup
01:42 Weekend Recap and Fair Adventures
03:41 Diving into Luke 11: The Lord's Prayer
08:46 Persistence in Prayer and Receiving the Holy Spirit
11:20 Jesus' Teachings: House Divided and Unclean Spirits
16:05 Rebuking Hypocrisy: Woes to Pharisees and Lawyers
19:13 Conclusion and Prayer
Audio Only - All Participants:
Hey, welcome back to another
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:edition of the daily Bible podcast.
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:Remote edition, remote edition.
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:Why?
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:Well, we both, you and I,
I think you're at home.
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but you're at the office.
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potty training stage, diaper stage.
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:And yeah, there's, they're both pretty
young, so leaving them alone at home,
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to stay home just to, just to make
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kibble and bit and some water, but
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:I think the, the people listening to
this, especially the ladies, probably
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in from the women's retreat, she's
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from the women's retreat.
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long if they're still down there.
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it was, what it was like.
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we know it's going to be good.
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to be like, Oh, well, it
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have a great time at rest, but yeah,
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:Sunday we're uh, we're back at church.
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:We've got a regular service today.
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:No, no special events, no communion
service or anything else like that.
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every Sunday is special.
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up on, on the podcast or not.
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but are they that good?
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dollar equal, whatever conversion rate.
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at it and you're like, Oh, 10 tickets, it
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the cheesecake too, that, that you
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the, uh, Biscoff cheesecake and
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situation, wasn't it?
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we might go back just for that.
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kids out from school, playing
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because it was much more enjoyable.
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parking, but the more the merrier.
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I know last year we had a situation,
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courts, but as long as that doesn't
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a little bit more robust this year.
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the metal detector thing and
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random, uh, a random frisk again,
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I go to the airport.
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I will be randomly frisked.
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to wonder, uh, is it random?
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agent angry with me for some reason?
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our Bible reading for the day.
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today's reading good at talking.
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:Luke 11, and it starts out with,
with quite the, the passage.
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:So Luke 11, one through four shorter
treatment than what we found in Matthew.
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:Uh, six, nine through 15
is the parallel account.
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treatment of prayer here.
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that the Lord gives, but doesn't go
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but again, just to drive this home,
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liturgy that we recite this rote.
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them how to pray, which is the The
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disciples, Lord, teach us to pray.
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all the time, every day, all the time,
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of be a violation of the thing that
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that we don't prescribe you to say
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Hail Marys, that kind of thing.
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to pray the Lord's prayer, but where
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that's not helpful or useful is
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church, which I know my mom
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and still part of that, I believe.
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the liturgy there, the stand up, sit
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but there was no fight, fight, fight.
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of one of those services.
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fight, fight, fight part.
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in and of itself for so much.
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all its meaning because you're doing
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going through the same prayers,
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through the motions now on that point.
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extent we are predictable and it can
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us too So this is just a reminder to
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to make sure that we're not Slipping
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motions when we show up at church on
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thought whether it's our prayer life
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worship or listening to the sermon You
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great thoughtfulness and intentionality.
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wanted with our prayer life too.
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think that there's any, I don't
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phrases that I go to, I try my best
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tired of hearing from me.
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but I noticed that a lot of the
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in much the same way.
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just a mindless chatter with God, as
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kind of that reverential, fully aware,
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Sunday mornings, being aware of that,
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temptation to just go through the
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kind of walk through things as you're
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there is not just to encourage people
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to, to help people prepare for when
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there before the service, taking
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the passage is going to be preached
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to, um, to really think about the songs
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the inside of the bulletin.
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playlist, I think weekly on, um,
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that's going to be like ahead of time.
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you, it doesn't, you can't expect it
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default is just to go through the motions.
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kind of sit passively.
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of exhaustion coming out of
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of preparation for us to do that.
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I don't know, more than 5 percent
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things like that take effort.
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really starts the night before I am
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rest the night before I go to bed early.
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in before church because I
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talking about all day, every day.
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really want to have that.
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working against me, but day by
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and right goal for us to pursue.
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through 13 and Luke 11 to talking about
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there, um, of a, a friend who comes to one
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on the door and says, Hey, I need three
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the impudence and, and, and yet it's that
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to get up and, and, and provide the,
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you would never expect him to do that.
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for receiving good things.
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uh, that's the, the context here.
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said, when Jesus says, you know, the
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how to do that, then how much more
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Holy spirit to those who ask him?
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from what we read, uh, about this
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Because he doesn't say good gifts.
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father give the Holy Spirit?
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on the significance in that
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could give us is his Holy spirit.
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like he's giving us a more broad based
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an invitation for us to experience
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best is going to be his Holy Spirit,
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Ephesians chapter five, where to walk by
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spirit, where to, uh, Seek to be filled
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we can experience more or less of the
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:spirits empowerment in our day to day
lives, uh, based on how much we engage
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disciples had such a radically
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this time than we do totally because
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the spirit until his ascension.
