Diane Goldner, a world-renowned healer and professor at Dead University, joins Allison DuBois to explore the transformative power of energy healing, particularly for emotional wounds rooted in childhood. The discussion highlights how emotional issues can manifest as physical ailments and emphasizes the importance of addressing these underlying feelings for true healing. Diane shares her journey from a skeptical journalist to a devoted healer, illustrating the profound impact of her work on clients dealing with infertility and chronic pain. The episode also touches on the significance of gratitude in the healing process and the necessity of self-reflection in breaking generational patterns. Together, Allison and Diane delve into the complexities of healing relationships, both with ourselves and others, encouraging listeners to embrace their own healing journeys.

Welcome to the Dead Life.

Here's world renowned medium Alison dubois.

Today on the Dead Life, we welcome Diane Goldner, world renowned healer, Dead University's professor of healing.

She was a journalist who started investigating energy healing for an investigative journalistic story.

Diane came in feeling skeptical and then she became a convert who gave up her path in journalism to become an extraordinary healer who loves helping couples with infertility issues.

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So, Diane, welcome back.

It's great to be here.

Oh, it's always great to have you.

I'm sorry that it's taken this long for us to reconnect.

What a year, huh?

It's what a year.

The timing is always perfect.

So this is perfect.

That was a year of transformation.

And people think of the word trans as oh, yay.

We see the good things.

It's going to get us where we need to go.

But it's much like childbirth.

It's ugly and painful.

And we're going into a nine year, a year of endings which will end things the way they've been in the last nine years and then even before that because Pluto went into Aquarius.

But that's a whole other subject.

Can you use light work to heal emotional wounds?

Oh, my God, for sure.

In fact, I would say that almost all physical issues really start on other levels, the emotional level being one.

So, so you can have, you know, years go by and then all of a sudden you wonder why you're not, you don't feel well, but it's emotions that have been, you don't even realize what the emotions are.

They're kind of locked up in your energy field and an energy healing will start releasing them.

And as your emotions flow, you will feel better, your relationships get better.

And do you do that, do you do that through like visualization techniques or how does that work in healing?

When I'm doing a healing, it really works with me going into somebody's energy field.

It's literally like we begin vibrating.

I can really feel what a person is experiencing, maybe on a deeper level than they're conscious of.

What's coming to my mind is a man who had lost the hearing in one ear and was.

They had just found a shadow in the other ear and so they were concerned it was a tumor in the first year and they were concerned he was getting a tumor in the second year.

That would be a concern.

Yeah, yeah.

Totally deaf.

Yes.

So he wasn't the kind of guy.

He was a hard charging executive.

I tend to see more of those and maybe some healers who did not believe in healing.

But a friend of him said, what do you have to lose?

Right.

You're hearing well and you come from that background as well, like you didn't know what to make of it.

So I think that's reassuring to people.

Yeah.

And I speak that language, so that's also reassuring.

So anyway, when I started doing the healing, I saw him as a child.

Since we're talking about childhood wounds, that's why I'm bringing this one up.

I saw him as a child.

He had been a long distance swimmer and I saw him swimming in the ocean and so happy.

Happy because all the sound is muffled when you're swimming in the ocean, in any water.

Right.

You don't really hear what else is going on.

And so I asked what was it he didn't want to hear?

And it was his father yelling at him.

So this is how these emotions that get stuck in our body can really have a long term effect.

They manifest all of that.

I told him what I had seen and what I did and he, he just looked at me in complete shock.

It's like, oh my God, you've just described my whole childhood.

So very often what I'm really working on, even when I'm working on a physical issue, is emotions or beliefs or thoughts that are no longer serving the person.

You know, it's so interesting to see the different methods of healing that can be used.

And almost everything goes back to our childhood.

And it's more incentive for parents to really work with their kids in childhood because it sets the tone for a lot of people's lives.

It does.

But you know, the thing is, most people are Just human.

And so they've come with their own childhood wounds, and it goes from generation to generation.

And unless you say the bug stops.

Here, Karmic patterns that you have to.

Break your karma patterns.

And they're tough, you know, and everyone has them.

