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3-0.
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:Baku, Nusa, Rietz, a clean sheet, a packed
Red Bull Arena, and Martin Dementulis'
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:first league game in charge ends with
a win that looks on paper comfortable.
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:But here's the thing, Terrace.
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:3-0 doesn't tell you the half of it.
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:Because the expected goals
on the night were 3.95
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:to 0.97.
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:Six big chances to two.
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:25 shots to 15.
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:And the only reason this wasn't five
or six or seven was a goalkeeper in the
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:Gladbach net having the game of his life.
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:This wasn't a 3-0.
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:This was a mauling that
happened to finish 3-0.
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:Welcome back to RBL Talk, Tactics,
Terrace, Truth, the independent
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:community-powered home of RB Leipzig,
coming to you from Adelaide, wherever you
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:are in the world, and however deep into
the early hours it is when this one drops.
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:I'm Justin Crozer, and
this is episode 118.
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:Big one today.
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:We're breaking down the Bundesliga
Matchday 1 opener, Leipzig three,
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:Borussia Mönchengladbach zero, and I
mean properly breaking it down, because
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:the numbers under this result tell
a story the skyline only hints at.
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:We've got the return of a familiar
face in the red and white shirt.
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:We've got a player watch result
to settle from the last episode.
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:And later on, we'll be
turning it over to you.
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:The digital terrace has been
talking, and we've got a cracking
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:submission, plus a shout-out to get to.
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:Then we look ahead, Matchday 2, and
a trip that's got some history to it.
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:No sponsors, no club line to tow, no
gatekeepers, just the football, the
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:numbers, and pure Leipzig passion.
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:If that's your thing,
you're in the right place.
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:Let's do it.
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:Right, match day one, Saturday
afternoon in Leipzig,:
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:half 3 CEST, which for us back home was
:
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:sensible late-night watch for once.
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:Sven Jablonski, the referee,
Demichelis lines up in a 4-3-3,
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:Gladbach come with a 4-2-3-1, and
a lone striker in Tim Kleindienst.
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:And from the whi- first whistle,
Leipzig go for the throat.
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:Now I wanna start with the stat
that frames the entire game, because
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:it's the one that surprised me.
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:Leipzig had less of the ball,
47% possession, fewer passes,
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:4-2-7 to Gladbach's 4-7-4.
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:They even lost the tackle count, 13 to 19.
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:So this was not death by possession.
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:This wasn't Leipzig strangling
the game with the ball.
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:This was sharp, direct, vertical football,
win it, move it forward, hurt you.
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:45 final third entries, 19 shots
from inside the box, and if you
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:looked at the attack map, the play
is pouring straight through the
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:middle and that left central channel.
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:Not hopeful crosses from wide, but Leipzig
going through Gladbach again and again.
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:And when you look at where the
shots came from, picture the penalty
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:area, and picture a cluster of
shots packed right in front of goal.
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:Six-yard line, penalty spot, dead
central, that's the money zone.
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:That's why the expected goals hit 3.95.
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:Leipzig weren't just shooting
a lot, they were shooting
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:from the spots you score from.
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:Expected goals on target, 3.41.
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:That's a hatful of guilt-edged looks.
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:Let's talk about the men who took them.
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:The opener twenty-five minutes in,
Rydel Baku, right back, gets on
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:the end of it, left foot tucks it
away, and Baku's whole game is the
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:Demi Çelik's fullback blueprint.
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:An eight point two rating, seven
defensive contributions, and get
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:this, seven ground duels contested.
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:Seven ground duels won, a hundred
percent, plus the goal before
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:he made way just after the hour.
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:That's a wing back doing both
jobs and doing them flawlessly.
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:Second goal just after the break,
forty-nine minutes, Antonio Nusa,
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:eight point three on the r- on the
night and relentless down that left.
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:Forty-six touches, twenty-one carries,
eight of them progressive, a big
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:chance created on top of his goal.
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:Direct, fearless, took that moment.
