Does your New Year's plan already feel like a struggle? Here's the truth bomb you need—motivation is fickle and commitment is your secret weapon. If you're tired of the same old "just have more willpower" advice, this conversation is about to change everything about how you approach changing your habits.

Jenn Trepeck keeps it refreshingly honest on Salad with a Side of Fries as she chats with Dr. Sherry Price about what actually works when you're trying to create sustainable habits. Dr. Price gets vulnerable about her struggle with overdrinking and why the "perfect plan" kept failing her. They dive into the gloriously messy middle of change, why progress over perfection isn't just a cute saying, and how giving yourself grace (yes, actual grace!) is the missing ingredient in your wellness journey. No BS, no toxic positivity—just real talk about behavioral changes that stick.

What You Will Learn in This Episode:

✅ Why motivation vs commitment makes all the difference—and how to shift from white-knuckling your goals to honoring your deeper desires for sustainable habits

✅ The truth about the messy middle of transformation and why the uncomfortable middle phase is actually where the real magic (and learning) happens in your behavioral change journey

✅ How to navigate the witching hour cravings and understand that your body needs time to reach a new homeostasis—plus why knowing cravings will eventually disappear is game-changing

✅ The power of radical honesty with yourself and finding the right support system that aligns with your actual goals, not someone else's version of perfection

The Salad With a Side of Fries podcast, hosted by Jenn Trepeck, explores real-life wellness and weight-loss topics, debunking myths, misinformation, and flawed science surrounding nutrition and the food industry. Let’s dive into wellness and weight loss for real life, including drinking, eating out, and skipping the grocery store.

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Dr. Price shares her personal story of overdrinking, the witching hour and why knowing better doesn't always mean doing better when it comes to breaking unhealthy habits

09:31 The critical difference between motivation vs commitment and why toxic independence keeps high achievers stuck in unhealthy patterns

13:37 Progress over perfection for lasting behavioral change and learning to give yourself grace through transformation

18:22 Why cravings are normal during habit change and how understanding your body's need for homeostasis makes the process less mythical and more manageable

23:31 The importance of radical honesty with yourself, defining your next phase, and navigating social situations without fear of judgment

27:30 Focusing on what you're gaining rather than what you're giving up—reframing desire to support sustainable habits and feeling good the next day

30:56 Practical strategies for handling the moments when your body signals cravings

33:20 Exploring different wellness focuses beyond alcohol—stress management, sleep, hydration, and movement as areas for habit change

37:05 The role of self-compassion in creating lasting change and why beating yourself up never leads to sustainable transformation

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

💎 Willpower is finite and eventually runs out—true transformation comes from building commitment to yourself, not relying on fleeting motivation or beating yourself up when things don't go perfectly according to plan

💎 The messy middle is where real growth happens during behavioral change—people who get from A to B in a straight line often haven't learned the skills needed to maintain their changes when life inevitably happens

💎 Your body needs time to adjust to new patterns and reach homeostasis, which means cravings and discomfort during habit change are not signs of failure but normal biological responses that will eventually pass

💎 Finding support from someone who shares your actual goals (not society's version of what your goals should be) accelerates your journey and helps you avoid the trap of toxic independence that keeps many high achievers stuck

ABOUT THE GUEST:

Sherry B. Price, PharmD, APh, MBA, BCPS, is an advanced pharmacist practitioner, certified life and weight loss coach, and host of the Health, Habits and Epic Living podcast. Through her transformative holistic programs, private coaching, and healing sessions, Dr. Price has empowered thousands of women to break unhealthy habits, shed stubborn belly fat, and reclaim their health – all while creating a life they truly love.

Dedicated to helping women take charge of their health and well-being, Dr. Price integrates lifestyle medicine, mindset shifts, and sustainable habit change to foster lasting health and vitality.

Before becoming a life coach, Dr. Price co-founded RxPrep, Inc., an exam preparation company that helped thousands of students each year become licensed pharmacists. Dr. Price spent over a decade working as a clinical pharmacist in critical care, cardiology, academia, and the pharmaceutical industry. She graduated from the Philadelphia College of Pharmacy and Science and completed residency programs at Duke University and Barnes-Jewish Medical Center. A Pennsylvania native, Dr. Price now lives in beautiful San Diego with her amazing husband and daughter.

