Dr. Anokhi Kapasi joins us for a riveting chat that dives deep into the world of homeschooling and career mastery for moms in STEM! Picture this: a super-smart biomedical researcher, a talented consultant, and an entrepreneurial wizard all rolled into one, while also juggling the demands of homeschooling two energetic boys. Anokhi spills the beans on her journey from the traditional workforce to creating her own path with 'Solve for Mom' and her podcast, 'Science Careers for Moms.' She shares how she transitioned from being a full-time professional to a homeschooling mom, sculpting a life that merges both her passions seamlessly. The conversation is packed with insightful moments as Anokhi recounts the spark that ignited her decision to homeschool—her son advocating for it! Who knew kids could be so persuasive? Anokhi's anecdotes about the challenges and triumphs of homeschooling reveal not just the day-to-day logistics, but also the deeper emotional connections that blossom when learning happens outside the classroom walls. From the messy chaos of hands-on experiments to the 'aha' moments that make everything worthwhile, she illustrates how education can happen in the most unexpected places. And guess what? It's not just about academics; it's about nurturing a lifelong love for learning, which is something we all can get behind!

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Dr. Anokhi Kapasi, PhD has built a portfolio career across biomedical research, consulting, and entrepreneurship. Anokhi is a biomedical researcher who has worked in scientific consulting for over 12 years while homeschooling her 2 boys. As a working mom in STEM, she’s had to solve the problem of how to stay a serious professional while designing a family life she actually wants. This led Anokhi to creating her company Solve for Mom and hosting the successful podcast, *Science Careers for Moms,* where *s*he brings a systems thinking approach to work–life balance. Through her signature framework, the Career-Life Integration Protocol (CLIP™), Anokhi helps moms in science & tech turn messy trade-offs into clear career decisions—so they can continue grow their careers without the rest of their life falling apart.

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I now have the pleasure of introducing Dr. Anokhi Kapasi. Anokhi has built a portfolio career across biomedical research, consulting and entrepreneurship.

She is a biomedical researcher who has worked in scientific consulting for over 12 years while homeschooling her two boys. As a working mom in STEM, she's had to solve the problem of how to stay a serious professional while designing a family life she actually wants.

This led Anokhi to creating her company Solve for Mom and hosting the successful podcast Science Career for Moms where she brings a system thinking approach to work life balance through her signature framework, the Career Life Integration Protocol. Clip.

Anokhi helps moms in science and tech turn messy trade offs into clear career decisions so they can continue to grow in their careers without the rest of their life falling apart. Welcome Anokhi. It is a pleasure to have you here.

Thank you so much for joining in us and as someone who worked in tech for quite a few years, yeah, tech can be a challenge for work life balance in general.

Right.

So thank you for being here and for agreeing to be on our podcast today.

Thank you actually for inviting me on. I know that it's a little bit maybe of a stretch to have me come on here, but I'm really excited to to bridge this, our two worlds together.

So I really appreciate it.

Well, you homeschool two boys, right? So it is not a stretch in the slightest to have you on our podcast.

Yeah.

As we were figuring out when our pre chat, you know, it's one of those things that you are going to be one of those, one of these shows that is an inspiration for other people's like, I don't think I can do it. There's no way. I have this really busy career as high pressure, all this stuff. But you did it. So we want to start there.

But what was the inspiration to homeschool the boys? Let's start there and we'll kind of build into the rest of it.

Maybe maybe add a little of the Solve for Mom. Was that during? Before, after, kind of. What's the progression of the Solve for Mom and the homeschooling and the business all wrapped up together.

Okay, so we're really going to get into this.

Okay.

Yeah.

You know, no simple questions.

Let's jump right in.

Jump right in. Bang.

Okay, that's awesome. Yeah, let's do it. If you think I'm leaving anything out, just let me know. But let me retrace the steps a bit. So we started homeschooling.

I have two boys and we started homeschooling when my older Son was going to enter kindergarten. And what's really interesting is that he was the one who advocated it for himself. It was not on my radar, not on my husband's radar.