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:And the third sixty m- six minutes, Rocco
Reitz, right foot, assisted and the pick
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:of the midfield performances, an eight
flat rating, three key passes, Leipzig's
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:chief creator in the middle before he
came off to a well-earned breather.
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:But if I'm handing out the man of
the match armband, and Sofascore
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:did, it goes to someone who didn't
score and didn't get an assist.
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:Brajan Gruda, eight point
eight, top score on the pitch.
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:And I know what you're thinking.
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:No goal, no assist.
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:How?
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:Because the underlying numbers are absurd.
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:Zero point seven nine expected
assists, the single biggest creative
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:number of any player in this game.
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:Thirteen ground duels, eight dribbles,
two hundred and forty-three meters
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:carried, two key passes, seven recoveries.
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:His heat map is a wall of red
down the right and into the box.
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:Gruda was the engine.
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:He manufactured the big chances even when
his teammates didn't always bury them.
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:That's a dominant performance
the scoreline never records,
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:and exactly the kind of thing
we're here to shine a light on.
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:Quick word on the other end of
the honesty scale, because we
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:don't do rose-tinted glasses here.
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:Tidy Ngome's picked up two assists,
two, and finished on a six point five.
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:And when a two-assist man
rates that low, the numbers are
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:trying to tell you something.
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:Six unsuccessful touches.
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:Possession lost nine times.
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:His total progression was minus
16 meters, meaning on balance,
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:he carried Leipzig backwards.
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:He got hooked on the hour for the
returning man, so yes, end product
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:masked a generally scratchy afternoon.
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:The assists are real.
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:The performance around it wasn't.
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:And that returning man, Christopher
Nkunku, on for Gomes just after the hour.
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:Straight back into it
in the red and white.
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:An assist, a big chance created.
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:Seven from seven passing across his cameo.
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:We'll come back to Chris in a minute
because the terrace has some thoughts
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:Now the defense, because this was a
clean sheet and it serves its due.
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:Castillo Lecaba, 8.1,
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:was a monster.
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:16 defenses, contributions, 11
clearances, 3 interceptions, and
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:then he'd win it and drive out.
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:196 meters carried and 89% passing.
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:Willie Orban won 6 of his 8 aerials
and, believe it or not, rattled the
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:woodwork from a corner that came
that close to center half's dream.
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:David Realm was the creative
fullback, a team high, .69
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:expected assists off the
left with 9 crosses swung in.
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:And in behind them,
Martin Vandervoort, 8.1,
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:calm as you like, 100%
passing in his own half.
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:And here's a lovely wrinkle.
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:Vandervoort only made 4 saves.
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:The Gladbach keeper made 8.
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:But Martin's goal prevented
number, plus 0.68,
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:was actually higher than
his opponent's numbers.
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:Meaning on the fewer chances
he faced, he saved more than
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:the average keeper would have.
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:The standout, a full stretch stop from a
Frank Honorat corner in the 92nd minute to
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:keep the clean sheet right to the death.
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:One keeper made a mountain of saves.
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:The other made the ones that mattered.
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:Both earned their clean sheet story.
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:One just did it in a black shirt.
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:Because I have to say it, Moritz Nicholas
in the Gladbach goal was sensational.
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:8.7,
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:8 saves, 5 from the inside the box,
2 of them flagged as big saves.
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:That man is the sole reason this
finished 3-0 and not a cricket score.
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:Credit where it's due, he was
outstanding and he was busy because
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:his backline had no answers.
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:Not one Gladbach defender broke 6.3.
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:The fullback with the toughest job
up against that Gruda Baku right
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:side limped off injured on 76.
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:That's what conceding 6 big chances
looks like at the individual level.
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:Last time out, I set you a player
watch duel for this game, Nicholas
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:Seiwald versus Hugo Böhlen.
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:The Leipzig anchor against
the Gladbach forward.
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:So who won it?
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:And I love this because
the answer is, it's a tie.
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:Generally, they both finished on six point
nine, the exact same rating, but they
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:earned it in completely opposite ways.