So one of the things that helps break these patterns is, you know, a lot of times we turn around and then we're angry that our parents have these patterns, you know, that, you know, the father was an alcoholic or, you know, the parents didn't get along, whatever it was.

And you know, that anger is a binding force to the same energies that you want to heal from.

So the best thing.

And I've had clients where I've told them they should do a practice of gratitude, and they're like, going to do that.

But truly, it is very healing.

And I'm concerned, you know, just heal yourself, and it's going to heal you.

You don't have to worry whether it's healing somebody else.

I'm not suggesting it to heal somebody else.

But literally, if you think internally, not, you know, not at a party.

Right time and place, but internally, you.

Know, in a little meditation, you just go in, close your eyes, and you start thanking somebody for the very thing that is causing you so much pain.

And it is magical.

Maybe not at once, but eventually you'll see that there's some kind of gift for you.

And because a lot of our wounds make us who we are in life.

The adversity.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, yeah.

Although at the end of the day, we're better off without those ones.

Right.

I find what helps me is going in recognizing there's little Allison, you know, the child that I.

That I was, that's still part of me.

You know, there were.

On a soul level, they're still part of us.

And I became the mother that I didn't have.

And I find that a lot of people heal those wounds through becoming the person that they wished had been there for them, for their own children.

Absolutely.

I.

First of all, you can do it for your own inner child.

It's healing.

It works.

So healing, you just, you know, you.

I mean, we all have different parts.

So you become the mother, right, to your inner child, and you comfort that inner child.

You let them know you love them and that everything is safe.

And that's extremely healing.

But also, what you said, when you become a parent, it is so healing to give the child, your child, the love that an experience that you felt you didn't have.

In my own personal situation, I find a lot of people have something similar.

There is a karmic pattern in my family of the women relying on men, you know, which is why I was so ambitious and motivated, you know, to make my own money and to teach my girls that they could make their own money.

But also taking my girls to the fair, taking them out of school and eating funnel cake and going on rides and playing as many games as they wanted to, was also healing the inner child in me, because I was providing it for them, but also for myself in being, like, allowing myself to be a child that I wasn't always allowed to be in my childhood.

So you can do those things as well.

I kind of joke, but it's true.

I have a young son, and I always say I'm having the boyhood I never had.

I'm sure he's very lucky.

You take him everywhere.

That is so nice.

So it's funny when I interview someone else who is psychic or dialed in or living in the ethereal, because I notice my questions will go in line to whatever maybe you had wanted to talk to or you start talking about something I had wanted to talk about.

So, like, my second question is, what kind of issues do your clients come to you looking to heal?

And you literally just gave an example of a man who used to swim long distance as a child.

I love that.

I love that.

So with the healing that we do with emotional wounds, we collect emotional wounds.

It was a hard, hard year.

Which eight years are there to challenge us.

Can you use these methods to sort of heal that within you?

Because we have a lot of crime right now.

We're seeing a lot of what becomes controversial that in another day and time wouldn't have been controversial.

And where you grapple with that, with social media, because, for instance, the man that killed the health care CEO, he.

He, you know, people are online saying, he's so sexy, you know, I want to date you.

And I'm like, who raised these people?

Seriously?

Like, I get being mad at.

At the insurance companies or the health care industry.

At the same time, this is somebody's husband and father.

And where's your humanity for them?

Because they didn't do anything.

Very complicated issue, of course.

I mean, murder is not the answer, right?

I mean, there's just no.

No place or time, right?

I mean, we don't just get to kill people.

We're in a civilized society.

That's what that is supposed to be for.

I mean, I have so much to say about this.

I mean, first of all, I mean, it's brought up, I think so many people are frustrated.

Um, and it's brought that to the surface.

I don't know what's going to happen with that.

And, you know, when I.

When this first happened, I just thought to myself, I mean, I do have compassion for him because he's suffering so much physically that his mind is probably of.

You know, when you're in so much pain, it's just.

You just want to die, basically.

And so I think that's the place where he was.

And so he turned that out.

But, you know, I just thought to myself, oh, my God, I wish he had called me or some other healer, because the pain that he's in could have been ameliorated, helped.

