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How Can I be Better at Live Videos?: Coaching with Keva
Episode 2029th November 2022 • Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking • Kirsten Rourke
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In this week's episode of Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking, Kirsten has a live mini-coaching session with Keva of Le Departique, a fashion and art boutique. Although Keva is a skilled speaker, she wanted tips for doing live videos on social media.

Key take-aways:

  • If you are recording on your phone, listen to the playback with earbuds or headphones 
  • Do not underestimate the value of a really good green screen
  • Before going into a full video production process, start with the equipment you have so you can evaluate what you really need

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Kirsten:

Welcome to Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking, the podcast,

Kirsten:

and today, the coaching session.

Kirsten:

Today, we've got a coaching session with Keva.

Kirsten:

Welcome to the show.

Kirsten:

I'm so glad you're here.

Keva:

Thank you so much for having me.

Keva:

I'm so excited to be here .

Kirsten:

So, so for those of you who are listening, this is actually

Kirsten:

our second pass of this, because the software just completely hiccuped.

Kirsten:

So, that's why we're cracking up, is because we've done all this before.

Kirsten:

So Keva, go ahead and tell everybody about what it is that you do.

Keva:

Okay, so my name is Keva and I have a company by the name of Le Departique.

Keva:

It's a women's online boutique at the moment, women's clothing.

Keva:

It's gonna be an art and fashion mobile boutique that I'm currently building.

Keva:

It's taken a while, but I am definitely continuing this journey to the

Keva:

end, regardless of what happens.

Keva:

And then eventually, I'll have a brick and mortar location, but I'm gonna also

Keva:

have my trucks, so I'm gonna have both.

Keva:

That's what I do now, and I'm also a teacher.

Keva:

Until I can make this dream come true .

Kirsten:

What do you teach?

Keva:

I teach art to high school students.

Kirsten:

Okay, fantastic.

Kirsten:

So, for this particular thing, for presenting and speaking, public

Kirsten:

speaking isn't really a problem, because you're already a teacher.

Kirsten:

So this is more tips and tricks around possibly doing a Live, yes?

Keva:

Yes, that's correct.

Kirsten:

Okay.

Kirsten:

So have, let me ask you the million dollar question.

Kirsten:

How are you at taking selfies?

Keva:

You know, I have that same pose every time, with the head

Keva:

tilt and the neck looking forward, with a side profile type of look.

Keva:

I have that.

Keva:

Typical, but not a, not a straightforward, kind of a old school

Keva:

Hollywood glam type of, doey eye.

Kirsten:

Oh, that sounds

Keva:

Kirsten:

Oh, doey eyed?

Kirsten:

Oh, that sounds good.

Kirsten:

I have, I need to see that.

Kirsten:

You're gonna need to send me a photo when this is done,

Keva:

I have one.

Kirsten:

Because that sounds really good.

Keva:

I'm gonna send one to you.

Kirsten:

That's excellent.

Kirsten:

So, the reason I ask, is because I was at a conference and I met

Kirsten:

a woman who is amazingly good at selfies, which I am historically not.

Kirsten:

And so I was taking pictures of myself and I was holding my

Kirsten:

phone essentially straight arm out, right in front of my face.

Kirsten:

And I've never liked how those looked.

Kirsten:

And she, when I was taking a picture with her, she goes, "Could

Kirsten:

I give you a little guidance?"

Kirsten:

And I said, "Yes, please."

Kirsten:

So she actually pushed my arm up, so that essentially my arm was about where my

Kirsten:

forehead is and tilted it down a little.

Kirsten:

And she said, "Try to get the top of your head essentially into the top of

Kirsten:

the frame so that you're seeing your full face, and it's also angled a little

Kirsten:

bit down to, to you, and you look up and directly into it and you smile."

Kirsten:

And it's the best selfie I took at any conference this year.

Keva:

Wow

Kirsten:

So, I think my first piece of advice is going to be try doing some

Kirsten:

different Lives of yourself where you record with different hand positions for

Kirsten:

a minute or two, and then go look at it and see if that's the look that you want.

Keva:

That's great.

Keva:

I'm gonna do that.

Kirsten:

Because I think that will help.

Kirsten:

And also, lighting is an issue and audio is an issue.

Kirsten:

So, wherever you're going to be doing this, if you can find a similar

Kirsten:

space and do some practice runs, that would help, because then you're not

Kirsten:

doing it for the first time and are back lit, which most people end up

Kirsten:

being backlit without realizing it.

Kirsten:

And then it throws off the colors, and it throws off your brightness, and it

Kirsten:

just makes everything kind of worse.

