Kneel before Todd and join us for Supernatural Season 4, Episode 8 "Wishful Thinking." So put some pants on and stay visible and enjoy the tale of Tiamat, the Babylonian salty goddess.

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Plus tea parties, motherfucker. Let's do this. Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast. We're going to talk about season four, episode eight, Wishful Thinking.

I'm Diana.

Yeah, you wish you were me. You wish you were Liz. That's right. How you doing? What's going on?

All right. Doing all right. Had the multi day birthday celebration and had got to go see some friends djing at a little bar called Charlie's Star Lounge.

Was that Saturday? Was that Saturday? So, yeah, she's like, oh, I went and saw some friends DJing. You know what pictures I'm getting from this bitch?

I am getting pictures of like beer and shots of whiskey. So she's not just like, I'm just watching some friends dj. Like, someone was going hard.

Well, first of all, you did send me a picture of your. You had a fancy drink in like a, like a tiki, like, or I.

Was drinking out of a giant vagina because that's all shells are vaginas. But.

And, and then I. So I was like, well, I see your fancy drink and here's my not so fancy drink. It is my can of beer and a shot of TX whiskey.

Is that what the whiskey was? I was like, just looking at that. I was like, you loved that drink though.

It was more than one shot of CX whiskey that night.

Yeah, that shell drink was so good. And I was pretty much kind of the only one.

Like there was someone else, one other person at that dinner table drinking, but she was like, hat was sipping a cocktail so I couldn't be like, I would like another one of these shells that are meant for two people.

I think there was supposed to be two shots in there and I just like downed it in like a minute because it was like rum and fruity and I was just like, oh, I'm on the beach. Yes.

Yeah, that. And then we had to go eat. Sunday was another friend's birthday from our car clubs.

We met up and went and ate crawfish and drank beer and cruised in Duchess and it was a beautiful day.

And then now we're back to regular life and, you know, after a lovely weekend and, you know, getting ready to, you know, keep tackling household projects because that's what you do when you're adulting.

It kind of is. I'm just like, yeah, I'm back home. I'm like, what are you going to do this weekend? I'm like, I want to work on my garden.

Like, I don't want to go out. I don't want to do shit. Like, my backyard looks disgusting, and I want to spend time working on my fucking backyard.

Yeah, it's like, old people stuff. Like, our backyard went from like, oh, our grass is dead. We don't have to do anything for months to, oh, fuck, it's a jungle. And this is gross.

Yeah, no, in between.

Well, and the mystery gardeners, or whoever they were that my landlord hires, and they just come and do random shit. Like, I never know, like, what's going to happen. And they, like, weeded out the entire.

Except that you know that they're going to show up whenever you have a meeting and weed whack by the window.

Yeah, they did a lawnmower by the window today. Or, like, I'll be, like, naked somewhere and then just be like, what is your face doing in my window? Why are you here? Get away from my boobs, man.

But, like, it's like, it's a really good time for me to pull some shit out of there. I don't like. But, like, it requires, like, there's, like, thistle things and other stuff, and it's like, it's gonna be a thing.

And for those of you who don't understand the wonders of Texas, where I think it was freezing last week, and this week, it's gonna be 95.

It was. It was. It was about 90 here today. Yeah. And we're gonna get down to the 40s again later this week.

So that's.

So tell us about your last weekend. That's what I want to hear about.

So I jetted off to the magical land of San Francisco and met up with some friends and did some killer shopping. I got some. I, like, scored in this. Like, I don't explain it.

Like, I guess I do sort of like a flea market antique mall, you know what I'm talking about? Where everyone has, like, a different consignment area, and then you kind of go through. But it's a nicer version of that.

That's, like, right near the Castro in San Francisco. And it was, like, the last spot I wanted to get to that day.

And I'd already spent a dumb amount of money on this, like, gorgeous spiderweb silver necklace, mainly also because I was really stupid. And when I read the tag, it said 50. I thought it said $50, but it said $500. And I have too much pride to be like, fuck, fuck.

I Don't. But I know you. I know you.

Yeah, there's a really pretty necklace. So now I have a piece. But now I have to find a way to sleep anyways, so.

And also, what was funny was in the store, one of either the people who work there or owners, whatever, like, came up was like, oh, have you been here before? And he turns to me and he goes, oh, I know she has. She's in here all the time.

What?

Like, I have never been to the store in San Francisco at that time.

Weird.

And this happens in kind of the weirder, like, the weirder towns of America. And maybe it's because in, like, Texas, like, nobody ever. Nobody looks like me. Like, I don't get that as much.

But in, like, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, like, I'll go into a restaurant, they'll be like, oh, yeah, like, you're in here, like, you know, all the time. I'm like, I have never been here in my life. So I think there may be doppelganger Liz's that are just, like, floating around, so.

But really fun shopping. Got a lot of cool stuff. Bought a raccoon penis, because that's, you know, like, you do, like. Right?

And so then Friday night was the Edwardian Ball, the first night of it, and which I discovered that I am old and cannot handle levels and heels and giant fucking skirts.

So.

But it was gorgeous. There are so many fun things there.

Like, you know, there's like, three floors of things, and there was aerialists and opera singers and bands and a vendor market, which some things happened in on Saturday. So Saturday night comes, and for those of you who don't know, like, I was up this intense to happen to me.

I couldn't wear it because I knew it was going to be the same thing all over again.

It was a mobility challenge in that. In that environment.

Well, I mean, my ankle was fudgeing, swollen. Like, I was like, even in heels. Like, I'm still gonna be tripping on this and going up and downstairs.

So it just kind of went fudge it and went very goth princessy in.

In docs and a baby doll dress and one of my corsets, which somebody thought it was made by the, like, high Level, like corset late people who sponsored it. So I apparently did a fucking good job in my corset.

So pat some of that to me that night also, I was in line for the bathroom, and I got cut in line by a woman with the.

Chicken and carrying a live chicken.

Like, a live chicken that was on her shoulder.

Like a parrot. Like a pirate parrot.

Like a. Like a pirate parrot. But a chicken.

But a goth with a chicken, she.

Kind of looks like a pirate.

I mean, like, there really confusing. I don't know.

There's many, many styles at the Horrific Ball. I don't know. So.

All right.

Yeah, but then I was like, I guess, like, I let the chicken lady go. Like, I guess that's an express pass. Like, I don't know, like, maybe the chicken really has to pee. Like, I don't know, like, what's going on?

And then, so I'm standing in line, and the woman in front of me, I was wearing this gorgeous wishbone necklace that I bought, and she, like, picked up my necklace and then she, like, kissed it. Well, she's like, can I kiss your bone? And I was like, I don't know how to answer this. I guess so.

First time I've been asked that question.

Yeah. And then apparently when my friend came in after, she was not subtle with her and was just like, do you swing?

And would you like to come to my place and play? So apparently I at least get, like, I get the classy hit yokai, I guess, right? People stroking my bone.

And then there was a girl, and I was helping fix her.

So wait, hold on. Did she was. She fingered your bone?

