This week, we're slicing through the surface of the horror world to spotlight something truly revolutionary. Corey and Kendall sit down with filmmaker, podcaster, and horror disruptor Ariel Baska, whose life was forever changed the first time they locked eyes with a certain glove-wearing nightmare fiend. (Yes, we’re talking about Freddy Krueger—because of corpse we are.)

But Ariel didn’t just fall in love with horror—they reshaped it. As the founder of Access:Horror, they’ve created a hybrid film festival and industry summit that unapologetically centers disability and queerness in genre storytelling. And it’s not just inclusive—it’s “so inclusive, it’s scary.

This year’s fest is stacked:

🔪 Ten killer short films.

🧠 A panel on Blackness and Disability in Horror.

🎤 A live performance by Maya Azucena.

🎬 All shorts streaming for the first time ever on Shudder.

💀 And a silent auction that includes a literal piece of the Blair Witch house.

We talk about what it means to be the monster and the final girl, how horror became a lifeline for Ariel, and why this year’s Access:Horror is arriving at a moment when disabled communities need bold, creative resistance more than ever.

If you’ve ever felt like horror saved your life, this episode is your love letter. And if you haven’t yet? It might be the one that opens the door.

🎙 About Our Guest: Ariel Baska

Ariel Baska is a queer disabled filmmaker, podcaster, and the founder of Access:Horror. They are also the host of Ride the Omnibus, a show exploring media through a social justice lens. Ariel’s upcoming documentary, Monstrous Me, produced by Lilly Wachowski, dives into their personal relationship with horror, disability, and the monster that started it all: Freddy Krueger.

Ariel’s building spaces in horror that don’t just welcome people with disabilities—they center them. Their work isn’t performative. It’s personal, political, and pointed like the end of a clawed glove.

🕯 Access:Horror 2025 — Details

📍 In-person: August 1, DCTV Firehouse Cinema, NYC

🌍 Streaming worldwide

📺 Streaming partner: Shudder

🧠 In partnership with: George A. Romero Foundation

🎤 Hosts: Ariel Baska, Sharai Bohannon, Xero Gravity

🏆 Awards host: Phil Nobile Jr., Editor-in-Chief of Fangoria

🎟 Tickets & info: accesshorrorfest.com

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Corey and Kendall: Say some of those things on the

Ariel: Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm, I'm just saying for general background,

Corey and Kendall: Yeah, sure. Yeah, no, for sure. Um, do you have any other questions before we get rolling?

Ariel: well, uh, one quick question. Um, how, how long is your lead time before you typically are able to post episodes? I.

Corey and Kendall: It, I mean, it varies. If we, if there's something like happening like your film festival, you know, we definitely wanna make sure we get, uh, it out there and, and plenty of time for people to, um, find out about it. I think you, I, I saw on your website, I think there's like a countdown for tickets going on sale or next month.

So yeah, I think we can definitely get it out there by the time the tickets are available.

Ariel: Okay, great. That would be amazing.

Corey and Kendall: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, every bit to help, you know, like promote. Yeah.

Ariel: Yeah.

Corey and Kendall: I mean, J 'cause we are working with, you know, a lot of, uh, writers and artists and things like that, that have, you know, books coming out, et cetera. So we try to be as accommodating as possible to make sure that we're, you know, helping, you know, get the good word out there.

Ariel: Cool. Cool. Well, thank you.

Corey and Kendall: Yeah. You're welcome. And this, uh, I don't think they'll be loud, but our dogs are in the room with us and that usually is a better scenario than if they're not, because they'd be very upset if they weren't. So yes, indeed, they'd be hearing us wondering why they aren't part of the show. Exactly.

Ariel: I understand. I have cats that are the same way. They will start clawing at the door

Corey and Kendall: Yep.

Ariel: whining.

Ariel: Thank you so much for having me. So lovely to meet you, Corey and Kendall.

Corey and Kendall: Same. Same. Yeah. Absolutely. So this is gearing up to be, uh, an exciting summer for you, right?