I think he might have gone down a psychological rabbit hole because they interviewed old roommate of his who was in a book club with him and said, hey, let's read a book on the Unabomber.

Okay?

Weird suggestion, but okay.

And so that's what it seemed to take some psychosis that this man had and sent him down that path.

This is just my interpretation of my sense of what happened, but it seemed to send him down that path and gave him an idea that allowed him to have some sort of a target in mind to take out his pain, anger, frustration, but also mental health issues on this poor man that was literally shot in the back.

I know.

I mean, you know, I mean, there's.

Again, there's so much to say about this.

First of all, you know, you do get a vibrational experience when you read a text.

That's why if you read, you know, I'm not suggesting you read the Bible, but if you read the Bible, you know, it's.

It is uplifting compared to reading the Unabomber.

Right, right, right.

Yeah, very true.

And, you know, so.

Because I think a lot of people are empaths and don't realize it, and they'll go into the person's story and they start feeling.

Feeling that person's impulses and identifying with it and maybe even relating to it.

So, yeah, it happens all the time.

You know, you read, you know, whatever books you read, that's what you start focusing on.

Right.

So you become part of the story.

Yeah, it's interesting.

So he went down that.

But, you know, he also.

I go back to the physical pain he was in because I think we can't understand how.

Because he had a back injury or surgery on his back, he may have been on oxycodone or medication of some Sort.

I suspect that his lawyers will maybe even use an insanity plea.

That has a very low percentage of success of actually working.

You would know better.

I think it's somewhere around 2%, really, that actually succeed with that defense.

So it's.

It's rare to get an outcome there.

I feel for the man who committed the act in the sense that.

And Tom and I have run charts on serial killers and people who do negative things, and you can see the markers that were there in their birth chart when they were born.

But then mental health issues, or they just chose the easy path.

Those are choices when it's choosing a path of what to do.

Did you and Tom look at his chart?

I'll have to have Tom look at his chart.

We just did the Menendez brothers, He looked at their charts, which was very eye opening.

But there's two different real paths you can take in life.

One's constructive, one's destructive, and when they become destructive, they destroy those around them.

And that's what this young man did.

So even if they're able to show that he was inhibited by the medication because of the planning that went into this actual crime, you know, malice aforethought that happened, getting out of what he did is extremely unlikely, and he's gonna be on a very ugly path for a very long time.

Maybe they'll end up figuring out what's wrong with him.

But I do think there's some mental health issues where the brain or whatever's going on and their wires are crossed or it continues to deteriorate and it never gets better with time.

So, you know, I feel sorry for a soul that was born into maybe a sick body or a body that was sort of defective.

However, you know, we all make choices, and just because somebody ticks me off, I don't get to blow them away on the street.

I mean, nobody would run that, right?

I'm curious.

You been able to tap into the CEO who passed?

You know, Norway?

I could.

Honestly, I mean, I could.

Normally, I don't do readings unless it's for a family member, because I need that energy to connect me, like, triangulate the messages from them.

But I'm sure just from the 25 years I've been doing this professionally, I'm positive that his time is being spent around his living family right now.

His wife, his children, being worried about them, trying to let them know that he's here, that he's not gone, which is so frustrating for them when they're talking to you constantly.

And you can't hear them and they know why, but it's they then they try and work through your friends and your family in dreams or in messages to get that, to convey that to you so that you don't hurt as much.

Their whole intention is to try and ease our pain.

He wouldn't be worried about himself.

He'd be very much worried about them and people.

He's okay.

He'd be okay.

Absolutely.

He would have, he would have crossed, it seemed like he crossed pretty instantly in the passing.

And often they don't even know, especially with like a gunshot that delivers that blow to you, the death blow.

They do know immediately when they're on the other side because they're looking at their body.

So they're aware that something happened.

But he wouldn't have known why the man did that to him.

So it's very sad to see that then somebody appears from the other side or that was waiting for him, that's a relative that knew he was going to die and they would have explained to him what happened.

And when we're in the ethereal, we're sort of all knowing in a sense of understanding and we're on high definition on a soul level.