Fingered my bone? Just like last week, she finger my bone. And then there was another lady who had helped, like, her with her outfit.

And then I was like, can you check the back of my corset? Just want to make sure my strings didn't fall in the toilet. Or like, you know, because. Oh, that also happened on Friday night.

If you're going to sit down at stairs in a place that people have been walking in, you should probably check to make sure that the stairs are not covered in liquid. Because I sat down and got the wettest spot on my ass that I've ever gotten in my life. And it, like, soaked through to my underwear.

And at that point, I was like, we could leave now. And that was where we're watching. Yeah, we're watching the chick with the pink hair and the accordion play.

So, yeah, when I got back to the hotel, I've never gotten naked, like, in a Hotel room so fast. And I've gotten naked in a lot of hotel rooms. But it was just like. I was like, what?

Like that underwear was off before, like I even like got through the door. I was just like, oh. What? I know what I said. But anyways, so Saturday the girls like, like, oh, your corset sliced wrong.

Can I just release this for you and fix it? And I was like, this is the type of people at this place. And she was like, yeah, I work at a corset shop, so I know how to do this.

So she just went through and relays my corset for me and, like, made everything, like, correct. I was like, this place is. Yeah, it's a fun time. Didn't drink a lot there, but because the drinks are. They had absinthe drinks.

So I got my corpse survivor and they like the. They made them really strong. So, yeah, I didn't mean to. Oh.

And then Saturday night, wandering through the vendors, my friend happened to notice a handmade leather stuffed bat with a top hat. And it was the most adorable thing I had ever seen.

And then the young lady who worked at this shop started telling me the story of how it was made for her by her young goth lover who was behind us working the artist. And she was. She had been gone for a while on like Renfair or something. I forgot what she was doing, but she'd been gone for a while.

And when she came home, he had spent the time making her this bat.

And it like, so the outside of it, it's all hand stitched leather, and then with like velvet brocade underneath it, and then with a tiny, tiny little top hat. And he's the most adorable bat I've ever seen. And then she was like, so we're taking pre orders for it? And I was like, well, I want one.

And she's like, seriously? And I was like, yeah. And she's like, you really want to be our first pre order? And I was like, yes.

And then she told me how much it was and I said, okay. And then she's like, are you sure? And I'm like, shut up and take my fucking credit card now.

And then like, what are you trying to get me to change my mind? Like, what the fuck?

Because, like, I'm sobering up here as I'm talking to you right now. This.

I was trying to ask about the level of absinthe at this moment too.

This was too. This was too absinthe to drink, son.

Okay.

And so it was always kind of say, like, when you Drink a lot of absinthe. Like, you know what you're doing. You just don't know why.

You're like, oh, I clearly see myself spending all this money on this bat because I want to support. Honestly, it's like, they are the cutest little couple. Like, this. This little artist couple that, like, their little goth kids.

They look like, remind me of, like, early band members, like, I used to know, like, like early 20s. And they're just these kids just traveling around the country, like, selling their leather bats. And I was like, yeah, man.

Like I said, just make sure you put that story in a little card attached to the bat and have, like. So I. I bought. I am the pre order of this first bat. And they're like, you know, he's like, we're gonna be on the road. It's gonna be a couple months.

Like, you know it's gonna be a couple months, right? I'm like, cool, man. I don't need the bat now. And I'm gonna forget I ordered it. And then a few months, I'll be like, what the fuck? I got a bat.

And you'll be very excited. It's a surprise gift to your future self. Right?

And my credit card statement.

Oh, man.

This is what happens when you don't have children or a husband.

Yeah.

Nobody can tell me that I don't need to buy a very expensive leather bat. I was like, also, as he was writing out the order, he's like, do you want the hat? And I'm like, what kind of fucking question?

He said, I wouldn't be buying this if it didn't have a fucking hat.

Yeah. I explained to him. I was like, look, man. I saw, like, this, like, Fox Taxi driving me last.

Last week, and I wanted to buy the Fox because he had a jaunty little hat on. He didn't have the jaunty little hat on. I wouldn't want to buy the Fox taxidermy.

Like, you put a little jaunty hat on anything except most women at the Edwardian Ball, I'm going to want to do them or buy them. So there are a lot of tiny hats that did not work at the ball. They did not work, but there is some. Like, there was amazing outfits.

Like, oh, my God, it was like the Met Gala for nerds. Like, it was gorgeous. Gorgeous. Next year, you'll have to come with me. It's so exciting. We'll have the grandest time and.

Oh, my God, we spent long enough chatting about this. All right, let's talk about this episode.

Which this episode is so much fun. So much fun.

So much fun. It's called Wishful Thinking. This was season four, episode eight.

Oh, no. We've got a woman showering in full makeup like we do.

Clearly she has not gotten to her facial products yet in her shower. And she is really enjoying the shower in the gym, which, I'm sorry, if you've ever taken a shower in the gym.

You're like, I'm getting out of here before anybody sees me naked. Getting out of here before anybody sees me. Or just.

I don't want to be in the shower very long. I'm here for mission. This is a mission oriented shower. This is not a chill shower.

Yeah. I did not have time to go home and shower at my own place. This is what's happening. There's something. We're not enjoying this.

No. And then she get. There's a creepy shadow outside and it's like this, like a silhouette of a man and. But he disappears.

And then you see that as she gets out of the shower, a handprint down the fog on the shower door and wet footprints following her. And she's at the sink and she hears something when she turns around and nothing's there. And then she throws her towel to wear.

I don't even fucking know. She's like, chunks her hair towel across the room at this gym shower, which is bizarre, but it lands on a invisible man and she screams.

Yeah. Then he talks and he says.

He says, hello, Mrs. Armstrong.

Hello, Mrs. Armstrong. And in the transcript they have him labeled as invisible pervert guy.

It's appropriate.

I like it.

So she screams. And then we cut to the next scene and Dean's doing shots at.

He's drinking a disturbing amount of whiskey. And then my note after this says, remind you of anything, Diana?

Hey. Hey. I didn't have that many shots. Okay.

It was Saturday. You're just like, yeah, we kept having them.

I'm like, okay, yeah, there's. There's more. Well, it was kind of my birthday celebration, so, like, it was like my social outing. So that's my past. That's my past.

I mean, I was better off than two other people I saw that night. And that's all I'm going to say about that. So there you go. Yeah. And Sam's asking Dean about hell, and Dean's like. He's. I don't remember.

Still saying he doesn't remember. Because in the previous episode, Uriel told Sam that he needs to ask Dean about hell.

And the waiter walks up, and we're in, like, the hellacious cartoon version of a TGI Friday where they have to wear a bunch of flair. What is it? Is it. What is it in Office Space that Shenanigans.

It's flares. Yeah. Oh, what was, like, the restaurant.

Yes. That Jennifer Anson works at.

Anyways, I would say it's probably something like shenanigans.

I think it was because it was, like, a crossover of, like. Anyways, that's what it reminded me of. Very, very peppy waiter. So Dean's still lying to Sam. I don't remember.