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07:25 “It started to bother me more and more, especially the next day when you're missing your workouts, or you're not getting up on time, or you're needing that extra cup of coffee or two. I know better, but why am I not doing better?” — Dr. Sherry Price

18:40 "Nobody told me it takes time for your body to reach this new homeostasis. So the cravings are normal, natural, and should be there. I'm thinking they shouldn't be here. But it wasn't until somebody said, no, no, they're supposed to be there." — Dr. Sherry Price

21:36 "We assume that everybody has the same goal as us and then we're following their recommendations, but actually they're training for a marathon and I have no desire to run a marathon." - Jenn Trepeck

24:43 “That next phase might be a focus on sleep, hydration, stress or movement, the alcohol, whatever it is. I love the idea of being selective about who we share it with, because there may be moments when we want to do less sharing.” — Jenn Trepeck

30:57 “Thinking about nutrition or that food piece, if we could say more veggies, less processed food, more protein.” — Jenn Trepeck

38:42 “The piece I'm coming away with is gentleness to our experience and the things that we want to do and most desire for 2026, we can do them and not in a way that requires a hundred percent or zero.” — Jenn Trepeck

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[00:00:37] We're here to clear up the myth, misinformation, bad science, and marketing to teach you how to eat and how to cheat. Are you ready? I'm having salad with a side of fries. Hey friend. Welcome back to Salad with a side of fries. I'm Jenn Trepeck, your host and health coach here with you every week for wellness without the weirdness, and it's the third week of January.

[00:01:22] Is going to look like in 2026, and specifically we wanna focus on the plan that's going to carry us through this whole year and beyond. And so no matter which bucket you fall into, I think you're gonna love this conversation. So let me introduce you to our featured guest. She has her pharm d Advanced Practice Pharmacist, MBA Board certified pharmacotherapy specialist, and is an advanced pharmacist practitioner, certified life and weight loss coach and host of the Health Habits and Epic Living Podcast.

[00:02:13] She integrates lifestyle medicine, mindset shifts and sustainable habit change to foster lasting health and vitality. Sound familiar? Right. Prior to becoming a life coach, she co-founded RX Prep Inc. And exam preparation company that helped thousands of students each year become licensed pharmacists. She spent over a decade working as a clinical pharmacist in critical care, cardiology, academia.

[00:02:53] Please help me welcome Dr. Sherry Price. Woo hoo. So excited to be here, Jen. Likewise, [00:03:00] welcome. And I feel like we should let everybody know this is certainly not our first chat, not even our second. So I've been a guest on Health Habits and Epic Living. We had a couple fantastic conversations over there. So most recently we talked about wellness made simple.

[00:03:26] Dr. Sherry Price: Thank you. And it was so fun to interview you on my podcast and read your book. It's amazing. Oh, thank you.

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[00:05:11] Remember, you're going to a salad with a side of fries.com/membership. This supports not only your health, but this show so we can keep doing this with you every week. Okay. Dr. Sherry, you're a pharmacist. Yes. You have extensive background in all of the things and in coaching, and you've helped so many people.

[00:05:46] Dr. Sherry Price: Yes. Yeah. Personal story, just being around the healthcare environment and practicing as hospital-based pharmacist for a number of years, and just seeing how our habits accumulate over time [00:06:00] and can land us in unhealthy places such as an ICU.

[00:06:26] Generally, not maybe a few times, like maybe I went a little too much and should have called the Uber, but didn't. But really it was just the natural end of my day. Progression, you know, of like transitioning from work life to home life and it's fine. Maybe I thought with a glass, but that glass became two, became three on the weekends.

[00:07:06] And seeing people, you know, in my past career as an ICU pharmacist, like I know where this can lead. I know the liver damage. I know the brain damage. I know it doesn't make me feel good as a person. I'm not mothering. I'm not proud of that, the way I'm showing up as a role model for my child. So for a while there it didn't bother me and then all of a sudden it started to bother me and it really started to bother me more and more, like especially the next day when you're like missing your workouts or you're not getting up on time, or you're needing that extra cup of coffee or two, it's like, I know better, but why aren't I doing better?