And he would have probably thought what a sad reason to take my life.

You know, like he lost his life in that moment.

And as far as he knew, everything was great.

Now the holidays will be terrible for his family forever, for the rest of their lives.

It will remind them of what was happening.

And people get in this fight with the man capitalism or the healthcare industry and they focus their energy there without having any resolution of their own.

They're not helpful.

The other point I want to make about this, which isn't about the CEO or anything like that, is in my experience some of these kinds of health issues that people have that very chronic and very challenging, it is hard to get complete relief from the equipment Western medicine has.

True.

And that's something that I hope will eventually get addressed because the energy treatments do alleviate pain in a different way than taking a drug which masks it, but it doesn't alleviate it.

So would a person that is in say chronic pain?

We'll use that as an example.

Yeah.

Would they be able to say, read your book and start implementing some of the methods that you teach in being able to self heal?

Yeah, absolutely.

You know, it's a really complicated thing.

I think that it's really important to do your own healing work because you're with yourself.

20 Nobody's with you as much as you're with yourself.

Nobody Knows your body as well, right?

Yeah.

And on the other hand, I think some of these things are so deep that it is helpful to have help.

And it's just hard to do a very deep healing journey completely.

I don't know anyone who does completely herself.

So I think it's okay.

You know, people don't have to feel that they have to do it by themselves because.

So is it like with other forms of light work, where you could do it in small groups or with other people trying to heal or have healing groups together where you do light work and practice on each other?

Absolutely.

You know, I mean, what Jesus said, I'll quote the master healer.

Happy Hanukkah, by the way.

Is, you know, where two or more are gathered in my name, there will I be.

And there is something about somebody else witnessing or being present either in your pain or just your soul, that that alone is healing.

But, you know, I'm thinking, you know, I just worked with a woman recently who has a chronic.

I forget even the name of the illness because I focus more on the energy.

Right.

And she had a spike.

She has a.

Like a blood cancer, and.

And it's chronic.

And she had a spike where her platelet levels just, like, shot up to the point where it was like, whoa.

You know, her doctors were totally freaked out.

And I did a heal.

And, you know, I can't even.

I just.

I think I just soothed her energy and released some of the stress she was under.

She was under a lot of stress from work and things like that.

And within two weeks, you know, the next time they tested, her platelets had dropped dramatically.

I mean, she was in a complete health crisis.

So, you know, I think on her own, it probably would have been hard to accomplish that so quickly.

So there's power in numbers, like a coven, in a sense, where you bring together a group of people and you focus your energy together to heal.

I love that.

Absolutely.

And then there's also, you know, I mean, somebody, you know, like me, who.

Or an acupuncturist who's going to really be able to identify what energies need to shift and shift them.

So both are great.

I love that.

I think the more the merrier.

Do everything.

Everything.

I'm a big proponent of Eastern and Western medicine and finding whatever balance works for you in your life and your health.

I just ordered oregano oil capsules because my daughter has, like, sometimes you get, like, an intestinal infection.

You know, her digestion's not good, and that works.

You know, it's not Western Medicine, it's more holistic.

It grows in the earth.

It's something natural.

And now this is a far cry away from trying to treat something that's terminal.

But I'm just saying there are remedies that don't have to be invasive, that can help you in your daily life.

And oregano oil seems to be one of those really great things to take.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, as I say, I believe in doing everything right.

You know, I mean, even the example I just gave of this woman I was working with, you know, she went to her doctor and that's how she knew she was in such a crisis.

Right.

And it was really important to go to the doctor and, you know, so.

Yeah, I mean, there's, there's a lot of different methods.

People need to do their homework and then try something and see how it works for them and maybe even keep a little log of the information and how you feel.

Or maybe it doesn't help you and you can rule it out as something that your body reacts well to, but people need to be more hands on.

And I think sometimes the doctors can be quick in handing over pills that have more terrible side effects than what they're actually treating in your body.

Yeah, I mean, that does happen.

I mean, in this case, you know, she was on.

She's on a drug, and yet the drug wasn't sufficient at that moment.

Right.

So that happens too.