Also, the waiter wants to know if they want a couple of Friar bombs or a chipotle chili changa, which sounds delicious and frightening.

It does all of those things.

So the firebombs, though, do you think those were blooming onions?

I would think stuffed jalapenos.

Okay. Okay. All right. All right. Yeah. But Sam's like. So Sam's, like, going off and, like, to me, he seems like a very kind of, like, nagging life here.

Just kind of like he's poking at something. Just like, you know, tell me what's wrong.

Just tell me what's wrong. Just tell me what's wrong.

Yeah, it's just like. That never works. All you're gonna do is, like, piss off. Like, I don't care who this is. Yeah, it's your brother.

It's your boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife, whatever. This attack.

Somebody off. Yeah. So finally, Sam kind of, like, stops and decides. They start talking about looking for their next mission. But there's not much going on. No.

No omens. You know, there's a smattering of crank UFO sightings and one possible vengeful spirit.

So that's what they need to decide to go see in Concrete, Washington. Because Sam continues his story about the potential vengeful spirit, saying that a ghost threw a.

Threw a woman down a flight of stairs from the showers at the women's health facility. So now Dean's attention has been grabbed because Dean's a little gross. Yep.

He's gross. But naked woman showers. Okay, I guess we're going to this one. So we're going to Concrete Washington, and.

They are driving down little small town street and pull up in front of number one, Lucky chins. Good things happen to those who eat.

Yeah. Yeah.

So Sam goes inside to meet the woman from the shower. Hernit we find her name is Candace Armstrong.

And this restaurant is just beautiful and apparently super cute.

Apparently, they, like, did a lot of reference into it, and it was, like, so good that they would just, like, the crew would just go eat, like, their meals there. Because they were just like, we're eating in a Chinese restaurant.

Yeah. You know, it's adorable.

Yeah.

And it reminds me vaguely of a restaurant my family would go to when I was a kid, but that doesn't exist anymore, so it's fine. Anyways, and then she's convinced that Sam is an author writing a book called Potentially supernatural Shock.

Shock.

Shock. Yeah. But she's talking about how she thinks that she's just sensitive to spirits, so.

She'S not surprised that when approaching, I'm a natural sensitive. So ghosts reach out to me. Do you know how many of these women I've met on ghost hunts?

Oh, my God.

Like, yeah. No, it's not. It's no wonder that he. You know, this ghost reached out to me in the shower. They just. You know, they just come to me. They just do.

But Sam's like, yo, who's this couple making out?

Like, loudly making out behind them? This couple. It's weird. Anyway, so she does. She tells the story about. Yeah, the ghost chased me. He knew my name, kept calling me Ms. Armstrong.

And then I fell down the stairs. Okay, so she wasn't pushed. She fell. And at the bottom, the ghost helped her up and said, please don't tell my mom.

Yeah, that's weird.

Weird.

Yeah.

All right. And while Sam was having this little conversation, Dean was at the women's health center and has been gone over it with a. With the EMF reader.

And he's like, yeah, there's nothing there.

Yep. They do have a fall special on yoga for nine weeks. That's cool.

And he is also reading a paper about a local man named Gary Newman who won $168 billion in the lottery, who also happens to be the series set decorator.

Oh, nice. Nice.

Convenient. Yeah.

Yeah. But Dean just really wanted to save naked women. That's really what it comes down to here.

Yeah. Fair.

And a group of kids go running by, and it was just really random. I don't know. Did you, like. Did this line stand out to you at all when Dean did the run forest run at the kids?

No, because if I see people running, I automatically say, run, Forest run. Like, it pretty much just, like, pops out of my mouth anytime I see anybody. It doesn't have to be a child.

Child, adult, you know, person in a wheelchair or whatever. Like, you know, run, force, run. So. Yep. So Sam is just, of course, cursing them.

Yeah. And then we hear over here a conversation between the local sheriff and a man who is yelling about seeing Bigfoot.

Yeah. It was like, it's not a bear. It's Bigfoot. And the sheriff is like, are you sure? Not a bear? And like, nope. Bigfoot.

Bigfoot.

So Sam and Dean flashed their badges, and now they're FBI, of course.

Of course. And they want to know where the hunter saw the Bigfoot.

Not that kind of hunter. The other kind of.

I'm sorry. Yeah, sorry. Yeah. And Dean's making jokes about LSD in the town water supply, which I love.

I know you're talking about. I don't remember what it's called.

Damn it.

What?

Oh, my God. It'll pop in my head in a minute. It. Anyways, but so also, he says, like Sam says, I think every hunter worth their salt knows Bigfoot is a hoax.

So I also, I love this piece of hunter lore. Like the things they don't believe in, like leprechauns, like, small hands, Bigfoot. Be fair.

They didn't believe in angels before, though.

They did not believe in angels. They did not. So. But then they're gonna see footprints. A very big footprint.

So they follow these footprints and they find a ransacked liquor store, like, out in the middle of nowhere.

It stays out in the middle of nowhere.

Bizarre. You have to go to the store.

You have to put, like, a small bridge to get to it. I'm, like, wildly inconvenient.

There's no.

Wildly convenient. This is a front for something. I don't know what's going on here, but it's not just liquor.

And Dean points out that it's a lot of amaretto and Irish cream and says his girl drink drunk, which also.

Sounds like white girl drunk.

Kind of.

Yeah, kind of. Yeah. And they explained it in the book, and then I forgot because I was like, that's stupid also. So the.

Whatever this was has taken the whole porno rack. And he left some fur, which did remind me of the Edwardian ball, because I went in the bathroom and they were just like, feathers everywhere.

They're just like feathers all over the floor. Not chicken feathers, like boa feathers.

Well, there was a chicken. I mean, I don't know that.

But if it'll hold. Like, oh, shit. Like, the chicken came out of the bathroom, guys. They did not sacrifice the chicken as far as I know.

The chicken lived as far as I know.

All right, so our brothers are sitting outside this ransacked shop now, and they're just trying to figure out what the fuck's going on in this town. And they got nothing. They're like, what is it? Bizarre. There's a.

Anyway, so a little girl rides by on a bicycle, and she's got, like, a little basket in the back of her bike, and a magazine flies out of the basket on her bike. And it happens to be Dean's favorite magazine, Busty Asian Beauties.

So apparently the art director or whatever word she had. Whatever. Sorry, whatever your title is. I will find your name and we'll shout you out later.

But she did all of the porn magazine titles and also spoke Chinese and, like, made sure that every time, like, all those things are actually actual, like, their actual words. And she's like, I always just want to make sure that was clear. So I just love the idea of this. Of, like, this.

This crew of people being like, oh, gotta make porn magazine now and then. Like, all right, who's gonna be in the copy?

What's your set project today? I gotta make a bunch of porn mags.

Like, yeah, the best set project ever. You got the best job. All right.

And so she leaves the. She. The. The box of things get left on a doorstep with a note that says, sorry. So the brothers see that if I followed her.

So they see that, and then they go find the house where her bike is parked and definitely makes a Harry and the Hendersons reference. And I was very happy about that.

