I chat with former Geelong star and current player manager superstar Liam Pickering.

We chat about how Gary Ablett Jnr landed at the Gold Coast and about how he got Buddy to the Swans with any leaks.

He tells us about how David Teague was treated throughout the Carlton review and gives us an update on one of his biggest clients.

We also talk about the details and intricacies of how trade deals get done and free agents move clubs.

Plus much, much more. One of my favourite chats so far, out Wednesday!