Ariel: It is, it, it's, it's kind of a ridiculously exciting summer, if I may say so myself. It's, it's gotten a little out of control. Um, I, I have a major film festival happening August 1st in New York City, and also online and on shutter. All simultaneously. So it's, it's kind of a shocking thing. So,

Corey and Kendall: That's so cool. That's awesome. I mean, yeah, we're, uh. We're big shutter fans, uh, and, uh, love, you know, film festivals and, and horror cons and all that stuff. So, and actually, you know, New York City is just like a four hour train right away from us. Mm-hmm. We're here in, in, uh, Seacoast of New Hampshire. So, you know,

don't be surprised if we show up.

Ariel: Sweet.

Corey and Kendall: Yeah.

Ariel: That would be wonderful. I'd love to have

Corey and Kendall: Thank you. So, um, at this stage, like, what, what uh, could fans be expecting at the film festival?

Uh, we have a live performance from Singer Maya Azua, and we have an award ceremony presided over by the editor in chief of Fangoria, Phil Nobel Jr. Himself. And, uh. Yeah, it should be a really fabulous time with q and as with filmmakers and, uh, you know, a lot of different ways to connect with disability and horror.

Our tagline is so inclusive, it's scary. So

Corey and Kendall: I like that. That's

Ariel: I think, I think that gives you a, a general sense of the vibe.

Corey and Kendall: Absolutely.

Ariel: Yeah. I mean, I, I think, I think in a lot of ways it's, it's made the imperative clearer for a lot of people who were afraid to speak up at one time. I think in a lot of ways, you know, you just can't afford not to anymore.

Corey and Kendall: Exactly right. Absolutely. For sure. Yeah. So let's go back, um, to your discovery of horror and, and how it became such an important part of your life.

I was a 3-year-old child who was disfigured. I, I had facial differences because I was born with a capillary hemangioma that covered half of my face and left me blind and deaf on the right side, and I. You know, obviously had disabilities, but I didn't recognize myself as having disabilities. And because I was blind in one eye, I couldn't actually see the right side of my face.

So I didn't know what people were talking about when they were calling me Monster and pizza face and things like that. But then at age three, a bad babysitter brought over a bag of weed, her boyfriend and a VHS of a nightmare on Elm Street. And I fell in love. fell in love with Freddy, and honestly, you know, it was, it was like a lightning rod moment for me.

I had a sudden sort of feeling of empowerment because all of the depictions my parents were giving me of disabled characters were inspiration porn characters who are martyrs, you know, dying to be the most polite or the most, you know. Pure and good of heart. And, and seeing Freddy slashing his way through that high school just made me so fucking happy.

All right. Sorry. I'm swearing. I'm swearing. I heard, I heard peaches swear on your podcast, so I'm gonna do it too. There you go. There you go. Wow. And that, that just even sounds like a setup for a horror movie, the Bad Babysitter with the boyfriend and the lead. And here's Freddy Krueger.

And so there's always this undercurrent of Yeah, but. That's not reality for me. Like I only ever feel validated when I see someone getting their throat slit. Is that terrible or what? You know? And, and that's not to say that horror heals everybody. Like obviously some people are deeply traumatized by horror and can't get images out of their head or whatever, but for.

The chosen few. I think horror has the capacity to do so much, promote so much resilience, and really, really echo the strength in ourselves anyway.

Corey and Kendall: No,

And it worked because I didn't have nightmares. I enjoyed it. You know, he, you know, and maybe we were just nerds, but he was talking about, you know, the cinematography and what the effects were like, and, you know, it was just, it was a true total experience for me because of. The way that my father approached it.

Uh, I, I very much had the opposite from my family. My family was like, ew.

Corey and Kendall: Right.

Ariel: What's wrong with you? you know. It was, it was like, uh, no, we cannot rent that movie. I don't know what, so for me, like I always had to gravitate toward packs of friends that would support me in my horror habit and

Corey and Kendall: And I think

because of my love for horror early when I did become a teenager and was hanging out with friends, I was the one that wanted to watch the glorious and

craziest and you know. I remember even my teenage friends being like, what's up with this guy? You know, like, why does he wanna see all this?

And it was just, you know, it was, it was my thing. So, yeah, for me, I think I, I, I would, I was kind of scared of some of the stuff, um, early on, and I think it was actually. A friend of mine, you know, collected fag, Gloria Magazine, and I think it was like seeing behind the scenes and seeing, you know, reading about how they create the gore and all that stuff.