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:Seiwald's six point nine
was the invisible one.
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:No shots, no key passes.
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:That's not his job.
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:His job was to sit in front
of the back four and hoover up
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:seven defensive contributions,
three tackles, two interceptions,
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:two clearances, six recoveries.
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:He was the metronome that led the ball
players around him go and hurt Gladbach.
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:You barely noticed him, and that's
the highest compliment you can
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:play as a holding midfielder.
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:Böhlen's six point nine
was the exact opposite.
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:He was the one man in a Gladbach shirt
who actually looked like scoring.
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:Four shots, zero point
three expected goals.
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:He hit the woodwork, he forced a
save, he missed a big chance, and he
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:won six of his seven ground duels.
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:On a day his side got battered,
Böhlen was their brightest spark.
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:Same number.
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:Two totally different jobs.
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:One quietly ran the engine room, the
other was the only genuine threat on
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:his team, and they both did exactly
what their side needed from them.
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:So I'm calling the duel a draw,
and I've got a feeling some
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:of you called it the same way.
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:Hold that thought.
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:So match day one, a statement.
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:Three-nil on the board, a mauling
underneath it, a clean sheet, and
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:a returning hero back in the fold.
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:Demichélis could not have asked
for a cleaner opening night.
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:And speaking of calling it the same
way I did, that's where you come in,
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:because the Digital Terrace has been
buzzing since the final whistle, and
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:one of you in particular sent in a
submission I wanna get stuck into.
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:Let's open the mailbag
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:This is my favorite part of the
show every single time, because this
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:is where the Terrace gets the mic.
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:First up, over in the Digital
Terrace Discord, we've got a
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:belter of a submission from Ava.
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:Ava went through the big questions
from the match one by one, so I'm
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:going to do the same, 'cause there's
some generally sharp reading in here.
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:Let's go through it
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:first question I threw out, Nkunku back
in red and white with an assist inside
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:20 seconds of the action during return.
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:Ava's verdict, great assist, but
after that he didn't do much.
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:Now I'm going to gently
stick up for Chris here.
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:And look, I get the eye
test read completely.
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:It felt like the assist and then quiet.
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:But the numbers push back a little.
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:In 26 minutes off the bench,
Nkunku didn't just get the assist.
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:He also created a big chance, posted 0.17
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:expected assists, and completed
every single pass he attempted.
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:Seven from seven.
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:For a man just back in the shirt,
coming into a game that was already
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:won, that's a genuine tidy cameo.
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:So I'll meet you halfway over.
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:It wasn't a highlight
reel after the assist, no.
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:But he did do a bit more than
the eye gives him credit for.
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:And honestly, I'll take quite efficient
from a returning Nkunku all season long.
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:Next, Devin Schulze's league bow.
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:How good was it?
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:Ava reckons much better than
what we saw in preseason,
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:especially in the second half.
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:And I'm nodding along here
because that's spot on.
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:The preseason worry was
the attacking transition.
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:Could this side turn
dominance into damage?
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:Two of the three goals
came after the break.
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:The second-half momentum was
relentless, and the expected goals
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:gap only widened as the game wore on.
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:Preseason questions, first
competitive game answers.
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:Good spot.
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:Then the big one, player watch.
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:Seiwald versus Bolin.
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:Who won the duel?
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:Ava's answer, Bolin played a really
strong game, so it should be a tie
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:Now rewind just a few minutes ago
when I gave you that exact verdict.
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:Both men on 6.9,
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:opposite jobs, a genuine draw.
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:Ava got there independently.
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:Same conclusion, same reasoning.
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:Bolin was that good in a beaten
side that you can't split them.
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:This is what I love about
this community, Terrace.
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:We're not just watching the scoreline,
we're reading the game the same
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:way the deep numbers read it.
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:Ava, you and Sofa Score are in
lockstep, and you're both right.
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:Beautiful call.
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:Your standout in the
three-nil, Ava goes for two.