We actually fell in the trap of all those myths that you hear about homeschooling and just felt like that was not gonna be for us. But he sensed, my son sensed that something was not completely working for him in just whatever preschool experience he had.

Even though he went to amazing preschools and he had great times with his friends and played playtime and all that, it's just kind of like he knew something was not doing it for him, I guess.

And so the whole summer leading into kindergarten, his kindergarten year, I had already enrolled him into our public school, which, by the way, it was, like, right behind our house. So we just thought, wow, this is, like, such a great setup.

But the whole summer, he kind of just every day told us about how he really thought homeschooling was going to be the thing for him. And the only reason he knew about homeschooling schooling was because we're talking about, like, 20, 21 at this point for him. So he had.

He had experienced education at home, where we were doing STEM experience experiments every day and having, like, learning, but through play.

And so he's sitting there thinking, I could go there and see my friends for a little bit of time and then be bored the rest of the time, or learn from mom and dad and play essentially, and call that learning. Right. So he just really felt like that was the route for him. Granted, he was really young.

It sounds like I want to do that.

Can we go back and try?

Can we go back?

You know what's funny, though, is that so two days before the school year started, my husband and I obviously had a lot of conversations, and then we unenrolled him. And that is the start of our homeschooling journey. I have to say, maybe I'm not so proud of it.

This was maybe my ignorance showing up, but I kind of started the journey kicking and screaming. And this is where some of the stuff will tie in about what I do as a business. But I had to stop my entire career in order to make this happen.

Eventually it became a little bit of shuffling around of things, but I do research and consulting mostly for pharma in the space of drug safety and epidemiology and things like that. And so I thought very much that I was excited to go back to work full time in person somewhere as soon as my children go to school.

And that was not the case anymore with him homeschooling. So I had to readjust everything. And it just felt a bit like it was not necessarily my choice.

However, what turned out was that once we started homeschooling, and in my head, mind you, I still had not made that mental shift. I was thinking, nothing is permanent. We're going to do this for a month. He's going to hate it. I'm going to hate it.

And kids move schools all the time. I'll enroll him. You know, I just said, let's get this out of his system. And I ended up loving it.

Yeah, it's not so bad, is it?

It's amazing. And I just. I got my first. The first moment I got to witness that aha moment with him, then I was hooked. I said, oh, I get it.

Did you ever have any moment that was that good in your career ever?

I mean, I definitely like being stimulated intellectually. So I am a bit of a, you know, a learning junkie, I guess you would say. So. I like that.

I get that aspect in my career, however, I am learning things in homeschooling all the time.

And we can talk about, you know, our philosophies with homeschooling or whatever, but just to say that what I didn't understand until I started doing this for myself was that learning happens all the time, everywhere. And so I was learning.

So confining it to a classroom. Why would you confine it to a classroom and say, this is what learning is? It's like. No, once you start.

Once you start getting that love of learning, especially in a homeschooling, then everything.

Exactly. And that's what we realize. And I realized that. And this will also play into our talk about balancing it all.

But I could run an errand, and that was a learning opportunity. We could throw in math or reading or whatever, just running errands. So the lifestyle became appealing almost immediately for me.

And so then I knew that this was something that we were ready to commit to. But then I started to figure out, well, what am I going to do to. To be able to continue to work, you know, because it's an important part of my life.

It wasn't that necessary. I was forced into having to work. It's just that I wanted to always keep that a part of me and my life.

And so I started experimenting with how can I shape my career to work for my lifestyle? And that's when, again, I. Things flipped around for me where I realized, oh, I can actually design a career the way that I want.

To work for my life, and that is the basis of my company. Solve for Mom Now. And just to say that I hadn't actually thought about starting the company as I was doing this.

It was much later that I ended up starting the company.

But the thing that prompted the company starting is that all of my friends in town, the other moms and other adults I would speak to, would come up to me and start saying, oh, noki, I don't know how you do it all, because at this point, I'm working, I'm homeschooling, and, you know, just showing up in so many other ways.