Was it date or Sam? Anyways, but also, like, guys, you just followed a little girl to her house. It's weird.

Well, at least they do ask if her parents are home when they.

Yeah, but this child is, like, the worst episode of Dateline. They're like, hi, little girl. Are your parents home? And she's like, like, no. And they're like, well, what's your name? And they're like.

She's like, this is my name. And we're Teddy Bear Doctor. She's like, come in and come to my bedroom. Like, I have seen, like, 17 of these episodes of Dateline that.

Where this happened, but it's not.

She's. She's very concerned that her large furry friend is in trouble and that she thinks he is sick.

And so they're teddy bear doctors and they're Gonna go look at him. And at this point, you're kind of like, off. This bitch has, like a fucking Bigfoot in her room.

Or she's imagining something and they're gonna pull a prank on us. But no, the brothers follow her upstairs. And she opens the door, and it is a giant bear sitting there, very upset, on the edge of her bed.

And tells her to close the door.

Yeah, he's chugging whiskey. He's watching the news, and he's rocking back and forth, which has pretty much been all of us for the past three years.

So, I mean, yeah, I get you, Teddy bear. I get you.

And she tells him that she wanted a big Teddy, but he's sad all the time and smells like a bus.

He smells like the bus. And he's not out sad, but out in the head sad also. Yes. Yes. I'm also here for you. Bear. Teddy bear. We have. We have many things in common.

This is really sad, but also fucking hilarious. It was a very nice combo of that. Yeah. And so Dean. Audrey tells Dean that her Teddy got that way from the wishing well.

So Dean goes in to talk to Teddy, and Teddy is very upset watching the fucking news. Like, very upset watching the news. And anyway, so he asks that. Teddy is asking why he's here. Like. Like an existential fucking crisis.

Oh, we both have that. I was expecting an existential crisis. But why exist.

Tea parties.

That's right. Audrey, you run this shit. That is right. Why is this bear exist? You exist for tea parties, bitch. That's what you're here.

Is that all there is?

So then we get to have this wonderful conversation of Sam and Deaton. Like, what the fuck do we do with this bear?

Shoot it, burn it. Like, what the fuck? But they also realized the bear's existence is not the primary issue. The primary issue is how the bear came to be.

Yeah. The laser. Yeah.

They figure out Mom's in Bali because mom wished that she was in fucking Bali. Okay, Mom, I see you. I see you.

I also feel you. Yep.

And so they're like, you need to go stay with a neighbor. Okay. Thank you for being responsible brothers. At some point, you figured this out. Should not be alone in this house.

They come up with a pretty good lie for a kid, right? They're like, it's got lollipop disease. It's contagious. You gotta go like, is there. Is there an adult?

And she's like, I can go stay with the old lady up the street. Like, what the fuck, child? Like, your parents are awful. Like, oh, you Made your teddy bear. Yeah, there is. All right.

So they're like, all right, we gotta find this wishing well.

Yeah. So they figure out the wishing. Audrey tells them where the wishing well is and ta da. Inside lucky chins.

So they're there and Dean throws in a coin, but doesn't tell. Won't tell Sam what his wish is till a man walks in delivering a sandwich. And it was Freddie. He wished for a fucking sandwich.

Which is a good way to test a wish thing if you don't want something bucked up to happen.

He wished for a foot long Italian with jalapeno, which I see. I don't know if I have a go at the jalapeno. I love Italian banana pepper. Maybe like a pepperoncini. Yeah, maybe sometimes.

But sometimes I just want that sandwich. And honestly, like, that is my favorite. What is your to go? Like, like sandwich store sandwich? That is mine.

Oh, Italian.

That's.

That's not mine. I kind of mix it up. You know, I'll do like a turkey avocado. It's kind of one of my go to's, but. Or, but I'll. Or roast beef.

I mean, I'm a roast beef fan. I don't know.

Roast beef grosses me out.

Really.

It's like a vagina. It's like, why can't we edit this so you're just like waiting the time.

I like the used to eat horse. Like horseradish and roast beef.

I do love horseradish. And if you put blue cheese on it, yes, that would be delicious. But just in general, roast beef is always disappointing.

Like, I would rather go with the pastrami over a roast beef. Like, you're going to get like, less chance of getting disappointed.

That's fair.

Yeah, I like the peppers. Anyways. All right, so Dean has got a sandwich. And the Dean's like, also like, oh, yeah, we got that lotto winner.

And Sam's like, what about that nerd and that pretty couple over there making out? That's weird.

Mm. Yeah. I also think it's interesting that that Dean kind of points out that like, man, like, we really have to stop this.

It seems kind of douchey to like stop people's wishes. Like kind of a fair. Kind of a fair point. So anyways, the restaurateur, the operator on.

The space out, like, oh, so. But well, Dean's saying that too. But Sam's like, there's gotta be a catch, right? Like, it's not douchey. Like, this never ends well.

Like, you can't Like, I. We've all seen all this shit. Like, it never ends well when you wish for stuff, right? Like this. You're gonna buy $1,000 monkey paw.

And you're gonna curse your house with it, but whatever. So we get the manager who comes in and. Do you. Do you get the cast of. Who played him? I did, but the reason I love him.

So this is singing Shanghai Noon in Romeo Must Die.

He was in Romeo Must Die, which is, like, one of the best, like, kung fu movies that was ever made. Fight me. Because it's got Jet Li and dmx. Did watch, like, the DMX story on the plane on the way to San Francisco on the way back, and it was awful.

What was it called? What the fuck was his biopic? Fucking weed. Yeah, I can't. Like, it was. I don't know.

Oh, well, he tells Dean that he can't eat outside food in the restaurant, so he can't finish his fucking sandwich.

So Dean digs through his pockets and pulls out, like, three different badges and finally locates his health inspector badge and says, oh, y' all got rats. Y' all are closed. Sorry. So they are going to try to stop the wishing well from granting wishes. So they drain it. Don't buy anything of note.

And then an interesting conversation is that Dean wants Sam to make a wish and thinks that Sam would wish to go back before they started hunting together and to become his big. The big shot lawyer he was meant to be. Oh, yeah. Well, that, you know. Yeah. Sam's like, I'm not that guy anymore.

And so Dean's like, what would you wish for now? And Sam's like, Lolita's head on a plate.

Lilith, not Lolita. That bad?

Sorry.

I don't know. That got real weird.

Yeah. Lilith's head on a plate. Bloody.

Bloody. Yeah. And so, like, he originally starts off sounding kind of healthy, right? Because he's like, man, we can't go backwards.

Like, you know, I'm a different person. I. I've grown. I'm like, yeah, cool. You can't get backward. What do you want? Like, I would like a decapitated head on a platinum.

A bloody, bloody, decapitated head on a planet.

And you're like, oh, wait, what?

Okay.

Okay, Sam. Okay, I can't do the. Okay. I can't do the cardi. Okay. Nope. Can't do it. Can't do it. Can't Nope. All right, so do you, like notices an old coin?

