This episode with sit down with a Disney Coordinator and find out what it takes to work for the mouse.

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Now, here are your anchors, Derek Johnson II and Nicholas Killian.

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I'm Nicholas Killian.

And today we are joined by Taylor, also known as TayMakesMagic.

Hello!

Hi, how you doing?

What's going on?

I am doing great.

I'm so excited to be here.

Really?

Also, we do have to say we just heard you drove two hours to come do this recording.

Which is, I, this is a little embarrassing for us because as our listeners know,

We take the show on the road, meaning that her needing to come to us, it

defeats the purpose of the show.

So next time it won't be like that, Taylor, I promise.

I got to come on an adventure.

I am so glad to be here.

Tell us where you're coming from, that it took two hours.

I am all the way in Anaheim over in Orange County, right

by the happiest place on earth.

We all know.

Oh, Disneyland.

Yes.

You So we met Taylor at Comic Con, L.

A.

Comic Con just recently today it is December 11th.

So Comic Con, L.

A.

Comic Con was what, last weekend?

Yeah.

Not this past weekend, but last, this last weekend.

First to the third.

First to the third.

Yeah.

Taylor, if you guys keep up with our any of our social media or any

of our personal posts, she was the Venom cosplay that was killing me.

Yeah.

That's who she is.

But you work at Disney, don't you?

I do!

And by the way, that was still one of my favorite photos from that day that I took.

So I'm so glad we got to do that.

It was very fun.

It was very fun.

But yes, I do work at Disney, and I am going on almost three years.

Three years.

You work at what do you do at Disney?

I am basically a coordinator.

At Disneyland, I get to do all sorts of really crazy things ranging from

events to educational workshops to just general entertainment stuff.

And what are you working on right now?

Can you say?

Yeah, right now I'm just doing basically what we like to call

abnormal entertainment offerings.

Essentially anything that's not part of your typical Park schedule, like

things that are not the parades.

Oh, not the parades.

Because the parades are usually like everyone bases what they do off of,

is it before or after the parade?

Exactly.

So it's like guest groups that come to perform ranging from

like middle school to colleges.

And recently we had a group of seniors come and perform and do some dance.

It was really cute.

Oh, that sounds really awesome.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's really exciting.

What were they singing?

The group today was singing all sorts of musical theater tunes.

It was pretty great.

They were very excited to be there.

A lot of our, a lot of our listeners, they are, so they work in the industry

and or they want to get into the industry now, Disney, we're going

to, a lot of our listeners know, I used to work at Disney world.

She works at Disneyland, even though they are related.

These are two completely different.

I specifically chose Anaheim over Florida because I did not

want to deal with the humidity.

So props to you!

It's so bad.

It is it's you take a shower, and when you get out of the shower, you'll

sit on your couch for two minutes, and you need to take another shower.

You're already sweating.

I don't know.

I don't really mind the humidity.

He's from Louisiana.

We're gonna ignore him.

You're used to it.

You were born used to it.

I'm a California kid, right?

I'm spoiled.

He was born with the abilities.

And both of his parents are from Louisiana, aren't they?

True, yeah.

True Louisiana.

He's not a He's not a Born and bred.

Born and bred.

You're meant to be in the humidity.

I'm No, I'm weak.

So something that's quite interesting about what you do compared to what

a lot of our listeners might do when they're working on films and

television is that your stuff is live.

Yes.

Meaning that there is no takes.

Yeah.

No room for You have to, and if, whenever mistakes happen, you just

have to act like they didn't happen.

Exactly.

You have to pivot immediately.

So what does it take to be a coordinator?

What kind of, what did you, I'll ask this, what is your background that allowed

you to prepare for something like this?

Yeah Nicholas and I were talking about Kind of my career history and

my personal history of just how I got to where I am and I have always

been called a renaissance woman.

Okay.

What does that mean?

I've dabbled in so many different things Oh, we talked about I've

worked with horses in the past.

I have a psychology degree.

I've worked in recruitment with health care like And now I'm doing

essentially the equivalent of stage management for live events.

Just as a real quick recap.

Yeah.

You learn how to ride horses.

You have a psych degree and then you also did stuff in the health industry.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

She's a spy secretly.

She has all the training.

So tell us.

So we were talking about the story of how you went from a recruitment manager.

To a coordinator working at Disney.

And when he says we, he means previous to the show, but yes, continue.

Yeah.

Before filming this show.

Yes.

So can you please tell us the story about how that happened?

Yeah, absolutely.

So of course I have the cliche story of growing up in LA.

