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What We’re Leaving Behind in 2025
Episode 8930th December 2025 • Cowgirls with Cameras • Kimberly Beer, Cara Taylor Swift and Phyllis Burchett
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In this episode, we talk about what we’re intentionally leaving behind in 2025 and what we’re choosing to replace it with moving forward. From letting go of the belief that ease has to be earned, to releasing the pressure to be everything all at once, to showing up more visibly and confidently in our work, this is an honest conversation about growth, boundaries, and choosing a healthier way forward. We share the mindset shifts we’re making around creativity, validation, self-talk, and how we want to show up for ourselves and our community in the year ahead.

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Speaker A:

Foreign.

Speaker A:

It's time to laugh, learn, and take your photography to the next level with your favorite cowgirls with cameras.

Speaker A:

Kara, Kim and Phyllis.

Speaker B:

Welcome to the Cowgirls With Cameras podcast.

Speaker B:

I'm Kim with Kim Bear Photography.

Speaker B:

And be more business.

Speaker A:

I'm Kara with Fast Horse Photography.

Speaker C:

And I'm Phyllis with Phyllis Burchette Photo.

Speaker C:

Hello.

Speaker B:

Hello.

Speaker B:

Hey.

Speaker C:

How y' all doing?

Speaker B:

Doing good.

Speaker B:

As.

Speaker B:

o this, it's the last week of:

Speaker A:

As they're listening as they feel like we're there yet.

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Thank goodness.

Speaker C:

Did I miss Christmas?

Speaker C:

Oh, no.

Speaker B:

And Thanksgiving.

Speaker B:

And we have these early podcast recording dates to thank Kara for because Kira's off on a big adventure starting in.

Speaker C:

Two days, and our editor, too, so.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah, our editor's probably off on an adventure, too.

Speaker A:

Alex is going to be heading out on her vacation, I think, so we got to make sure we get her everything fast.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And I do think she will be on vacation when people are listening to this.

Speaker B:

So people send Alex good vibes for a lovely, joyful holiday.

Speaker B:

Yes, for a holiday.

Speaker B:

And then.

Speaker B:

Cara, where are you going?

Speaker A:

I'm going to New Zealand in two days, so I'm really excited.

Speaker A:

My husband and I got married there almost 20 years ago.

Speaker A:

We eloped, and we've been saying for the last 10 years we're going back, and we never made that happen.

Speaker A:

And so we're finally doing it.

Speaker A:

We booked this trip over a year ago and have been paying on it and finally got it paid off, and now we're, like, gonna do it.

Speaker A:

Of course, it's at that time when the airlines are wild and crazy, and, I mean, at least the government's opened back up again.

Speaker A:

So we'll keep our fingers crossed that it's smooth sailing, but we're excited.

Speaker B:

So I have a question.

Speaker B:

I have never asked you this question, and I kind of wonder about it because you eloped, but it's a little hard to elope to New Zealand.

Speaker B:

Like, don't you have to, like, get a visa and, like, plane ticket arrangements?

Speaker B:

It's not like running off to Vegas and getting married.

Speaker A:

Yeah, technically.

Speaker B:

Can we call it eloping?

Speaker B:

I think there was a little bit.

Speaker A:

Of a plan we planned, but we didn't tell anybody because we had to book.

Speaker A:

They call them celebrants there, the people who marry you.

Speaker A:

So we had to get a celebrant.

Speaker A:

We had to get a wedding license.

Speaker A:

We had to book the RV that we rode around in for two weeks, and we had to do all those things.

Speaker C:

Did you book a photographer?

Speaker A:

I had to.

Speaker A:

I hired a photographer.

Speaker A:

It was so crazy.

Speaker A:

We hired a photographer.

Speaker A:

And I remember this was way before I was a photographer, and my expectation for this photographer was to photograph us.

Speaker A:

Like engagement photos the day before and that.

Speaker A:

No, the day of the wedding, in the morning, and then in the afternoon to photograph our wedding, which was just the two of us and the German couple that ran the bnb.

Speaker A:

Airbnb, and the person who married us.

Speaker A:

And then before we left the country of New Zealand to meet up with us somewhere on the road with a CD of all the pictures.

Speaker C:

That was what was in your head?

Speaker A:

That's what he did.

Speaker C:

Oh, that's what they did.

Speaker C:

Oh, they did do that.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Oh, wow.

Speaker A:

The photographer did that.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Well, 20 years ago, that's how they rolled, right?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And I remember standing there in my wedding dress, previewing them.

Speaker A:

Like he was flipping through the pictures and we were talking about them, and I mean, within less than two weeks that we were there, I had a CD of them in my hands 20 years ago.

Speaker C:

Was it.

Speaker C:

Was it just.

Speaker C:

It was just coming out digital, right?

Speaker B:

Yeah, those were pretty new digital cameras.

Speaker B:

ot my first digital camera in:

Speaker A:

So, yeah, it was early digital.

