If you’re a website designer or developer who’s invested in coaching and still feels stuck, this episode is for you.
I’ve been hearing from so many designers who say
“I tried coaching, I’m burned out, and my business still doesn’t feel sustainable.”
In this episode I’m breaking down the real reasons coaching often doesn’t work for website designers, and why mentoring can be a better fit when you need practical, industry specific support.
I talk about:
• the key difference between coaching and mentoring
• why “you already have the answers” can feel infuriating when you’re in client chaos
• how industry specific advice helps with things like tricky feedback, scope creep and boundaries
• what it looks like to be supported while you level up without burning out
I’ll also share how I work with designers and developers inside my Phoenix programme and through one to one mentoring, so you can decide what kind of support is right for you.
👉 Want mentoring that actually understands the realities of running a web design business?
Come and find out more at websitesmadesimple.co.uk or email me at [email protected]
Happy designing!
00:00 Coach vs. Mentor: Key Differences
06:04 "Mastering Best Practices Confidently"
08:50 Mentoring for Thriving Designers
10:40 "Connect for Design Insights"
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A coach, a little bit like therapy, but not quite therapy. We
Speaker:do our best work when we're out of our comfort zone. As a mentor,
Speaker:I'm not going to waste your time suggesting that you
Speaker:explore or scope out something that I know from personal experience
Speaker:does not work.
Speaker:At the moment, I'm speaking to a lot of website designers who
Speaker:are saying to me, I've recently had coaching, or I've had coaching
Speaker:in the last year. I know I needed to do something in my business and
Speaker:the coaching didn't work. And I feel like I'm burnt out.
Speaker:And I feel like I've kind of lost faith in
Speaker:how to run my business in a model where I can scale it,
Speaker:where I can take some more time out of it, and where I can actually
Speaker:really enjoy it again. And I really
Speaker:hear you. I really feel for you. And so, so
Speaker:many people have been there. And I wanted to record this
Speaker:podcast episode for you because I wanted to say, don't
Speaker:give up. Please don't give up, because there is the
Speaker:right solution for you out there. And I thought I would use this
Speaker:episode to walk through a few of the
Speaker:points in why this possibly hasn't worked for you
Speaker:and how we can turn that around.
Speaker:Hi, for anyone who doesn't know me, I am Holly Christie. I am the host
Speaker:of this podcast, Websites Made simple, and I am a
Speaker:website designer, a website designer's mentor, and
Speaker:developers. I mentor you too, and I am here to help
Speaker:you have the best career that you can
Speaker:have doing what you love. So let's get
Speaker:started.
Speaker:So the one thing that has come up is that people
Speaker:say about, you know, I went to work with a coach, and
Speaker:I get it. There are coaches everywhere. I build so
Speaker:many websites for coaches. I really do know,
Speaker:like, how that message is being put to us, particularly freelancers,
Speaker:all the time. You need coaching for this, you need coaching for that. And it's
Speaker:really easy to fall down the spiral of someone's content and think, oh, yeah,
Speaker:I really like them. I feel like I've got to know them. It's time to
Speaker:go and work with them. And one of the things that I would
Speaker:say people are probably in our industry making
Speaker:the first mistake with is that they're working with a coach instead of a
Speaker:mentor. And the difference between this is that
Speaker:coaching is very much you have your own
Speaker:answers and the coach is there to help you
Speaker:unlock them. And in doing that, they can help you
Speaker:overcome obstacles, they can help you do some brilliant
Speaker:things and increase your confidence and find these answers. And it's
Speaker:Fantastic. But when you're a website designer, the chances
Speaker:are that what you need is mentoring. Where someone says,
Speaker:I've been where you are, I know what the industry
Speaker:is like, I know the problems that you're facing and whether that's growing
Speaker:your business or whether that's with a really sticky layout that you just
Speaker:can't quite get right, or everything that comes in between with
Speaker:that. And that is what mentoring is. Coaching. They're not meant to give
Speaker:advice. They are meant to just listen and ask
Speaker:questions. And they sometimes will use work models and worksheets and stuff which
Speaker:will help to kind of challenge you and stretch you and help you to really
Speaker:explore those answers. But they can't give you advice.
Speaker:If you've been listening to this podcast for a while, you will
Speaker:know that I give a lot of advice. And one of those
Speaker:things is because I am a mentor, so I can and I've been you and
Speaker:I've lived you. And I don't want you to have to do
Speaker:that all by yourself and feel really at lost of it. Or I also
Speaker:don't want you to have the hideous experiences that I had along the way that
Speaker:kind of formulates that basis of this advice as
Speaker:well.
Speaker:What you won't know about me because it's from qualification
Speaker:from even before my website designing days is that I trained in
Speaker:counseling so skills as well. And so I also
Speaker:know how to really listen and use those guided questions as well to
Speaker:support you in being heard,
Speaker:in finding those answers and having the confidence that it's not
Speaker:just about saying this is what you need to do now go off and do
Speaker:it. It's about really supporting you in the best way that that works
Speaker:for you as well. I always say, like, no two websites.
Speaker:If I went and built a website and you went and built a website and
Speaker:we were using all the same materials, we would not build
Speaker:the same website. And that's the case with mentoring
Speaker:and coaching as well, is that you won't be getting the same advice. So when
Speaker:you work with me, you'd be getting the advice that really works for
Speaker:you and helps support you in getting to the next level.