Uh, I love your message and you know, even today, like there is still a lack of representation in mainstream horror for a lot of us, you know? I don't see, Kendall and I represented in horror movies as like a, a middle-aged gay couple who, you know, been together for 20 years. Uh, instead you get like the sassy, you know, best

friend or whatever. Mm-hmm. Which,

whatever there are, those people exist, but there are all sorts of, uh, people in, you know, the, uh, queer world that, you know, aren't being represented necessarily in mainstream order. So we would love to see, um, that change.

literally every demographic.

But you only ever see white men in wheelchairs and you. If you see anyone who's queer, they can't also have a disability,

Corey and Kendall: Mm-hmm.

Ariel: and you, you're only allowed to tick one box. How dare you? And I think it's wonderful that we're finally starting to have this renaissance of films that actually explore these themes in really interesting ways.

Deeper when you are representing lived experience.

Corey and Kendall: Exactly. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. You hit it right there. For sure, for sure. Now, as you've um, kind of gone on this journey, have you gotten pushback from people saying like, oh, there's no audience for, you know, uh, for this kind of thing, yada, yada. I.

Corey and Kendall: Yeah.

Ariel: um, mostly, mostly that's been the format of any pushback I've gotten.

We have a real problem with the pipeline of wheelchair users who need to be at the level of the Brad Pitts of this world so that we can get our stories made. But we also need to have filmmakers who. Even have access to the festival itself to even promote the thing and meet the funders and meet the people.

And so that's part of where I'm coming from, feeling like both as a filmmaker and a film festival director, I'm thinking about the systems and the pipelines that exist for disabled people telling these stories.

Ariel: are, we are,

Corey and Kendall: awesome. Because I just think that is gonna be so powerful.

It was, it was an incredible time because we were talking about accessibility of so many different kinds, not just. Venue accessibility, but also looking at things like content warnings, looking at things like financial [00:13:00] accessibility. Uh, one of the really great things that we're doing this year is that we have also, um, our, our programming is completely pay what you can.

Unless you wanna sign up for our VIP experience and then we'll, we'll do fancy, fancy shit if you, if you sign up for the VIP experience. But otherwise it's pay what you can both to attend in person and to attend online and then. In terms of trying to create some level of sustainability, we're also having a silent auction.

We're partnering with the George A. Romero Foundation to have a silent auction that benefits the filmmakers in our lineup because we know to make films with the disability, I mean to make films period, is a losing proposition in this day and age.

Corey and Kendall: Right. Yeah.

Ariel: to have a disability and do that simultaneously is.

Corey and Kendall: That's fantastic. Yeah. I love that the Romero Foundation is, it's part of this. Um, how did you connect with them?

Ariel: Uh, honestly, I just kind of cold reached out on, uh, their website if I'm very honest. I, I just went to their contact US page and Sues Romero, George's widow, immediately reached out and said, I love your website, and oh my gosh, I love everything you're doing. And then she sort of became my patron goddess

Corey and Kendall: wow.

Ariel: she's Sues is.

But what's really impressive to me is how, you know, George's vision was always about inclusivity and was always about, uh, making space for everyone. And I love that the Romero Foundation is still engaging in this work in such a deeply meaningful way.

Corey and Kendall: Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I was fortunate enough, um, to meet George way back when and spend a little bit of time with him and just the. The, the entire Romero Zombie family is just, is just packed with wonderful people. I mean, they're great. So that's, I mean, and, and one of my, our treasures is, uh, I've got a, a polish, um, poster from the, the remake and got, you know, George's signature on there and Savini and, and a bunch of Tony Todd, you know, rest in peace. Yeah, it's, yeah. So it's, that's, you know. And the photo of me with, with George is, is definitely like one of my favorites. Mm-hmm.

Ariel: Amazing. I, I, I can't imagine. I mean, that's, that's gotta be incredible.

Ariel: Yeah,

Corey and Kendall: for real.

Ariel: it's wonderful, you know, when you get to meet someone who's had such an impact on your life and it really transforms the way that you think about, um. Your own identity and your own kind of way of seeing yourself in the world?

Corey and Kendall: Yeah. What would it mean to you, um, to meet Robert England?

Ariel: I will be very honest with you. I have no interest in meeting Robert

Corey and Kendall: Oh, okay.

Ariel: I'm, I'm kind of a weirdo in this respect because I, I, I've had multiple people ask me this question and for me, like. My fascination is with Freddie, the fictional character. Not really so much the actor, like, I mean, yes, he created my character, but so did Wes Craven by writing him, and so did all of the other people who brought him to life with makeup and special effects and.

