Spotify has long faced criticism while buying its way into having a
Speaker:larger slice of the podcasting pie.
Speaker:At all levels.
Speaker:But that criticism is reaching a crescendo and podcasters are taking action.
Speaker:Should you?
Speaker:Hello, and welcome to another Podcast Pontifications with me, Evo Terra.
Speaker:So I suppose I cannot not talk about the Spotify
Speaker:thing, can I?
Speaker:This isn't
Speaker:a news show, nor is it an opinion show.
Speaker:However, I'm never afraid to display my own opinions to you.
Speaker:But this is a perspective show, and, not surprisingly, I do have a perspective on
Speaker:the Spotify-Neil Young-Joe Rogan spat.
Speaker:A few of them, actually.
Speaker:First off, if you have no idea of the spat of which I speak, bravo for
Speaker:you for avoiding all the crazy news.
Speaker:Nothing I'm about to say will make much sense at all without
Speaker:a primer on what's going on.
Speaker:It's just too much for me to recap.
Speaker:Luckily, today, Podnews has an excellent primer posted just this morning.
Speaker:I will put a link to that in the episode details.
Speaker:Before I get into this perspective shifting, I need
Speaker:to make a qualifying statement.
Speaker:I firmly believe your decision is your decision.
Speaker:As with any Podcast Pontifications episode, I'm not here to tell
Speaker:you what to think, only here to give you what to think about.
Speaker:Are you with me?
Speaker:All right, groovy.
Speaker:Now, if you find yourself in the "I'm A Podcaster And I'm Very Angry
Speaker:About Spotify" camp, consider the impact your actions, whatever you're
Speaker:going to do, will have on Spotify.
Speaker:I get it, you're angry.
Speaker:Spotify is not only profiting off of what Rogan is saying, but it's
Speaker:actually paying him to say it.
Speaker:There's not a lot of gray area there, I understand.
Speaker:But will removing your show from Spotify's directory impact Spotify financially?
Speaker:Will they know what's going to happen?
Speaker:Will they know that you've left?
Speaker:If you currently pay a Spotify-owned company to host your media files, remember
Speaker:they own more than Anchor, switching hosts will have a financial impact.
Speaker:Albeit perhaps a small one, depending on the size of your show.
Speaker:If you're using Spotify's monetization options, like providing premium
Speaker:content to people or perhaps using their ad server, then changing
Speaker:services will make a financial impact.
Speaker:But can you do that?
Speaker:Are you contractually locked in?
Speaker:If you're part of a Spotify-exclusive show, well, now you have a few
Speaker:more options, but also headaches of all these levers you can pull.
Speaker:Once you've examined all of the relevant questions for you, I want
Speaker:you to consider the impact your actions will have on your listeners.
Speaker:Pulling a show from Spotify means that anyone currently or in the
Speaker:future will no longer be able to listen to your show on what might
Speaker:be their preferred listening app.
Speaker:Perhaps you can mitigate that with a heartfelt plea to your listeners
Speaker:to make the switch to a different listening app, but you're not
Speaker:in control of that situation.
Speaker:They're going to make their own decisions, just like you make your own decision.
Speaker:And it's very likely that some of them, or maybe many of them, will not have
Speaker:the same strength of your conviction.
Speaker:Now, what if you're a podcaster who's not all that mad about this?
Speaker:Or maybe you're a podcaster who's even pro-Spotify?
Speaker:I have some perspectives for you as well.
Speaker:Remember earlier when I said that I would not tell you what to think?
Speaker:I am true to my word about that.
Speaker:Your decision is your decision.
Speaker:F.
Speaker:Scott Fitzgerald famously wrote, "The test of a first-rate intelligence
Speaker:is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and
Speaker:still retain the ability to function."
Speaker:That makes sense.
Speaker:We're going to have to do that some of the times.
Speaker:Also, consider this situation right now is very fluid.
Speaker:It's evolving.
Speaker:So I'm reticent to predict any sort of outcome where this is going to land.
Speaker:There's too many things in flux right now.
Speaker:And it's not just podcasters and musicians having a go at this right now.
Speaker:It's investors, it's paying subscribers, it's the competition.
Speaker:It's
Speaker:the monetizable audience
Speaker:that pays
Speaker:for the ad-supported—not free—services
Speaker:you might be using.
Speaker:Nothing lasts forever.
Speaker:You should probably, at the very least, prepare for that.
Speaker:What happens to your podcast if, in fact, Spotify
Speaker:blinks?
Speaker:The answer
Speaker:is probably nothing.
Speaker:Or, it could signal the beginning
Speaker:of Spotify's potential
Speaker:exit from podcasting.
Speaker:Again, I'm not making a prediction about that.
Speaker:I'm not even saying it's a likely outcome.
Speaker:It's a potential outcome.
Speaker:One that you, like all of us, should at least be aware of.
Speaker:So, do
Speaker:what you're going to do.
Speaker:My only
Speaker:request is that you do so with eyes wide open.
Speaker:Choose wisely.
Speaker:And with that, I shall be back tomorrow with yet another Podcast Pontifications.
Speaker:Cheers!
Speaker:Podcast Pontifications is written and narrated by Evo Terra.
Speaker:He's on a mission to make podcasting better.
Speaker:Links to everything mentioned in today's episode are in the notes
Speaker:section of your podcast listening app.
Speaker:A written-to-be-read article based on today's episode is available at
Speaker:podcastpontifications.com where you'll also find a video version and a corrected
Speaker:transcript, both created by Allie Press.
Speaker:Podcast Pontifications is a production of Simpler Media.