[00:08:00] Yeah. And really like that's a bit of a different process. So it's not just the direct opposite. Of instituting a habit. 'cause oftentimes that doesn't work. So it was really through my journey that I'm like, wow, if I am like this, and I honestly didn't feel like I wanted to quit, I didn't feel like I was severe enough for something like a 12 step program.

[00:08:39] Like that was a lot on the line for my reputation, my career, the degrees I worked so hard for, and I started helping people in the medical profession because I felt like a lot of them are gonna be trapped like me. We can't really talk about it elsewhere. There's too much on the line. Our reputation, our our degrees.

[00:09:03] Jenn Trepeck: Yeah. There's a couple things that you shared in there that I think resonate with all of us, especially people who tune into podcasts like yours and mine. And one of the things that you said is, I know better.

[00:09:40] Yes. So let's talk about that because I think somebody might be listening and sort of riding high and somebody else might be riding the struggle bus. And so either way, what do you really want people to know or do differently because motivation is so fickle.

[00:10:03] I don't know the books, the people we talk to, I'm not sure who puts it in our head to think that motivation is the answer. Right? I think it's great to use motivation when it shows up, but motivation isn't the answer. It's more like commitment. Like you might not be motivated to go to work, but you're committed.

[00:10:39] We go to the opposite, oh, I just have to use willpower. I just have to knock myself down. I just have to knock myself over the head. I just have to beat myself with this bat a couple of times. And then we go into like self-flagellation or, so we tend to go in the opposite direction. And I don't think that's where it's helpful.

[00:11:14] That's why I reached out to somebody who I'm like, okay. I reached out to somebody who had an overdrinking problem and solved it, and she was my same gender and that was important to me. So she had like the criteria I was looking for, and I'm like, okay, I need somebody like that to show me the way when I run out of motivation, when I want to rely on willpower, when I can't find.

[00:11:54] But I wasn't, I was stuck for years trying to figure it out. And so it's like, okay, humble myself. Eat [00:12:00] some humble pie, right? Find out whose life I want to emulate and who's done this before, and have them help me if they're willing. And that to me was the magic sauce. And I also loved that my coach was about my same goal.

[00:12:32] I could, but why didn't it stick? That was the problem, so I wanted it to stick and so I needed to learn from somebody who's been there and was supportive of my end goal, which wasn't to cut it out. It was just to drink less, and that's why I created the Drink Less lifestyle is to help others drink less and harm reduction.

[00:13:12] Jenn Trepeck: Same. I mean, there's so many similarities. My thing was the food versus the alcohol, and it was working with a coach and getting some information of like, what's the missing piece? Yes. 'cause I feel like I know a lot, and yet here I am. The other thing that you're talking about in this idea of going from however many packs a day to none or however many drinks to none.

[00:14:05] Or you know, trying to figure out what is this gonna look like? So that 2026 is different. When you say never a perfect time, always a great time. What does that mean to you?

[00:14:45] And so there's that element of perfectionism, like it needs to go the way I have it planned. And so there's. A part of you that's like, okay, if it's not gonna go perfectly right, if it's not the perfect plan, if it's not the perfect time, then there's the great plan [00:15:00] or the great time, right? Like, stop shooting for perfectionism.

[00:15:23] We're the hardest on ourselves than anybody, especially if you're a high achieving woman. You know, man too. Right. High achieving people. I think we're so high achieving, 'cause many reasons. We're driven. We've got a lot of great qualities of a lot of great talents, a lot of great ideas, but it could be where we don't have enough grace and mercy for ourselves.

[00:15:48] Jenn Trepeck: progress. And it's interesting 'cause as you're saying this, I'm thinking about how. We can sit here and still be frustrated, you know? Yes. Or still [00:16:00] think about this. So how do we reconcile that? Like how do we say, okay, intellectually, I understand that progress is there.

