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Can Google Sites and Google Classroom Collaborate Effectively?
Episode 254 • 12th February 2024 • Ask The Tech Coach • Jeffrey Bradbury - TeacherCast Educational Network
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Welcome to "Ask the Tech Coach," a podcast for Instructional Coaches and Technology Integration Specialists. In this episode of “Ask the Tech Coach,” Jeff welcomes Kyle Horst from Kirksville Web Design on the podcast to discuss how Instructional Coaches can leverage the power of Google Sites with their teachers. Learn how you can create a dynamic website that collaborates WITH Google Classroom to create a seamless digital learning environment today! If you would like to be a part of future podcasts and share your thoughts, please contact the podcast.  We would love to have you join the show.

Question of the Week

Our favorite part of recording a live podcast each week is participating in the great conversations that happen on our live chat, on social media, and in our comments section. This week’s question is:
How can Google Sites and Instructional Coaching Websites be leveraged to support both Teachers AND Students in the classroom?

Weekly Topic

  • What is Kirksville Web Design?
  • Google Sites vs Microsoft SharePoint
  • How to start your School District Intranet project
    • Start with a single Google Drive folder
    • How to check that your file permissions are correctly set up
  • Why should Teachers and Coaches be taking advantage of Google Sites?
  • What are the features of Google Sites that we should be using when we create websites?
  • What are the hidden features of Google Sites that people may not know about?
  • How have you seen Google Sites be used in Education?
  • Myths about Google Sites
    • Not SEO Friendly
    • They look “basic”
    • No Blog
  • Wishlist for future Google Sites updates
    • Page Level Permissions
    • Blogging Support Features
    • Google Spaces / Chat Integration
    • Text Boxes and Insert Tables
    • Template Marketplace
    • Google Sites API Access
    • Code Injection of HTML / Javascript into Header
    • Supported Image Formats (SVG Support)
    • Gadgets / Widgets / Plugins Marketplace
    • More Navigational Features

About our Guest Kyle Horst

Kyle is a St. Louis, Missouri native who started KWD soon after graduating. Kyle is the lead designer of all websites and intranets but is also a top contributor product expert on Google Sites. He is an advocate and influencer for Google Sites-related content with a wide social media presence among Google Workspace customers and partners. Kirksville Web Design was formed in 2010 in the small town of Kirksville, Missouri USA by Kyle Horst. Google Sites was released in 2008 by Google Inc. and this technology was immediately chosen as the platform for Kirksville Web Design to build sites upon due to its low cost, reliability and ease of use.

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Hello everybody and welcome

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to the TeacherCast Educational Network.

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My name is Jeff Bradbury.

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Thank you so much for

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joining us today and making

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TeacherCast your home for

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professional development.

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This is Ask the Tech Coach

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podcast episode number 254.

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Today we're going to be

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talking about a subject

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that I love sharing,

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not only in the classroom,

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but also at conferences.

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Today,

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we're going to be talking about

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Google Sites,

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talking about how you can create one,

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why you should create one,

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and when is a website not a website?

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We have a fantastic guest on

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today from halfway across the planet,

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and we're going to be

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talking about what you can

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actually do with Google

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Sites that's a little bit in the box.

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but a little bit out of the box.

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So stick around.

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We've got a fantastic

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My guest today and I kind of

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met in a weird way.

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I started to put together a

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website for my new

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technology teaching position,

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and I wanted to figure out

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how to best use Google Sites.

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Now,

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you guys know I've done courses on

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Google Sites.

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I've done ISTE presentations

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on Google Sites,

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but I wanted to see what

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non-education was looking for.

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So I started to find

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Facebook groups of Google Sites.

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I started to find different

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uses of Google Sites out in the wild.

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And I came across a website

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called Kirksville Web Design.

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Now,

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this guy is doing amazing things using

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Google Sites.

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He is transforming the

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platform into things that I

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never thought was possible.

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And he's here today to talk

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all about how you can

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leverage Google Sites in your classroom.

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I want to bring on today Mr. Kyle Horst.

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Kyle, how are you today?

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Welcome to Ask the Tech Coach.

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Hey, doing good.

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Congratulations on your new site,

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by the way.

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It looked great.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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I've been having fun with it.

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We moved it to a brand new

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platform a few weeks ago.

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I mean, we're still on WordPress,

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but I changed hosts.

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It is super fast.

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It is screaming fast.

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And, you know,

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the content that we're

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putting out is amazing.

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We're just going to be doing

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a lot of great things on that.

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So first of all, thank you so much.

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And, and, you know,

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I mentioned in the intro,

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you're from halfway across

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the planet from where I am right now.

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Tell everybody where you are

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and tell us a little bit about yourself.

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Yeah, sure thing.

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So I am a St.

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Louis, Missouri native.

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And, uh, you may, you know, notice this,

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uh, you know,

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from work with Kirksville

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web design and that's my, my business.

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Uh,

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Kirksville is actually a small town in

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Missouri where, uh, went to college, uh,

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Truman state university is over there.

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And so started this small little, you know,

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Google sites building venture, uh, there,

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and it just has grown, uh, since then.

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So yeah,

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I'm a Google sites designer developer.

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and that sees me in all

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certain different spheres

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whether it's like in the

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educational sector private

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sector building intranets

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for companies it's just all

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over the place and so I'm

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really glad to be part of

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the this google product

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community and all the ways

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that you know kind of

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filter into facebook or you

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know how teachers are using

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it I'm really impressed by

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all the way that uh you

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know google workspace for education and

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all those users users are

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taking advantage of it

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really uh wonderful now we

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mentioned halfway across

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the world and people might

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be scratching their heads

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going wait a minute jeff

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you're in connecticut st

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louis is not halfway across

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Yeah, sorry about that.

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It's 9 o'clock in the

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morning and it's almost 10 o'clock,

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I think, for you.

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Where are you right now?

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Yeah, sorry.

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Yeah, I'm from St.

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Louis, but I'm now in Taipei, Taiwan.

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So that is where I'm talking

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to you from right now in my

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little cozy city apartment.

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And how did you get from St.

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Louis to Taiwan?

