🎙️ Courageous Destiny Podcast — Featuring Alicia Rayner

In this powerful episode, we sit down with Alicia Rayner, a courageous mother, former middle school educator, and fierce warrior currently navigating a long-term journey with stage four leiomyosarcoma. Alicia’s story is not just about survival — it’s a living embodiment of radical presence, faith, and the unstoppable power of the human spirit.

Through her voice, we explore what it truly means to live courageously in the face of the unknown — to keep loving, laughing, and making memories even when life delivers the unthinkable. Alicia generously opens her heart to share how community, faith, and intentional gratitude have carried her through the darkest of days.

💛 Key Courageous Takeaways

• Illness doesn’t define your spirit — it can awaken it. Alicia’s cancer journey has reshaped her entire perspective on purpose, joy, and what truly matters.
• Community is lifeline, not luxury. No one should ever walk their hardest chapters alone.
• Faith and prayer change everything. Her spiritual grounding has been her anchor through every storm.
• The present moment is holy. Small joys, deep conversations, soft moments — that is where life is actually happening.
• Your story is someone else’s survival guide. Sharing is not weakness — it is leadership.
• Celebrate while you can. Love louder, laugh longer, and create memories now — not someday.

This episode is an invitation — to slow down, open your heart, and live fully now. Alicia reminds us that courage isn’t the absence of fear — it’s love, faith, and intention in motion.

Hello, everyone, and welcome to the courageous destiny build a business and life you love podcast.

I am your hostess, Kristen Crockett, and I am so honored to have Alicia Rayner on my podcast today.

Alicia is a former middle school math and science teacher, mom of a 14 and 16 year old, also a loving wife, and she has been battling cancer for over 12 years now.

And I really, I really wanted to have her on my show because she is a bright light in the world.

She is a beautiful human and I just really want to help her.

I just really wanted to have her on here to help inspire and share her story with us.

Alicia, welcome to my show.

Hi, Kristen.

I'm so excited to join your show.

I feel honored that you chose me.

Yes.

Immediately when we connected a few years ago, I definitely picked up the energy from you and same.

Your light exudes and yeah, I love how you really connect people and build other people up.

So I'm excited to be here.

Well, I'm excited to have you.

Can, can we start by if.

Can you share some of your story if.

Can we start at the beginning?

Sure.

So I was.

No, I'm kidding.

I know that's not that far in the beginning.

So I was bored.

Oh.

And most people have never heard of that type of cancer.

In fact, I had not heard of that type of cancer.

Obviously, with the 12 years under my belt, I've learned a lot more.

Sarcomas usually represent 1% of adult cancers and there are 100 subtypes.

So within those subtypes, 20% of them do fall under the very rare category of cancers.

So I'm glad I can share some awareness with that.

My particular cancer, it shows up in smooth muscle.

So wherever smooth muscle is, it can grow.

It did initially start uterine, but it was stage four.

So in my initial surgery, it actually had filled up my abdomen and was already in my lungs.

And so.

Goodness.

Yeah.

So really from the get go and kind of I go back to that story because I know a lot of people when they first are diagnosed with cancer, one of the hardest things is not only just hearing it for the first time from their doctor and having to digest it.

And then the second part is always having to what's it going to be like to tell other people?

I don't want to have that label necessarily right away.

And you're afraid of what other people, how they're going to handle it.

So you kind of want to brace them and how they receive the news.

So I'll be honest.

I went into it initially knowing that I was going to get a hysterectomy.

And with that, I.

There was a Bible verse that I used, and it is First Thessalonians, chapter 5, verses 6 through 18.

And it's Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, and give thanks in all circumstances, for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.

So with that, I knew there was a potential that it may be cancer, but I've just always focused on trying not to think of the worst.

So I went in, and I was just thankful that my husband and I, we had two healthy boys.

So as much as I don't want to downplay a hysterectomy by any means, because that is a very big surgery and it is hard on people.

But I was just focusing on, okay, you know, I have the two healthy boys.

Technically, I don't need it anymore is kind of my frame of reference.

So it wasn't until I literally was getting wheeled into surgery because they had done imaging the day before, and it started initially as smaller, and then, like I said, it filled my abdomen and went into my lungs.

So at that point, they knew.

So when they came in, they told us right away kind of that they knew for sure it was cancer.

It was stage four cancer.

And then I always say I kind of had the easy part at that point because they just put me under.

And I just still, it breaks my heart because my husband was there, and he.

He had to receive that news and then tell my family and friends and so forth.

So I never had to necessarily deliver the news because when I woke up from surgery, I was obviously in ICU for a while.