Kirsten:

Now, that's if you're planning on doing it just sort of rolling.

Kirsten:

Were you planning on using your phone?

Kirsten:

Did you wanna get some serious equipment?

Kirsten:

What are your thoughts around that?

Keva:

Well, initially, I would probably start with my phone, but I would

Keva:

like to graduate to the next level.

Kirsten:

Mm-hmm

Keva:

Because I really don't want, that's another thing that's,

Keva:

be like a hesitation, is I want it to be done a certain way.

Keva:

So I want the lighting to be a certain way, and I don't know

Kirsten:

Yeah

Keva:

That camera, the cell phone is gonna to give me exactly I'm looking

Keva:

for, but, you know, sometimes you just have to launch things ugly, I guess.

Keva:

But not too ugly, because I want

Kirsten:

Mmmhmm

Keva:

people to be able to see my clothing, but, so

Keva:

I'm kinda torn between that.

Keva:

Like, should I wait and get some equipment?

Keva:

Or should I just start where I am and use my phone?

Kirsten:

Well, my suggestion would be to start and to do just small test

Kirsten:

runs, and then do a couple of Lives that are, Lives have an energy and

Kirsten:

they have a connection, and people love the intimacy of it and the fact

Kirsten:

that it's something where, if something goes wrong, something goes wrong.

Kirsten:

I mean, you're a teacher.

Kirsten:

You roll with what happens, so you've already got the, the stagecraft of being

Kirsten:

able to go, "Oh, somebody's acting up.

Kirsten:

Okay."

Keva:

Oh yeah

Kirsten:

"Let's play," and deal with it.

Kirsten:

Yeah, I mean, high school,

Keva:

Mm-hmm

Kirsten:

You, you've got that in spades.

Kirsten:

So, I would say get some, make sure you have some decent

Kirsten:

lighting and be lit on both sides.

Kirsten:

Obviously, you already know fashion.

Kirsten:

You already know your colors, so wearing something that really looks the best on

Kirsten:

you and reads will really well on camera.

Keva:

Mm-hmm

Kirsten:

And then, I'm not sure how it'll look, but you could experiment with the

Kirsten:

flipping the camera from facing out to facing in, so that you could film your

Kirsten:

clothing, and then flip it around to you, and then push it up a little bit

Kirsten:

and go, "Okay, this is what I'm doing."

Kirsten:

And have it be little quick, like, two minute hits, just

Kirsten:

little, like, sneak shots because

Keva:

I love that.

Kirsten:

Stuff like that, or just, go ahead.

Keva:

No, I was saying I like that.

Keva:

That's a great idea.

Kirsten:

Have you done any Reels?

Keva:

Oh, I do them all the time.

Kirsten:

Like anything on Instagram?

Keva:

I do them all the time, however,

Kirsten:

Okay

Keva:

They are, I might just make my clothing come into the beat a different

Keva:

way, you know, from the top, from the bottom to the side, or, if somebody sends

Keva:

me footage of themselves in my clothing, I will make it a part of the Reel.

Keva:

So, yeah, I, I do Reels, like, almost every day.

Keva:

I need to do one today.

Kirsten:

Oh, wow

Keva:

I haven't done one yet.

Kirsten:

Really?

Kirsten:

Oh, that's fantastic.

Keva:

Thank you.

Kirsten:

Oh, that's great.

Kirsten:

Yeah, that's, that's definitely something that I, I certainly wanna

Kirsten:

do more of and that's wonderful.

Kirsten:

Yeah, if you get some little candid footage, footage of you, the things

Kirsten:

that I found really engaging, and you'll have to kind of determine

Kirsten:

what your audience wants, but I love the behind the scenes stuff.

Keva:

Mm-hmm, yes

Kirsten:

I love the, "Look, I'm packing up."

Keva:

Mm-hmmm

Kirsten:

"I'm heading off to the show.

Kirsten:

Oh, here we are," and that kind of stuff, and just little clips, 15

Kirsten:

second clips of that, and then a montage of the photos, might be really,

Keva:

Yes

Kirsten:

really helpful.

Kirsten:

And then that's not a full commitment to Live, but it gets you out

Kirsten:

there enough to get some traction.

Keva:

That's a great idea.

Keva:

I got a little bit.

Keva:

I'm sorry, go ahead.

Kirsten:

No, no.

Kirsten:

You've done a little bit with?

Keva:

I've done a little bit of showing them when I'm on my way to

Keva:

the Post Office to make deliveries.

Keva:

I've done that.

Kirsten:

Okay.

Kirsten:

And you said you have footage of people wearing your clothes?

Keva:

Yes, just a couple, but I, I use them.