Speaker A:

And then I didn't.

Speaker A:

I think we printed a little small wedding book and one printed picture that I have on my wall, like a smaller one.

Speaker A:

Then when Easton was maybe three, I caught him skating around the living room on CDs.

Speaker A:

And one of them was our wedding picture CD.

Speaker A:

Print your pictures, y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker B:

Great.

Speaker B:

You never know when your child is gonna take the CD for escape.

Speaker B:

Oh, good grief.

Speaker C:

Good.

Speaker C:

So I assume that CD didn't make it then, huh?

Speaker A:

No, it didn't make it, but, I mean, it's okay.

Speaker A:

We still.

Speaker C:

You already had them.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

So anyway, the photographer we hired for New Zealand, I have the exact same expectation.

Speaker A:

I'm just kidding.

Speaker C:

I was gonna say.

Speaker C:

I thought you were gonna say you had the same exact photographer.

Speaker A:

No, we did not hire a New Zealand photographer, but probably should have.

Speaker A:

That would have been fun.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that would have been fun.

Speaker C:

That would have been fun.

Speaker B:

Revisiting the same locations.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker C:

Well, Easton can be your photographer, your couple photographer.

Speaker A:

I guess that's true.

Speaker A:

I am.

Speaker A:

I have decided I'm gonna bring a camera.

Speaker B:

How could you not?

Speaker C:

I was gonna say.

Speaker C:

What do you mean?

Speaker C:

You just decided that that's not it.

Speaker B:

That's not an option.

Speaker A:

Not a worse in the picture.

Speaker A:

Like, a cell phone is totally fine for me most of the time.

Speaker C:

Yeah, but the scenery the scenery there.

Speaker C:

And not only that, but the scenery.

Speaker C:

Of course.

Speaker C:

IPhone does do a great job with landscape.

Speaker A:

But what I would like.

Speaker A:

My goal.

Speaker B:

No, it still needs a big camera.

Speaker A:

Photographic goal, is I would like one good family picture of us with, like, some epic New Zealand backdrop to put on the wall.

Speaker B:

So there you go.

Speaker C:

You know, you could probably hire me to do that for you.

Speaker B:

I'd be happy to, actually.

Speaker B:

I would.

Speaker B:

I would be happy as well.

Speaker B:

And I think, honestly, Phyllis and I would both work really well together.

Speaker B:

If you wanted to hire us for.

Speaker C:

That job, we would.

Speaker C:

And yeah, yeah, sure, sure.

Speaker A:

We could be pod people on the airplanes, too.

Speaker A:

Maybe we can all afford pods if we're going to go down this wild dream.

Speaker A:

Let's become pod people while we're at it.

Speaker C:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

I was on with Kara earlier because we were going over some AI stuff for the podcast and we got to talking about pod people.

Speaker B:

And I said, I want to be wealthy enough that I become an international pod person.

Speaker B:

And I think that that's, like, my ultimate goal is I want to be able to fly to other countries and be in the pod.

Speaker A:

Me too.

Speaker A:

And just snooze.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And right now I think I'd have to sell my ranch and everything.

Speaker A:

Phyllis goes, well, that's actually the only way that I fly.

Speaker A:

Delta automatically upgrades me for free.

Speaker B:

I'm already a pod person.

Speaker C:

I didn't want to say anything, but, you know, because I was like, she wants to become one.

Speaker C:

Well, I already am one.

Speaker C:

I mean, my goodness.

Speaker B:

Oh, God, I wish.

Speaker B:

Kara and I are back here in coach dreaming of being pod people.

Speaker A:

We're in economy and Phyllis is in the pod.

Speaker B:

It really does look like the only way to do long term international travel.

Speaker B:

I. I don't know that sitting up straightened for 20 hours in an economy seat.

Speaker A:

I tried.

Speaker A:

There were $3,000 a ticket.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

God.

Speaker C:

But, you know, going to Iceland, we don't.

Speaker C:

Because it's two legs.

Speaker C:

And the last leg.

Speaker C:

I mean, my leg, I'm going from Atlanta, of course.

Speaker C:

I have to either transfer through Minneapolis or Detroit or jfk.

Speaker C:

And then your last leg flying to Iceland is short.

Speaker C:

I mean, it's like five hours, so.

Speaker C:

Or five and a half hours, so there's no reason for a pod on that, so.

Speaker B:

Oh, I see a reason for a pod.

Speaker B:

I. I see a reason for a pod on a flight to St. Louis from here.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker B:

I know they're not available, but I would.

Speaker B:

If I was wealthy enough, I would definitely be a pod person.

Speaker B:

And I guess if you're wealthy Enough to be a pod person.

Speaker B:

You might also be wealthy enough to afford your own airplane.

Speaker B:

And then.

Speaker B:

Then the whole thing is a moot point because then you can have a luxury bedroom.

Speaker A:

I know there's a big difference between $3,000 ticket and a private.