So, yeah, I mean, there's.

Yes.

I'm just always taken aback.

It's like, take this for eggs and then it'll say, but it could kill you.

Yes.

It's like, maybe we could try some steroid cream and not.

There is a reason for that.

And that is because you're suppressing, you know, the, the reason you're having whatever it is, eczema or whatever has to.

There's underlying reasons.

And when you suppress the, you know, the, the manifestation, your body will often do something else because it has to express this problem one way or another.

I'm so curious with you because we're under the same umbrella, but sort of in different corners of the ethereal.

Do people ever ask you?

Because I've been asked this a couple of times to go in, if there's somebody in a coma in the hospital and work on them, do they bring you in for that sort of session?

Yes, yes.

In fact, yes, I've done that several times and I've brought people out of comas.

So one.

One of the cases that I'm thinking of right now, the parents, not the parents the children called me.

The mother was in the hospital, and she'd gone in for kidney stones.

Okay.

And then she developed sepsis, and then she went into a coma.

I mean, it was horrific, right?

And the doctors had told the family that they should prepare for the fact that she was going to pass.

And so they called me, and, I mean, she was in a terrible state, you know, and they called me, and they asked if I would help.

And I was actually pregnant with my son at the time.

And I went into the hospital.

I was like, should I really be doing this?

Yeah, Right.

I know.

I went in and I did a healing.

And lo and behold, to my surprise, I was able to connect to her consciousness, and she wanted to come back.

She was like.

There was not even a shadow of a doubt for her.

She was like, I want to come back.

Right.

So I worked with that, and.

And I.

You know, sometimes you have to go on faith because all of the outer signs were that she was about to pass.

Right.

But I had to convey this message that she wanted to come home.

And then I did a second healing, and she came back.

She woke up.

Oh, amazing.

It was amazing.

She had some pretty serious damage from the sepsis.

Her toes had gotten blackened.

Sepsis is a horrific infection.

Yeah.

But she made it.

She's still alive.

This was like, I mean, 15 years ago or something.

Her kids got her back 12 years ago, and she's living at home.

She's, you know.

Well, and just so my listeners understand, you know, I.

When I entered into what I do in mediumship, you know, what do I do?

I go to a laboratory to be studied by scientists because I want to know why I can do what I do.

And so I spent four years doing that.

My point is.

Yeah, my point is I'm open to other areas under the ethereal umbrella.

And I've been learning so much over the last 20 years about astrologers and tarot readers and healers and potion makers, even, and.

And Diane was somebody I called years ago when my friend Michelle was dying and she was stage four cancer.

She was in a horrible place.

She had days, maybe days to live.

Michelle had shrunk so much from her chemotherapy and everything she went through, and she was the sweetest soul who had two little girls.

So my Hail Mary was Diane.

I called Diane in and said, could you please see if it'll help?

Like, I was open to it.

You know, I think people should give everything a shot and be open to the opportunity to have it be successful.

Maybe it.

Maybe it's Not.

But maybe it does.

And we have to.

Yeah.

And she.

You bought her, pushed it into remission for four years.

She got four more years with her beautiful little girls.

And I know that meant everything to the family and her husband Steve.

So I've actually seen it when everything was tried and.

And healer Diane here was brought in and sort of worked with Michelle's energy, who I'm sure didn't want to go because she was a mother and being a mother was everything to her.

Yeah.

You know, when I went to see her, I have to say, she was so sick, I thought, oh, my God.

I mean, she has maybe a week left.

Yeah.

And I was like, I don't.

You know, I always hold open the possibilities, but I thought to myself, oh, my God, you know, I mean, I don't know how much I can do here.

She did not look well.

I mean, she was.

She was in a bad state and she had no.

You know, her spirit was mostly gone.

But, you know, the interesting thing was she didn't want to leave, but her parents had recently left, and she was so devastated by that.

And I was able to show her that her children needed her.

Yeah.

And that is what brought her back.

Well, we were just very grateful.

And I believe in light work.

And so for those of you that are out there that want to try learning it.

Diane teaches in many forums of healing, including Dead University and.

Have you written a couple of books?