And I guess that was also a place where you wouldn't think, oh, yeah, I'm thankful I'm in the icu.

But it didn't let my mind worry about anything else but the moment that I was in.

So I was literally just focusing minute by minute, kind of with the pain and not worrying about the big picture.

At that point.

I also.

This was still so touching.

So being a teacher, I decorated my classroom that year with minions.

And so some friends and then that I taught with had posted as their profile picture a little picture that I had outside of my classroom, which was a heart with minions in it, and it became their profile picture on Facebook.

So when I later, you know, was with it Enough.

And I, like, logged on to Facebook.

It was just like an army of family and friends just rallying around me.

So I felt the love and the support right away.

And I guess that's the biggest thing, too, is those that are diagnosed with cancer, try not to shelter yourself.

I know it's hard to ask for help, and I was blessed that people stepped up right away, but it's a journey, and there's no way I could have done this alone.

My parents, I mean, they came up right away and pretty much lived with us.

And.

Yeah, I have some more I can go on, but we'll see.

Oh, I can't hear you.

I was going to ask.

I have a mute button audience and I was using it, but I wanted to.

One of the things that I'm hearing is I took it one step at a time.

I lived in the present moment.

When you got the diagnosis, you didn't have to deliver the news, but you didn't spend a lot of time in worry or what does this mean?

Or go into that kind of mode, because it was one thing in front of the other, like, put one foot in front of the other.

And I like to point that out because that.

Because that really is a success.

You know, one of the ways to create our success in life is to stay in the present moment.

And I have to say, Alicia, I know, you know, I've been following your journey for a while, and from what I see, it's always upbeat, Right?

It's the truth.

I mean, it's not always like, yay, you know, I have to deal with this.

But it's never.

It's never out of powerlessness or, Or.

Or victimhood.

You know, it really is.

I really have loved how.

And you touched on it a little bit, but how you have.

It feels like anyway, that you've put yourself in God's arms, that you put yourself into your faith.

You know, I'm not here to.

To create, you know, what anybody believes or to touch upon what anybody believes, but I love the fact that you had a higher power, you had God, and that you do have this faith.

And I love the fact that you could lean into it.

And I think that's such an important thing when you're growing into.

Into you're growing through something.

Excuse me.

That not only can you lean into your friends and family, as you had said, and create community and support around you, but you can lean into your faith.

And I love that you've done that and so powerfully.

Yeah, it definitely.

That kind of brings me to the point.

So when I was first diagnosed, my one friend, she said she was struggling with just having her friend, you know, with cancer and state being stage four.

So she went and talked to her pastor.

And that's kind of what her pastor said, is not to focus so much on the cancer, but instead look to see how God has prepared me for this journey.

So this story has been written long before I ever was diagnosed.

Once again, like, I have to thank my parents.

They taught me early in life how to put my faith into action.

I, I joke with my friends because that it was in middle school really when I kind of learned the power of prayer.

And it all stemmed around our, what was it, our confirmation retreat.

And we also had a softball tournament.

And if you know me, I, I was always just good enough to make the team, but that was okay with me because I just wanted to be with my friends.

And I really had no athletic ability whatsoever.

So I knew my parents were definitely making me go to the confirmation retreat.

But still, as an eighth grader, you just want to be with your friends and do what your friends do.

And they were going to go to the softball tournament.

And so that's when my parents are like, perfect, pray about it.

And of course when you sometimes hear that, and especially when you're new in finding your faith, you're just like, okay, that's kind of, maybe not necessarily a flippant response, but if you haven't really experienced the power of prayer, you may not realize how important that is.

So I remember I prayed and I prayed that night as an eighth grader and I was like, I want my friends to join me.

I know I need to go to the confirmation retreat.

I want them to join me.

And there was not rain in the forecast.

And it was rained and poured to the point that the softball tournament was canceled.

And my friends joined me.

So speaking of, God prepared me for this journey.

I knew, starting at eighth grade, you know, the power of prayer.

And may that have been a fluke or God I do rely now a lot.

I, back then maybe I could have thought it was a fluke.

But since my journey through life, but especially the past 12 years, my sister calls it, it's not a coincidence, but a God incidence.

And so she prepared me with that also my sister and my brother in law, they both are physicians in Houston and I didn't know about MD Anderson.

In fact, she's like, you're coming to MD Anderson?

I'm like, well, why don't you just call him Dr. Anderson, M.D.

comes after the name.

So I didn't realize that was the name of world renowned cancer center.

I do have to thank my sister because she has been crucial in helping guide me and making sure that I get great care.

I definitely recommend that to anybody that's been diagnosed with any type of cancer, not just a rare cancer, is to get a second opinion because that's really important.