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:Lacaba, brilliant at carrying the ball
forward from the back, and Raum, who he
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:reckons has leveled up since last season.
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:Could not agree more on both.
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:Lacaba's carrying was a
feature of this whole game.
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:Nearly two hundred meters of ball
progression from a center half, and Raum
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:off the left was creating like a winger.
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:That team high expected assists number
backs up the level up read to the letter.
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:But then Ava gets spicy,
and I'm here for it.
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:Quote, "Two assists from Gomes, but
I don't trust him at all," and, "Lost
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:all faith in Harder and Benzuzi.
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:On Benzuzi, in ten minutes with
Van de Meeren, I feel like we
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:have a lot more ball movement,
and Benzuzi is allergic to goals."
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:Okay, let me take this fairly, because
there's truth and a caveat here.
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:On Gomes, you're completely right,
and the numbers are on your side.
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:We covered it.
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:Two assists, but a 6.5,
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:minus 16 metres of progression,
sloppy in possession.
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:The end product flattered
a rough performance.
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:Trust your eyes there.
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:On Benzuzi, though, I'm going to have
to offer a slightly different lens,
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:because allergic to goals is a great
line, but the data tells a kinder story.
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:Benzuzi actually had 1.26
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:expected goals this match.
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:That's more than any other Leipzig player.
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:He got into brilliant
positions again and again.
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:He missed two big chances, yes,
but allergic to goals would be
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:a man that never gets near them.
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:Benzuzi got near them constantly.
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:He just couldn't finish on the day.
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:That's a finishing problem, not a
movement problem, and finishing is
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:the most fixable thing in football.
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:So I'm not writing him off just yet.
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:Ask me again in five games.
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:But I hear you.
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:On the day, it was frustrating.
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:And finally, what did the
Sofascore numbers back up?
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:And Ava absolutely nails the brief here.
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:He says, the whole defence rated over 7.7
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:and deserved it.
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:Seibold and Benzuzi on 6.9
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:feels weird.
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:And Gomes on a 6.5
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:with two assists proves he played
horribly outside those two moments.
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:And get this, Ava clocked that Gomes'
second assist wasn't even a key
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:pass because Nusa did all the work.
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:That, that is a terrace member
reading the numbers like an analyst.
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:He's right about the defense.
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:They earned every decimal.
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:And he's right that a two assist 6.5
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:is the stat screaming, look closer.
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:That's not me feeding
you the tactics anymore.
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:That's you handing them back
to me sharper than I gave them.
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:Ava, outstanding submission.
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:Generally, that's the standard
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:And staying with this community,
a quick one that made me smile.
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:Over on Spotify, A-N-D-R-I-U-X-A.C-A-P-A-S
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:dropped a comment after last
episode, and I wanted to read it out.
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:They said, "Thanks for the shout-out and
for talking about my comment last episode.
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:Loving the interaction on this podcast.
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:Can't wait to see Nkunku
back in the RB jersey
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:Well, first of all, you got your wish
because Nkunku is back in the jersey,
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:and he marked it with an assist.
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:Perfect timing.
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:But more than that, this is
the whole point of RBL Talk.
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:This isn't me broadcasting at you.
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:There's no corporate wall, no gatekeeper,
no comment that disappears into the void.
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:You talk, I listen.
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:We go back and forth, and
the show gets better for it.
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:That's what independent
community-powered actually means.
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:So thank you, A-N-D-R-I-U-X-A.
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:The interaction goes both ways, and
it's the best part of doing this,
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:and that, Terrace, is exactly why
I'll keep asking for your takes
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:because you keep raising the bar
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:We'll get into matchday two in just
a second, but first, a quick word
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:Quick one and then straight
back to the football.
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:RBL Talk has no sponsors, no
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:That's a choice because it means
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:and can't say about this team.
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:No agendas, no gatekeepers,
just pure Leipzig passion.
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:No hard sell.
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:Back to the football
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:Right.
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:Match day two, a trip north, a ground with
a bit of history for this football club,
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:and a chance to make it two wins from two.