And wanting to work at Disney eventually, because it was such a

quintessential part of my childhood.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Who wouldn't want to?

Cause especially when you're a kid, it's just so big and magical.

I remember telling my parents that when I went to Disney, I was like,

yeah, I'm going to work here one day.

Every kid.

Every kid wants to work at Disney.

Yeah.

Back home, it's Applebee's.

You know what?

That sounds eventful too.

That might be just as crazy.

And it seems more attainable actually.

Yeah.

Yeah, there you go.

Work for McDonald's.

Key to life is lower your expectations.

But yeah, I basically Grew up in L.

A.

County moved to Santa Barbara for high school and college, and then I

started that job with the healthcare organization in recruitment,

and I just was not feeling it.

I was, I did not like it.

What about it were you not feeling?

I am a big people person, and so since it was on the tail end of the pandemic,

like the height of the pandemic I was in an office by myself and I was

just like, yeah, really isolated.

You were dealing with just numbers.

Yeah.

And I was not having it.

I would talk to people on the phone for maybe five minutes, sit

on a zoom meeting and that's it.

That sounds like terrible.

Yeah.

And I do love organization.

I love paperwork.

I'm a nerd like that, but I also want to have that interpersonal

connection, so I just started looking.

And throwing things at the wall, applying for things at Disney.

And What made you say Oh, okay, now I'm gonna start applying

to Disney, compared to prior.

Was that just your breaking point?

You were like, okay, I'm done.

I want to go do something that I actually want to enjoy, basically.

Kind of.

I loved my co workers up in Santa Barbara, but I had already

been keeping my eyes out.

Because I was like, okay, I've graduated college.

would like to start seeing if there's a door that I can

stick my foot into with Disney.

And they had a posting for a stable attendant at Disney.

Background of horses.

Horse girl.

Exactly.

Yeah.

For a while my friends called me professional horse girl while

I worked there and I almost put that on my linkedin Did you really

think I should have you should?

I mean you have to be in the right industry for that, right?

You know i'm saying if you work in a glue factory and it

says professional horse girl.

I'm, not sure how positive that might not be Actually, you might get hired.

It's true.

I don't know what the implications are Right, you work in a glue

factory, but you were a horse girl.

What does that mean?

Yeah, how are you getting that glue?

Yeah, that's right.

That might be what I heard you extract from the horse that

you're getting the glitch from.

You ask him nicely.

So when you.

First got hired for the stables for those of the first some people who

haven't been to Disneyland Which most a lot of there's actually a lot of

people who haven't been to disneyland.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, they're quite a few What's going on with the horses over there?

Yeah.

They do special events If you've ever seen like the fairy tale weddings, they

pull cinderella's coach And there's also a daily operation with what we call

the Main Street horse drawn streetcars.

Oh, yeah.

Where like Main Street is like that turn of the century sort of technology.

That's the daily parades, right?

The daily parades go through the land.

Yes, it does go through Main Street.

Yeah.

But when the parades are not happening, there's Basically a trolley on tracks,

that's horse pulled that I got to work on.

It looks like a set, like a, like a 1950s set.

Yeah.

A little bit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They have they have like little Easter eggs on the windows.

Yeah.

It's so cute.

It's really cute.

So you dealt a lot with that section, like carrying the horses and things like that.

Yes.

So how does that then relate to Dealing with, cause those

are dealing with live animals.

What was that?

Live guests.

Live guests.

Who are not paying attention to their surroundings and have a

2000 pound animal coming at them.

And they're just trying to take a selfie in front of the castle.

And we're like, Hey, you got to move.

We can stop the horse, but also.

So everything in Disneyland is like a show.

Exactly.

Everything needs to be perfect.

You yourself are a cast member.

So it's just live quote unquote, because the park is a show.

How do you deal with.

It's like improv for serious.

Absolutely.

Yeah, how do you deal with them messing with the horses

or how do you keep the show on?

Yeah, it, it brings me back to what you were asking about how you pivot in a live

situation in my current role as well.

Where it's just improv.

It's yes anding, but without making it necessarily comedic.

You just have to use that skill set of taking from your surroundings and

trying to be like, Hey, very politely, we need you to move and not do that.

These horses are going to kill you.

They're so friendly.

But yes, if you have a 2, 000 pound animal coming at you with a car

attached to the back, we can stop.

But, it would be nice to have some, it would be nice to have some leeway, yeah.

And a lot of the horses they put blinders on them.

Yes, they all have blinders.