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my spirit is going to come upon you.
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not until Pentecost that the spirit
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followers, not even all of the followers.
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have some interesting situations.
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going and laying hands on people that
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but have not yet received the spirit.
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there, but this is an interesting, you,
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of mind and how did they understand
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through the church age.
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Jesus casting out demons by demons.
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leaves out, at least in this section,
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the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
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the other synoptic writers, um, Connect
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out a demon and the Pharisees are saying,
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that's dangerous territory there.
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going on, how does that even work?
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in Luke, uh, Luke 11, not sure why he
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the blasphemy of the spirit part, but he
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he was, uh, preparing this, this
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others do in this, this situation.
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spirit versus 24 to 26.
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that's a little odd to read about.
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is the Pharisees and they looked like
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uh, from their external righteousness,
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with God, truly, then they were.
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enemy and they were going to be used
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of saying, hey, lest you think
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that you're not really clean.
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in the upper room when Jesus says,
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instance of him talking about that.
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you've got the outside clean.
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danger to the inside being not only
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spirit is another way to talk
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friends or relatives, perhaps.
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Mariolatry here when in Matthew, uh,
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the crowd raises her voice and says,
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in the breasts at which you nursed.
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blessed rather are those who
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I don't, I've never seen anybody
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Mariolatry, by the way, that means the
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that connection there, but that struck
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Mary and saying, no, blessed rather
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and do it, which is similar to when
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and say, Hey, your family is here.
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they're, they're my brothers and mothers.
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um, not against the family, but when
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he's definitely putting Jesus first.
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Catholic would respond to this.
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be able to say, well, this, uh,
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this, this is first and foremost.
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not this time or no, not in that order.
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that's the wrong, that's the wrong
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Luke is making it evident.
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allegiance, even over our closest
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earlier in Luke's gospel as well.
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show us the sign of Jonah.
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in Matthew's gospel, um, in the
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you're not going to get a sign.
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to have is the sign of Jonah.
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the, the, the flexibility.
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their accounting of time
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it, it, it measures up to the
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because the, the light, the,
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:Um, you want your eye to be bright.
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:You get on me for not being creative.
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:So, um, this is in the
sermon on the Mount.
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it in, in this context.
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:Um, and he just says, Hey, be, be careful
that the light in you not become dark.
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thing for us to, to be mindful of what
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a huge impact on the rest of the body.
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:Um, and the, the, the purity and the
holiness, the godliness, uh, it's, it's
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that we see and he didn't even live in.
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:The time that we live in as
far as the the modesty issues
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jesus direct jesus because he's going
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:to take on the the pharisees and the
lawyers And he issues these woes against
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:them the parallel to this is found in
matthew chapter 23 And so in this section
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:he is giving woes against the pharisees
to start and then One of the lawyers
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these things you insult us also and
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:jesus says Buckle up, buddy Because then
he turns to the lawyers and he starts
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:issuing the woes to the lawyers too.
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:So, um, the, the, the word of woe
was a word of, of curse or damnation.
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I called it direct Jesus.
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:Jesus is rebuking their hypocrisy.
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their self righteousness.
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says, therefore also the wisdom of God
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where that comes from.
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book that has that quote.
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book that we found that has that either.
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:So It may have been a given or
known statement in the time,
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:um, but, uh, Jesus says, you are
the ones that have done this.
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:You are the ones that are,
are, are guilty of this.
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:Uh, and so in verse 51, they're going to
be held accountable for rejecting the,
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:the, the prophets from Abel to Zechariah.
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:So Abel, interesting that they list
him as, as the, or Jesus lists him
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:as the first prophet, all the way
to Zechariah being the last prophet
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the Abel's reference there, Pastor?
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no, no particular insights other than
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profit sometimes in ways that are more
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interesting question that I
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that idea that the, the blood of Abel
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of, of Christ speaks a better word.
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Abel being the, the prophetic message
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of Christ is, is providing
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righteous hypocrisy of the Pharisees
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ends there with that focus.
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to me here is he continues to harp on
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give alms, uh, give as alms.
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behold, everything is clean for you.
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:Uh, the idea here is he doesn't
want religious conformity.
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about this in prairie.
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are uttered in vanity or thoughtlessness?
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we give him all we are.
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to give him something else, uh, to
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some kind of presentation of what you
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game because he's not into that.
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worship that comes from the
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:Well, let's pray and then we'll
be done with this episode.
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:God, thanks for this, uh, this time.
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:We, we want to be as just as pastor was
saying, we want to be men of integrity.
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in who we are before you.
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or any other day of the week for that
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:matter, before you're trying to impress
you by going through the motions,
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yet not having any heart behind it.
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but by your spirit that you have
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possible and so allow us to do that.
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:We would pray in jesus name.
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:Amen All right, keep reading your bibles
and tune in again tomorrow for another
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