See?

Well, and one of the things that I'd like to point out is we had actually talked about it the very first time we met.

I. I'll never forget that meeting you.

And we had talked about God Wings.

Yes.

Can you share with my audience, Our audience, I should say, about God Wings.

Yeah.

So they have been instrumental in this journey.

In fact, that's what I want to rely a lot of.

When things are getting tough, I do, I send a prayer, like God, please show me that you're here, that you're present, that you're going to guide me through this.

May it be good, may it be bad, but just keep me in the present moment and relying on you.

And like I said, my friends use minions right away on Facebook.

And lo and behold, that year another minion movie came out.

So it was just funny.

And the song Happy came out.

Right.

And so I swear, like songs come on the radio at just the right time for me.

It may be the song Happy or some other one that I hear.

Oh, nice.

Butterflies and sunflowers.

I joke because I'm a procrastinator.

I'm definitely talk about how God prepared me for this journey.

I am type B through and through.

My family is all type A. I have relinquished control, like since the day I was born.

So luckily that that helps me too.

But here with a kindred spirit, right?

Yeah, Just go with the flow.

So I joke because I'm a procrastinator and I literally have missed my own funeral at least three times on this journey because there were times that were very grim and things weren't looking good.

One of those.

And speaking of sunflowers, that obviously we were all shut down in our houses at that time.

And we live near a farm, a strawberry farm.

And that year, in fact, I just talked to the farmer for the first time just a couple weeks ago, ironically.

And that first year he's like, well, you know, people really couldn't do anything and if they could, it had to be outdoors and separated.

So.

So they planted sunflowers.

And those sunflowers were the most gorgeous sunflowers I had ever seen.

And it was just a huge field of them.

So every time I just drove past, they were there.

So they were a godwink to me.

And I won't go into all the medical parts with that, but if you want to look it up, it was basically going to be an overhaul of everything.

And I was supposed to get.

Put everything in different places type of thing.

Yeah.

And remove a lot.

Like I've had.

I do joke.

I've had a lot of ectomies and they removed a lot, like parts of my lungs, my stomach, hysterectomy.

They.

I still haven't had liposuction that I do joke.

I'm like, well, I guess this is my fighting weight.

But with this, they were going to.

I was supposed to have a colostomy in a urostomy bag when I woke up from the surgery.

And that was just only a small part of the surgery.

So we.

It was the day after Easter, so people were praying.

In fact, my hometown, they had a prayer vigil, 24 hour prayer vigil throughout that whole time.

And people would rotate in and out and would pray.

And one of the stories, I'm going to back up that with teaching.

Have you heard the butterfly story?

I don't know that I have heard the butterfly story.

I would love to hear the butterfly story.

Okay, so with the butterfly story, I'll.

It's just kind of a little quick synopsis, but basically this gentleman was watching a butterfly and it was coming out of its chrysalis and it was struggling for a while.

And so the gentleman just thought, oh, my goodness, this butterfly is not going to survive if I don't help it out.

So he got a scissors and he kind of made an extra cut so the butterfly could easily come out.

And what he did in his haste and not realizing it is that the butterfly actually needed to go through the struggle of getting out, because it's actually.

How now is this scientifically correct?

I'll be honest, I don't know.

But.

But to push the fluid into the wings so it is able to fly.

And so even though the gentleman thought he was helping by reducing the.

The butterfly struggle, it couldn't fly because it didn't go through it to push the fluid into the wings to fly.

It has to go through it in order to do it or to order to fly.

Exactly, exactly.

That was me making my own understanding out of it.

Okay.

And I don't know if I told that story, gave that story any justice.

So I apologize.

So basically, you have to go through this struggle to fly.

No, it makes a lot of sense to me.

So, yeah.

So that day.

So I'll be honest, to go through just the prep of prior to get a urostomy in a colostomy bag, they do a lot of measuring, and they make sure you.

Where you been.

Like, it's going to be placed in the right spot.

So they mark you almost like a tattoo, and they cover it so it doesn't move.

So then when they go into surgery, that they know where they're gonna put an opening that will be forever on your body.

So I got that done.

Actually, it was a good Friday that I got that done.

I had the butterfly story in my head already.

And that's kind of what I was gonna kind of post in my caring Bridge was like, okay, I'm gonna go through this struggle, but I have to go through it.

And I didn't end up posting that story because when I left the hospital that day, speaking of God winks.

Somebody drove by, and their license plates was Phil 13.

And that's for Philippians 4:13.

I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

And we were just beeping and honking at the person driving that car, and I was like, you're speaking to me.

Thank you.