So if a certain angle, they're literally not going to see you.

It's actually not even their fault if you come to them from a certain

angle, they actually do not see you.

And they're all really hard to spook, but please don't test that.

And they are well trained, but they're also live animals, so they are

unpredictable, just like live guests.

So did you get promoted?

You were a handler of animals, and then you got promoted to coordinator?

To handler of people.

Handler of people.

The funniest like, you do so well with animals, now do people.

Now do the real animals.

We have the pretend trained animals, now deal with the real human animals.

Yeah, here's your test run, and you've passed that, so here you go.

But, one of my co workers actually transferred to the stable attendant role.

From the role that I am now in.

Oh, so you guys just switched.

Yeah, she she recommended that I apply when the job opens.

So that way she could take your job.

She couldn't handle the real animals.

What is this, Game of Thrones?

Oh my goodness.

Is this House of Cards?

Where it's oh, we should switch positions.

Why don't you be vice president?

No, hey she went on to be a manager.

She also got a promotion.

But Yeah I just ended up applying for this role because it aligned

with, yes, internally cause it aligned with my skill set.

I have about seven years of stage management whereas I had

two years of horse experience.

So do you previously had some experience with drama?

Yeah.

Do you think that really helped you prepare for your job as a coordinator?

Oh, absolutely.

Absolutely.

And my job just as a general cast member, even while I was working

with the horses, because it's just knowing how to talk to people.

In high pressure situations and how to kindly, but sternly say, Hey,

you're not supposed to be doing that.

Please don't climb over the wall and try to jump in the moat.

We really don't want you to do that.

That happens a lot.

Thanks so much.

That happens like shockingly way more than you want it to.

And the crazy part is the skill level and pressure level is heightened because

these people are from all over the world.

And a lot of, not a lot of them, but there's a potential that they

could not understand what you're saying, regardless of your efforts.

Some people assume like that.

Oh.

I speak English, French, and Spanish, so I'll be able to talk to everyone.

That's not true.

Yeah.

There are different dialects.

There's all sorts of different things.

In addition to you already being in a loud and noisy theme park

environment, where there are way more interesting things to look at.

It's almost like you have to play charades with some people.

Yeah, it does feel like that, especially if you're trying to communicate from a

long distance of especially while I was with the horses we would be in safety

critical positions where we couldn't.

Leave our post, but I would make eye contact with somebody who's doing

something silly in front of the castle.

And I'm like, Hey, no, cut it.

Don't do that.

But I can't yell because I don't want to interrupt everybody else's day.

We can make eye contact and you're like, you're not supposed to be doing that.

Where's your parents?

Very much charades speaking.

Speaking of that, could you speak to, we were talking about this beforehand.

The number one rule of Disney is not interrupting what?

Not interrupting number one, guest flow, but also guest experience.

Because, like you were saying, they're, it's all a giant show.

And everything is supposed to be perfect, all the time.

It's quite interesting once again, I worked at Disney World, so I'm sure there

are, there's only corporate overlaps, I'm sure, between Disney World and Disneyland.

But I do remember there are certain ways that you have to point if something,

if some guest is doing something that they're not supposed to, you cannot

go up there and be like, stop it.

You need to go hire security.

Not hire.

You're going to tell Disney security.

They'll call them.

They'll call them.

And a lot of times, Disney security is actually.

They're friendlier up front.

Oh, yeah.

Way, way more friendly than you think they would be.

They're super nice.

Yeah.

But I've never, I did, I was on the entertainment side, right?

Like dancing and whatnot.

And I also worked in food and beverage too, a little bit.

You got both.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I got both of those roles.

But being a coordinator, I'm sure there's some technical skills

that you might need to know.

Oh, absolutely.

What those might be?

Some of them are just, radio skills and being able to feel confident

communicating with people from distances.

When you say radio skills, you mean Saying 10 4.

Yeah, exactly.

No one like radio slang.

All the lingo.

Yeah, all the lingo, they teach you at Disney what the specific Disney

radio slang is, but feeling confident with that will give you a leg up.

And then in some of my events, we end up calling the show meaning that we

have a headset on and everybody else Who is in charge of actually pushing the

buttons to make the lights or sound or what have you actually happen is also

on that same channel on the headset.

And so then you're the one who ends up, saying this happened now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Execute.

Is there some cause I'm thinking now since you're recording, there's probably

some things you have to memorize.

Do you like?

Like, how long does it take to train for that coordinator job?

Like, how long do you shadow someone?