[00:16:30] Dr. Sherry Price: Yes, yes. I think there's two things in that you become motivated by how you feel or you become driven by how you feel, right? So I didn't wanna use the word motivated, but I did. So I changed it to driven. So like if you're, let's just say outta money, you're really driven to find work. And then sometimes the pain needs to get bigger, or the frustration needs to get bigger, or the disappointment needs to get bigger for you to actually now consider more [00:17:00] possibilities, more jobs, different jobs.

[00:17:22] But as a pharmacist, I'll tell you the reason why, like, you know, pain meds are in the top 10 is because you do something with your pain. If you have hypertension, you don't feel it. You're not going to the doctor to look to cure blood pressure problems if you don't feel it, but you look to the doctor if you have heartburn or any kind of pain, you're like, yes, I need to change this.

[00:18:02] I don't always find it a negative emotion now because I've changed my relationship to my feelings. I just find it now more information. But really when you get in that space is like, oh, your brain will automatically want to tell and crap all over you, and you will only want to see where you haven't been rather than, like you said, all the little things.

[00:18:37] Now your body, just give it some time to adjust. Like nobody told me, it takes time for your body to reach this new homeostasis. So the cravings are normal, natural, and should be there. I'm thinking they shouldn't be here, but it wasn't until somebody said, no, no, they're supposed to be there. Your body's just needing time to hit a new homeostasis and then they go away and having somebody tell me [00:19:00] they're gonna go away, that felt magical.

[00:19:15] Jenn Trepeck: I remember saying to somebody over time, the craving tilt disappeared. And she just looked at me and she goes, you're wrong. And I was like, yeah, okay.

[00:19:36] Yeah, it is true. And that's also to give yourself that, I call it the messy middle. When you get started, everything feels romanticized beautiful. You've got this glimmering perfectionistic plan and how it's gonna go. You think you're gonna be motivated every day, or driven every day to do it. You're totally committed and you really don't think in a week or a month you're gonna feel differently, but.

[00:20:14] I think people just wanna, that's where we

[00:20:17] Dr. Sherry Price: Yeah. People would just wanna white knuckle it, put blinders on and just start running. Exactly. Can't be

[00:20:32] That person hasn't learned. The things that allow us to keep going when life shows up.

[00:20:53] Cut out his tongue, like, okay, I need a different response here. And ha wait, wait. My brain doesn't know how to respond [00:21:00] to the, no. So yeah, I'm over exaggerating slightly, but just to make a point that you just have to relearn certain behaviors and certain patterns and it just takes a bit of time and it just feels a bit wonky in the middle.

[00:21:36] Like yes. Yeah. So I wanna go through thinking through a handful. Of concepts or things that people might focus on this year, and then take this idea of the messy middle. What can we, for each of those help people maybe do more of or less of in each of those categories and so people can find their focus in this episode?

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[00:23:14] Okay, Dr. Sherry, so like high level, a few things people might want to focus on or think about. Maybe we just list them and then go into each one. What are some of the top ones that come to you? The alcohol, I guess, from your story. For sure.

[00:23:37] Right? For me, saying zero drinks at the time I was looking to cut back just didn't even seem like fun, like I'd rather just die an alcoholic, or if that's where my life is headed, you know? But really just getting honest with yourself, radical honesty with yourself, and I think that's really helpful when you share it with somebody.

[00:24:14] Maybe you've tried achieving it on your own and you haven't. So there could be some fear around that. There could be mixed emotions around it makes you happy, but makes you like scared 'cause you're now pushing yourself or stretching yourself. But I think it's really important to define for you what the next phase looks like.

[00:24:41] Jenn Trepeck: I love that. And again, like that next phase might be a focus on sleep. Yeah. And might be a focus on hydration stress.

[00:25:08] Dr. Sherry Price: Yeah. Right. And people get really, I mean, I'm sure it's around food, but I have just a lot of experience of shame or like I'm gonna disappoint people if I cut back on drinking.

[00:25:43] You know, there's just all these thought processes that come up in your mind and I just think it's so helpful to talk through them with somebody. It's not like role playing. I'm not saying that. I think when people hear, talk through something like that, they think, oh, we're gonna say, how are you gonna explain this and you say this, [00:26:00] and no, it's not that.