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uh I mean that in itself is

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an interesting story so it

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relates to my bible work my

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bible ministry and my

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volunteer work and so that

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actually is what

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transplanted me from

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missouri where I started uh

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teaching and preaching to

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the chinese community there

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and then went to tai taiwan

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to improve my language

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skills uh so my wife and I

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continue that volunteer

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work here so it really had

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nothing to do like business

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wise it was uh

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You know,

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I just took my laptop from

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Missouri to Taipei and

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continue to do the same work that I do.

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I love it.

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I love the opportunity to go

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out and to share the messages and,

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you know,

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but you still have those connections.

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I have to ask here because, you know,

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I've been in the website

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business since forever at this point.

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You know, I started doing,

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I'll say in quotes,

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professional websites when I was 15,

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right?

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Yeah.

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I found you online doing

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professional Google Sites

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and I just smiled and I said,

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how is somebody creating a

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business out of Google Sites?

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Like they're easy, they're this,

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they're that.

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But you've had the

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opportunity to really dive

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into this and create pieces of art.

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I mean, they really are.

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You've got a lot of great things going.

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How and why Google Sites?

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I mean,

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I always been really interested in

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what Google was doing as a company.

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Uh,

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and so I was always infatuated with

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whether apps, you know,

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whether it was like Google plus,

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when that came out or, uh, you know,

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I mean,

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of course teachers have this whole,

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you know,

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different app dashboard of like

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Google classroom and stuff and,

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and they use Google sites.

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So I was always, always interested in, uh,

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in these applications.

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uh Google of course is no

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Google sites is no code uh

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it's free so there was no

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like threshold you know to

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to stop me no obstacles so

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you can just start building

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sites right away like

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anyone can and so that's

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why I started doing you

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know some like 13 14 years

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ago I started building Google sites and

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No one has really carved out this,

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this niche.

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No.

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It's like you Google around,

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you try to find Google sites, designers,

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Google sites, developers.

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It's like, you know,

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one or two guys who are doing it.

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Um,

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it has grown actually recently interest

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in it.

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And just because I mean,

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things like no code site

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builders in general have

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become more popular, whether it's,

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you know, Wix or Squarespace.

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or Framer, Webflow.

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There's all sorts of different solutions.

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So it's not like Google

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Sites is out of the question.

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It's in that same ballpark.

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It's just perhaps more

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simplified as a platform for building.

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So you do have to work

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within the limitations a

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little bit and get creative.

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But that's what I try to do,

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push the boundaries as much as possible,

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what can be done.

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And then sometimes I hit a brick wall,

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but that's just how it goes.

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It's still 100% responsive.

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It's still 100% uptime and reliable.

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So it has a lot of benefits.

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And like I said, free.

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I mean, you can't be pre-hosting forever,

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which is what Google Sites is.

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It is, right?

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It's free.

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You can always add a domain to it.

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We're going to get into some

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of the more technical stuff

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later on here.

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And I'm glad you had

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mentioned the words brick wall, right?

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Because I do a lot of

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training on Google Sites.

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I also do a lot of training

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on Microsoft products.

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And being somebody who's

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been going to different

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school districts over the last many years,

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helping them build their own intranets,

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You know,

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you've got Google Sites and then

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on the other side, you've got SharePoint.

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And people often ask,

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are they the same thing

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minus just the logo?

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And no, no, they're not.

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They shouldn't be ever confused.

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But at the same time,

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the one thing that they do

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have in common is sharing.

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You can create a website, in quotes,

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that is just for your domain.

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So it is easy to create an

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intranet system.

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And in fact, in my previous position,

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I built our entire school

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district's intranet using

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the combination of sites

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and Google Classroom.

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And I definitely want to hit

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you on a topic on that one later on.

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But should school districts,

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should businesses be

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thinking about Google Sites

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as a viable intranet option?

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And why do you think that?

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Hmm.

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I mean,

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it kind of depends on where you're

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invested, whether it is, you know,

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a Microsoft shop or, you know,

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a Google shop.

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Are you running Google

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Workspace for business,

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Google Workspace for

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education within your, you know,

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whether it's a school

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district or whether it's an

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organization or a company.

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So, I mean,

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I'm not going to tell you to like,

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you know,

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switch over completely.

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If everybody's running the

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email on Outlook,

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you don't have to jump over

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to Google Sites.

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SharePoint is the internet

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solution for Microsoft.

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Google Sites is the internet

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solution for Google Workspace.

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Do you wish that Google

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Sites was more SharePoint,

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or do you think that that's

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an advantage that Google

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has because it is a basic thing,

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whereas SharePoint, I've always...

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trained it as sharepoint is

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a massive hard drive

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database system that

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happens to have a website

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that happens to have you

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know everything is kind of

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built around that

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sharepoint is a sharepoint

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is the nucleus that

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everything kind of goes

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around where google sites

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is one of many applications

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google happens to create

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right right I mean I would

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say from my point of view

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sharepoint seems more

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specialized as an internet

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and more proficient

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uh for Enterprise um I think

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there's a lot more tools

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and integrations maybe

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available and sort of the

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CRM uh or CMS that's based

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with SharePoint whereas

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Google Sites uh is more of

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a general site builder it

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can be used both for for

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internets and just for

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public websites and

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business small business

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websites so you know it's

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it's that kind of more

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specified use versus a more

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generalized use that you

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see with sites versus SharePoint.

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I'm curious on your

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philosophy when building

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internal websites,

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specifically around the file structure.

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Again,

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maybe we can compare it to

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SharePoint a little bit

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where everything is in a

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team or everything is in a

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SharePoint website.

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I find often when I'm

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working with school districts,

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I have to undo a lot of

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what they've created

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because a lot of stuff is in my drive.

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And so then you have an

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intranet based off of

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everybody's files that they

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individually own.

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That never seems to come out

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right on the other end when

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somebody decides to leave.

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Now you've got this

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organizational structure

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that's built off of I own the file.

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What advice do you have or

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what theories and

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philosophies do you have if

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you were going to sit down

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and build an intranet for somebody?

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Where do you suggest keeping the files?

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Do you have a naming

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structure that you suggest?

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Where do you start when

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you're putting something

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like this together for a

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school district or a company?

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I would start with a Google

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Drive shared drive.