Because I'm sure that Anyone who's been to Disney is going to know that

the Magic Castle looks nothing like Space Mountain, looks nothing like,

over, near Splash Mountain or whatever.

But as a coordinator, you can afford to say, oh, I don't know.

Yeah.

So how long does that training usually take?

Strangely enough For my role, it was about three days of what

we call classroom three days.

And then that's like your groundwork.

After three days, you're good.

Okay, go just go ahead and figure it out for like just basic knowledge.

Oh yeah.

For when I got trained to do like the actual shows and stuff that was.

One day of training of shadowing and then one day where somebody shadowed

me and made sure that I know I knew what I was doing So you so seems

like you didn't get enough training.

You have to just figure it out.

Yeah I was about to say it seems like it's bad to the wolves a little

bit Yeah I guess you since you have previous stable experience.

They were like No, I don't think they would have cared if she had

any prior experience They're just like you can either do this job

or you can't honestly like They, is it a lot of pressure like that?

I wouldn't say pressure, but I would say they're gonna push you.

Until you don't feel comfortable.

But if you don't feel comfortable, they will give you more training.

Yeah.

It was That's fair.

That's fair.

I had the leg up of knowing how to call a show.

Because of all of my stage management experience.

So I was like, all, I'm fine.

It's just a matter of learning this specific space.

How we can This specific way of doing things.

Exactly, yeah.

The Disney way.

The Disney way, yes.

Which has been the hardest learning curve for me, is that I have all of this

experience that transfers over nicely in terms of My abilities, but it's learning

how to apply those abilities to the Disney way because there are so many Different

tiny departments that don't exist anywhere else except for such a large

corporation So do you feel like that?

This was obviously this is more like the big time version of what you used to do

Yeah, I feel like in a way but in another way It's completely different, because

other people might consider like Broadway, the big leagues of stage management.

Yeah.

Which is completely different because you are on your own and you're in

charge of all your crew, and yes, you partner with departments, but

there's no massive corporate overlord, with all the red tape necessarily.

There probably is some, I don't know, so maybe, yeah, but this is very

niche in terms of it just being theme park specific, do you do a lot of.

Is it a lot of doing the same show or is there a bunch of, she's saying it.

No, she's saying it.

Immediately, my brain went absolutely not.

And that is why I love my job.

No day is ever the same.

One thing that I would ask you is, so I've previously been a stage manager.

Okay.

Yeah.

And then not as much as you, but I've done it before.

Now, after a show, you usually give notes.

Is there giving notes to the people after the show or you're

just like that's how that went?

It depends.

Usually, for our shows and the way that things go, no.

Because it's usually just a one off guest group who's coming to perform

for one day, and then they're done.

Oh, and then that's And then they might come back next year,

if they'd like to come back.

Groups are they in Disney World, once again, there might be some differences.

But they usually range from high school bands, to I remember

Lincoln Park was there one time.

Oh my gosh.

Stuff like that.

Is it that, you find that huge range all the time?

I feel like my department Usually handles more of the high school, the middle school

to college to professional range, but not as big as like Lincoln park, because

then that gets delegated to a different stage management department as a union.

So you still have some ways to work your way up the ladder for

you're like, Oh, guess what?

Hey, I'm so you're.

Your entry level stage manager at Disney.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Entry boss.

Yeah.

She's the entry boss.

She's the new fresh boss.

Yeah.

The fresh boss.

She's level one boss.

We're working our way up, but.

Is there another position that you, so you're working there for three years.

Yeah.

You really enjoy your job.

Is there somewhere that you want to be above that?

Or are you just I'm just riding out the wave.

I, cause right now you're at, huh?

Yeah, cause right now I do love that no day is the same.

Whereas I know that if I go into one of the roles that's actually

listed as stage manager, quote unquote, that is going to be Calling

the same show over and over again.

And yes, obviously, it's still live theater, things are gonna go crazy,

things are gonna be different, but it's gonna be a little bit more

monotonous, for lack of a better word.

I'm sure it's still eventful, I'm sure it's still awesome and fun because

you get to know the people and the performers that you're working with.

But I also really enjoy the aspects of my job where I

don't know what's coming at me.

I don't know who I'm gonna meet today.

I don't know what's gonna happen.

I don't have the opportunity to give notes.

But I have to problem solve in the moment.

Yeah, I think also it's the thing is it's a different type of anxiety because as a

stage manager while you're watching the show, the crazy part for me was whenever I

was doing it, you would watch these actors jump huge sections of lines and pages.

And you'd pray that everyone else catches on.