And after it became a pattern where people would say that to me, and I was thinking, wow, this is weird, because I used to be the one who would look at other people and say, how. How is she doing it? All right? How's she so put together?

How she's so organized, and all of a sudden people are saying that to me, and that's when I'm like, oh, I can. I have something to share. So I started the podcast, which had a different name before it was Software mom was the podcast.

It has since changed to the name Science Careers for Moms. Took me a sec.

But when I started the podcast, it was a total passion project, and I was just sharing about how you can infuse critical thinking into your everyday lives.

As moms, we have more ownership in our lives than we realize, so it's talking about these things tangentially and using homeschooling as a good example. And then over time, I learned about maybe monetizing what I was talking about and then maybe niching in.

And as the entrepreneurial journey started solidifying for me, that's when I really came to what I do now, which is helping moms who work in STEM make career decisions very confidently so that they don't feel like they have to choose between career and. And motherhood. And, you know, we can.

I. I'm happy to go down any lane of discussion that you want to, but that might have been a little more background than you wanted.

No, that's exact. Yeah, that. No, perfect. That's exactly what we want.

Exactly. Because you just busted the myth that so many moms have. It's like, I can't. If I homeschool, I'm gonna have to give up my career.

I'm gonna have to give up my job, the things I really love outside of the home, to be a good mom, to be a good homeschooler. And you're just busting that myth.

And now yes and no. There is a growth to it, and I want to say, because you.

You took it full time, and then as you got the schooling under control, you realized you had more time and you gained competence. And so it's like, you're not gonna. You're not gonna tell your moms. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You just do this. You learned. You grew into that.

It's not something that. That a mom can just, oh, I'm going to stop my job and do this, and boom, it's all going to be there.

They're going to freak the heck out if they do that.

Yeah.

So. But you grew into it. It was so natural, the way you explained the story, and so that. That was beautiful. So thank you for doing that.

But also to know that it is possible to grow into it. It does take time, and it's worth it.

Yes, absolutely. Because, Christina, as you were starting to say, I want to just add even worse.

I've met women who think they can't become moms because in order to keep their career. So it. You know, it's even. I just find that really sad to. For a woman who chooses that path, that's totally different.

But I would never want a woman to be forced down that path that where she. She's pushed into a corner thinking she has to choose one or the other. And the same goes for homeschooling.

Like, to think that homeschooling is out of the picture, it's just. It's not what hardcore scientists do, you know, which is what I thought. So.

Yeah. Yeah. That's so beautiful because.

Yeah.

Like. Like we were talking about, you know, it's not one or the other. You can grow into both, as long as you come with the attitude that you came with.

Right. The curiosity, the how can I organize or strategize or whatever and make it happen for us and our family.

So I want to jump back to the boys real quick. So you had the one that was in kindergarten, so of course the other one was younger and then just decided to keep doing the homeschool thing.

Give us one of those days. You said the aha moments really light you up and really want you to keep going.

Talk about one of those challenging days, though, because it's something that also doesn't get talked about, is like, oh, we're going to have this beautiful homeschool and everything's going to work fine. Give us a challenging day and maybe how you kind of thought about it or worked around it.

Yeah. So one, I'm. I'll talk about My older son first, but he is very much similar to me. So we are very opinionated. We have lots of ideas, and we need.

Once we have an idea, we just need to see it through. Okay? And I love that about him. But then it's also really tricky sometimes for me to be in charge, let's say of the teaching environment and then.

Or the school environment and then for him to be the one that's learning and to say, okay, let's see where Mom's going with that. So what I'm trying to say is that we butt heads a lot because we both have strong opinions.

And so I would say that a lot of times that leads to some difficult moments. What has taken me probably longer than it should have is that I'm learning to let a lot of things go and let my kids take the lead.

And it's been a really beautiful thing to witness. So I am one of those people that likes to just plan things out so I know what's in the horizon.

And like I said, once I have an idea, I really want to see it through. So it took a bit of clenching my teeth and just stepping back and saying, okay, let's just see what. What's going to happen.