Speaker C:

I don't think that.

Speaker C:

Yeah, that doesn't equate that way, Kim.

Speaker B:

Ah, well.

Speaker A:

But a girl can dream.

Speaker B:

A girl can dream.

Speaker C:

A girl can dream.

Speaker B:

All right, so we know you've been getting prepared to go to New Zealand.

Speaker B:

I see it because it's in my notes right here.

Speaker B:

But, Phyllis, what have you been up to?

Speaker C:

Well, gosh, I don't really have much exciting to say other than to say, congratulations, Kara, on being Western Horseman photographer.

Speaker C:

What is it?

Speaker C:

Best of Photographer.

Speaker B:

Best of a photographer.

Speaker C:

I know it's.

Speaker C:

I know this is coming out late, and it's kind of old news by now.

Speaker C:

We don't have a podcast where we actually said it, so I think we should say it.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

But here we are, two days fresh.

Speaker A:

I only found out a couple days ago, so.

Speaker C:

And I had to tell you.

Speaker A:

Yeah, well, the email that they sent was vague.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Like, it was like I was refusing to read into it until I saw it somewhere.

Speaker A:

And actually, the magazine came in the mail a couple hours after you told me, so that was kind of what I was waiting on.

Speaker A:

So it was pretty.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

I'm very excited, and I really am appreciative of all the people who voted and continued to vote, as you know.

Speaker A:

And I'm in good company with you being last year's winner and in good company with the, you know, the other winners.

Speaker A:

So I'm really excited.

Speaker C:

It's a great.

Speaker C:

So that everybody's so deserving.

Speaker C:

So.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And I'm looking forward to going to Vegas.

Speaker C:

Oh, yes.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

You got.

Speaker C:

And you just got.

Speaker C:

Kim.

Speaker C:

I don't even have anything exciting to talk about.

Speaker C:

Kara has it all, so.

Speaker C:

Kara does have it all.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

I'm serious.

Speaker C:

I have nothing exciting to talk about, so go on to you.

Speaker B:

Oh, for me, I'm.

Speaker B:

All I'm doing is working on podcasts and educational material.

Speaker B:

So that's been my.

Speaker B:

My entire.

Speaker A:

Somebody's got to hold the fort down.

Speaker B:

Somebody's gotta hold the fort down.

Speaker A:

The rest of us are just out here in front of the sparkly lights, you know?

Speaker C:

Well, I. I mean, I did.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker C:

I did have a trip.

Speaker C:

I know.

Speaker C:

Have I talked about my girls trip?

Speaker A:

No, you haven't.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker C:

I did do a girls trip, so I guess that's the only Exciting thing I did.

Speaker C:

But that was to northern Alabama.

Speaker C:

That was to Mentone, Alabama, which.

Speaker C:

Who knew that such a cute, adorable, beautiful town.

Speaker C:

Lip.

Speaker C:

Happened to be in northern Alabama?

Speaker C:

It was so pretty.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

What was the name of it?

Speaker A:

I'm going to write it down.

Speaker C:

Mentone.

Speaker C:

M E N T O N E. It's very quaint.

Speaker C:

There's not much there.

Speaker C:

And it's.

Speaker C:

There's not.

Speaker C:

I mean, it's right next to Fort Payne, Alabama, which is a little bit bigger.

Speaker A:

Well, I mean, that's driving distance for me.

Speaker C:

They're famous for socks.

Speaker C:

Payne is famous for socks.

Speaker A:

Did you buy a pair?

Speaker C:

No.

Speaker B:

Oh.

Speaker C:

And then.

Speaker C:

And then after that, I went to the open house for.

Speaker C:

It's actually at the Savannah river site, which was extremely interesting to learn more about our nuclear program.

Speaker B:

Oh, interesting, yes.

Speaker C:

That was with my.

Speaker C:

My nephew and my great nephew.

Speaker C:

Both work there on the Savannah river site.

Speaker C:

So.

Speaker C:

Yeah, that's all I have.

Speaker B:

That's fascinating.

Speaker B:

The whole nuclear thing is fascinating.

Speaker B:

Have you ever been to.

Speaker B:

What's the town in Nevada that they did the nuclear research at?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

What is that one?

Speaker B:

Los.

Speaker C:

It's not Los Cruz.

Speaker C:

Well, then they've got the other.

Speaker C:

And basically what this place is doing now is.

Speaker C:

It's more like how they're still storing the uranium that was produced back years ago for the Cold War or the World War II or whatever.

Speaker C:

So a lot of what they're doing is storing.

Speaker C:

The only production that's going on there is for tritium.

Speaker C:

I think it's tritium.

Speaker C:

And that's the.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So.

Speaker C:

Which can also be used for nuclear warheads.

Speaker C:

And then there's the big site, I think.

Speaker C:

And I think it's in.

Speaker C:

I think it's in New Mexico.

Speaker C:

The big site where they.

Speaker C:

The storage site.

