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What's the Best Way to Design Infinite Banking Policies? | 40/60 Vs 80/20
Episode 84621st January 2026 • BetterWealth with Caleb Guilliams • BetterWealth Media
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What’s the best way to design an infinite banking policy? In this video, Brent Kesler, founder of The Money Multiplier, joins Caleb Guilliams to break down whole life insurance designs for infinite banking, specifically comparing 40/60 vs 80/20 policy structures and Nelson Nash's original intentions. The discussion also includes a debate on term riders, when they help, when they hurt, and how they affect infinite banking strategies over time.

Watch the First Interview with Brent where he explains how he paid off $1M in debt in 2 years - https://youtu.be/cHTmpSU-nzQ

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00:00 Introduction

01:50 Infinite Banking and Debt Payoff Strategy

02:07 Changes to Infinite Banking

03:30 The "Nelson Plan" (40/60)

04:12 Policy Design Philosophy: Base, PUA, and Term Riders

05:01 Long-Term Efficiency and Base Premium

05:57 MEC Limit and Term Riders

06:59 Base, PUA, and Term Riders Definitions

12:00 Higher Base vs. More PUA

18:25 Flexibility in PUA Riders

19:19 Starting Additional Policies

20:40 Rule of Maximizing Current Policies

23:07 Adjusting Premiums on Multiple Policies

27:19 Minimum Premium and Income Ratio

28:34 The "10 Times Your Age" Rule

29:27 Tax Liability

35:46 Death Benefit, Rate of Return, and Financial Mindset

38:03 Internal Rate of Return (3.5% to 5%)

39:45 Actual Rate of Return vs. Average Rate of Return

42:28 The Value of Convertible Term Insurance

43:36 Human Life Value vs. Starting Small Whole Life Policy

47:14 Life Insurance as the Only Guaranteed Payout Insurance

48:53 Buying Cars and Using Other People's Money

49:18 Separating Policy Growth

51:54 Using Bank's Money for Investments

54:34 Danger of Using Banks if Undisciplined

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