Relaxing, relaxing, relaxing.

When you see their confidence just build. And they're way more capable than we give them credit for. They have amazing ideas.

And one of the best things that I've seen is, now that I homeschool both my kids, is that my older son often will take charge of guiding my younger son. And so that's been great. And that wouldn't have happened had I not stepped back.

Another thing is that I really value a client, clean, organized house. It's just something I need. I need to walk into my door, my front door, and just feel like everything's in its place.

That's partially what makes it feel like home to me. It's really hard when we're homeschooling to see the mess. But another thing I've learned is that the mess is a good sign. It's a sign that.

That they're working through things, they're learning. And so I've come up with this middle ground. So where there are things that are difficult for you, sometimes there is a give and take to that moment.

So, for example, in this situation, I'm referring to where things just get really disorganized and I get. It's hard for me to think. I get flustered when I just see the mess. But I tell myself, okay, this is important to the learning process right now.

But don't worry, because when we're done, it's going to get cleaned up. And so we have a system in place where now the kids at the end of whatever we call done, they.

We all work together and we clean up and then reset before the next day.

Kind of stuff done's not done until the cleanup is done.

Right.

So it's not when the fun is done, it's like, no, you gotta teach the cleanup.

Yeah, exactly.

So, I mean, there's so many other little things that happen that just learn to adjust and find that middle ground where I've worked really hard to come up with a. Create what I think is a creative project.

I think they're gonna really sink their teeth into it, and then it's a bust or, I don't know, just things like that.

That happens in my classroom so many days.

You are on the verge of getting so much of your time back and learning so much. You. You said. I was like, I can't believe how much I'. It's like you have no idea.

Because pretty soon your kids are going to start learning what they want to learn. And then it's kind of funny because they pull the curriculum all around, whatever it is they're doing.

And then all day long, they're going to be coming up to you, mom, look at this. Mom, look at this. Mom, look. And.

And so they are going to be so enthusiastic that you're going to be learning stuff that you had no idea that you were going to be learning as soon as your kids take charge. Or has that already started happening?

For sure. My children are already learning about all kinds of tech and photography, digital photography, features and things.

They'll take over a lot of my digital tasks and do it for me because they think it's fun. And I'm like, oh, goodness, I got this kind of annoying task off my plate, and they think it's fun also. I would learn certain.

I was a very good student in school, but I learned certain subjects just for the sake of learning it for the test and then being done with it. It was like something I had to grit my teeth through. History was one of those things. It was never a forte,.

But I.

Was good at memorizing, so I'd memorize and do fine.

However, I am just loving history now, maybe because I'm learning it as an adult and I'm understanding the lessons that I see what happens in the world and I'm finally making connecting the dots. But I. I didn't have that perspective when I was growing up, or maybe it was being made for me and I just, it wasn't clear to me.

But now I'm learning this stuff as a. Teach it to my kids.

And as you know, I'm a very science and engineering heavy person, so all of my higher education was very much concentrated in all of that. So I didn't have to think about this stuff. And it's just been so fun. It's one of my favorite subjects now to teach.

Are you making it fun for your kids and are they enjoying it as much as you are?

They are. They ask for it all the time. It is actually a very strong subject area for my children, especially my older son.

And so I bring up my older son a lot more because I've had more years of homeschooling with him, so I have more examples to draw upon. But really, they're both really amazing kids. And yeah, he will remember from four years ago things that we learned.

So when he was like a first grader, even I will have forgotten the name or the, you know, event. I'll remember a little more broadly what the learning lesson out of that was.

And he would just like, mom, like the, you know, and he'll bring up some era.

Absolutely. Love that.

That is so cool because whenever that happens, you know, like you said, that love of learning, that confidence that happens because they're in the process of learning and they remember for a longer time.

And then, of course, we also have brought this into a lot of times, the fun, the activity, the hands on, how do we make it real to the kiddos so that it does stick with them longer than just learning for a test. And one of the biggest differences around homeschool is that that you can really bring it to life for them. So kudos for all of that.