How many books do you.

I've written three.

I'm working on a fourth right now, but I've written three books.

And the first one, how people Heal, has a lot about the science because I was an investigative reporter looking at that.

The second one, Awakening to the Light, is my.

My personal experience how I went from being a journalist to a healer, which was quite wonderful and traumatic.

Lawyer, medium.

Come on, I got it.

And the third one is, you know, case studies and different meditations and ways you can look at what's going on with you to help unravel whatever energy is causing you not to feel well.

And so for the next.

So for self healing, what book would you recommend?

I would recommend.

You know, that's a really good question.

I'd recommend yes, you can Heal, and.

That'S available at Amazon and.

Yeah, it's available.

That's the best way to get it.

And the first book, how people Heal, if you really don't believe in it and you want to know how it's working, you could read that.

Okay.

Yeah.

I love that you have a focus of something that you really Enjoy in healing, which is infertility in couples.

Can you talk a little about that?

Yeah.

You know, the thing about that is it's joyful.

Right.

And you used it on yourself.

You scared every woman over 45.

Oh my God.

We're like, no.

Well, I.

You know, this is one of those examples.

I did have.

Help.

Help.

You know, it's.

There's nothing wrong with, you know, doing IVF or whatever you need to do if you really want to have a baby.

Yes.

So it's not one or the other, but even so, sometimes you need a little magic.

It was still extraordinary.

I don't even care if you got some western help there.

How old were you when you had your son?

I never tell anyone.

Oh, I tell everyone.

I'm so sorry.

I didn't know.

I didn't know it was a secret.

But I consider myself the patient saint of older moms.

But I have helped younger women too.

I mean, women in their twenties have trouble too sometimes.

And, you know, and young women seem.

To have more problems now than I've ever seen in our lifetime as far as fertility issues.

And it's disturbing.

I hope they get to the bottom of that because it's unnatural, actually.

It is unnatural.

I mean, the people that I worked with, I can tell you what they're.

I mean, one of them.

Which, you know, might go to the point of the unnatural.

I mean, this was a long, long time ago.

It was the daughter of one of my regular clients at the time and she'd gotten married and all of her friends were starting to have babies and she wasn't getting pregnant and she was really upset about it.

So I did a healing and, you know, I cannot make this stuff up.

It was really in her case, you know, she came from a very well to do family and she'd spent all her life up to that point making sure she didn't get pregnant.

Right.

Panic that if she got pregnant, you know, the world would fall apart for her.

And so her body had that message that she shouldn't get pregnant.

So I know that sounds crazy, so.

I unwound that makes sense to me.

I get that.

Yeah, you get it.

And even so, she was so panicked, I knew she was going to get pregnant.

But they went ahead and they did ivf.

They were.

Of course, they were pregnant almost immediately.

And then she had a little problem with the embryo.

It wasn't shaped properly.

So I did a healing on that too.

I didn't know what was.

You know, I never.

I don't always know what's going to happen when I do a healing.

Right.

But I worked on it and it reverted to a.

You know, the doctor said the pregnancy would be fine, but the embryo became normal again.

Fantastic.

I mean that's amazing.

That really is amazing.

And I've.

I know there's a lot of studies done on light work and cellular data, like as far as how the cells change with the different techniques used.

And I think it's amazing.

I think people need to find out more about you.

I really feel like children should be meditating in classrooms on the daily to focus their well being and center themselves.

And they've tried this in other countries and the kids flourish.

Can we get it together, America?

Get some of that going?

We'll never get that together.

But I agree with you so much.

I mean, whenever I teach, I taught a class on intuition.

I mean, did anyone ever teach you about intuition or the fact that you.

Had certain movies that I watched as a child?

Like, you know, not, not really, but in the 70s when I was really little, they had a lot of unsolved mysteries and psychic activity and you know, people's head hooked up like on Ghostbusters to, you know, depicting a psychic test, which I ended up doing, which is hilarious because loved that part of Ghostbusters.

And then I end up in the lab being studied like a lab rat.

So those are.

No, but not in the classroom.

It was actually the opposite.

We were taught more keep your hands to yourself.