And to me, like Freddy has a meaning beyond, beyond just the voice or the. The character embodiment that Robert England did. It, it goes deeper than that. It, I, I, I'm gonna sound woo woo here, but like, it feels spiritual and it feels like it sort of transcends, like they were actually going for, I don't wanna ruin it.

Corey and Kendall: Gotcha.

Ariel: Okay. And, and, and here's, here's the thing. Okay. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna say a thing. Uh, I've never said this publicly, even though I have my own podcast and I've recorded a lot of episodes. I've never badmouthed my heroes before. But there is a very, one of my favorite people of all time, uh, is Steven Sondheim.

He was like, uh, whatever.

Corey and Kendall: Yeah, yeah,

Ariel: I get it. But basically since then I've been like, don't meet your heroes unless you have a really good reason to do so.

Corey and Kendall: yeah. I, I tend toward that, uh, that feeling as well. Uh, not because of any experiences I've had, it's that I. That thought that they could happen and that I would just end up being an asshole toward the person. Be like, fuck you. I made you what you are. You know?

Ariel: Yep.

Corey and Kendall: yep. And I could see that about myself. So I'm like, yeah, maybe I shouldn't. But also Kendall's whole thing is like, why should I pay them for their autograph? They should be paying me for mine. That's right. I went and spent a fortune to watch all these movies and buy soundtracks and, you know what I mean? Like

that. I, I

You know, I think it gives, it recognizes fans. You know? Yeah. I mean, I will say, I know I've had a couple of, really only a couple of minor not great experiences, you know, meeting folks where I'm kinda like bummed for a little bit. Uh, but I'd befriended, you know, several of the, the volunteers at horror festivals and, and they're quick to remind me like, Hey, you really don't know if somebody's just having a bad day or whatever.

Yeah,

Ariel: It's very true. It's

Corey and Kendall: Right. It's like there was the one, the last one I could think of. I'm the only one standing here right now. You know, there's not like, there's a line of 50 people and, but then I was later told that this person had, uh, was like freezing and like asked to be moved away from the open door and they didn't have another space for 'em. So it's like, okay, I get it. If you, yeah, if you're miserable right now, like you probably don't really care that I wanna, you know, talk to you about such and such. Yep.

with

Um, it's a, it's an absolutely brilliant film, uh, because it specifically looks at, uh, kind of the experience I had of being disfigured and then transforming into something else, and. People encountering you on the street and thinking they know you in a certain kind of

way,

because you never really have a complete sense of self when everybody around you is building up a persona for you

simultaneously.

Corey and Kendall: Yep. Because I, you're, you make a very good point because I see I. Some celebrities and you know, you want to believe that you're seeing the real person. But then all I'm thinking is, you know, what, if I were constantly on display that way, I might not even know that I'm, you know, mon self-monitoring myself

constantly.

And you know how stifling that must be

Ariel: Yeah.

You know, having a, having a narrower boundary was better for me in general, and being a little more authentic in terms of how I was talking to my students. Um, that, that was sort of a realization that came after my father's death. I, I realized that I couldn't hide my grief. Like I literally could not stop crying in front of my kids.

And to me at the time, it was like, oh my God, what's gonna happen? They're seeing me cry. This was the end of the world. And then I realized, wait, no e everybody's human. We have to be allowed to show the fullness of our humanity and. Anyway, so this, this goes back to celebrity by saying that, you know, everybody is human.

And, you know, it's a, it's a deeply vulnerable thing to dive into the topics I'm doing. And it's literally me looking into the camera, talking in the short film, which is the hardest thing I have done in my life. I've been through two brain surgeries. I've, you know, had all kinds of things happen to me in my life, but this is the hardest thing I've ever done.[00:24:00]

And, uh, I gotta say like, really, truly. It's a deeply vulnerable, deeply painful thing to have to look into a camera and tell the story of like how you came to know yourself in a very painful way. And I'm, I'm kind of terrified of what's going to happen when suddenly everyone in the room knows my secrets and they're asking me questions in a q and a.

Me too. Me too. And, and honestly, like Nanette was such a game changer for so many people because it was the first time that people started thinking about, you know. Is it the artist? You know, do we consider the artist or the human first? And honestly, like I, I have not come down on one side on that question, but I, I love that Hannah started exploring that in a very aggressive way.