And one of the things you brought up was how you and your son butt heads, right? And one of the things that we work with with our parents is that we want you to pay attention to the child's learning styles and their personalities.

Because we as teachers, we as moms, we're like, oh, we want to teach the way we learned best, or we think it should happen. But when we actually dig into our child's learning style or child's personality, my.

Kids so much like me. I bet you he learns just like me. And not always.

Yes, that was definitely something that I, I came across too. So I know exactly what you guys are talking about.

Yeah.

So how did you work around that? What. What was, how long did that take? And. And how did you. How did you work through that?

Yeah, so I had to. I read a lot of books and listened to podcasts and stuff. So that is kind of where I started to learn about child led learning.

And I would notice things that would light them up or recall ways when things that maybe they were struggling with or that I was trying to teach them and what ended up working, you know, just in life, for example, not biting your nails or something like that. Right. And then I realized, oh, when we read a book about that, that worked really well versus having a discussion or. Right.

So then it made me realize that one of my kids learned really well by getting the information through text and seeing pictures and things like that, also understanding what their passions are, what, what lights them up and then infusing that in there as well. So, for example, of course I want my kids to master writing skills, but writing is so many things, right?

It's the idea, you know, communicating the idea, getting it on paper. Maybe the physical part of writing, it's. There's so many different components to it.

Right.

The polished version, the dirty version. So one of my kids really loves choreographing battle scenes and just acting the scenes out.

So as part of writing, sometimes for creative writing, instead of having him write, I will mix it up and I'll just let him narrate and he'll be making all the sound effects and movements as he's narrating the story.

And I just use a little recorder to get it down and then it translates it onto paper and I show him, this is the story you came up, but this is what it would look like if it had been written down. And then, you know, I maybe have him write a couple of the lines down himself because those were his own words.

And then sometimes we do it the old fashioned way and we have him. Right. But, you know, so that just makes it a little more fun when I let them learn the way that they express things fast. Yeah.

All right, so now, now we're having lots of good stories. Now let's talk about the downside. Let's talk about how weird your children are now that they're homeschooled.

The weirdest. Oh my goodness.

How they can't talk to people out in public and about how they're scared to, to just run up and say hello to anyone.

Oh my goodness. Yeah, I can't bring them anywhere. They're never going to fit into society. They are never going to get a job nor go to college.

Right.

I am kidding about all of that. I Get lots of comments all the time. First of all, we had a really, we have a really great active homeschooling group.

It took me a while to figure out how to find, you know, other homeschoolers in my town because I happen to be, yeah, I happen to be in one of those towns where we have a really great school system. And so it's just kind of the thing people do, you know, like homeschooling isn't really thought much of here. Not thought much of.

You know what I mean? It doesn't come across people's minds that much because why not?

You're in a good school system. Why would you bother taking your kids out of school?

Exactly. Yeah, exactly. However slowly, slowly we have.

I have come across other families in my town, I've recruited a couple families in my town into homeschooling. And then when you add up all the neighboring towns, there's so many, so many. And I don't really do the whole Facebook thing, so I haven't.

That's why it took me a little longer. If you're on Facebook or other community sites, you'll find your tribe much sooner than me. I just, I don't do social media really, so.

And that is why it took me a little longer. But almost all of the people we met was through word of mouth. And it is a pretty large group now that I've discovered where everyone hides.

And also my kids are still very much involved in town sports and activities. So they have plenty of friends in town. Wherever we go, they still get invited to all the birthday parties of the traditional school going kids.

And I'm trying to think, so there's a social component. My kids don't. They're age blind. Literally age blind.

They will talk to an 80 year old person, a college age person and a 3 year old exactly the same way. Exactly the same way. And well, maybe the high school counselors at their summer camps they have a soft spot for, they know are like super cool.

But yeah, they are able to talk to people. I get comments all the time, compliments all the time about how they carry themselves and I mean, of course they're still kids.

They're things that they have to work on.