[00:26:15] Jenn Trepeck: thousand

[00:26:25] You shouldn't do that. You're not gonna be good at that. Right? You know, like, you, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Right? So you wanna get the right partner, right? Sounding board, right therapist, coach, somebody who can really allow you to explore that without judgment,

[00:26:44] Let's say somebody says, I'm doing dry January. I just had a client message me. I'm doing dry January. Well, what about after? Or maybe somebody's like, I'm not doing dry January. That sounds miserable and would not work for my life, or whatever. What could [00:27:00] we do more of and do less of to move in the direction of maybe less drinking, if that's the goal?

[00:27:30] I'm not saying, you know, remember that in the moment, like people take this conversation and then their brains are off to the races, right? But just slow down. Stay with me because if your body is telling you. It's too much. There's a reason your body is accurately assessing the situation and it's wanting a change for a reason.

[00:28:08] Like, I would really like to do my nightly routine. So there's gonna be aspects that you're adding in. When you're making these changes, and I think a lot of people look at what they're giving up rather than looking at all the things that their body or their mind is desiring and just allow it to bathe in that.

[00:28:44] I know a lot of women, I have to kind of get them to meet their feelings again 'cause they've numbed from them for so long. And I'm sure this is with food, right? Oh yeah. You just numb out how you feel. And so these sad feelings or disappointment feelings can feel so big. They [00:29:00] haven't felt them in years.

[00:29:13] Jenn Trepeck: I also think it can feel lonely. Mm-hmm. When we're making that choice. And so this actually reminds me of our episode with Sarah Raggy, where we talked about how she started networking with a workout class instead of a happy hour.

[00:29:37] Dr. Sherry Price: I'll do dates on Zoom if it's too cold outside, although it doesn't really happen here much where I'm at. But hikes are big. Morning walks are big walks with our dogs, a workout class, coffee, tea, just sitting outside.

[00:30:07] And I see stroller strides like so many different ways. No matter what age group you are in, that iwi can be a little more active and a little more creative and getting together. I was just talking to somebody actually today, remind me. She's like, oh, I'm going to my Bunko group tonight. But we've been meeting for 17 years and we've never played a game of Bunco, so they call it the Bunko Group without the Bunko, but they just go and support each other and they're like, we're just lifelong friends.

[00:30:39] Jenn Trepeck: God. By the way, my only reference of Bunko is Real Housewives of Orange County. And so I can't, anybody who knows. Anyway, so the other thing you started to mention in there is how some of those same feelings can show up with the food part.

[00:31:08] Dr. Sherry Price: Mm-hmm.

[00:31:17] Dr. Sherry Price: Mm. Yeah. Yes. Trying to build up to three meals, no snacking.

[00:31:23] Jenn Trepeck: You know, provided that those are sufficient meals and the timing of our day makes sense for, you know, like sometimes the snack is needed. But the way we're talking about these things really doubles down on what you were saying before of progress over perfection. Never a perfect time, always a great time.

[00:31:49] Dr. Sherry Price: Yes. I'm even thinking like more fasting, less feasting, you know? I mean, not to say you can't feast, but getting a good amount of time that your body is detoxing and in that rest state, in [00:32:00] that parasympathetic state, I think a lot of us are just go, go, go, go, go.

[00:32:30] And your mind gets to declutter in that space that when you do come back to a project or whatever you're working on, you're just like barreling through. Yes,

[00:32:51] Yeah. I also think less sensory overload is connected to that less autopilot.

[00:33:15] Of course, we have the fancy cortisol, but that's even time consuming to get, and it's only a snapshot of that day if you do it right, you know, the four or five measurements throughout the day, so that gives you a snapshot for that day or that week, or what you're. Time period is, but it's one that's like harder to measure.

[00:34:02] Bad, and I think it's because their stress is starting to lower, but they're not down at the, I'm not stress level to really feel what that can feel like. Because when you get there, I tell you, I've been there like, just go to a vacation, you've taken. For about a little bit more than seven days if you've ever had that, because by week two you're like, oh, this is a different level of decompression, right?

[00:34:50] I really think our systems are too wired and then we need the coffee and the go-Go juice and all of that, and the Red Bull and Celsius and all these, whatever these. [00:35:00] Elixirs that we're now sucking down by the millions and we're not even understanding all the natural flavors in them. I mean, that's a bit scary.