Which is still a good rule.

Yeah, listen to the teacher, respect your elders, eat your lunch, eat all of it.

You know, for.

Eat your fruit and veggies, just like stuff like that.

But nothing having to do with energy ever.

Or even your intuition or your inner self.

Yeah, the most important thing is even.

But every, every adult we knew said, I have a gut feeling or my instinct is.

I mean it was already in our society that we knew that there were adults that believed in that or they'd say, oh, what's my sixth sense?

You know, I didn't come from such a lucky.

Well, my grandma knew when people were gonna die, so I grew up, up with her.

Also I had some law enforcement and military in the family and they very much believe on hunches and gut feelings and you know, going with that instinct that they get.

So I guess in that sense I was able to relate to.

Yeah, you were lucky.

But I think, you know, it's a major.

I mean, I agree with you.

Something should be taught in school.

Yes, absolutely.

So where can people find more information on you and do you have any workshops coming up?

Well, I do.

I have.

Well, they can find me at DianeGoldner.com or Diane@DianeGoldner.com to make it easy.

Yeah, and I don't have it listed yet, but I'm going to be teaching another Zoom workshop.

I think the next one is going to be on healing yourself and your relationships.

And because that's one that along with many other things is like almost everybody.

Has something your timing on that's fortuitous because the eight year was starting the process of ending relationships that no longer serve you, which is why you're seeing all the divorces and breakups and getting friends out of your life that you've outgrown and that no longer serve you.

You just, you're on different energy levels.

The nine year is going to bring that furiously.

It's going to be fascinating.

So I'm sure your class will be full of people.

I'll probably have that up in about two weeks.

So is it going to be about healing relationships that.

That are worth saving?

Do you have a distinction of if it be.

Well, I think sometimes you don't know until you do the inner work.

Right.

So do you talk to them about that if it stands out that it's not a positive relationship in their life, that maybe you need to heal through that?

I definitely do.

You have to be very gentle with people because if they're not ready to do that and I've been there.

Yeah, yeah.

You know, you.

Then you get afraid.

Right.

And, well, a lot of people.

I wrote a long time ago, life doesn't stand for live in fear every day.

And that's because I feel most people in the world live in fear every day about, especially in the U.S.

what if I don't have this?

What if I don't have that?

And what if nobody loves me?

What if nobody likes me?

What if I don't get follows?

What if nobody likes my social media content?

It's like, stop worrying about everything, do what you do and roll the dice on life.

Just.

Well, this is the thing.

It's not just about healing your relationships.

It's really your relationships are a way for you to heal yourself.

Right, right.

And.

And when I say relationships, it could even be your relationship to something at work.

Not just people at work, but your whole.

Right, you know, I mean, relationship is almost anything you're relating to.

Right, right.

Although it is also very much your romantic relationships.

I deal with a lot of clients where I have to point out to them that they've been stuck in a Cycle of picking the same guy over and over again and expecting a different result, which we all know what that is, and trying to break them of that.

I'm like, if you're remotely attracted to someone, walk away.

I'm like, maybe, you know, it's very hard to change.

But, I mean, that was one of, you know, when I started doing my healing work, I had to look at that.

I was like, what if I.

What do all these relationships have in common?

There's a pattern.

We see patterns.

I grew up with a mom that was married four or five times by the time I was 18.

So I saw the gamut of divorce and relationship dynamics.

I was either gonna be a prosecutor or a divorce attorney anyways.

I interned in homicide.

We know how that worked out.

So I actually paid attention to those relationships and the energy of the men that my mom chose.

And I chose somebody completely the opposite of anyone she was ever with.

And so I did learn something from her in that respect.

But you are like the.

I want to say, almost the exception to be able to do that.

A lot of people don't have the consciousness to, you know, to see it clearly.

I was a strange kid, for sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It worked out.

It worked out so well.

Thank you for talking to me today and talking to my listeners and enlightening them.

I know they're going to want to know all about you and sign up for your classes, as I believe some of the DU students signed up for your course.

And I.

I can't wait to hear about that either.

I'm very proud of them.

Thank you to my listeners for tuning in.

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