But people are surprised when I hand them my wallet at the grocery store and I have them go check out for me at the grocery store and then practice doling out the money and making sure they get the right change and making eye contact with whoever's working at the register and not because they lack that skill anymore. I just Just want them to keep doing it. But it, it, it's, you know, has helped them tremendously everywhere.

But that's something they get to practice because they're not confined to a building all day.

And those are the skills that, you know, we, we talk about constantly. It's like you want your child full of those life skills, not just the academic skills.

And when we talk about homeschool, it's not just academics, it's the body, mind, spirit, is that family connection that you really want within your family. And I hear you talking about that. You know, the boys get along pretty good most of the time.

Most of the time they are really good friends. And like I said, my younger one sort of idolizes his best friend is he considers is his older brother. My older son is.

Of course they have their squabbles. There are definitely things where they might argue over something that we have one of or whatever.

But outside of that, I feel like the luckiest person for having the family that I have. But my older son, he never excludes anyone and he's really generous.

And so I think that one of the best blessings I have gotten through this whole homeschooling experience is that my husband and I were able to sit down and decide what I are our core values, what are our family values, what is important to us. And of course you do some of that when you become parents generally.

But we were able to very intentionally make that a part of our lives because our kids are with us. Whether we're at home or not, they're with us. Right? So we can infuse those values into our day to day. And just what I had to differentiate.

One of the reasons I was okay with homeschooling, you know, even though I was kicking and screaming, one of the reasons which finally kind of made me say, okay, I'm going to pull you out of school, is that I could tell my younger, my son, my older son at the time was conflating school and learning. And so they're really different things.

And it took me a second, but then I recognized by the stuff he was saying, I realized that whatever issues he was having with being in a school, like being in a building, he was transferring over to. That's what learning is. And I realized, because I love learning. I just told you that. And so. And I had the best school experience.

That's why I was a little sad when we pulled him out, because I had the most amazing school experience. I loved every. I was that person who looked forward to going back to school. That Wanted to learn everything.

And so I was a little sad, but, but to me it was more important that he loved to learn, just like I love to learn, just like my husband loves to learn.

And so I said, hey, if we can infuse the, the, you know, that, delineate that for him, I guess and show that he is a, he can like learning, then, then that, that's, you know, one of my, that was one of my goals and a core value for us.

School and learning are not the same thing. So we've broken now two of the biggest myths. The third biggest myth is I don't have time for this. It's going to take me six, eight hours a day.

I have to, because I have to replicate school. I have to do all of it. It's like, how much time are you actually doing the, the curriculum?

Because, because as, as a teacher for 27 years and someone who spent a lot of time in her classroom, her teaching time each day was actually only two to three hours in a six or seven hour day. And, but, but moms and outside of the, you don't see that. So how much time does it really take to spend with your kids in the school?

And then how much of the rest of the time of the day do you spend with them in enjoyment and.

Yeah.

And working your business while they are bored, which is a good thing. And then learning because they want to.

All right, So a couple people had told me when I was talking to them about potentially homeschooling. They said, oh, you know, it really, you're talking about two, three hours max, like at that age, the kindergarten age, maybe even one to two hours.

And I just didn't believe them. I really didn't. I thought, no, but not me and not my kids.

Right?

And I was really shocked. And then I was thinking, what it, what are kids doing all day? And like I said, I love school, but I was just thinking, what did I do for eight?

They're being taught to only talk to people in their own age group. And then to be traumatized for 15 minutes a day while there's no group around to be, yeah, what, what's happening in school?

Oh, yeah. So I was just thinking, but they, you know, it's so great because they get to be outside and play whether it's snowy or it's a sunny day or rainy.

You know, there is so much other stuff that we're doing. So I'll definitely talk about that more.

But just to let you know, after a couple weeks of homeschooling and Like I said, I just couldn't believe that we were getting done as fast as we were. So I thought that I was missing something, right? So I finally, I was like, okay, I. I'm an analytical person. I'm really detail oriented.

I said, I have to see what's going on here. And I had to map it out. So I took. I downloaded the entire state. You call that. Oh, my goodness.

Curriculum guide? Yeah, the standards.