Fasten up, they would jump like 10 pages and then they would jump back 20 pages.

Yes, I was about to say.

You have to, and you have to like notate that.

And then at the end of the show, you have to tell them like, and then the thing is

they make it seem like nothing happened.

Because the audience has no idea.

Exactly.

And you're just like, how are you doing this?

See you, see, I lucked out.

Both of you had like serious.

You're you're currently a stage manager.

You had some stage manager experience.

When I didn't even, first of all, this was not stage managing, but when I did

stuff in the circus, it was just like, Hey, if it's wrong, someone falls.

Oh my gosh.

That's, if you do something wrong, somebody dies, right?

So there's no go back.

And but for you guys, it's like people have that fluidity

to go back and forth, right?

Potentially.

So is there actually, and they all love getting notes.

What is it like telling someone like, Hey, come here.

What's going on?

What is your game plan?

Let's say that.

Let's say that one of us messed up.

We Improv it.

So no one noticed and really ruin it, but it's off.

What is your first go to thing?

You like the positivity sandwich or no, that honestly it irks me, but.

I do, I respect people who do it well.

I have just seen too many people do it poorly where they're like, you're great.

Here's a really bad thing that you did.

You're still great.

And I'm not how that works.

That's absolutely not how that works.

This is what you did.

Don't do that again.

Okay.

I know the audience didn't notice, but I did and the people upstairs, if they,

if say they told me, if you do that again, that's it have some words for you.

Yeah.

No, my, my favorite thing to do is to genuinely just reflect it back

to them for a minute and say, Hey.

How do you feel about today?

I was just about to ask that.

Yeah.

I was just about to ask so professional way of doing it.

Oh my God.

How do you think that went?

Yeah, exactly.

And they were like what would you have changed?

That's one of my favorites because most of the time.

Hopefully.

They're aware of it, and so I feel like it'll cement a little bit better if

they have the opportunity to reflect for themselves instead of me walking up to

them and being like, hey, you screwed up.

Hey, guess what?

They'll block that out, most likely.

Because they won't be receptive to it.

And that's my psych theory coming into play.

So relaying it to So here on Film Center, we talk a lot

about the film movie industry.

Yeah, and interestingly enough I was just telling Nicholas this Sometime

before I think it was a few days ago that there are a lot of things that

overlap between theater and being on set yeah, right and something that's really

necessary is the Production manager the unit of the unit production manager.

So I was like, oh he's like a stage coordinator, right?

Yeah the production manager has to make sure all the extras are

there and they're there on time and then they have to coordinate.

Okay, make sure the stars are over here, but then they delegate

to PAs and things like that.

And one thing that I've always noticed that shows a really good pre PM is

they know how to delegate people.

To things that they are good at like first says, let's say Steve's an

introvert, but he's good with numbers.

I'm not going to then tell Steve, Hey, go hang out with all the extras and

rally them, you know what I'm saying?

But he might be great with, Oh, I need you to go, pick something

up or something like that.

Figure out logistics for this one thing.

How do you know who to delegate to?

I think it's exactly that, is making sure that you have built

that rapport with your crew.

Is there having relationships really important?

Yes.

Oh my gosh.

So important.

And I feel like it's something that gets overlooked.

Where, I don't know, at least in my experience, I've seen times where managers

or just anybody who's in charge of a team, regardless of title, will just

look at like concrete achievements.

And they won't look at the person as a whole where they won't

take the time to say, Hey, what do you think you're good at?

What makes you happy?

What do you like to do?

In this role specifically, not like outside of work.

We'll meet outside of work if you have time.

I want to be the bowling coordinator.

Don't you need that?

But.

But trying to find that marriage of what somebody's good at and what

they enjoy doing, and then trying to delegate them to something that's

either exactly that, or adjacent, or similar, or something that you think

is a thing that could help them grow.

Something that they're decent at, but show a lot of potential.

Decent but have potential.

Yeah.

But have potential.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Speaking of Figuring out and marrying both things together What was working

at Disney like during the strikes?

Oh, it Was that Can you talk about what that was like?

Yeah, it Was it any different?

It was interesting for me, because our department doesn't handle

any Union performers directly.

But we could see the aftermath the ripples.

Because I was driving by the studios, not work related, but, they're all

of the protests and the strikes were over there and just seeing how that

affected the events as a whole and slowly rippled back to our department.

How would they ripple?

Every once in a while, our department gets tapped to do like the holiday

special, the holiday spectacular the ABC one that But that's ABC.

Which is networked.

Exactly.