Kirsten:

Okay

Keva:

I use one and over again, because she's so popular.

Kirsten:

So, when you're gonna be doing Live events, what kind

Kirsten:

of setting is this gonna be at?

Keva:

Ooh, that's a great question.

Keva:

Well, I'm a really, girly girl, and so, I like the flowers and,

Keva:

like, my truck is really gonna be what my personality is like.

Keva:

So it's like flowers, if you, if you see my first photo shoot that

Keva:

I had for my truck, you'll see.

Keva:

It's, like, I had like a floral picnic, and there was a bird cage chair that

Keva:

had flowers on the arch of it, and it was just, you know, I had an old, a

Keva:

vintage sofa and she was draped over it, and there was a vintage telephone.

Keva:

So, I think, I don't, I don't wanna do the same thing every time, but

Keva:

I like when old school meets new school, that's kinda my style.

Keva:

So, it would probably be a setting where it's really girly.

Keva:

It's kind of girly, but playful at the same time, not, not stuffy or boring.

Kirsten:

Okay.

Keva:

So I've decided.

Kirsten:

I think, I think candids definitely will work well for you.

Kirsten:

You already have a leg up in that you don't have to get over public speaking.

Kirsten:

You already have presenting skills.

Kirsten:

So it's kind of the logistics.

Kirsten:

And, as always, have a backup plan.

Kirsten:

You know, if, because things always go wrong.

Kirsten:

I will say that as you start to get more sophisticated with your

Kirsten:

equipment, one of the things that is underestimated is how much really goes

Kirsten:

into getting a really good green screen.

Keva:

Mmmm

Kirsten:

So, if you decide to kind of go the full route of full video production,

Kirsten:

just be aware that it's really easy to do it and have it not quite work.

Keva:

Mmmm

Kirsten:

So, having it work really well is a pretty big commitment.

Kirsten:

So, I would start with the casual and simple and the phone, and kinda get

Kirsten:

your sea legs, and get a feel for what you wanna do, and start incorporating

Kirsten:

things in pieces, rather than doing sort of a big leap and a full commitment

Kirsten:

into the video production piece.

Keva:

I love that.

Kirsten:

That's my, that's my suggestion.

Keva:

I love that.

Keva:

I'm gonna do something

Kirsten:

Especially

Keva:

Soon, hopefully .

Kirsten:

Good, good.

Kirsten:

Well, you're an entrepreneur and when did you start, is it La

Keva:

Le Departique

Kirsten:

Le Departique, there we go.

Kirsten:

Okay.

Kirsten:

See, I, I wrote it down and as soon as I'm looking at my handwriting,

Kirsten:

I'm like, "I'm gonna say that wrong.

Kirsten:

I am"

Keva:

I made that word up.

Kirsten:

Le Departique, okay.

Keva:

Le Departique

Kirsten:

I love it.

Keva:

So, I came up with it when I was in school, that's how long this dream

Keva:

has been going on forever, but, one day, it's going to be like a department

Keva:

store with a boutique atmosphere.

Keva:

So, I combined the department store with the boutique and

Keva:

came up with Le Departique.

Kirsten:

Nice, nice

Keva:

Thank you

Kirsten:

And, and when did you, when did you kind of kick

Kirsten:

off as an entrepreneur fully?

Kirsten:

Was that this year?

Kirsten:

Was it last year?

Kirsten:

Was it

Keva:

Fully?

Keva:

It was this year in July, July 15th to be exact.

Kirsten:

Okay, all right

Keva:

My initial plan, my initial plan was to start with the mobile

Keva:

boutique, but my carpenter, he fell ill.

Keva:

I was taking care of my dad for some years, so it kinda pushed

Keva:

everything on the back burner.

Kirsten:

Mm-hmm

Keva:

But, I just decided to launch online, because, you

Keva:

know, time waits for no one.

Keva:

So,

Kirsten:

Yes

Keva:

I started to make my online presence known and then I, you know,

Keva:

it's just gonna have to work out.

Keva:

So, the truck will be done, prayerfully, by January.

Keva:

That's what I'm hoping.

Keva:

But I still do events, regardless.

Keva:

I pop up.

Keva:

I just haul and pop up, you know .

Keva:

So, because the show must go on, so

Kirsten:

Exactly.

Kirsten:

So, when's your next popup?

Keva:

My next popup is gonna be, well, I have one that's kinda

Keva:

tentative and I usually go to Trilogy Studios in Annapolis, Maryland at

Keva:

the Day Spa, and I pop up there.

Keva:

So I may pop up there this Saturday.

Keva:

I just have to confirm.

Keva:

She, her name is Allison, and she's wonderful.