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:Let's talk about it
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:Match day two, Saturday the 5th of
September,:
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:CEST, which back home is 23:11 PM ACST.
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:Another late one for the Adelaide crew.
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:We're off to the Weserstadion to face
Werder Bremen, and I wanna start with
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:a number that made me smile because it
sets the tone for this whole preview.
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:In the all-time Bundesliga
head-to-head, Werder Bremen
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:have never beaten RB Leipzig.
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:Never.
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:The record reads six Leipzig wins,
four draws, and zero, zero Bremen
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:victories, and it's not just history.
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:Leipzig are unbeaten in their
last four league trips to the
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:Weserstadion, specifically two
wins, two draws, including a 2-1
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:on the last visit back in April.
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:This is, by every measure,
a happy hunting ground.
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:Now, I always tell you, past results
don't play the next match, so let's look
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:at what's actually in front of us because
the form picture only deepens the story.
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:Bremen opened their season away at
Freiburg, and it didn't go well.
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:They lost four-one, and the
underlying numbers are even
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:uglier than the scoreline.
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:Bremen mustered zero point four
eight expected goals across
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:the entire ninety minutes.
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:Zero point four eight, nine shots,
only three on target, and they were
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:out-tackled twenty-eight to nine.
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:And that stat is the tell.
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:When your team is racking up twenty-eight
tackles, you are not the team on the ball.
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:You are chasing, defending
deep, second to everything.
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:Freiburg had them pinned.
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:So here's the setup, and it's a stark one.
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:Leipzig arrive off a matchday
one where they generated three
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:point nine five expected goals.
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:Bremen arrive off a matchday
one where they conceded four
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:and created next to nothing.
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:On paper, that's a mismatch.
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:The caveat, and there's always a caveat,
is that a wounded team at home in front
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:of their own crowd is a dangerous animal.
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:Bremen will scrap.
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:They will make it physical.
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:But if Leipzig bring what they
brought against Gladbach, this has
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:the makings of another statement.
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:So here's your player watch duel for
this one, and it carries a thread
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:we've been pulling all episode.
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:On one side, Bremen's captain
and center half, Marco Friedl.
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:On the other, our returning
man, Christopher Nkunku.
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:Let me set the stage on Friedl,
because I don't want anyone
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:thinking this is a weak link pick.
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:It's the opposite.
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:Against Freiburg, Friedl was
Bremen's busiest defender and
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:generally excellent on the ball.
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:97% passing, 78 from 70,
and 100% in his own half.
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:219 meters carried.
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:This is a composed,
press-resistant, ball-playing
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:captain who barely gives it away.
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:But here's the how Leipzig
will hurt him part.
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:Look at what Friedl actually
had to do against Freiburg.
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:11 defensive contributions,
six clearances, six recoveries,
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:two interceptions, two blocks.
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:His heat map is a red smear
right across his own box.
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:That's not a defender controlling a game.
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:That's a defender under siege,
making save after save because
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:his team couldn't stem the tide.
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:And Leipzig's entire match day one
identity was exactly the thing that
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:overwhelms a center half like that.
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:Relentless, vertical, wave after
wave, attacking through the middle.
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:That's where Nkunku comes in.
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:Even as an impact sub, and he may well
start this one, Chris is precisely the
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:between the lines threat that drags
a center back into no-win decisions.
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:Does Friedl step out to meet him and
leave space in behind, or drop off and
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:let Nkunku turn and run at the back line?
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:In his 26 minutes against Gladbach, Nkunku
already showed the end products there.
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:An assist, a big chance created,
seven from seven passing.
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:So how does Bremen's Friedl
try to win this duel?
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:He needs to defend on the front foot.
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:Step early, screen the pocket,
use that lovely passing to relieve
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:the pressure before it builds.
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:And how does Leipzig break him?
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:Occupy him with runners
so he can't step out.
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:Get Nkunku receiving between
the lines and turning into the
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:space Friedl has to vacate.