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So what that does is it

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takes the question of who

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is the owner of a document

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out of the picture.

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Essentially, in a shared drive,

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everyone is the owner.

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There's no specific individual.

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It becomes like a company

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drive at that point.

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So at any time of starting

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an intranet build out, I say,

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make a shared drive.

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And this is where we're

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going to put all our intranet documents.

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And this is our document

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management system for this site.

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Google Sites is actually

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integrated within Google Drive.

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So Google Sites is there.

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You can actually add your

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site right into the shared drive.

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And then along with every

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folder and all the

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documentation can live there.

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So that's the recommended way.

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Of course,

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it can be a little bit more

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hairy when you have people

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have their docs and their

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My Drive and they're the

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owners and maybe they're

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not going to move it there voluntarily.

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So it can get a little messy, but I mean,

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Overall, ideally,

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you'd like that all to be a shared drive.

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And then from inside of there,

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it's a matter of having permissions,

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right?

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These files can be seen inside only.

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These files might be able to

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see outside only.

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How do you set up Google

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Admin so that way

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everything is where it

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needs to be and you don't

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accidentally have those?

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I mean, let's be honest.

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We've all had the

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embarrassment of it looks great to you,

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but then somebody can't see

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the Google Doc that you've

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put on it because you don't

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think about those permissions.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, I mean, at a baseline,

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I want that shared drive to

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be domain only.

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So, you know, so it's not, I mean,

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it's for an internal site.

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It's not supposed to be,

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unless you're building like

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a vendor portal or an extranet, you know,

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where people outside, you know,

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consultants maybe are

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viewing documents that I can understand.

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But if you're building an intranet,

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you're going to want that

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to be secured to domain

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only at the shared drive level.

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And then at the folder level, you know,

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you have this,

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micromanagement of

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permissions and

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accessibility so you can

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determine okay this is

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going to be you know for

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management or

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administrators this is going

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to be for it this is for hr

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and you can delineate that

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as much as you need to but

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I think because google

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sharing and permissions is

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really intuitive and you

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can also use contact groups

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leverage those along with

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it so people are coming in

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and out of a contact group

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uh you know it'll

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modify the permissions there accordingly.

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I'm glad you mentioned that

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because that's exactly how

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we set things up in my

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previous district is

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everything was district all

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or district building all

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and just making sure that

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those file groups,

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you're not doing a folder

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with 150 individual teachers,

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you're doing it at the group level,

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right?

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let's bring that down a

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little bit there are a lot

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of instructional coaches

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listening to this who have

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created google sites and

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I've often found myself

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saying it is really easy to

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make a google site look

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horrendously horrible

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So you know what I'm talking about, good.

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There's pitfalls, right?

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I mean,

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it's easy to create a site where

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every row has a different background,

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right?

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And we all know that Google

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Sites has a number of stock backgrounds.

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But you've come up with some

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ways to really make your sites look nice.

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I mean,

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even when I'm looking at your homepage,

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kirksvillewebdesign.com,

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you have it listed in rows.

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Some of the rows are white.

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Some of the rows are like a

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little off gray.

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But you definitely see a delineation.

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You've got some great pictures in here.

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What is your philosophy when

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building sites?

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out I'll call it let's just

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start with the words

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landing pages but when

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you're building out those

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main pages of a website

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what do you think and as

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you go down many coaches

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are building for themselves

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I kind of try to steer them

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for you're not building for

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yourself you're building

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for others so make it look

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easy make the navigation

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easy but when you have a

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blank canvas where do you

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start oh boy um I mean you can get

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a lot of inspiration I think

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around the web just as like

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a starting point find out

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what style of site that you

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want to build um so first I

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like to get inspired by

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something um maybe it's in

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the same industry I'm in or

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maybe it's just general you

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know graphic designers uh

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or web designers and their

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you know uh their

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creativity whether it's

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through like something like dribble

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or there's lots of designer

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hubs that you can explore.

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So I think that's one avenue to check out.

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And then it comes down to

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basic user interface

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standards for web design.

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Take, for instance,

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you can make a text block

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in Google Sites.

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And that text block can be

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the whole width of the grid,

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can be the whole width of

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that text block.

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However,

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have you thought about when people

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read that, you know,

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they have to read across

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the entire line and

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actually their eyes get strained,

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you know,

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trying to go that far and then

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having come back to the

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next line and come over

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here and start a new line of text.

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So actually,

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you want to bring that text in to be a

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know a shorter dimension

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width wise just to help

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with like legibility and

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readability so actually

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like a lot of this is has

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to do with you know spacing

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and and just like general

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best use or best uh I'm

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trying to say web design

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standards uh to consider so

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I mean not everyone has an

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eye for it and you know I

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understand that but uh try

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to be consistent you know

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it's one one thing

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As far as like colors and

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fonts are concerned,

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simplicity and consistency

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can speak a lot for making

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any site or a professional site.

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I remember when sites first came out,

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it was 10 years ago when I

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first took on my first

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instructional coaching

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position and I was rah, rah, rah.

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And my superintendent

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decided to go all in.

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And so, yes,

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we were building out a website

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for ourselves,

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but somehow the district

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got the idea that every

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department needed their own

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individual Google site.

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And so I then was building

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out a template to then copy

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that template for the math department,

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for the HR department, for the unit.

::

Every single one had their own.

::

And then it became difficult

::

because each of those staff

::

members wanted to make

::

their departments unique.

::

You see where I'm going with this.

::

Suddenly,

::

our district online presence had

::

4,000 different styles of

::

websites that all had to

::

interlock with each other.

::

And that's difficult because...

::

The navigation is the key.

::

It's the tree in the woods, right?

::

If you can't find the website,

::

it doesn't exist.

::

And with a Google site,

::

you do have a search button,

::

but the search button only

::

searches within that particular site.

::

So we ended up, you know,

::

and I couldn't stop the

::

train once the decision was made.

::

But you had all of these

::

different sites that just

::

didn't talk to each other.