Like God, you're like, yeah, sending his message.

So that was a huge wink.

Well, then that next.

So Saturday.

So I had those markings.

They were basically, like I said, tattoos.

And they were covered.

They weren't going to move until my surgery.

That was going to be that Monday.

Well.

Sunday was Easter Sunday, and we went to church, and it was in Houston because we were down there for the surgery in my sister's church.

And it had on the bulletin a beautiful picture of a butterfly.

And then we walked in the.

Wow.

And the butterfly was there.

And it was all about, yeah, the journey and how you're gonna grow and you're gonna change.

And it was just one of the most powerful sermons I had ever heard.

But what was crazy, that morning before I woke up, I kept feeling like in the middle of the night, like, something, like, on my stomach.

And I was like, this is weird.

Well, how God prepares me for the journey, too, is I can sleep through anything, even when I am stressed.

So that's a gift.

I know A lot of people can't do that.

So when I woke up though, that Sunday morning before church, I looked down and it's like, you've got to be kidding me.

Like, those band aids were off of my stomach.

They.

And I was like.

And the markings weren't there anymore.

And I. I was trying not to freak out because I'm like, I have this surgery on Monday.

What am I going to do?

Like, these need to be here.

It took hours to get them placed correctly.

Where did they go?

Like.

And so once again, I was like, focus on the present moment.

Let's get to church.

We'll figure this out.

So someone came in and remeasured me.

I had to make an emergency appointment for that.

And then, like I said, people prayed all through it for 24 hours.

And that surgery, like I said, it was supposed to be a full pelvic exoneration.

And when you sign off on surgeries, you know how they give you every possible option.

Well.

When I woke up, literally there's a video, but I.

It was a 12 hour surgery, so I was very sedated.

So I'm never going to share that with the world.

But my husband and my sister came in and they said all the cancer was removed.

And I had seven of the top surgeons in the country, they said they had never seen anything like it.

They even admitted that they cried.

They witnessed a miracle.

And I did not have a urostomy or colostomy.

And they were able to fully remove the cancer at that time.

And it truly was a miracle.

So I've experienced a lot of miracles, but that was one of them.

And the doctors.

Yeah, we have this cute like running thing with like minion socks and stuff like that.

So she even says to this day, those minion socks stay in her locker.

So when she's having a bad day at work, she can just look at those and be like, you know, I.

Like there was miracles.

I witnessed a miracle that day.

Wow.

And you really are a miracle.

What sort of prognosis did they give you when you first were diagnosed, if you were diagnosed at stage four.

Yeah.

So that's another good story too.

So.

Well, I don't know if.

Good.

Once again, this goes to Rejoice, by.

Yeah.

And your sons that were 2 and 4 at the time are now 14 and 16.

Yes.

And you look amazing.

And I see that I've seen the bright light in you since the time I met you.

So it's.

It's pretty amazing.

And you've been living with cancer.

Yes.

And like, like we talked about, yes, we focus on the living part.

And that was definitely something I had to wrap my head around.

So kind of going back to the diagnosis and it being so rare and it being stage four.

My first of all, go to doctors, one that are well trained and you don't want to go to someone that was the thing.

Like you want to go to someone that sees and works with your type of cancer, whatever it may be.

Day.

In and day out.

So it's almost routine for them because in this case I was diagnosed with stage four leiomyosarcoma and that is an 8% chance of survival for to five years.

But my doctors, going back to doctors, not only do you want them to be very knowledgeable in your type of cancer, but they're crucial in giving you hope.

Also.

They were never the ones that set, gave me a quote, expiration date, if you will.

Thank God.

Yeah, they, they always gave me hope.

They always said, you know, I, they said, I'm not God.

I'm not the one that makes these decisions.

And so it was through.

I mean, you can go and you can Google and you can find a lot of answers out there.

And so with that, that's where I found.

And if I did ask them directly, they would tell me to.

But once again, I told them from the beginning that's not what I want to focus on.

But going back to the 8%, so I had 8% chance of survival to five years.

And my mom said from the beginning, like, well, if you're in a room of 100 people, eight of those people have to survive past five years.

Why can't you be one of the eight?

That's right.

I mean, somebody has to.

Right?

So that's kind of what I've also during this whole fight is.

Yeah.

Why focus on the negative?

Focus on the positive.

And you know, there are miracles that happen and I've received many along the way and.

Yeah, well, and one of the things that I really love that inspired me about you is, is the whole idea of God wings and you know, whether, whether you believe in God or not.

Again, that's not my position to, to decide for other people.

And I certainly respect everyone, you know, but I also look at it like signs.

Like, I can't tell you, I. I always get to choose what I look at.