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:If Leipzig make Friedl choose,
Friedl loses, because he'll be
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:making those choices all afternoon.
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:That's your duel.
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:Friedl's composure and reading of the
game against Nkunku's spark and movement.
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:Keep your eyes on it.
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:I'll have the result next time.
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:So what do the numbers say is coming?
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:Everything points one way.
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:Leipzig's expected goals output
on match day one was elite.
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:Bremen's was among the
worst in the league.
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:Leipzig has never lost this fixture
and they travel to the Weserstadion
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:better than almost anywhere.
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:Weigh it all up and I'm calling it.
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:Leipzig by two.
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:I'll say 2-0, maybe 3-1 if Bremen
nick a consolation off a set piece.
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:But a comfortable Leipzig win on the
road backed by every number we've got.
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:The only thing that
stops it is complacency.
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:And after a 3-0 opening
statement, I don't think this
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:group is in the mood to ease off.
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:And that's the lot.
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:Match day one dissected, your
voices heard, and match day
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:two locked in our sights.
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:Before I let you go, let me leave
you with a couple of things to chew
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:on and a question for the terrace
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:So let's bring it home.
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:A few things to take away from this one.
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:First, don't let a tidy
three-nil fool you.
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:This was a performance of real dominance.
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:Three point nine five expected goals, six
big chances, a mauling that a world-class
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:goalkeeping display kept respectable.
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:Domenico Lisi's Leipzig didn't just win.
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:They controlled the how of it.
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:Second, the depth is real.
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:A returning Nkunku off the bench with
an assist and a big chance created.
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:Gruder running a game without
troubling the score sheet.
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:Baku scoring and winning every
ground duel he contested.
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:This looks like a squad with layers.
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:And third, the road ahead sets up nicely.
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:A trip to the ground where Bremen have
never beaten us, against a side that
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:got picked apart on the opening weekend.
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:The pieces are in place for another
statement if the levels hold.
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:Which brings to my question for
you, the Digital Terrace, and I
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:wanna hear from you on this one.
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:Cast your mind back a few weeks, a
shaky preseason, mixed form, plenty
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:of us, me included, had worries about
where this squad was at, and the
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:matchday one lands, and it's that.
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:A dominant, controlled,
three-nil dismantling.
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:So here's what I'm asking.
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:After seeing that, are you comfortable
with how this squad is looking?
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:Or would you still change something?
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:Is there a weak area
you'd want strengthened?
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:A position you'd bring a player in for?
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:Or are you happy to run it
back with what we've got?
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:Where, if anywhere, does
this group still need work?
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:I want the honest takes and optimists
and the ones who are still holding back,
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:because the one dominant win doesn't
erase a whole preseason of questions.
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:Or does it?
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:You tell me.
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:Here's how to get your voice on the show.
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:Drop me a message on SpeakPipe.
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:You've got up to five minutes, and I love
playing your actual voices on the pod.
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:Leave a comment on Spotify episode,
or come and join the conversation
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:in the Digital Terrace Discord.
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:That's where the best debates
happen, and where Ava's cracking
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:submission came from this week.
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:All the links are in the show notes.
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:And before I go, the usual honest ask.
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:This show has no sponsors, no
corporate backing, no club money, and
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:that's exactly how I wanna keep it.
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:No agendas, no gatekeepers,
just pure Leipzig passion.
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:If it adds something to your week,
hit follow, leave a review, share it
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:with a fellow Leipzig fan, and if you
wanna chip in and keep it running, the
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:support links are in the show notes.
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:Every bit helps keep this
thing free and independent
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:That's episode 118.
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:Match day one was a statement.
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:Match day two is a chance
to make it two from two.
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:I'll be back after the Bremen game to
break it all down, including that Friedl
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:versus Nkunku player watch result, and
to read out your takes on the squad.
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:Until then, look after yourselves,
keep it locked to The Terrace, and
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:remember, tactics, terrace, truth.
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:Let's go RBL.
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:I've been Justin Crozer, and
until next time, bye-bye for now.