::

one of the questions that

::

has come out is how big can

::

a google site be have you

::

had an opportunity to to

::

think about that one or

::

have you had an opportunity

::

to kind of play with you

::

know massive google sites

::

in other words could I

::

really make a school

::

district site on a google

::

page that has a hundred

::

sites I mean how big have

::

you seen these things go

::

and is it a matter of ages or file size

::

well I mean Google sites

::

won't take up any of your

::

storage or a file space

::

within Drive so there's no

::

limit from that point of

::

view and you know your file

::

won't have a you know set

::

amount of megabytes or

::

gigabytes that it's that's

::

using uh so that's not a

::

concern uh I I cannot

::

remember if there's an

::

actual page limit on new Google sites

::

I can say back in the day

::

when I built actually a

::

behemoth intranet for Teach for America.

::

And that was like 500 pages.

::

Wow.

::

And that was the biggest

::

project I think I've ever

::

took on or built.

::

And so

::

I'm not sure if I ever converted, you know,

::

to classic Google Sites was like,

::

you know,

::

Google Sites 1.0 and now Google

::

Sites 2.0.

::

I'm not sure if it converted

::

or not or what happened with that.

::

But I mean, personally,

::

I haven't hit a limit with

::

one individual Google site

::

and a number of pages or, you know,

::

characters or something like that.

::

So that was 500 pages on Google Sites 1.0.

::

And they do have,

::

or classic sites right now is dead,

::

but they did have that

::

point in time where there

::

was the conversion process happening,

::

and it wasn't pretty.

::

It was like,

::

here's kind of what this looks like,

::

but all of your

::

contraptions and all of

::

your widgets and stuff like that, yeah,

::

they're not working anymore.

::

That upset a lot of people.

::

One of the other things that

::

I was facing when this

::

thing first came out 10

::

plus years ago was there was no themes.

::

There was five,

::

but people wanted the customizer.

::

And even today,

::

I don't think a lot of

::

teachers and coaches know

::

that you can now create your own theme.

::

You can now customize your theme.

::

You can even open up a

::

second Google site and you

::

can grab the theme from the first one.

::

which is wonderful.

::

Unfortunately,

::

I think that opens up even more that,

::

okay,

::

now it really is easier to create

::

something that looks

::

horrible because now you've

::

got unlimited fonts, unlimited colors,

::

and you've got unlimited everything.

::

And now you've got, you know,

::

three different panels full

::

of six different colors each.

::

I mean,

::

even just putting this stuff

::

together for my school for this year,

::

it's a nightmare trying to

::

try to match up fonts and

::

stuff where are you with

::

all the theme stuff do you

::

try to keep things stock do

::

you have a you know in your

::

bag of tricks do you have a

::

theme that you like to just

::

take and build from if

::

somebody wants you to work

::

with them any thoughts and

::

tricks of creating your own

::

school or building theme I mean I if you

::

are keen on graphic design

::

at all or web design in

::

general I mean you want to

::

work within the school's uh

::

design guidelines or

::

branding guidelines of some

::

sort that's that's where I

::

look to first you know as

::

far as logos colors are

::

concerned uh fonts

::

typography is concerned you

::

know I want to use all that

::

information because that's

::

already kind of set in in

::

stone you know it's already an approved

::

brand that you want to build

::

the site into.

::

So if you can make your theme,

::

your custom Google sites

::

theme match as close as

::

possible to those guidelines, I mean,

::

that would be, that would be great.

::

And that kind of brings it

::

into the same family, you know,

::

of websites because you

::

have a public website, obviously,

::

you know, for any school.

::

So can you kind of work within those,

::

those guidelines and those

::

boundaries to create a,

::

google site and usually you

::

can I mean there's I think

::

google fonts you know you

::

have hundreds of fonts to

::

choose from and maybe if

::

you can't get that exact

::

sans serif font you know

::

that was noted in the great

::

guidelines you can find

::

something that's like

::

almost identical so you

::

know I'm looking through

::

your site here and you've

::

got different designs for a number of

::

enterprises here, right?

::

You've got education,

::

you've got business templates.

::

The one that totally caught

::

my eye when I was looking

::

at this a few weeks ago was

::

you've got one that's kind

::

of notion themed and how

::

it's all done with the

::

bullet points and stuff

::

like that and the little icons on top.

::

And so what have you seen?

::

I mean,

::

I know a lot of teachers and

::

coaches are using sites

::

outside of the box.

::

As an example,

::

we're going to be using

::

Google Sites in a few weeks

::

in my class to create

::

posters for our upcoming

::

musical and our upcoming

::

band concerts where I'm just saying,

::

here's a website,

::

pretend you're making the poster,

::

use a Google form as like

::

an email sign up,

::

use a Google slide to put video on top.

::

Think outside the box.

::

How have you seen Google

::

Sites being used maybe for

::

something other than a

::

traditional looking website?

::

there are lots of of

::

templates actually nowadays

::

that you can grab for free

::

um and utilize so that's

::

actually one of the largest

::

queries related to google

::

sites is google sites

::

templates yeah and so you

::

get like we got 6 000 plus

::

queries a month you know on

::

that it's probably more but

::

it's roughly that so you I

::

mean I I'm designing

::

templates you got lots of

::

people designing free templates

::

All you need to do is to

::

copy one of those.

::

You copy it once,

::

and then you can use that

::

either as a copy or you can

::

import that theme into your

::

existing Google site if you

::

don't want to have to

::

migrate the content or

::

rebuild it or something.

::

So I think there's a lot of

::

freedom there just from all

::

the work that's being done

::

by Google Sites designers.

::

And you've got a lot of

::

stuff on your site here.

::

I mean, I see a lot of...

::

professionals using these sites where it's,

::

you know, it's a simple one page site,

::

but it's got your picture

::

up on top and then it's got

::

all your social links.

::

And there's companies that

::

are out there charging, you know,

::

10 bucks a month just for

::

these kinds of simple services.

::

And I know why not just make

::

that in Google sites?

::

You don't have to have a header.

::

You don't have to have a footer.

::

You can just make a simple site.

::

put a domain name on it,

::

or just link directly to it.

::

And I mean, you've got a template here,

::

free link in bio website.

::

It's simple, it's easy,

::

and it looks professional

::

as anything else.

::

And did I mention it's free, right?

::

I don't think people are

::

taking advantage of the

::

fact that you can do

::

everything with this.

::

For the longest time,

::

up until this version of TeacherCast,

::

all of my presentations

::

were built off of sites.