Keva:

She allows me to pop up there at least once a month.

Keva:

I just have to confirm that date because I know she's going outta town.

Keva:

But my, the next time popping up on a regular basis, a consistent basis,

Keva:

is gonna be at the Four Seasons in Georgetown, in Washington, D.C.

Keva:

for their Holiday Market, so I'll be there

Kirsten:

Ooooo

Keva:

For the first three weekends in December.

Kirsten:

Oh, fantastic, all right, Four Seasons, Georgetown, D.C.

Kirsten:

In December.

Kirsten:

That sounds amazing.

Keva:

I'm gonna be in one of their, I'm gonna be one of their chalets.

Kirsten:

Oh, I'm gonna, I've, I've gotta find a

Kirsten:

way to come down and see that.

Kirsten:

That's, that's perfect.

Keva:

Kirsten:

I've, I've definitely gotta come see that.

Kirsten:

So, my suggestion for that is, since it's D.C.

Kirsten:

and the chalet, oh yeah, I would, I would get setting up footage.

Kirsten:

I would get travel footage.

Kirsten:

I would get some shots of D.C.

Kirsten:

and

Keva:

Oh yes

Kirsten:

Some, just, crowd event stuff, and mix all that in, and go really,

Kirsten:

like, old school eighties montage.

Keva:

Yes

Kirsten:

And just go completely nuts with it.

Keva:

Kirsten, you

Kirsten:

That's what I do.

Keva:

Make me so excited about this.

Keva:

I'm so excited.

Keva:

I'm pumped

Kirsten:

Good.

Kirsten:

Well, I can't wait to see this.

Kirsten:

This is gonna be wonderful, because, I love it, normally when I'm talking with

Kirsten:

folks, it's the public speaking part, but in your case, it's the logistics

Kirsten:

around what you're gonna do with it and oh, you've got so much you can play with.

Kirsten:

It's gonna be great.

Keva:

I'm excited.

Keva:

I'll keep you, I'll definitely keep you posted on how things are going.

Keva:

Definitely.

Kirsten:

All right, fantastic.

Kirsten:

Well, I hear, and there we go, I hear my teenager in the background,

Kirsten:

so that's sort of a hint that we've come to the end of our time.

Kirsten:

Fantastic.

Kirsten:

Thank you so much for coming on and letting me have this conversation with

Kirsten:

you live and just have people kind of explore this with us as to, you

Kirsten:

know, thinking about what you might wanna do with your presenting and,

Kirsten:

and your public displays of your, your work, because art and fashion

Keva:

Yeah

Kirsten:

On the road, I love it.

Kirsten:

All right.

Keva:

Thank you so much.

Kirsten:

Four Seasons, Georgetown, D.C., December.

Keva:

Yes

Kirsten:

Okay.

Kirsten:

We definitely need to get the word out about that because

Kirsten:

you need to have big crowds.

Keva:

Yes.

Keva:

Thank you so much.

Kirsten:

Big crowds.

Keva:

Yes.

Keva:

And do you,

Kirsten:

All right, well thank you so much for coming on.

Keva:

You're welcome.

Keva:

Thank you so much.

Kirsten:

I'm sorry, say again?

Keva:

I was gonna say, should I give my name just so that they,

Keva:

well, I guess I did say it slowly.

Keva:

I said Le Departique.

Kirsten:

Yes.

Kirsten:

So, Le Departique and Keva.

Keva:

Yes

Kirsten:

Yes, perfect.

Kirsten:

All right, and where, where are you, like your website is?

Keva:

It's www.ledepartique.com, and my Instagram is Le Departique,

Keva:

so that's L E D E P A R T I Q U E.

Kirsten:

Fantastic.

Kirsten:

All right, so everybody listening, go follow.

Keva:

Kirsten:

And those of you that are listening, please, as always, come

Kirsten:

find us on LinkedIn in the Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking group.

Kirsten:

And, what I'd like you to do on this one, I'm gonna ask you to give me

Kirsten:

your favorite concept for what kind of montage video that Keva should make.

Kirsten:

What do you think the background music should be?

Kirsten:

Let's have that be the question for the week.

Kirsten:

Okay,

Keva:

I like that.

Kirsten:

And we'll go ahead in group and ask that and see what people come up with.

Keva:

Yay, thank you.

Kirsten:

All right.

Kirsten:

Thank you so much for coming on.

Kirsten:

I really, really appreciate it.

Keva:

I had a ball.

Keva:

Thank you so much.

Keva:

It was such an honor.

Keva:

Thank you so much.

Kirsten:

All right.

Kirsten:

See everybody next week.

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