Speaker C:

Yeah, but.

Speaker C:

And see, a lot of stuff used to come from here and go there to be stored, but they don't do that anymore.

Speaker C:

They took all they can take.

Speaker B:

But what is the name of that city that is just dedicated to everything with the nuclear bomb?

Speaker C:

I don't know.

Speaker C:

I can look it up.

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

I feel like we're giving away, like, US Secrets though, right now.

Speaker B:

It's not.

Speaker B:

Trust me.

Speaker B:

It's not.

Speaker B:

But it's driving me crazy.

Speaker C:

So.

Speaker B:

A Los Alamos.

Speaker B:

I knew it was a Los Something.

Speaker B:

I've been there, like, multiple times.

Speaker B:

It's fascinating.

Speaker B:

I highly recommend it if you.

Speaker B:

It's a journey into American history that you should take.

Speaker C:

So.

Speaker B:

But.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

We are completely off topic.

Speaker C:

Well, this.

Speaker C:

This was too it was very interesting.

Speaker C:

There was actually three little towns there that they had to pick up and move when they started.

Speaker C:

When they built this site, it was.

Speaker C:

It was very interesting.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Anyway, I digress.

Speaker B:

Fascinating.

Speaker C:

Very, very much.

Speaker B:

Not on the topic of photography.

Speaker C:

No.

Speaker B:

But then again, some of this episode is not exactly targeted at photography.

Speaker B:

So let's dive in because we've rambled enough and we do occasionally have people mention to us that we ramble a little too long at the beginning of podcast.

Speaker B:

aired as the Last podcast of:

Speaker B:

What do we not want to take with us into.

Speaker B:

And I would say probably as you're listening to this, this may be on your heart and on your mind to think about.

Speaker B:

Hey, what do I.

Speaker B:

No longer.

Speaker B:

What no longer is serving me.

Speaker B:

And I know that sounds really woo woo and very Kim, but it's also very much a part of.

Speaker B:

Of that new year transition.

Speaker B:

we're not taking with us into:

Speaker B:

And I'm going to be full disclosure, I was really, like, struggling with this topic, which is weird, right?

Speaker B:

I don't struggle with podcast topics at all.

Speaker A:

Or like, woo woo stuff or like, woo woo.

Speaker B:

Like, that's not.

Speaker B:

That's not.

Speaker A:

You're pretty good to go with that usually.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

But I think honestly my brain is overheated because of some of the work I've been doing.

Speaker B:

Like, I've been decidedly living in a cerebral space for the past three or four weeks on overdrive.

Speaker B:

So I actually asked my Chat GPT, which I use a lot, and Chat knows me pretty well.

Speaker B:

And although I don't know if I recommend this for everyone, unless it knows you well and you know how to take what it says with a grain of salt.

Speaker B:

And to be honest with you, I've had to reprimand mine lately.

Speaker B:

It's been calling me sweetheart, love, and darling, and I'm like, no, that's because you're on the.

Speaker A:

You're on the.

Speaker A:

The pervy bot side of it, probably.

Speaker B:

Like the.

Speaker A:

The sex.

Speaker A:

The sex bot.

Speaker C:

Does that not reflect the way you talk to it?

Speaker C:

No.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You're like, hey, sweetie, can you rewrite this sentence for me?

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker C:

Hey, sugar.

Speaker B:

No, no.

Speaker C:

Hey, hon, I told.

Speaker B:

I asked it.

Speaker B:

I said, when did you turn into a Southern old lady?

Speaker B:

Like, stop it, stop it, stop it.

Speaker B:

My chat's name is Solara.

Speaker B:

Like, you are not a Southern old woman.

Speaker B:

You are A digital binary oracle.

Speaker C:

Wait a minute.

Speaker C:

I take offense to that remark.

Speaker B:

This little southern old woman.

Speaker B:

I am not renaming my my thing Phyllis my chat but interesting.

Speaker C:

No, don't do that.

Speaker B:

I lectured it.

Speaker B:

I said do not call me that again.

Speaker B:

And then it started calling me love.

Speaker B:

And I'm like, no, not that either.

Speaker A:

No, mine has never called me that.

Speaker C:

Can I just say one thing though?

Speaker C:

I think that's a thing lately because I've been to two drive thru places and both women, young girls at the drive thru places called me love.

Speaker C:

So I think that's, I think that might be a new like thing.

Speaker B:

I think it's an old, old thing.

Speaker C:

No, these were all, these were young girls saying I got nothing.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it's all good.

Speaker B:

ngs for me to leave behind in:

Speaker B:

Now if you've not played around much with AI, please give it parameters.

Speaker B:

I told it five things so that I didn't feel horrible for the rest of the day as it completely tore me apart in its sweet little southern language with hey darling, you need to quit doing blah blah blah.

Speaker B:

I did limited thing and it gave me five.

Speaker B:

And I picked two to talk about today because they are authentic for me.