::

I had one site with, I think right now,

::

it's up to like 60 or 70

::

presentations inside of it.

::

But they're all hidden pages.

::

So in other words,

::

there's no navigation up on top.

::

And for each of those signups,

::

I actually put my

::

ConvertKit signup sheet on a Google page.

::

So all of my landing pages

::

have been done through Google Sites.

::

But again,

::

you wouldn't know it because of

::

the way that it was designed.

::

Oh, that's cool.

::

One of the things that I

::

wanted to ask you about are

::

some of the myths, maybe,

::

that I've heard over the years.

::

And I come from the

::

education part of this.

::

There's a few myths that

::

says don't use Google Sites

::

professionally.

::

They're not SEO friendly.

::

What do you think about that?

::

Well, I mean, I can't...

::

mince my words or I can't,

::

I'm not gonna lie.

::

I mean,

::

Google sites does not have all the

::

essay SEO tools that other, you know, uh,

::

web builder platforms will have.

::

So, uh, like WordPress, you know,

::

or like maybe Squarespace

::

or some of these other platforms,

::

it won't have all the tools

::

available to you for SEO.

::

So in that sense, it lacks in that area.

::

And I think that's just because, I mean,

::

it's never been like a

::

primary objective of Google

::

sites to be like,

::

I don't know, marketed or, or, you know,

::

building.

::

Like I said,

::

Google Sites has been generalized,

::

it's internet friendly,

::

it's website friendly,

::

it's teacher friendly.

::

So SEO has never been like, you know,

::

a primary concern or an

::

important concern for the

::

Google Sites development team.

::

And so it hasn't gotten a

::

lot of attention.

::

And so yeah,

::

if you're super concerned with being like,

::

I don't know,

::

Rank number one on a local

::

business page for some reason.

::

Yeah,

::

maybe Google Sites isn't the right

::

choice for you.

::

It's not to say it can't rank well.

::

It can,

::

and obviously my website ranks well

::

for a number of queries.

::

If you type in Google Sites templates,

::

you're right up on top.

::

That's how we found each other here.

::

There is a little bit of SEO,

::

but it's not WordPress, right?

::

Right.

::

If you're creating relevant, unique,

::

interesting,

::

linkable content I mean it's

::

going to grow organically

::

anyway whether it's a

::

google site or a wordpress

::

site so keep that in mind

::

the other one here and and

::

I'd love to get your thoughts on this

::

There's no blog post.

::

There's no way to have dynamic content.

::

And I've come up with some

::

ways to do this in the classroom side,

::

but I'm curious on the professional side,

::

if you are a company and

::

you're looking to have a

::

Google site built for you

::

or for your event or for whatever,

::

how do you support the idea

::

of having dynamic written

::

bloggy type content?

::

What do you do?

::

Where do you go for that?

::

Or can we just use more pages?

::

What do you do?

::

It's a pain point for me too.

::

Essentially,

::

I'm just creating basic pages

::

and I'm adding them manually.

::

It's not as easy as just say,

::

click new blog post, write article,

::

publish blog post.

::

It's there and it's

::

automatically managed and

::

archived and all that sort of stuff.

::

So there's not a lot of

::

support for blogging.

::

And yeah, I do find it frustrating.

::

Is it doable in a manual sense?

::

Yeah, kind of.

::

But it's not the strength of

::

Google Sites right now, at least.

::

I've come up with a number of solutions.

::

There's an application out

::

there called Padlet,

::

which is essentially like a wall.

::

It's like a sticky wall kind of a thing,

::

but you can transform this

::

corkboard, if you will, into a blog role.

::

Okay.

::

So it's a second,

::

it's a second application,

::

but then you can embed that blog role,

::

if you will, into a Google site.

::

Suddenly you've got dynamic conversation,

::

like a Google classroom

::

stream or something like that.

::

Right.

::

I've also seen teachers

::

connect their Google sites

::

in with blogger.

::

But the problem with that

::

then is Blogger is not

::

really part of the Google Apps education.

::

There's no controls for it.

::

There's no acceptable use policy for it.

::

So if a teacher wants to go

::

in that direction,

::

they're kind of using a

::

non-approved application

::

within the Google ecosystem

::

or maybe out of the Google ecosystem.

::

Is education using Google

::

Spaces within Google Chat?

::

You know, some yes, some no.

::

In my previous district,

::

I tried to bring spaces in

::

as a way for professional learning.

::

So here's the music

::

department space and here's

::

the administrator space.

::

Yeah.

::

You know,

::

people don't want to do chat

::

because chat's more of a

::

one to one thing.

::

Spaces is more of a group text.

::

But that's a culture shift, you know,

::

and I find if the leader is

::

willing to move in that direction,

::

then sure.

::

If not, it's like Twitter groups.

::

They exist and there's 50 people in them.

::

But are they really

::

something if there's no

::

chatting going on?

::

So I think yes.

::

And I think that there are

::

certain districts that are

::

making it work.

::

could also say the same

::

thing about teams right um

::

working with the school

::

district now um I'll say in

::

the southern part of the

::

united states where they

::

want me to help them bring

::

in an intranet but they

::

don't want to go into teams

::

Well, Teams is the intranet.

::

Teams is the SharePoint.

::

Just because you don't want

::

to chat doesn't mean that

::

you need to not have all

::

those opportunities that

::

Teams brings you.

::

Teams is kind of, again,

::

it's the box that holds everything.

::

So I think people are scared of chat.

::

I mean, let's face it.

::

We still live in a society

::

where email is...

::

what rules us all.

::

And we're not,

::

I don't think we're thinking

::

productive yet.

::

Going, you know,

::

the only way to be

::

productive in this world is

::

to get your nose out of your inbox.

::

So email is good for long-term things.

::

Chat is good for quick things.

::

I don't like emailing you saying, hey,

::

what are you doing for lunch?

::

Now that's in the middle of

::

a thread or something, right?

::

so that's a long way to

::

answer the question but I

::

think spaces are there if

::

depending on how ingrained

::

it is I mean you know if a

::

school district's going to

::

say like all second grade

::

teachers are in this space

::

and we're going to use that

::

space to talk about second

::

grade curriculum I think it

::

could fly that's

::

interesting yeah because you got sorry

::

Go ahead.