Yeah, the state standards. That's it, the state standards. And I downloaded the whole thing for every subject, for the grade that my child was in.

And I took every subject, mapped it out for an entire year. They say, you should do this, this, this, this, Right. And Massachusetts has a very detailed one. And so I mapped it all out.

So I took the entire school year, broke it week by week by week, mapped it out, then said, okay, so based on the curriculum we have, we'd have to do this chapter. And this week, da, da, da, planned it all out. And I was like, wow. So then I said, okay, it works out.

Of course we do more than just what the state standard holds. But I just wanted to make sure I was. At least they were learning at peer level.

And when I tried to follow a day that just had what the state standards was offering, we were done in that time, no problem. Like, no problem. Like half that time. And so I finally proved to myself, okay, yeah, this is actually the case. I'm not missing anything.

And then guess what we did with the extra time, we were able to move forward academically on the subjects that my kids really wanted to dive deeper in.

Yes.

So we're several grades ahead.

If you want to talk about grades like, you know, I don't know how you map it out exactly, but just based off of curriculum, we know that our kids are several grades ahead on certain subjects and then with the rest of the day. So often I just give like the morning half of my day is sort of for desk time and more of the academic enrichment stuff.

Then we'll have lunch and then afterwards will be. This is on a typical day.

And then afterwards is all the hands on stuff, like maybe extra experiments or doing stuff outside or errands or projects and things like that, or they're exploring on their own, whatever. Yeah.

External activities.

Yeah, I mean, sometimes that was in the morning. It depending on if I outsource some of that. Like we had an amazing art teacher that we would go to classes to in her studio, Things like that.

I also try to build in field trips as many days a week as I Can. But at least one day were proper, like go drive somewhere and do that. We didn't.

We weren't tied to a school schedule for doing, for traveling, so we'd somehow.

The curriculum was a couple hours a day and then the rest of the day was building the memories that you are going to have for the rest of your life of times growing with your family.

Exactly, exactly. And also just knowing that I had time to work on my professional work and my entrepreneurial work and I was able to kind of manage it.

Now some of my work I did do in the evenings, but that was my choice because that's just how I set it up with my clients and things like that.

The flexibility is outstanding. If you did. If you had the time in the morning and your kids were evening people, you'd do it in the morning.

That's the amazing thing about this, is your schedule just flows into something that fits your whole family. Instead of having to be. I have to be here at this time to drop my kids off in this time.

And now this afternoon I have to reschedule all of my people because I have to go visit the teacher. And. And now it's like you are the teacher. You get to visit her every day and know what your children are doing.

Yes. And we try to maximize interactions, let's say, with the grandparents. We're lucky that all four grandparents are nearby.

And so, you know, we had them spend time during the week, school week with them as well.

Sometimes they had skills that they would were teaching my kids, you know, cooking, handwriting, things like that that they excelled in, that they were willing to do.

People still do that?

Yes. Please, please, please teach your children handwriting.

Yes, yes. Handwriting is very important. So, yeah.

You are amazing. I am so glad that this journey has been so amazing for you and awesome for your kids as well. And thank you for sharing. And.

And now I want to give you some space also to talk about how else do you help the moms? Right.

How do you help these other moms create that work life balance or choose to homeschool because they know that they're not really giving up as much as they think they're giving up. Tell us a little bit about what you do with clients now, please.

Oh, yes. Thank you so much for giving me this chance. So, yeah, I want to say I take a very squishy problem, emotional problem.

Right.

Where these women feel very torn in different directions. And when they do try to do both, they feel very fragmented.

And I am using a systems based approach, a stepwise framework that to help them be able to. And the key here is integrating career and life because often you'll hear about people talking about work life, balance, right?

And I, I do think balance is possible. The problem is it's very trendy for influencers to be out there saying that work life balance is not possible for women.

And I think I mentioned to you, Christina, that that comes on a little harder for women in higher skilled knowledge, work type areas.