And so they go get a crowbar because it will not come off the bottom of this well. Crowbar doesn't work. Crowbar. And a hammer doesn't work. It breaks the hammer.

So Sam does a rubbing of the coin.

Yeah, he likes rubbing stuff. And he's gonna go.

Yeah. He runs off because there's like, something occurs to him. He's like, dean, go look this up. It's like probably Babylonian. I don't know. Go look it up.

And Dean's like, where are you going? He's like, I just realized something.

It.

He's got to go on perv patrol.

He's got to go on perv patrol. So he goes to the fucking women's health center. Because he's figured out that the creeper, the bl. The. The quote unquote ghost in the showers is not.

It's some creeper dude who wished to be invisible to go look at naked chicks in the shower. Which is fine.

And who is it? He goes in his hand. It's fucking Ron Weasley. Ron Weasley is naked in the show.

He's not Ron Weasley.

He look. He definitely looks like a Weasley. All right, so we've got a blood. We've got a redhead pervert.

And Sam tells my note was creepy. Little was my note.

No one's getting sleazy for that Weasley. But so Sam says, put on some pants and stay visible. Which to me sounds like a feminist anthem shirt. Put on some pants and stay visible.

Oh. So, yeah. And Sam has figured out that this kid just wished to be invincible to look at women in the shower. Ew. Yeah.

So we cut to four boys running down the street with us, littlest one just chasing after them and totally mad dogs. Dean, who's walking down the street as well.

Yeah. As he's running, he's like, you better run.

Yeah. So Dean's kind of confused by the kid mad dogging him, but whatever. His stomach is not happy.

So he's got to get to the fucking hotel and puke his guts up. When. So when he's pukey's guts up, Sam gets there and they've realized that the wishes turn bad. The wishes turn very bad.

Through the vomit, you just hear the wishes turn bad, Sam. The wishes turn very bad. But he's like. He comes out after puking. He's like, coin is Babylonian and it's cursed.

Yes.

The serpent is Tiamat, Primordial, the God of chaos, I guess Their priests are working some serious black magic to sew the seeds of chaos. And whoever tosses the coin, the wishing well makes a wish and it turns on the well that it grants wishes to all comers. Is any of this true?

Let's find out.

Is it time for lore?

It's time for some lore. Or at least we're gonna talk about Tiamat. I don't know about that fucking wish thing, so let's talk about first. Tiamat or Tiamat. What's a Tiamat?

Well, she's a Mesopotamian goddess and the original mother of dragons. I don't remember. Did you watch Game of Thrones?

Nope.

Okay, but you know what mother dragons is, right? You know the reference at least? Yeah. Okay. This is. She's original, like, boss, like, dragon bitch.

And she is often used to represent the chaotic forces. So, you know, what does she look like? We don't really know. There isn't a lot of iconography from her. From ancient Mesopotamia.

Some people took a guess. Right. So the most reference source for her is the Babylonian creation myth, Enuma Elesh.

And they give a very detailed description of her as having several body parts which included a thigh, belly, neck, ribs, head, and mouth. Cool.

Thanks.

She had some body parts, but in later times, the Greeks would say, oh, she was a woman with snakes for legs. No, thank you, sir. No, no, thank you. That. That is. That was very disturbing.

That's upsetting. I don't like that.

The Chaldeans would say she was a dragon and she had four legs. I'm guessing dragon legs and not snake legs and wings. In Babylonian sculptures, she had a tiger head and they. She was also a sea dragon.

I don't know how you can tell if she's a sea dragon. Like, I don't know. There's distinguishing marks between, like, a regular dragon and a sea dragon.

Does it have webbed. Webbed hands, maybe?

I mean, she had two wings and four feet and claws and scales. And I would think wings would be, like, not good in the water. Unless they turned to the, like, flippers, maybe.

But, like, I would see them being a hindrance. I can't see you being good. Sea dragon. Like, oh, my God. Like, I sent Diana this picture on Thursday night in San Francisco.

Went to the California Academy of Sciences for, like, their night event. It's gorgeous. And they have the aquarium lit up, and down there they had a giant anaconda, and it was like, 10ft. Anaconda.

And it was in the fucking water. And it wasn't just like, hey, like, it was like sleeping in the water. I'm like, what the fuck? I can just like sleep in there. And it was huge.

And then like this one woman came running by with her friends. She's like, you've got to see the boa. And then I just wanted to scream, my anaconda don't want none unless you got. But.

And then I was just like, oh, shit. I don't know these people. I got to go. All right, so anyways, so scam.

That's the story according to the Enuma Elish, which is the ones that most people kind of go back to. And obviously sources will be in the show notes. But our two main ones are going to be the World History Encyclopedia article by Joshua J.

Mark and the timeless myth article Tiamat, the primordial sea goddess who died from her own vengeance by Jimmy Jo. Cool name. Jimmy Joe. All right, so we're going to start basically is a creation myth. So we're starting at the beginning of time.

And there's chaotic water and it's just swirling around. And we got a saltwater bottom and that's Tiamat, which is the salt water bottom. She's just swirling around. On top of her is a fresh water water.

And that's just one around. That's a God Opsu. And some professors said that was how Mesopotamians like saw the earth, like just because of the things, but whatever.

So they're swollen around on top of each other and you know, things got salty and they made some God babies because that's what you do when things get salty, salty God babies just swirling around and making some babies. First lucky. Then they had twins. They had a boy named Lamu and a girl named name Lahamu. Wait, you know, some very, you know, good naming there.

And those two gave birth to more kids, I think with each other. And then like there is a lot more incest going on. Yeah, yeah. And so the. Because I think there's like we don't have enough people to pair.

So like the brothers and sisters just have to. To make this go, I guess. Anyway, so they end up making. They make all these kids, right?

And these kids like to party with like the volume turn up to 11. And they all kind of like personify like the different aspects of like emotions. Like you've got a rage God, you've got like all sorts of shit.

But so everyone's. The entire universe is just annoyed and they're like these people like fucking shut up. Like it's. I really want to go to bed.

And so their mom tm is like, yeah, she's really. They're really annoying, but, like, they're my kid, and I don't want to do anything. Like, I just want to about it to my friends.

And they would just give her advice and be like, you need to, like, put your kids in hand. And then she just wouldn't listen and keep bitching. Okay, I made that part up, but I'm pretty sure it's accurate.

So her husband, you remember that freshwater opsu? He goes to his friend and advisor, the vizier mumu.

And we've all seen Aladdin and read all the erotic novels enough to know that all viziers are evil. They just are. So, like, they. They make a plan together because it's a veer. Do they make evil plans with. With rulers?

So they go to Tiamat, and they're like, look, Ops is like, I got a plan. I can't fucking sleep. These kids are too loud. I'm going to destroy them. And Tiamat is pretty pissed off.

She is like, so why don't you try, like, telling them no? Have you tried grounding them? Have you tried doing anything else besides just, you know, fucking killing our children?

And he is like, no, this is easiest. So he leaves.

Leaves.