::

Yeah,

::

I was going to say you got these sort

::

of dynamic group chat sort

::

of applications like

::

Microsoft has Microsoft Teams or,

::

you know,

::

people have historically looked

::

at Slack as one of the great solutions.

::

And now Google is trying to

::

kind of also fill that that

::

gap and that vacuum within

::

Google workspace that

::

creating Google spaces.

::

Yeah, I think it's a cultural shift,

::

like you're saying,

::

whether they're going to adopt that.

::

It's hard to roll it out.

::

Being a long term instructional coach,

::

you're kind of rolling out these concepts,

::

these culture shifting

::

concepts from the bottom up.

::

When I did have the hot seat

::

and I was in the director position,

::

I tried to bring that stuff in, but

::

For many, there's so many tools,

::

it's easy to say, well,

::

that's just one more thing,

::

I don't have time.

::

And from the Google trainer point of view,

::

it's easy for me to say,

::

but this is the function of this,

::

and this is the function for this.

::

I'll give you another example.

::

I was working with a group

::

of instructional coaches for a while,

::

and we had a chat,

::

but we kept putting

::

long-term things in the chat.

::

in Microsoft Teams.

::

Whereas I was trying to

::

bring in the culture shift of, you know,

::

if you're going to put a website link,

::

you put that in the channel.

::

And then we can have a

::

conversation in the channel

::

about that specific thing.

::

But if you keep it in the chat, you know,

::

you'll never find it again.

::

Or somebody in a meeting says, oh,

::

I stuck it in the chat six weeks ago.

::

Well, who's ever going to find that?

::

But if you put it in a channel,

::

now you can have a

::

conversation around a theme.

::

those are hard things to

::

bring into people.

::

Cause then they just say, I'm confused.

::

I give up, forget about it.

::

And then it just goes back

::

down to send me an email and you're going,

::

no, we're going to slow down then.

::

So it's difficult.

::

Yeah.

::

I mean, I,

::

I find it difficult to say

::

there's no all in one solution.

::

Oh,

::

whether I am looking at specifically

::

Google workspace,

::

but there's nothing that

::

brings it all into like one

::

space where it's like, you know,

::

I kind of silo it out.

::

I say Google Sites is for static content.

::

I say if you want dynamic content,

::

you're looking at spaces and chat.

::

If you're going email,

::

of course there's email.

::

So it's like I looked at the

::

strengths of each of these

::

applications or document management.

::

Okay, that's Google Drive.

::

There's some obvious ones

::

that you see there,

::

but there's no huge all in

::

one consolidated master

::

solution that I wish maybe existed.

::

It'd be interesting.

::

Well, I've got this theory here,

::

and I want to hit you with this one.

::

They call it Office 365,

::

or now they call it Microsoft 365.

::

And the concept in my world

::

behind that is everything

::

connects to one theme.

::

It's all connected.

::

Every single day, every single minute,

::

it's all connected.

::

It's all SharePoint,

::

but PowerPoint is in SharePoint,

::

but Sites is in SharePoint,

::

but Copilot is all built

::

around the nucleus of SharePoint.

::

However, on the other side,

::

it's called Google

::

Applications or Google Apps, right?

::

Many,

::

many applications that just happen to

::

kind of have the same looking logo.

::

And, you know,

::

Think about the way that

::

Google Apps works.

::

If you were in Docs, Sheets, Slides,

::

and you wanted to insert an image,

::

you go to the Insert Image button,

::

and what does it do?

::

It opens up a dialog to find

::

something and drive, right?

::

But if you're in Google Keep

::

and you wanted to open up an image,

::

it opens up a dialog box to

::

search your physical hard drive.

::

at least the last time I checked it was.

::

Those things don't make sense.

::

So I've always looked at Google saying,

::

you've got a great philosophy here,

::

but there's no nucleus that

::

holds it together.

::

You've got four different applications,

::

but they all do different things.

::

And so even now you look at

::

docs on the right side,

::

it's got calendar and keep

::

and all those other things.

::

But then you look at a

::

different application and

::

those aren't there.

::

So you're trying to teach

::

students how to find this.

::

You're trying to teach

::

teachers how to find these

::

things and it's not always there.

::

Here's my philosophy.

::

And I want to get your opinion on this.

::

And I've been saying this one for years.

::

Google made a mistake in

::

rolling out Google Sites.

::

And because of it,

::

it has been an uphill

::

battle for people like us.

::

And when I say they made a mistake,

::

they came out with Google

::

Classroom in 2008, 2009,

::

somewhere in 2010, somewhere in there.

::

And we knew as teachers that

::

Google Classroom was a

::

place to build a course and

::

it had a stream,

::

which means you could have

::

a rolling conversation and

::

you could put all your

::

materials on there and your

::

assignments and everything

::

that you need was on there.

::

A year later,

::

they came out with a baseline

::

version of Google Sites,

::

and it stripped out everything.

::

And teachers,

::

and I don't know about the

::

corporate world, but teachers said,

::

I don't want that.

::

I'm now in Classroom.

::

I've been saying forever now,

::

Google Sites and Google

::

Classroom should really be

::

looked at as one application,

::

where Classroom is where

::

you're teaching things,

::

but sites is where you're keeping things.

::

So the way that I've

::

designed all my classes is

::

it's a put and a push, right?

::

I put my stuff in a website,

::

I push it out through Classroom.

::

So if I'm in a Google

::

Classroom this year and I'm

::

teaching and I archive my class,

::

all that stuff is gone.

::

if it's on my website all I

::

have to do is next year

::

just open up a brand new

::

classroom and all that

::

stuff is still there it

::

saves me time so I put my

::

stuff here but I teach over

::

here and really all of my

::

classroom archives are just

::

links back to the website

::

that I'm building

::

Does that make sense?

::

Am I making sense when I say that?

::

I really do believe, and again,

::

when I build my intranets

::

from my previous position,

::

sites and classroom,

::

all of the stuff for HR is

::

in a site or on a site.

::

But the superintendent's

::

going to message everybody

::

through classroom, through the stream,

::

through an assignment, through, you know,

::

do this, and now you can keep track.

