In this episode, Jason S. Lupoi, Ph.D. chats with Derek Chase, president of Flora + Bast Cannabis and founder of Psilouette Wellbeing. Discussion points include the stoned ape theory and the idea that psilocybin may have birthed language; why we are pointed towards addictive things like caffeine, TV, and sugar, whereas substances like cannabis and psilocybin are still scheduled I; mushrooms and end-of-life care; and the importance of optimizing one's set and setting for a psychedelic experience.