And she goes and finds ea. So ea is actually spelled ea, and I heard most other, like, people pronounce it. Yeah, so I'm just going with that.

Yeah, okay.

So he goes, yeah. And she's like, look, he's doing all this weird shit, and he's going to kill my kids. He's like, all right, I got this.

So he casts a spell at Apsu, and, like, he goes to sleep, and then he's like, yeah, while you're asleep, I'm just gonna fucking kill you. So he kills him, and then he is like, oh, you're vizier. Yeah, I'm just gonna imprison on you.

So after he kills, Apsu, like, like, obviously just becomes like, see, he just, like, dips his toe and he's like, oh, thank you for making my pool. You know? And so things can chill out. And he gets married and has this kid named Marduk. And Marduk is born. He's more powerful than all the other gods.

And he's described as dazzling and mighty with the aura of the ten gods. So exalted was the strength. So him and the other gods that are born around his age, they just are being entitled dicks.

Like, the other gods work is apparently all these, like, they have nothing to do. They're just like rich party kids. Like, you see like, most royalty is like, we've all seen that reality show. So they can't. Like.

And they basically, like, the. Like, they're older, like, half brothers that go to team, and they're like, man, like, they're really annoying. Can you. Can you do something?

Remember how, like, our father got murdered and you didn't do anything? Like, so kind of like, you always. My mom, like, do something. She's like, okay, fine. She's like, I'm gonna make demons, as you advise.

She was like, hey, King, you. That's her boyfriend. And he's like, what? And she's like, you're the God of unskilled labor. So, like, he's the guy of Taco Bell.

And he comes over and he's like. And they bang. And so when they bang, they actually become one beast with one female head and one male head. So that's like how they do it.

So as they're doing it that way, they may end up making 11 creatures. I'm not gonna name all 11 of them. But one of them. Of them was a snake dragon. One of them was a hairy beast, man. They had a lion demon.

There was, like, a scorpion man and a fish man and a bull man. So they just made a bunch of weird shit. So, like. And they made a bunch of weird shit. So she, like, goes. Then she goes to her boyfriend.

She was like, all right, we made this weird shit. You got to fight for them. Like God's weird babies. Here, have this Tablet of destiny. Now you're the big God.

You control the heavens, control the earth. You control the underworld. All right, let's go. Let's do this. So they go out, out, and they start battling, and so they actually win.

And she's like, woohoo. She's like, but I'm a nice woman and I'm just gonna let you live. I'm not gonna kill you, let you live. That was.

That was not a good choice because they're dicks, right? And, you know, they're entitled brats and they, like, go to Marduk. I'm like, man, you're alive. But, you know, we're kind of sad.

She beat us up, so we're sad.

Yeah, we're sad. And he was like, all right, I'll go. You know, I'll stand up for you. But there's a miter catch. If I win, I get to be ruler of everything.

And they're like, well, okay, seem like a minor catch, whatever. And they're like, cool. Have this magical maze and have its club. He's like, also, check out my cool bow. I've got this lightning.

All right, so let's go fight.

So you go, and they start fighting and he kills poor Kingu and he takes a tablet and then he is like, all right, now I'm going to fight this bitch Tiamat. So they, like, they start fighting and then he wins because he smashes her in the face with that maze. Like, that's fucked up.

He just like takes the mace and boom, he smashes her face in. And then, because that wasn't enough, he shot her with one of her arrow with his arrows. And that split her in two.

Which makes me think he had to tied her up to somewhere. Like, you can't. Like, if you shoot an arrow, someone's not splitting into. Like, if you have somebody, like, tied up, like in some posts maybe.

But yeah, he's. He's a sick fuck.

Yeah. So then he's a really weird shaped arrow.

Yeah. I don't know. Like, how do you split like a.

Dragon with, like an axe head on it? I don't know. Know. Oh, no.

So then he is like, oh, yeah, like your fucking kids. Like, all these, like, weird little monster babies made. Like, I'm gonna kill them and I'm gonna wear them on my feet.

So he makes like little, like demon charms of them and, like, wears them on his feet as trophy.

Like, it's like when people buy those charms for their cloth, for their crocs now.

Exactly. Like, it was like croc charms and. But I'm like, I don't know if he shrunk them down or if you just have, like, really big feet. But he's like.

So he's wearing, like, all those weird babies. He's got the lion, bull. He's got you. All that shit's on his feet. He's like, all right.

And him and his dad, like, they get together and they're like, all right, I guess we need to, like, make some order of stuff. So he takes Tiamat's body and they're like, we're going to make the heavens and earth from her.

And then from where she was crying because you were killing her and smashing her in the face with the mace. Her tears become the Tigris and the Euphrates river and her tail becomes the Milky Way. So we also know that she had a tail. Lucky bitch.

We all want a tail. So Marduk and his and ER are like, what do we need to do? Like, what we want is law and order. And they're like, we need helpers.

For Law and Order, which I think means we don't want to do shit for ourselves. So we're going to make people. I mean, it makes me humans. So, like, let's take the corpses of all these gods. Yeah, it is a weird choice.

So let's make people from the corpses of all these gods we killed. Oh, and also king. Like, you get to be the first man. So we're going to drain your blood and make Lulu the first man.

So Marty organizes earth, the heavens and the underworld. And like he's a new season of the Edit or that show is on Netflix. And.

And then the poem ends with everybody praising him about what a small guy he was and that's how humans were born. And La La. So yeah, that was tmn. One thing I will say of her legacy, we got a death metal band. Yes, we did.

They're fucking great. And. And they're actually still like making shit now on Napalm Records, so. Rock on, guys. Their video will be linked. Their video. Whatever that Hurts.

What a great song. Title day.

Amazing.

Whatever that Hurts. So that is the story of where TMC comes from. Ta da. So let's get back to the wishes that give you E. Coli. Oh, look, I got an E. Coli buddy.

Yeah.

So, yeah, the dean's explaining that from what his research found is that that the tiamat sows the seeds of chaos and wishes are granted, but they're all twisted. So they have. But they have to find the first wisher to undo it, to pull the coin back out and reverse the wishes.

Yep. So we're going to cut to a chalkboard side.

Oh, my God, I died. Like, I rewound and watched this, like, and cackled in a disturbing way as we just discussed that. Other things make me very sad.

This just cracked me the fuck up. So we see it on a white or a black chalkboard. It just says, life is meaningless. Signed T Bear.

And we see the fucking teddy bear shoot itself in the fucking head and a tuft of stuffing flies out the back of its head. But it doesn't die. And it's really frustrating. And I just literally wrote, wtf? Wtf? Wtf?

It's like all I could do over and over again as he's screaming wide.

All mine says, ha ha ha ha. So Fun fact. Before he donned the teddy bear costume in this.

In this, Michael Teigen was the teacher in Bloody Mary, so he actually has been in this before. Also, I'm not sure if you caught that. Anita Brown, who plays Hope, was in Also in Skin, so we'll get to that later. But, yeah, fun fact.