Speaker:Doing it, I would say within your comfort zone. But we do our best
Speaker:work when we're out of our comfort zone. What I will say is that I
Speaker:can absolutely support you every step of the way with that as
Speaker:well. So a coach also doesn't
Speaker:have an industry specific experience, so they're
Speaker:not able to really take some of the issues that we face
Speaker:within the industry and really advise you on how to deal with that
Speaker:as well. And that's quite a big one because when you get a client, come
Speaker:back and say, I don't like the draft of this website,
Speaker:sorry, or, you know, I don't want to stick to your terms of service,
Speaker:or I date this, that or the other. What you need is on the ground
Speaker:help then and there. You don't need someone saying, well,
Speaker:what do you feel your answer should be for that? Or how did that make
Speaker:you feel? You need someone who can say, right, okay, what would you like the
Speaker:outcome of this to be? And for us to be able to go through and
Speaker:work on that outcome and get that outcome, achieve it together. As
Speaker:a mentor, I will support you to working to best
Speaker:practices all of the time. I am absolutely known
Speaker:for not cutting corners. And that doesn't mean that we do
Speaker:everything longhand all of the way. There are lots of tips
Speaker:and tricks that I can teach you and, you know, whether that's
Speaker:kind of cloning pages and saving containers and sending stuff up
Speaker:to the cloud and drawing it back down from the cloud and really kind of
Speaker:honing those practices. But it means that when you are
Speaker:working to best practices all of the time, you know that
Speaker:you can be confident in, in not only what you are delivering to your
Speaker:clients, but to the skills that you're learning and you're
Speaker:embedding as well. You know, once you start doing something really well one way, you
Speaker:will continue to do that really well all the way
Speaker:through. So I will support you in doing that as well.
Speaker:And going back to that point where I said about we all do things differently,
Speaker:we all run our businesses slightly differently as well. And as a mentor, I'm
Speaker:not here to say to you, you've got to do this like the way I
Speaker:do it, or you've got to use the tools I use, or you've got to
Speaker:do this, that, and the other, I can, of course, make recommendations as
Speaker:to what tools I use. I think there's a podcast episode back in
Speaker:the backlogs which talk to you about what tools I use, what the essential
Speaker:ones I feel are. But what I'm looking to do when I'm working
Speaker:with you is, is look at building on the stuff
Speaker:that's really worked for you. So you might think, right, I've got this
Speaker:set up nailed. This is what I want to work in. And then we're going
Speaker:to go and develop that and say, okay, that's brilliant. You know, how can
Speaker:we then bring that to the market in a way that's going to get you
Speaker:more business, that's going to keep your clients happy, that's going to feel very productive
Speaker:for you. And we all, especially because we work in
Speaker:such a creative industry, we have so many ideas and that
Speaker:can be for running our businesses as well as projects
Speaker:and things like that. And I'm going to
Speaker:encourage you to scope out those ideas as well. I work
Speaker:with coaches. I had a coach a few years ago when I really wanted
Speaker:to level up. She was absolutely amazing. Every time I came up with an
Speaker:idea, she would say, go and scope it out. And I would go and scope
Speaker:it out and I would know which ones were worth pursuing because
Speaker:I would action them, I would take action on them. So we
Speaker:will look at doing that as well and some of them will naturally
Speaker:fall by the wayside. So when you've had coaching in the
Speaker:past and you've said, I feel like I've been burned, I feel like it hasn't
Speaker:worked, all that sort of stuff, you're not going to get that when
Speaker:you're working with me because we're not going to get to a point where you
Speaker:feel like none of this is working and it is just hopeless.
Speaker:I'm going to really support you with some really industry specific stuff that's
Speaker:going to get you to the next level and it works. Not only have I
Speaker:done this for myself, but I mentor handfuls of
Speaker:website designers and developers every year and they've all
Speaker:gone on to grow their business, they've gone on to niche, they've gone on to
Speaker:get specific skill sets and they are all thriving. And you
Speaker:can thrive too.
Speaker:Finally with coaching, and you've probably had this, and it's just following
Speaker:on from the last point is that coaches can sometimes gloss over when there's been
Speaker:something that's not worked well because they don't know how to fix it.
Speaker:And again, with mentoring, we can fix it. Because we're
Speaker:not going to gloss over if something hasn't worked. We'll look at why it hasn't
Speaker:worked. If we're scoping something else and I'm telling you that's
Speaker:not going to work, I will also tell you why it's not going to work.
Speaker:And then of course, if you want to then push forward and say, no, I
Speaker:really want to try and develop this, then we will look at the most viable
Speaker:and practical way of developing it together. So if you feel
Speaker:that you would like to give it another go, you would like to get back
Speaker:in the saddle and really develop your website design
Speaker:business, but you'd like to do it with some industry specific support.
Speaker:You could look at my Phoenix program. That is a nine month program
Speaker:for websites, developers and designers. It is there to
Speaker:support them in leveling up, growing their business, making a name for themselves
Speaker:and loving what they do. It's also designed to help you to
Speaker:be able to step away from your business a little bit so that you can
Speaker:make more money but also have some more free time. If you're a
Speaker:little bit nervous of going into a nine month program right
Speaker:now, I hear you. I totally understand why that would be the case
Speaker:and you can book one to one mentoring with me through my websites as well.
Speaker:And you just go to websitesmadesimple.co.uk you'll find
Speaker:everything you need there and I would love to hear from you. If
Speaker:you've liked what you've heard today and you would like to explore this more,
Speaker:come to the website or get in touch. You can find me at
Speaker:helloebsitesmadesimple.co.uk. i would
Speaker:love to hear from you. Until then, happy
Speaker:designing.