::

And that was a really hard

::

thing to push through.

::

where you've got these two different names,

::

but they really need to be

::

looked at at the same time, the same way.

::

So I look at that as both as

::

being one application.

::

Am I crazy?

::

What do you think?

::

I think Google Sites could

::

essentially borrow and

::

learn a lot from Google Classroom.

::

I think it could also borrow

::

and learn from Google Chat and Spaces.

::

I think it could integrate a lot of things

::

into sites to make it better.

::

Uh, however, sometimes, you know,

::

Google sites on the back foot in terms of,

::

I guess,

::

getting those developer hours from,

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from Google to make those updates.

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Um,

::

but I think one of the problems is my

::

perspective, because I mean,

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I've never been a teacher.

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I've never been educator.

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I've only been serving as

::

like maybe an outside consultant,

::

you know, to, uh,

::

schools or been a site

::

developer for schools.

::

So, you know,

::

the majority of my clients

::

don't even know Google

::

Classroom exists or that

::

it's able to be implemented

::

at a business or corporate

::

or private level.

::

So they don't even consider it, you know,

::

as an application.

::

And the sad thing is also Google Sites.

::

I mean,

::

marketing is not great and many

::

people don't know it exists.

::

And so they don't build a

::

Google site or they don't know, you know,

::

this isn't even a Google Drive app.

::

so it's kind of a little bit

::

of a sad state and things

::

but I mean that's what

::

people like me are trying

::

to improve and and trying

::

to I mean not only with

::

like client you know client

::

discussions but also you

::

know I participate on the

::

product forums I'm there

::

supporting and helping

::

people through that to find

::

solutions um so I mean

::

there's a there's a

::

community like you found on

::

on Facebook for example and so

::

know we're just trying to

::

make the best use of the

::

product that we can well

::

you had mentioned developer

::

hours let's kind of wrap up

::

here with things you wish

::

google sites could do I'm

::

sure you have a list have

::

you seen my list I've

::

published it actually that

::

might be where I'm going

::

with this okay let me see

::

how I can pull it up right um

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Again,

::

this is the same thing as I wish

::

when somebody opens up Google Keep,

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it didn't look at their hard drive.

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Like small things like that.

::

But I mean, you know,

::

when we can start with,

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I wish it had a blog role.

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I wish it just, it worked.

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I wish it all embedded.

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I wish this and that.

::

But what's, give me your top, okay,

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let's do the wrestling terms.

::

Give me your Mount Rushmore.

::

What are the four things

::

that you really would love

::

to see if Google was

::

listening to you right now?

::

Which, of course,

::

I'm sure that Mr. Google is

::

listening to this podcast.

::

What are the top few things

::

that you really wish Google

::

Sites would have?

::

Yeah, I mean, that's how I've prioritized.

::

I've made the list and I

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have the top five already

::

lined out for you.

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Lay it on me.

::

I have 15, which was the total,

::

but I'll give you what the top five are.

::

So the first one is page level permissions,

::

which used to be a part of classic sites,

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did not make it into new sites,

::

and has frustrated many a

::

user and site content owner.

::

So page level permissions,

::

another pain point there.

::

Actually,

::

number two was what we discussed there,

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blogging support features.

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and post-publishing and that

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sort of content management system.

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Three was Google Spaces and

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chat integration.

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Can we bring that into sites, please?

::

That would be beautiful.

::

Four was text boxes and insert tables.

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So it's more like design

::

capabilities with the text boxes because,

::

you know, how many times can I...

::

these are not difficult

::

things right yeah and not

::

even on this on this blog

::

post I made about it I have

::

as an example you know

::

exactly what squarespace is

::

doing and you know how they

::

have figured that solution

::

out like can we come up

::

with you know this thing

::

for google sites and roll

::

it out please that'd be

::

nice uh I know number five

::

on my on my top five here

::

was a template marketplace

::

so that you know more people

::

are exposed to the

::

templates that are being

::

designed and marketed and

::

and you know those

::

designers are doing a great

::

job whether I mean it's an

::

education you got people

::

making templates you know

::

teacher teacher sites and

::

student sites and

::

portfolios all sorts of

::

stuff in education sector I

::

mean I wish those got uh

::

more exposure keep going

::

give me your top 10.

::

Just everything that you're saying,

::

I'm just nodding my head here.

::

And I've got one that you

::

might not have on the list.

::

Let's go down your list to

::

see if my one thing,

::

because I'm about to start

::

a major project this week.

::

And I'm hoping that you can

::

talk me out of it.

::

So that was the top five.

::

Give me the top ten here.

::

All right.

::

Six.

::

We got Google Sites API access.

::

I'm not like...

::

a great developer but I know

::

people that are and they

::

would do fantastic things

::

if they just had the tools

::

to do so so api access was

::

one thing next uh code

::

injection of html and css

::

javascript into the the

::

header of the site so into

::

the site globally uh if you

::

could insert code anywhere

::

right now you only can work

::

within set dimensional widgets you know

::

uh so that's one thing and

::

next is supported image

::

formats if you're using uh

::

svg which is you know a

::

vector format you know you're out of luck

::

uh next is gadgets widgets

::

plugins directory

::

marketplace this is

::

actually a google classic

::

thing as well you had a

::

bunch there's like a

::

directory of all sorts of

::

gadgets and widgets that

::

people had made and

::

published you know whether

::

it was like weather or just

::

like a stopwatch timer you

::

know just various things uh

::

so now that doesn't exist

::

anymore um what am I on

::

though what number am I at

::

You're doing great, though.

::

Everything you're saying, I'm going, okay.

::

Number 10 was more navigational features,

::

controls, hover effects.

::

So right now you just have top nav,

::

side nav, that's it.

::

And, you know, some little customization.

::

Right.

::

You have a nice-looking side nav,

::

but then the logo is so

::

small and ugly-looking.

::

Can we please make that

::

square bigger or something, right?

::

Yeah, just more...

::

We want to tweak it a bit,

::

like you're saying.

::

Right.

::

Every time I start a project,

::

I take a deep breath and I

::

just say to myself, it's not WordPress.

::

It's not WordPress.

::

I'll give you one here.