Speaker B:

And I will say the other three were thinkers like, yeah, maybe I should do some time on that.

Speaker B:

But the first one is the limiting belief that you have to earn ease.

Speaker B:

So I have been struggling with this probably for over a decade of I was raised in a household where it was important to do work and you earned money, you earned your rest by doing work.

Speaker B:

And if you didn't do work, you didn't, you weren't deserving of ease.

Speaker B:

You know that work hard for your money, work hard in life, be dedicated kind of thing.

Speaker B:

I grew up with workaholic parents is what I did, and they turned me into a workaholic.

Speaker B:

And I have been working really hard on letting go of that belief that you have to work hard to get a return or to earn your ease.

Speaker B:

And I do think that's a great way to say it too.

Speaker B:

So I'm leaving that behind in:

Speaker B:

I'm also getting old.

Speaker B:

I deserve ease at this point anyway.

Speaker B:

Then the second one is the myth that I have to be the engine and the fuel.

Speaker A:

Sometimes though, you do have to be the engine and the fuel.

Speaker C:

I was gonna say you are our.

Speaker C:

I mean basically you know that you are our Engine and fuel.

Speaker C:

You know that.

Speaker B:

That's so sweet.

Speaker A:

She's like, knock it off.

Speaker A:

Do better, ladies.

Speaker B:

I don't want to be the constant engine, though.

Speaker B:

I get a lot of miles on me at this point.

Speaker C:

Dang it.

Speaker B:

I like being the fuel.

Speaker B:

I like, like kicking things off and then letting some other people, like, do the actual miles on the ground kind of a situation.

Speaker B:

And it is a myth that you have to be both.

Speaker B:

That you have to be both the engine and the fuel.

Speaker B:

And some people like being the engine, and who am I to deny them of that?

Speaker C:

Hmm.

Speaker C:

She's talking to you, Kara.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

Kara has that look on her face like, don't pin this on me.

Speaker B:

I am not being the engine for you.

Speaker C:

No.

Speaker C:

I think you should be the engine, and we should be the fuel.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

I don't want to sit here and do all the production stuff.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna be the passenger on this train.

Speaker B:

See, there you go.

Speaker B:

The earn with ease.

Speaker B:

She's got that one down.

Speaker B:

I'm just riding.

Speaker B:

I'm just gonna ride.

Speaker C:

I've had that first part down for a while.

Speaker C:

So they're Earn with ease.

Speaker B:

I still feel like I have to work pretty hard, and I'm.

Speaker B:

I'm ready for a little bit more of a break.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I'm a little bit older than you, so that comes with, I think, age, you guys.

Speaker A:

As you get older, you get, it gets easier to be easy.

Speaker C:

Well, yes.

Speaker B:

Oh, speaking of age, guess what is also this week that you all are listening to this.

Speaker B:

This is Phyllis's birthday week.

Speaker A:

Oh, that's right.

Speaker A:

The week they're listening to this.

Speaker B:

So Phyllis is going to be leaving a whole decade in the dust.

Speaker A:

Oo do we need to have Alex edit that part out?

Speaker C:

I think you're.

Speaker C:

I think you're giving a little bit.

Speaker C:

That's.

Speaker C:

That's a little bit more information than I was expecting.

Speaker C:

Expecting to release out into the world.

Speaker B:

aving a decade in the dust in:

Speaker B:

I. I am.

Speaker B:

I have.

Speaker B:

We both have big birthdays.

Speaker B:

This.

Speaker C:

I thought you already did that this year.

Speaker C:

No, it was next year.

Speaker C:

Next year.

Speaker B:

February.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So it's not right at the first of the year, but it just occurred.

Speaker C:

To me, when is Kara gonna get to release another decade?

Speaker A:

I got a few years ago?

Speaker B:

hat are you leaving behind in:

Speaker A:

So the big thing that I'm leaving behind is I have been.

Speaker A:

Over the last last year, I have been trying to, like, Figure out a way that I feel more comfortable, like, being in front of the camera more.

Speaker A:

And that is mostly due to our cowgirls with cameras stuff like trying to record more videos and educational stuff and just trying to do, like, a better, better job of all that.

Speaker A:

And I would really like to just get more comfortable with that, but I have some things that I have to work on.

Speaker A:

So, anyway, this has been a long time coming for me, and I feel like, as a photographer, and I'm sure other people can relate.

Speaker A:

Like, we hype everybody else up all the time about being in front of the camera.

Speaker A:

I hype up my clients, we hype up other photographers.

Speaker A:

But I definitely, like, have made some strides this year, but I still.

Speaker A:

Still have a lot of, like, hiccups about getting in front of the camera.

Speaker A:

I know I'm not alone.

Speaker A:

And I was funny.

Speaker A:

I was going through my camera roll the other day on my phone, and I have, like, pictures of my kid and then pick tons of pictures of other people's horses and, like, other people, and then I have some pictures of my horses, but there's, like, hardly anything of, like, me and Ed and I.