How the carpet is so white at a Netflix Emmy party and talking to John Stamos and Jennifer Aniston and obsessing over like the number of tiles in the carpet and like that just, that just makes me so happy

to know that's out there.

Freddy.

I, uh, I watched the movie over and over and over again. Uh, obviously I watched, well, maybe not obviously, but I watched all of the franchise, uh.

By myself, uh, but it was a secret that I had to keep from my parents because my parents were very judgy about my love of horror and my love of sci-fi. In high school, I had a group of friends. We would have sleepovers and do movie marathons. Uh, most memorably, uh, one movie marathon. We selected basically everything we could that had horror in the title or was in the cult section.

But it was amazing and incredible and like obviously like my love of horror, my love of cult, my love of queer things, my love of of, of all of it came out to play at that one movie marathon. But we would do these and just watch so much content so many times over and, you know. That was my sort of secret outlet in so many ways.

Like I've been writing about Freddy for years, and now I'm suddenly realizing, right. I didn't share Freddy with anyone until my thirties.

Corey and Kendall: Wow. That's cool though. It's just, it, you know, it was your, I. Personal thing. I think that's, that's great.

And we have a little confession. We, we have a life-size f Freddy in our basement. We do.

Yeah. Yes we do. We, we haven't really, we need to take more images of him. Yeah. It's funny, we've had him for, gosh, for years now.

Yeah. And just the other day, you know, I know he is there. He's standing sort of in a corner. And the other day I turned on the light and I was like, just, it's, it's, it's hilarious that he still gives me that jump scare.

Um,

different movies all day. And the last

one was, uh, nightmare on El Street three and didn't get to see the ending 'cause we were chased out by the Usher 'cause we were the only two people in the, you know, in the theater.

So they knew there were no tickets sold for. Um, but yeah, I dunno, there, there there's something about Freddie two that really, that really gets me and, uh. I know that they're, um, I think they're remastering or just remastered part two,

which is fascinating in itself, you know? Mm-hmm. With the, the stuff to it.

And I love that that conversation is still happening. Um, mark would be a dream guest for us. And again, I know you, you shouldn't always meet your, your heroes. Right. But he's such a sweetheart, and I love that. I've got a great picture of him holding the Freddie Claw to my neck, you know, and it's

like,

Ariel: I, I've also met Mark and I agree. He has his total sweetheart and gave me a huge hug

Corey and Kendall: that's awesome.

Corey and Kendall: Yeah.

Ariel: and we happened to sit next to each other anyway.

Corey and Kendall: That's awesome. Well, it's, I'm very excited, you know, for you, this is a, the film festival is, I, I know it's going to be amazing and. You definitely have to keep us in the loop as to your, your short and the feature length, you know, um, very, very cool and, and very, um, brave of you to, to open yourself up like that.

And it's, we know it can't be easy. Well, and you've already said that you're terrified and I, I just wanna assure you, I can already tell you're gonna do, you're gonna be great. You'll be great. Yes. You'll be great. For sure.

Ariel: Well, thank you. You're very kind to say, so thank you.

Corey and Kendall: of course. Um, so the final question that we ask every guest on horror heels, and I'm very, very curious to hear what your answer is going to be. Um, who is your favorite final person in a horror movie? And we like to, we don't, I mean, I love the whole, like the final girl, like, um, the power stuff. But we we don't say final girl. We just say

person here. 'cause we wanna be as inclusive as possible. yep, yep. That is a question no one has ever asked me before.

It's a tough one too.

Ariel: It's a tough one. I, I will be honest, I think, I think.

Corey and Kendall: Oh,

Ariel: think, I think she is genuinely, like, I just, just going off the top of my head 'cause he didn't gimme along

to think about this. Come on. Anyway. Uh, but I, I feel like, you know, when I think about favorite final people, you know.

Her character has something, uh, kind of transformative that she's been through. She's, um, I don't know. I, I, ugh, ugh, this is so hard. But like, I feel, I feel like she is a character, is someone that I would wanna hang out with. I mean, on a very basic level, like I think she is, she's deeply powerful and also hilariously funny and keenly intelligent, and I, I would just wanna know her.