That got cancelled.

Yeah.

We got, we didn't end up doing that.

There were just a couple of like little tentative things that

got pulled, and just one by one.

They would disappear.

And so then what do you, so then what do you as a coordinator put on when

you have a show to put on and it's not the one that was, it's canceled.

So what do you do?

We just, we went with our other daily operations of just working

with our guest groups and trying to give them a good experience.

If they would ask about anything, what would you tell them?

I luckily I did not have to, I did not have to even.

mention it.

Do you think they were so caught up in it being Disneyland that Oh, absolutely.

Yeah.

'cause I, I had a lot of feelings about it and.

I, my, my views may not align with Disney's at the time.

Oh, no, we went outside of Disney.

Was it Disney?

We yeah, we were outside of Disney the first day.

This, we were the first day.

And then we also went outside of Paramount.

Yeah.

And we were.

All right, actually dj had to tell me like hey, man, what are you guys

you're saying we were harassing I was not there was no we it was you Who was

going to look up to the car's windows?

It was just like, and dj was like hey, man, what are you doing?

Like you're getting in front of the cars But to be fair the reason

me and I can't say I did nothing but nicholas was like the leader

He was the leader of the hypnosis.

And part of the reason is because we thought that they

weren't striking well enough.

However, they were all just chillin on the side, and I was

like, what are you guys doing?

Are we all actors and writers?

Like, how are we not being really creative about the way that we're harassing.

What would your character do right now?

How are we not being creative?

Gotta give them the method.

Act a little bit.

Exactly.

How are we not being creative about how we're harassing these people?

. Like I was walking and I had one writer.

My sign was gimme some money so I can feed my ducks.

Nice.

And there was a creative, there was like a illustrator or somebody like that.

And all I had was just the sentence.

So what he did is he drew a duck.

Oh my gosh.

On my, he was a really good duck actually.

Yeah, it was duck really?

It was a suit.

And then everyone was like, oh, you drew that duck.

And he was like, it's a great duck, right?

And they were like, yeah.

He was just like avoid the question.

Oh my God.

And so I would just, I, everybody was just chilling off to the side.

I was like, what are we doing?

Let's get in this.

. And I was just like.

Honk the horn, very funny.

And I think that as a stage manager or as a stage coordinator, you might also feel

the same way when the, I, we covered this previously on the show that I actually

was not going to strike and then that they don't really have a reason to.

And they haven't for a very long time.

But because of the events of this year, they're planning on it.

Ayanci also covers makeup.

Yeah.

Do you see that, if they do, not saying that they're guaranteed,

but, we learned after that episode.

Have you heard any grumblings of it?

There, there was a moment a couple months ago.

Mid WGA strike that we thought we were going to have to shut down our operation.

A shutdown at Disney's that's huge.

They don't shut down for anything.

There was a minute where our department was thinking What was preceding

the potential moment of shutdown?

Just all of those grumblings.

Everyone was talking about it.

Everyone was talking about, oh, it might be happening this next week.

And that's really short notice, especially if you have, a

whole week of events planned.

So that was a brief minute where we thought we were gonna have to.

Just cancel everything.

So I would imagine what you're saying is that it was a lot easier to handle

it at Disney because everybody was in the Disney haze of everything.

A little bit.

But since our techs are union, if they had, if they, they

decided not to be there Exactly.

Everything would've come to a screeching halt.

Oh yeah.

Were the texts acting different?

Is that why you were like, oh, it might happen?

Like but it was also just, subtle things posted on social media or like just

word of mouth of like little whispers that, hey, this might be happening.

Keep your be prepared.

Just keep your ears open, huh?

But yeah, but on the guest front, I think you're right that people.

Sometimes, at least the groups who come to us are so excited

to just either be performing or doing a workshop that they forget.

So they just leave it behind.

Exactly.

They're in Disneyland now.

The outside world no longer exists.

The land of the lotus eaters.

Yeah.

It's been really great having you on the the show.

Is there anywhere someone people can follow you?

We didn't even get to talk about her cosplay.

We talked about her shot the whole time.

That's okay.

Oh my goodness.

Thank you.

Is there anywhere people can follow you?

Yeah, I am on Instagram as TayMakesMagic, which is the most Disney cast member thing

I could ever name myself, but that is me.

Hey, it works if it works, right?

Yeah, I have more than Disney on there.

Aiming to add more.

So super fun.

Cool.

Fantastic.

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I'm Derek Johnson.

The second Nicholas Killian and I'm Taylor, and we'll see you next time.

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