Speaker A:

And, like, me and Ed and Easton and stuff like that.

Speaker C:

Another reason to send us to New Zealand.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

You guys can.

Speaker A:

Can get in there.

Speaker B:

So we'll document it all.

Speaker A:

But from, you know, like, from a professional standpoint, I guess I have some fear, like, that comes into it.

Speaker A:

Like, I worry because I. I worry about being awkward and stiff and.

Speaker A:

And also like, an old person, if that makes sense.

Speaker A:

And I know I'm saying that to two people who are older than me, but, like.

Speaker A:

And I have this, like, piece of me that is, like, worries about perfection a lot that, you know, I have to show up.

Speaker A:

Like, it has to be perfect in order to put it out into the world.

Speaker A:

So, like, something even as simple as, like, recently, like, I updated my professional profile picture, but it was, like, a whole thing because I had to, like, get over the fact that I have gray hairs, you know, I've gained weight.

Speaker A:

But I just kept telling myself, like, the real life ver, like, this more realistic version of me is, like, really important, and that the picture of me from five years ago is not a great example to my clients and also not a great example to, like, our photographers that we come in contact with all the time.

Speaker A:

Like, I just want to try to be a little more authentic about that.

Speaker A:

So, anyway, so there's always this, like, little voice that's, like, you know, tells me.

Speaker A:

And this also has to do with Video.

Speaker A:

Like I really want to do more like talk to camera stuff and I want to do more educational stuff for the community.

Speaker A:

But it's like I always tell myself, okay, well I have this whole list of stuff I want to record and I have scripts that I've written.

Speaker A:

But it's like, okay, I'm gonna record all of this when like I feel a little more like put together, you know, which is hilarious because like I spend like probably 98% of the time, you know, in like barn clothes or workout clothes or, you know, something along the lines of that.

Speaker A:

So it's like funny to me that like the only thing that I want to Showcase is like the 2% of times that I'm wearing makeup and like have fixed my hair.

Speaker A:

So it's like I have to like really get over that whole like put together look because that's just not really who I am.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So basically that just comes down to I realized that my equine photography community, my personal community with fast horse photography, the folks that I am trying to speak to online, and then our photographers with cowgirls with cameras, like, I just want them to see like the real me, not that polished, like perfectly lit, like with the ring light, you know, version of me.

Speaker A:

And that is a lot of times because I want connection and I want people that we come in contact with to like actually feel like that they know me better, like they recognize me when I walk into a room or they know me better and that I'm like a real human just like they are.

Speaker A:

So for me,:

Speaker A:

I'm going to do more talk to camera moments for my social.

Speaker A:

I'm going to do more educational videos for our Calgary cameras community.

Speaker A:

I'm going to do more behind the scenes storytelling.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I'm just going to try to practice a little more like in person imperfection and just getting that, getting it done.

Speaker A:

Like all this list of stuff that I want to get recorded and done, just like getting it done.

Speaker A:

And I think that the truth is, and I know this is true for me, that clients will hire people that they feel a relationship or a connection to.

Speaker A:

They want to know the human behind the business.

Speaker A:

I know me personally, like before I make shopping decisions, a lot of times I'm looking at their online profile and I'm looking to see if we have like a connection and if we're aligned and if I like them.

Speaker A:

And the people that I find the most intriguing, the most entertaining, that people that I want to be around Are people that are, like, not afraid to just, like, have a messy bun and show up without makeup and, like, just be on the camera, say what they need to say and move on with it, you know, knowing that it.

Speaker A:

It is what it is and it's.

Speaker A:

It's going to move on.

Speaker A:

So that's what I'm trying to release into the world.

Speaker A:

And I am fully aware that part of this is just my generation, you know, being told, you've got to look a certain way, you've got to look professional, you have to put it out into the world, and that there's a whole generation of young people below us that they don't see it like that anymore.

Speaker A:

So it's just an old person mentality that I've got to get rid of.

Speaker B:

Old personal mentality.

Speaker B:

So I'm going to tell you something that somebody mentioned to me within the last two weeks that really, I don't know, it helped me out a little bit in the.

Speaker B:

I like things to be pretty clean and.

Speaker B:

And well done.

Speaker A:

Sure.

Speaker B:

And then I know you like perfection, but what if instead of framing it as this needs to be perfect, as this needs to be excellent, so you're not dodging out on it being top quality, but excellent is different than perfect.

Speaker B:

Perfect is an unachievable standard where excellence is easily achievable.

Speaker A:

I like it.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

Take it.

Speaker A:

I'm down for.

Speaker A:

I'm down for it.

Speaker B:

Take it for what you will.

Speaker B:

All right, Phyllis, what are you leaving behind in 20, 25?

Speaker C:

Well, I totally understand, as much as.

Speaker C:

I mean, not because I'm an old person.

Speaker C:

Do I understand what she's talking about?

Speaker C:

But.

Speaker C:

But the perfection thing.