Corey and Kendall: Cool. I I love asking the question because then we, you know, I would say nine times outta 10, it makes us wanna watch that movie, you know,

Ariel: I.

Ariel: I, I do know that that's probably part of why she comes into my mind, but anyway,

Corey and Kendall: That's so great. Well, yeah, that's, no, I, I like that. And that's the first time we've had that, so That's right. But I will say that, uh, Nancy Thompson is my, my favorite.

Ariel: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I actually say in my short film that like I. I hated Nancy. Like I genuinely hated Nancy, like with a passion. I resented her for being too perfect and too, like all the things. No, it's much better to be a monster. Much better. To be a monster.

Corey and Kendall: Well, I do, I love her documentary too. Uh,

Ariel: Oh, I do too. I do too. No shade to Heather Langen camp at

Corey and Kendall: Right, right, right, right. Yes.

Ariel: not at all.

Corey and Kendall: Thought the

same thing. Yep. Okay, so I sort of lied about last question just because this popped into my head and I gotta, I. Um, just based on what you said earlier, what do you think your gut reaction would be if you saw Robert England walk into the film festival? Oh gosh.

Ariel: My gut reaction. Okay. So to be very honest, my gut reaction would be that my stomach would drop and I would feel like I had to leave immediately.

Corey and Kendall: Yeah.

Ariel: No, really, really truly, like I think that that is. If I'm being completely honest, that is what my body would probably do.

Corey and Kendall: Yeah. Uh, he's one of the first, um, horror icons that I met. I can't remember if I met him first or Elvira. Um, but got to spend a decent amount of time with Robert England because this is like precon stuff and, uh. There's, like, St. Louis is where I'm from, and, and used to be kind of known as like one of the top, um, haunted traction, you know, places in the country.

Ariel: Wow.

Corey and Kendall: so, uh, and, and, it was just, uh, I, you know, got to interview him prior to, and then a buddy of mine, uh, went to, you know, there and, and met him and there just, there wasn't a ton of people, like, as it got later in the evening hanging around.

So we just hung out with Robert and his friend and just, you know, shot the shit and, uh, and just had a great old time. So, you know, if. Him times and just. I, you know, I've got, uh, uh, an autograph for our nephew because our, uh, so Kendall's sister, who we, um, found through a DNA test is also big into horror. Um, she named her son Gage. I'm sure you could guess why.

Yeah.

And, uh, but, you know, gage, when we met him was just terrified of anything around Halloween.

And she, you know, she puts on a h and everything. He couldn't be part of it. And so, um. The very first horror movie he ever saw was with me, and it was the original nightmare.

Ariel: Wonderful.

Corey and Kendall: he was fine through it. He only had to like, cover his eyes for the nudity. Oh, okay. Um, and so then I had like, I, I gotta get, you know, him a, a, you know, a little treasure.

Ariel: You are. You really are.

Corey and Kendall: like when we find somebody who is like into horror, like we're like, okay, you know, it's on

Ariel: Yep. It's on like Donkey Kong. You gotta go.

Corey and Kendall: Exactly.

Ariel: and even when it's someone who's not into horror, who just, you know, opens the door a tiny bit for you. Like for example, my mother-in-law, I have the greatest mother-in-law in the world because she hates, not because she hates horror, but because she hates horror.

But she said, Ariel, we need to sit down and watch a nightmare on Elm Street so I can understand your work better.

Corey and Kendall: Wow, that's so amazing. Yeah.

Ariel: That is literally the sign of a great human being.

Corey and Kendall: I agree. I agree. That's awesome. That's, you know. Yay. There's hope.

Ariel: There is hope. There is hope for this world, and it comes through horror

Corey and Kendall: Yes, absolutely.

Oh, wow. I, I've got chills right now. It's, uh, well it's been a joy meeting you that this is, you know, we're so excited, um, for you. So, um, you know, we're we sending all the positivity out into the universe for the film festival?

Ariel: Thank you and I'll, I'll hope you guys can make it. I'll save you a seat if you wanna come.

Corey and Kendall: cool. It's, it's my birthday month, so, uh, it's, it's a big one this year, so It sure is. Yeah.

Ariel: Awesome.

All right.

Corey and Kendall: Thanks for spending some of your Sunday with us. Yeah,

Ariel: Absolutely. I had a bless. Thank

Corey and Kendall: wonderful.