I didn't have that one. I didn't have her. And I didn't put her other Supernatural episodes, but she's been some other stuff too. Yeah, we'll get to Hope.

We'll get to Hope in a bit. So the teddy bear costume. All right, so there is some things that went on with this.

So they were trying to get an animatronic bear, and that's according to the costume designer, Diane White, but it was really expensive. So then they started talking with the mascot creator, and he was like, oh, yeah, yeah, you can do a guy in a suit.

But I didn't have the proper paperwork to get into Vancouver, so they couldn't get the teddy bear costumes through custom stones, which I just think is funny. But Robert Singer, the director, said the funniest part was when the teddy bear tried to kill himself.

But someone unnamed at the network had such a hard time with that. They just felt that, my God, you've gone too far with the teddy bear blowing his brains out. And I'm like, it's a teddy bear. It's okay.

When you think of all the blood and the guts we've done over the years with some how this offended him the most. He argued it's a suicide on camera, but you really didn't see it. Yeah, but you saw the stuffing.

And the funny thing was is that he wasn't actually stuffed. So that is the story of the teddy bear blowing his brains out. That almost didn't make it to network because the.

The people up top thought it was too much.

It was a lot. I'm not gonna lie. All right. Right. So we cut back the brother's motel room, and Dean is having hell dreams.

Like flashback dreams, obviously nightmares. And so Sam wakes him up and Dean immediately just grabs a bottle of booze. So this is like.

We've kind of seen, like, a little bit of a hint of this happening in the last couple episodes, but not super intensively. But obviously, we know Dean's been having these flashbacks from hell. We know that. That's been on. Obvious.

But using alcohol to numb them a bit, it seems to be accelerating at this point.

Yeah. This is intervention level of drinking. Also, why did you leave your whiskey bottle on the floor? Because that's just going to get knocked over.

How do you drink that immediately? Like, waking up without vomiting, like, oh, I didn't see that. I'm just like, what?

So Sam calls him out, though.

Yeah. He just starts poking him again.

Yeah. Yeah. Uriel wasn't lying. You are. I want the truth. Dean's like, be careful what you wish for. And then they. And then they go back to what you wish for.

Yeah. So Dean finally figures out that he's just like, let's change the subject.

Yes. So they're like, all right, we got the teddy bear. We got lottery. We've got the pervy kit. What. What was first? We got to figure this out.

So Dean is looking at the newspaper and finds it happens to be the large, loud makeout couples from the Chinese restaurant. And that didn't. He didn't seem to match up really well. And as a nerdy guy and a hot chick. Engaged. Yeah.

And also, nerds have money. They get the bitches. Guys, like, this is stupid. But anyway.

Stereotype.

That is a dumb stereotype. But, you know, cool. We're gonna cut to their house, and we're in.

There's west, and he's dozing on. And. But to be fair, he is a little like. Like, he's gross.

Like, we. We find other things about him.

Like, oh, yeah, he's a little greasy. He's dozing. And she walks in the room with a platter. If she, like, made him, like, a turkey dinner of some sort, like a. Literally, a whole turkey.

She made him a whole turkey dinner with even, like, a little, like. I know what you call them. The little hats on the feet.

On the feet that no one uses those.

Got the feet. Hats. And she's like, made you a snack. And I'm like, yeah. I was like, I will be making a wish for this to fall in love with me. If she.

She's just making me a giant turkey for a snack. Yeah.

And she just keeps saying, I love you more than anything, just over and over again. And he's like, I want you to do things that make you happy, too. And she's like. He's like, yeah, yeah, go ahead.

And he's kind of like. He's kind of realizing that maybe. Maybe this is it. Right.

Maybe we're all, as the audience piecing together what the brothers have just pieced together. That he made a wish for her to fall in love with him. And he didn't think through the wording of this wish, probably, or just in general.

It's fucking disgusting to make a woman do something she doesn't or anybody to make something do they don't want to do.

Anybody.

So. Yeah. And gross. Gross.

All right, so to be fair, as funny as this episode is, there's a lot of violations, like the perv, the fucking. Yeah. Theft.

That are not okay.

No, A lot of things are not okay. All right, so. And she's like, all I want to do is make you happy, so. Which is creepy.

So the brothers are there, and they're pretending to be florists for the wedding.

Now, at least they didn't pull, like, a super gay stereotype. I was impressed with that.

Yes.

And they're just like, come on, Wes.

No. Yeah. Because they notice his coin collection on the wall, and. Yeah.

So Sam gets a chance to kind of ask her, Has Hope about Wes, and she's like, I finally saw him for the first time last month, and it was like, he was glowing. And she starts making out with him again.

And she also tells us that he doesn't have a job. And we're like, oh, cool. So not only are you greasy and gross, you're also unemployed. Sweet Wes.

Right? So she goes to kitchen to get some coffee, and they're like, all right.

Right.

Like, Wes, you got to tell us what the. Tell us the fucking truth. So he tells them that basically his grandfather got this coin in Africa.

Told him not to use it, but, you know, but he did, because why not? And the brother's like, yeah, you got to wish it back. He's like, nope. So Dean's like, okay, well, then here we go. I'm gonna pull my gun.

Yeah. They get very, very aggressive.

Yeah. And so they all get in. Baby leaving.

Kind of hot. Yeah. I'm not gonna lie. It's kind of good. And they're just like, get in the fucking car. And then so, yeah, they take him off.

And then they start, like, driving.

And while they're driving, he. He basically explains that Sam's saying the town's going insane. And Wes is like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

And he's like, all I did was I wish that Hope would love me more than anything. And they're like, oh, that's creepy. And then they drive over something there's like a bump in the road, but they don't see anything.

And then we, as the audience do get to see pervy kid.

Definitely got naked Weasley. Naked Weasley.

What you get for being Fuck. An invisible little gross perv.

Yep. You would have worse lessons, kid.

All right, so then Wes basically starts going off on the guy, on the boys that they have it easy because they're hot. And then they. Between the two of them, they kind of go on this wonderful rant. And I kind of really love, like, everything that comes out of them.

Dean's just like, yeah, people are people because they're miserable bastards because they never get what they really want. And Sam is like, right, you get what you want. You go crazy.

And he's like, we're miserable. We have to fight tooth and nail for everything we have.

Yep. And Dean's like, take a look at Michael Jackson or Hasselhoff. Yeah, we can't always get and.

But Wes is like, no, it's awesome that Hope loves me. Sorry. I don't see any insanity going on. As they drive up to the small child that we saw earlier.

Mad dogging Dean, flipping an SUV by himself with other kids inside screaming. And then he says liz's favorite line.

Yeah, and this is Honestly. And Daniel's like, what? I was like, this is my favorite line out of, like, all 15 years of supernatural.

And she's like, how can this be, like, your favorite line? I'm like, I don't know. It's just a way. Something in how this kid delivers it. Like, it's just. It's just perfect. He's like, kneel before Todd.

Neo before Todd. I don't know. It's just really good.

Yeah, it's hilarious. Don't get me wrong. So Dean decides he's gonna go talk to this kid while Sam and Wes go inside to handle the coin.