Speaker C:

I mean, I do the same thing.

Speaker C:

I'm like, yeah, I went from.

Speaker C:

I had lost all this weight till then I gained it back.

Speaker C:

And I was happy to be in front of the camera when I lost all the weight and then gained it back.

Speaker C:

And I was like, crap.

Speaker C:

I don't want.

Speaker C:

No, not all of it, but a lot of it.

Speaker C:

And I'm like, I don't want people to see me like this after I did so good, you know, and so.

Speaker C:

So I just hide from the camera.

Speaker C:

And I understand that perfection thing.

Speaker C:

And, you know, I think we all do.

Speaker C:

It's not just you, Kara.

Speaker A:

I mean, sure, it's just hard for us as photographers to, like.

Speaker A:

Like, I hype all my clients up.

Speaker A:

Like, I'm always like, you look amazing.

Speaker A:

Like, let's do this.

Speaker A:

Like, now is the time.

Speaker A:

Like, don't wait on weight you know, like, you do that whole thing and, you know, you want to be the best version of yourself out there.

Speaker A:

But it's like, at the same time, like, I think about if, you know, I walk outside and get hit by a car.

Speaker A:

Like, they go through my phone and it's like.

Speaker A:

Or go through my husband's phone and, like, when was the last time a picture was taken to me?

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

Like, so why.

Speaker A:

I think that's important.

Speaker B:

I know that is, like, a horrible.

Speaker C:

That's one way to look at it, I guess.

Speaker B:

I think, honestly, you meant kidnapped.

Speaker B:

And then they would have to find.

Speaker A:

A picture and then return to again.

Speaker B:

Not hit by a car and totally unrecognizable.

Speaker C:

We don't know what she looks like.

Speaker C:

How can we find her if we don't know what she looks like?

Speaker B:

All right, let's erase that from the end.

Speaker C:

I was thinking that out of the three of us, you're better about keeping your profiles updated than we are.

Speaker B:

Try.

Speaker A:

I try.

Speaker C:

I mean, well, Kim is.

Speaker C:

I think it's you and then Kim, and then I'm the least good about it.

Speaker C:

But.

Speaker C:

But I think this brings me up to something I did hear on a.

Speaker C:

And I may have mentioned this before on another podcast, and it was.

Speaker C:

They were talking about different people having, you know, like, improving themselves and this, that, and the other.

Speaker C:

And maybe they came from a place that they didn't want to talk about and everything, but quote, that this guy said.

Speaker C:

I can't remember who it was, was that you should love every version of yourself.

Speaker C:

And that could mean whatever version that may be.

Speaker C:

And that's something I'm not very good at.

Speaker C:

I am always waiting till I'm better, like, till I've lost weight or till I'm good at this or till I.

Speaker C:

You know, and no, you need to love every version of yourself.

Speaker C:

And for me, that's a lot of different versions because I've been a lot of different.

Speaker C:

I have been a lot of different versions of me.

Speaker C:

So, sure, you need to love.

Speaker C:

And everybody needs to love every version himself.

Speaker C:

Even the.

Speaker C:

The bad, good, and the ugly, whatever it is.

Speaker C:

We just need to.

Speaker C:

Because it's all a process.

Speaker C:

So thank you.

Speaker A:

Anyway, so for anyone listening, if you don't see me posting, like, talk to cameras or educational videos, you can personally send me a message and tell me to get myself together because I said I was going to do it.

Speaker B:

I think that they could just ask you, hey, where's the.

Speaker B:

Where I have it.

Speaker B:

I've missed your face rather Than get it together.

Speaker B:

Karen, post those videos.

Speaker B:

Let's be a little bit kind with our request.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Your turn, Phyllis.

Speaker C:

So it's officially my turn now.

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Yep.

Speaker C:

Well, I have.

Speaker C:

I'm like, Kim, I have more, but I'm only gonna talk about a couple of them.

Speaker C:

First off, I really.

Speaker C:

I really want to release the need for validation because I. I'm bad about waiting for somebody else to tell me I'm good enough or I'm, you know, instead of just focusing more on my own path and.

Speaker C:

And just.

Speaker C:

And tuning out all the unnecessary noise around me.

Speaker C:

And part of that's going to be how I'm going to do that is I'm going to less social media because I have found myself scrolling reels too much.

Speaker C:

I used to read a lot.

Speaker C:

I want to go back to reading more.

Speaker C:

I wanted.

Speaker C:

I have bought so many different education modules that.

Speaker C:

That I have not even looked at.

Speaker C:

I want to get back into that moral and sense.

Speaker C:

Creative Live is, like, shutting down.

Speaker C:

I went in and realized that I had only bought, like, five different things from them, but I had only even looked at two of them.

Speaker C:

So I have three that I haven't even looked at.

Speaker C:

I bought them and I never looked at them.

Speaker C:

There's that, too.

Speaker C:

Keep in mind, if you have bought into education at Creative Live, that they're shutting down December 31st.