[00:35:25] I otherwise gotta keep going, gotta keep going. So there are ways you can do it and plan it throughout your day that it doesn't have to take huge chunks. And honestly, you know, like exercise snacks, we might find that it's gonna be like just like exercise snacks. Exercise snacks are these small chunks where you're doing exercise throughout the day.

[00:36:12] Jenn Trepeck: thousand percent.

[00:36:39] Again, it feels unproductive. It feels totally different. Like this is how I function. Is this identity around that stress level?

[00:37:04] For sure. So if we

[00:37:13] Dr. Sherry Price: For me, I'll tell you what's been helpful is we wear different roles and looking at those as different hats, different roles, and not necessarily saying it's my full identity. So I'm a mom, I'm a pharmacist, right?

[00:37:49] Yes, I get to disconnect as a mom. I owe that to myself to have sanctity and peace and not be like on all the time. Right. Just like at your job, you [00:38:00] get to step back and say, okay, I don't have to do that role right now and just sit with the I am. I am human. I am in human need of rest, and sometimes that's my identity.

[00:38:32] Yeah.

[00:39:02] Dr. Sherry Price: Yes, yes. And a lot of times we'll fill up that to-do list thinking. When I do all these things, then I will feel X. And what a lot of people find out is they do all those things and they still feel the same, and that is heartbreaking. That's when you feel like, oh my gosh, I bought into this lie that when I do all this I will have magical health and la la la and feel amazing.

[00:39:40] Jenn Trepeck: Alright, it's time for a rapid fire off topic questions. Are you ready? I'm ready. Alright. What's the best thing you've done for your health this week?

[00:39:56] Dr. Sherry Price: Oh. The best thing I did for my help this week, I rocked it [00:40:00] outta the park with my sleep. Nice. So good. I'm such a great sleeper right now.

[00:40:11] Jenn Trepeck: It's

[00:40:12] Jenn Trepeck: it so was. Yeah. If you weren't a pharmacist and coach, what would you do?

[00:40:24] So I think I'd be a hormone doctor. Yeah.

[00:40:34] Dr. Sherry Price: Okay. I have to say the one I'm listening to on Audible right now, because it's top of mind, it's called Radical Wholeness, finding your Peace and Space within Yourself.

[00:40:47] Jenn Trepeck: list. If you could cure one ailment, disease or sickness, what would it be?

[00:41:03] They're joyful. Right. It's the perfectionism thing is really gotta go. For sure.

[00:41:11] Dr. Sherry Price: I know this sounds corny, but I'll say it anyway. I wanna get better at this. And I think that's why I wanna love people. I want people to feel my love when I'm with them. Ooh, that's a good one.

[00:41:22] Jenn Trepeck: Yeah. Now it makes this next question feel silly, but what's your biggest pet peeve?

[00:41:45] Jenn Trepeck: Yes. Alright. Last one.

[00:41:51] Dr. Sherry Price: Well, I think we're doing more of the wearables. I think we might have some wearables with AI bots that talk back to us even more than the watch that says you should [00:42:00] be standing now. Right. I think there's gonna be more wrist coaches and wearables telling us what to do, and I'm not sure as a species how we're gonna like that.

[00:42:12] Dr. Sherry Price: yeah. Yes. You could tell me a little bit what to do, but when you take it to the next level, I'm gonna stop purchasing you. Right. Well, and turn off

[00:42:32] Dr. Sherry Price: Awesome. Well, it's been a pleasure to spend time with you, Jen. Just I hope you feel my love. That's my superpower. I do. Thank you. Sense it over the screen today. Everything I do is on epic u.com, so that's my website, ep ic y u.com. I just love helping people feel more amazing in their bodies. I do have a podcast called Health Habits and Epic Living, which you've been a two time guest on, and hopefully three in the future.

[00:43:05] Jenn Trepeck: everything below to keep it easy for everybody. But thank you, thank you for being here. I just, I truly appreciate your approach and your energy and yes, we feel your love, so thank you.

[00:43:25] Dr. Sherry Price: No,

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