And Dean's figured out, obviously, this kid's been bullied. And Audrey had told him about the well, so he's gonna try to, you know, give him the. Was it the Spider man speech?

That with great power comes great respect, responsibility, and Todd is not fucking having it.

And he uppercuts him. He just fucking uppercuts and, like, the shit out of him. And Ningo's flying. And I'm just like, I want to adopt this child. I want Todd to be mine.

Like, yes, we will avenge things together, Todd.

So Sam and Wes are inside. The restaurant was like, why can't we just get what we want? So. And Sam's like, because that's look, life. And then.

And then Tim is struck by lightning.

Yeah.

So Wes goes into the restaurant and who's there? Hope. Holy. She overheard that Sam was gonna make Wes wish away their love. Yikes, yikes, yikes. So she wished Sam get struck by lightning.

We cut back to Dean crawling out of the trash at this point point. And he calls out Todd and tries to punch him. And it does nothing.

So he's like, I don't want to do this, kid.

And he punches him, which is so awkward. Watching Dean punch a child just.

It is very disturbing. He punched a child and then the Todd. And then the child strangled him. And the child, like, child just strangles the fuck out of him.

Yeah.

And. But Wes is finally like, oh, Wesley's.

Finally realizing this is. This whole situation's fucked. He's like, you were willing to kill somebody. And she's crying.

She just loves Wes more than anything, more than her own life. And he's like, oh, this is all fucked. This is fucked. I have to pull the coin out. And so he pulls the coin out.

He does.

And as he does, all the magic comes undone of the wishes. So Todd lets Dean go. And Dean is still sweet, this little shit. And lets the pretends to be like kind of being chased by Todd to scare off.

Todd was getting beaten up by those kids. And those kids look like a little dick. So yeah, I do appreciate that. Dean was like, you know what, kid? Like, here, I will have this.

Like, you don't need to get beat up anymore, Todd. Yeah.

And then Hope looks very confused. Come back to the restaurant. Hope looks confused, but we were. But she doesn't even remember who Wes is. Which I know it's kind of weird, but whatever.

I mean, I get it because she didn't really know who she kind of knew. She knew, knew, like had seen him, but she didn't really know him before. I thought was extra sad though. It is.

And you know, and I think, you know, Wes kind of had that hopeful moment on his face or like for like a second where he's like, oh, maybe she'll still remember me. And she was like, who the fuck are you?

Who. Who you and watch. But. And she walks outside and walks past Sam, who is not unconscious. He's no longer down.

So Wes gives the coin to Sam and walks away way. So we've pieced together that.

And they go give us little clips to let us know that the winning lottery ticket was deemed to be a fake, that Audrey's parents returned from Bali with a gnarly sunburn and teddy bear is now a normal teddy bear size with a bandage over a giant hole in the back of its head.

He does. He has a giant head hole.

And then the coin is melted down and all the wishes are gone.

Yeah, he walks past like Audrey and the teddy bear walk past Dean and like they do this really nice wave. And so I'm like, wait, so Hope doesn't remember them, but Audrey does. Okay, whatever.

But so Sam has melted down the coin and at this point, you know, like, Sam starts poking nagging bitch again. And finally Dean like caves.

He's like, look, Dan. And Dan does cave. He's like, look, I shouldn't have lied. I do remember everything that happened at pit. But I'm not going to tell you about it.

I won't lie. But I don't want to talk about. Won't help. It's not going to heal. There aren't words. There's no forgetting and.

And there's no possible way to make you understand. So sorry, I'm not going to tell you, but it's all up in here for good.

Yeah, sorry. I'm just gonna keep all the shit stuff inside me because that seems healthy and. Yeah, we're just not gonna talk about it.

Just pretend it didn't happen because that always works out for us. So great. But at least like, yes, he's kind of telling some of the truth.

But I don't think. I don't know. It's. It's a complex situation in some ways.

But I think that because of what they're doing and battling, it makes a little more sense to be slightly more forthcoming about. Yeah, guess what? We're talking about hell on earth. We're talking about being attacked by demons. We're talking about potentially going to hell.

Maybe I should share with you my intel on fucking hell.

See, and that's a very different perspective which. The intel which is like, oh yeah, you don't know what we've done in our lives.

We're just like, hey man, like, you know, like, what's going on, the enemy. Like, you should be sharing that at the same time also, like, you know, it's traumatic. It's traumatic. And you know what? You.

When you go through a trauma, sometimes you want to fucking talk about it. You're just like, you know what? It sucked. I'm dealing with it. Shut up. Like, I don't want to talk about it. Fuck off. So I kind of get it.

Yeah, I know.

So let's talk about some of these actors we had in this episode before we get a wrap up, so hope you mentioned she was in another episode of Supernatural. She also played by Anita Brown. She was also in Star Trek beyond as Teavanna and in Space Force as Catherine. Current most recent season.

We already talked about Lucky Chin's owner, Sing Cheng, who was in Shanghai Noon and Romeo Must Die. Now, the important actor we do need to talk about is Wes, the person who played Wes, because this was played by Ted Raimi.

And if you are a cult movie fan or even a modern movie fan at this point in time, he is the brother of Sam Raimi, who is known for Evil dead, Evil Dead 2, army of Darkness and the Superman franchise, and Darkman and a bunch of other phenomenal films over there.

Time.

So what was Ted Raimi in, you ask? Oh, I will give you a brief list because if I went through all of it, this podcast would double in length. But.

And also he had a famous brother. So there we go. Go on.

Well, that helps, right? So Evil dead, Evil Dead 2, he did have bit parts in. He had bit part in army of Darkness as well. Candyman, he was in Dark Man.

He was in Spider Man 3. He was in My Name is Bruce.

Because we get a lot of crossover with Bruce Campbell when you get into the Raimi family, because Sam Raimi loves Bruce Campbell and Ted. They all grew up together as a story.

Yeah, it was really funny. Yeah.

So we like. We like good old Wes, the actor that played Wes, even though Wes was a creeper.

He was. But also he realized he was a creeper.

He did. He learned.

At least he learned his shit on his own. Like, yeah. And he wasn't like, I will die taking hope to my grave, which is. You know, some of these assholes would at least.

He was like, oh, fuck, I screwed up.

He's like, now this is sad and weird. I'm sorry.

And you're like, I forgot about the fact that I've been basically raping this woman for a while. And. Yep.

Bad, bad shit.

Okay, never mind. All right, so. But episode one of my favorites, I think.

You know, it was a really fun episode. If you don't get too deep in that side of the things of, like the weird violations that go down in this episode.

What?

What weird violations? Other than that, it was a really enter after. It was a really good ethical dilemma. And because they did. I mean, for a minute you're like, well, what?

Why can't people's wishes just come true?

I thought the existential dilemma was that.

We can go the existential crisis about our. Our meaning of life as tea parties.

It's tea parties.

Tea parties.

That's it.

All right. That's all I got, though.

All right. I think we're going to end it, though. All right. Cheers. Jerk.

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