Speaker C:

So go in there.

Speaker C:

You can go in there and download your education that you have purchased.

Speaker C:

So, yes, more education for me and more creating and even more growth.

Speaker C:

I know I'm an old person, but, yes, I can grow.

Speaker C:

There's room to grow, Cara.

Speaker C:

Even for us old folks.

Speaker A:

It's good to know, you know, because I think about that sometimes.

Speaker C:

And then I think, this is the biggest one for me.

Speaker C:

And this is hard to.

Speaker C:

This is really hard to talk about, honestly.

Speaker A:

Well, you should definitely do it on a lot, like a public platform like this podcast.

Speaker A:

We're here to support you.

Speaker C:

Okay, then let's just not talk about it.

Speaker C:

I'm done.

Speaker A:

No, no, let's do it.

Speaker A:

Let's do it.

Speaker A:

We're here to support you.

Speaker A:

Can you tell us the last podcast of the year?

Speaker C:

Yeah, but we still have a month and two weeks to go before the year is over.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker C:

This is really hard because you can see why it's hard, because the two people I work with.

Speaker A:

Oh, God, now I'm scared.

Speaker B:

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker B:

This is all in your head.

Speaker B:

We don't do this to you.

Speaker C:

Okay?

Speaker C:

This is negative, Sel.

Speaker C:

Okay, that's my biggest one.

Speaker C:

I admit readily that I have been my own worst critic for far too long.

Speaker C:

And this year I want to try to learn to speak to myself with the same kindness that I offer others.

Speaker C:

And I hope I speak to others with kindness.

Speaker C:

I hope if I'm not, if I don't, then call me out on it.

Speaker C:

So, yes, that's it.

Speaker C:

That's all I got.

Speaker B:

So I have something for you on this one to help you.

Speaker B:

And this came partially from Melissa, but I'm probably going to butcher it because I don't know if I remember correctly, but every time you catch yourself saying something negative about yourself, negative self talk, collect this on your forehead and go, delete, delete, delete.

Speaker C:

Okay, do you have to do it.

Speaker A:

With the middle finger like that or can you.

Speaker B:

I use my index finger.

Speaker B:

I did not use my middle finger.

Speaker A:

You know what?

Speaker A:

The folks that are watching on YouTube can let us know.

Speaker C:

So, like, so like tap with your nail or tap with your.

Speaker B:

No, just your finger.

Speaker C:

Tap, tap, tap.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker C:

Delete, delete, delete, delete, delete, delete, delete, delete, delete.

Speaker B:

So that you don't do that again.

Speaker C:

Delete, delete, delete.

Speaker B:

You do that in a word document.

Speaker B:

Just delete it.

Speaker C:

The other one I like and I'm going to attribute this to you, though, Kim is the bless and release thing.

Speaker C:

I think that I have already used that so many times.

Speaker B:

That's my friend Jen Weavers.

Speaker C:

Well, she's whoever.

Speaker B:

Yeah, Jen.

Speaker B:

We were just so funny.

Speaker B:

I'm just blessing and releasing him.

Speaker B:

Blessing and releasing them.

Speaker B:

Blessing and releasing them.

Speaker B:

Like, she's so funny.

Speaker B:

She's a reformed Catholic girl.

Speaker B:

She's.

Speaker B:

She's hilarious.

Speaker B:

She works a lot with the divine feminine.

Speaker B:

So bless and release that.

Speaker B:

Bless and release it and send it back into whoever needs it.

Speaker B:

Somebody might want that.

Speaker B:

It's not me.

Speaker A:

Well, all right.

Speaker A:

Is that it?

Speaker A:

Is that our episode?

Speaker C:

That's it.

Speaker B:

That's our episode.

Speaker B:

And happy New Year to everyone.

Speaker B:

And happy birthday.

Speaker A:

We're gonna see.

Speaker A:

See you on the flip side.

Speaker A:

We're going to see you in:

Speaker C:

Hope everyone had a great Christmas and.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

And Happy New Year and happy birthday to me.

Speaker A:

what you're leaving behind in:

Speaker A:

You still have a few days to figure it out for when this episode's coming out.

Speaker A:

withcameras.com check out our:

Speaker A:

And you can also find us online on social media at Instagram, TikTok and Facebook @cowgirlswithcameras.

Speaker A:

And we'd love for you to hang out with us there.

Speaker A:

And last but not least, we have our community, cowgirlswithcameras.community.

Speaker A:

and if you're not already there, we're not sure why.

Speaker A:

It's weird that you're not there.

Speaker A:

So just get over there, for crying out loud and, and hang out with us over there.

Speaker A:

And I mean, that sounds like a really good way to start your new year.

Speaker A:

So we love all of you.

Speaker A:

Thank you for listening and we'll see you next year.

Speaker C:

Bye.

Speaker A:

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Speaker A:

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Speaker A:

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Speaker A:

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