::

Look,

::

the reason why we're talking today is

::

because I love doing Google

::

Sites projects with my kids.

::

And I'm about to unleash

::

student portfolios

::

using Google Sites.

::

And I've had conversations

::

with many educators.

::

I've had many conversations

::

even in our Facebook group

::

there of how do you do this?

::

And if we go back to Google Classroom,

::

right,

::

I create a doc and then I

::

assign that doc to you and

::

then it does the make a copy.

::

Everybody makes a copy.

::

And if you do that process,

::

the teacher has access to

::

the doc 100% of the time and controls it.

::

But that feature does not exist for sites.

::

And so I need to find a way to do this,

::

but right now I've created

::

a template that I want to

::

give out to my kids and

::

it's got a page for every

::

project that we're doing.

::

And essentially the way my

::

class works is we're gonna

::

do an assignment and then

::

they're gonna put it on the website.

::

Do an assignment, put it on the website,

::

right?

::

You get the concept here.

::

And many people have said,

::

have the students,

::

make the website and share it with you.

::

And I'm going, no,

::

then they're all going to look different.

::

Or I now have to have a

::

checkbox of who actually did it.

::

So I don't get to the end of

::

the year and realize that

::

Timmy hasn't done something

::

yet for the last six weeks, right?

::

So I have to create a

::

situation where I can

::

control this and I can see it.

::

And that way they can't kick me out.

::

Because if I create it and I

::

share it with everybody,

::

then I haven't used any classroom time.

::

But if I say we're going to

::

open up a Google site,

::

and here's an example,

::

make yours look like this,

::

I've just taken three weeks

::

of my life away.

::

So the only way that I know how to do this,

::

and I had to do this five

::

years ago when I taught a

::

course like this, was I make the template,

::

I go into Drive, I hit Copy,

::

Now you have two.

::

I highlight them and copy.

::

Now I have four.

::

I highlight them and copy.

::

And then I start again.

::

I put Jeff's website and

::

Kyle's website and Mary's website.

::

And I do that times 100 individually.

::

And then I go in and I share

::

it with Kyle and Jeff and Mary.

::

And you can see how much time this takes.

::

But at the end...

::

The only thing I have to

::

fear is that they're going

::

to get an email.

::

And I told them all this the other day.

::

You're going to get an email

::

probably at two in the morning that says,

::

Mr. Bradbury is sharing a

::

website with you.

::

Do not touch this thing

::

because I can't control the theme.

::

I can't control a box.

::

So essentially when I make

::

these templates for people,

::

it's just the stock box options.

::

So that way,

::

God forbid a kid comes up and says,

::

I accidentally deleted it.

::

It's literally a one click

::

and the template area is still in there.

::

Am I missing something?

::

There's no other way to mass

::

produce in a way that is safe.

::

Because again,

::

I don't want to have a

::

hundred and some kids

::

I'm not trying to create web designers.

::

I'm trying to give them a portfolio tool.

::

There's no other way to do this.

::

And so your answer might be,

::

then don't use sites.

::

Find a different platform, right?

::

But those platforms, of course,

::

cost money.

::

How would you do this?

::

Am I on the right track for this?

::

How would you create a

::

scenario where if you

::

wanted to give this

::

template or this site out to 100 kids...

::

Yeah,

::

this exact scenario cropped up on the

::

product forums.

::

Maybe it was you that posted it.

::

I don't even know.

::

Probably.

::

But yeah,

::

and the solution was what you're

::

currently doing is the solution,

::

the best solution we could make.

::

Because when you make the

::

sites or make the copies of the sites,

::

you by default are the

::

owner of that site.

::

And the student can't go and

::

remove you as the owner.

::

So you have that security knowing,

::

you know,

::

I always have access to this site,

::

to the student site.

::

Yeah.

::

Yeah.

::

So otherwise you're putting

::

too much control and

::

freedom in and sort of, you know,

::

some question as to whether

::

the student's going to

::

follow up on sharing it to

::

you or putting it in the

::

folder or whatever.

::

It's hard enough to get the

::

kids to do the assignments

::

I'm giving them through Classroom,

::

but at least I can look and say, hey, mom,

::

hey, administrator, the kid didn't do it.

::

But to have the situation

::

where maybe the kid was working,

::

but they didn't share it

::

with you or they didn't

::

share it with you the right way or,

::

you know,

::

it's going to take me a lot of

::

time to do this.

::

I don't want to do it.

::

But at the same time,

::

I want them to have

::

something where they're –

::

we're going to do a project

::

where we're making a logo.

::

Great.

::

The logo goes on the website.

::

They're going to make a banner.

::

The banner goes on the website.

::

We're building out this

::

little monster throughout

::

the semester here.

::

And I love doing this.

::

I just hate this part of the process.

::

You don't like the 100 copies process?

::

No.

::

I understand that.

::

I'm sorry.

::

I can't help you anymore.

::

I know for the last 12 years

::

we've been crying for

::

page-level permissions,

::

but the teacher in me is saying,

::

I'll take Google Classroom

::

integration any day.

::

Please let us know.

::

So Kyle,

::

when you talk to your Google friends,

::

please push that one up there.

::

Kyle, look,

::

clearly we're nerding out about

::

all this stuff.

::

But if you're out there

::

still listening to this show,

::

we would love to hear from you guys.

::

Please feel free to reach out.

::

Kyle,

::

where can we hear more about the

::

great things that you're

::

doing over at Kirksville Web Design?

::

My website is kirksvillewebdesign.com.

::

So I would follow that.

::

I mean,

::

from there you can find anything

::

else social media wise.

::

Nice.

::

And of course,

::

you can find us over at teachercast.net.

::

All of our instructional

::

coaching stuff is over at

::

askthetechcoach.com.

::

We are going to be creating

::

a ton of content.

::

We're going to be doing some

::

Google Sites tutorials and

::

making sure that you guys

::

have all that you need for

::

your coaching program.

::

And that wraps up episode

::

number 254 of Ask the Tech Coach.

::

On behalf of Kyle and

::

everybody here on the

::

TeacherCast Educational Network,

::

my name is Jeff Bradbury,

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reminding you guys to keep

::

up the great work in your

::

classrooms and continue

::

sharing your passions.

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