And so what I am trying to do is help them be able to find that integration that the problem that many of us have is that we silo everything we say, okay, I'm gonna. This part of my day is for career and this part of my day is, you know, for life stuff and motherhood.

And so so the way you integrate it is actually to flip everything around and to start with planning your life.

And I'm talking about high level, like talking about what are your values, what is your vision, what is your purpose in doing what you do in your life and figuring those things out and then funneling that down to what are your goals and then funneling that down even more to the granular day to day decisions and actions that you want to take. How do you manage your time and energy and relationships and things like that? So that is what I teach.

When you have that figured out for your life, then career is just one. It's one component in that whole picture.

And if you constantly are able to keep that picture in mind when you are making decisions about your job, should I take that job or not, Should I accept that promotion, Should I work remotely or not?

Whatever your decisions that you are facing, including project based decisions, become like they snap into clarity immediately because you have that life picture, the life plan figured out.

So you use that as a filter and you're able to say, okay, now I have the confidence to make this decision because every decision I make I am confident is going to move me closer to this goal, to this life that I have. And that's how they work in synchrony. So maybe that was a little longer than you wanted, but my website is solveformom.com I'm changing it up a bit.

So if you do go there and it looks a little different, that is why. And my podcast is Science Careers for Moms. And you can find me on LinkedIn. I have, you know, under my name, Anoki Kapasi.

And you can find me on LinkedIn on my personal page or you can find the solve for mom company page on LinkedIn. So those are the best ways and Very soon. It's in development right now.

I'm talking about in a week or two, my online career alignment diagnostic will be available. And I will share that link with you, Christina Nurb.

But I will leave that for anyone who ever is in that position about wondering what's not working between their career and their motherhood. Take this. It'll identify the biggest friction point, let's say, and help you make those changes, at least the first couple changes.

So, yeah, thank you.

I was just gonna ask you. That was the next question, like, how do you get a hold of you and of course, everything is down in the show notes.

So ladies and gentlemen, people who are listening, you know, dive into those show notes because not only is there the information of our guests or bio and things like that, how to connect with them, but also usually there's a free gift down there.

Like Anoki was just saying, there's a free gift in there for you and just different ways to connect and really make the show work for you and your family. So thank you for sharing that. And I love how, you know, it's not necessarily balanced like you said, but integrating. Right.

And really following on those goals and those values that you hold dear.

Because it's pretty easy when your value is family and it's not on your calendar to see, oops, am I living up to that value or is this activity matching up with my value of kindness and generosity or whatever it happens to be. And it's an easier yes and no because you know that you had that planned out. So I love that, the way you describe that. Thank you.

And I'll give a pro tip here. Yeah, it's a fun little exercise for anyone who wants to go open up your calendar right now.

Whether it's digital or a planner, your calendar should be a reflection of the life you want to have. The values that you have. Right.

If you value family time, but on your calendar, you haven't blocked out any time to spend with your family, then something isn't working right, or whatever your values are. Your calendar should be that in. In action, you know, in time. So, yeah, it's a fun thing to just double check if you're on the right track or not.

Thank you so very, very much. This has been an amazing show. I. I love the depth that you have gone into. I love the generosity of ideas and stories that you've shared as well.

This has been an amazing show and I really hope it is a great inspiration for all of those who are like, oh, can I really do this? And yes, you can.

Yes. And I would like to thank you for being here today, too. You know, you started about six years ago, five years ago, and still.

That was still kind of the dark ages of homeschooling. And you actually then started helping other moms out there. So a lot of times homeschoolers, it's like, nope, keep it low.

So I don't get bugged about it, but you put yourself out there. I'm sure you got bugged about it.

Again just today, Right?

And so you. You put it out there anyway, and you're smiling and you're happy and you present it, and you are an awesome ambassador for homeschooling.

So thank you so much for being here today. Thank you for putting yourself out there. That's what heroes do.

And so thank you for being a hero and actually stepping out and making the world a better place.

Oh, that's so sweet. Thank you, guys. You guys have been really gracious hosts and for having me on the show and offering this platform. So I really appreciate it.

Thank you.

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