Does my choice let me grow?

Does my perspective let me grow?

Or does my perspective, perspective diminish me?

Does my perspective degrade what I want.

And if it, if it isn't helping me move forward, it's moving me away from what I want.

And so I've always looked for signs, you know, even growing through courageous destiny.

You know, guess what?

There's no other business out there called courageous destiny.

I, I created it straight from my heart with the help of, of many of my mentors along the way.

And it, it's my creation.

Right.

And so many people would say, well, you're never going to make it.

That's crazy.

I've had people tell me you're, you're, you're.

This isn't who you are.

This isn't blah, blah, blah right there.

And somebody can always say something, but if you know in your heart, it doesn't matter what anybody says, it doesn't matter what the Internet says, It doesn't matter what statistics say.

You know, I'm also the.

Well, there's a point zero, one chance that if you have fertility on day three, embryos create triplets.

Well, guess what?

Here I am.

I had triplets.

Right.

But whatever you focus on is what grows.

And you've always focus.

What I can see and what I've, I, I've observed about you is, I'm not saying you've never had a down day, but I'm sure, you know, throughout the journey, there is some down days, but you're focusing intentionally and consciously on the growth part of it.

Yes.

Yep.

You're.

Absolutely.

And the faith part of it and the trust part of it's like, I don't have control over this.

So doctors, families support me.

Doctors.

Yeah.

And we've been blessed.

Right.

And that's the thing, too.

Like, yeah, we, like you said, the blessings.

I mean, the community has rallied around, like, through just different benefits and fundraisers.

My, yeah.

40th birthday, that was kind of my goal.

Like, I'd like to say sometimes when you get a diagnosis, you're gonna, you know, forever change your life.

But it's like, you know what you relish more in the small, everyday things where you said you're gonna be more intentional, you're gonna be more present.

And, you know, I just wanted to make it to the kindergarten graduation or to Disney World with my kids.

And that was one of the things.

Once again, my sister coordinated the hugest surprise party.

And I guess that's the other thing is, I know you see it on, like, memes and everything, but, like, don't wait until somebody passes.

Like, that party brought so many different people from different walks of life, from family and church and a variety of different schools I taught at and neighbors, and we just celebrated.

And then they were so gracious enough to, to raise money to, so we could go to Disney World.

So those are the, the moments.

That's incredible.

Yeah.

And, and you know, who's to say?

I always liked, you know, I always, at least this is what I live by.

How do I know what's going to happen to me tomorrow or five minutes from now?

I don't know.

And really, truly to have the blessing of, of, well, like almost like an extra reminder to keep you present and conscious.

Right.

To.

Every day is a gift.

Every day is.

I just.

And I think that's what I feel from you is that celebration in, in the moments that I've spent with you.

So I really do appreciate that so much.

And I remember when I was training to, to be a coach years ago, and we had this exercise and the exercise was, if you had one week left to live, what would you do?

And it was amazing how I don't think anybody said, well, I would make sure that I went to work right, or I would.

Right.

I got to finish that project.

Right.

But family, you know, being present to family, being present to just experiencing the gift of life and faith and all of those things is, is really so critical.

And I really thank you so much for coming on here and sharing even just a piece of that with us.

I hope you do write a book.

And I can't wait to see the pictures from the marriage of your sons.

Yeah.

And beyond.

Yeah.

You are that.

Yeah.

So let me ask you this.

I, I ask this of every person who comes on to my podcast.

This will be interesting to hear your answer to this.

But what is the most courageous thing you've ever done?

So I'm glad I've been listening to your podcast.

So I kind of not going to lie, thought about this a little bit because so with this initially, my knee jerk reaction, of course is fighting stage four cancer and the numerous surgeries because.

Yeah.

And I've had over 200 rounds of chemo.

That would probably initially be my thought, but the more I kind of thought was digging into it, I think it was actually moving out on my own.

I had a great job.

I was teaching in my hometown.

I was near family and friends that were lifelong and it was comfortable.

And there wasn't really a reason for me to necessarily go, but it was one of those that I'M like, ah, I'm young.

I don't know if I'll ever get a chance to do this.

Let's spread my wings and fly.

And so I took a job, ironically, at a school with the same name as the school that I had just left.

And I moved up to the northern suburbs of Chicago all on my own.

And I really didn't know more than a couple people.

And I think that helped this whole journey because it did make me courageous in the fact that, you know, I knew I had to build the network that I wanted of friends around me.

I knew that I wanted to build my career and get my master's degree.

So it put me out there on my own.

I always knew I had a safety net at any point, so that was comforting.

But later, when I had to go down to Texas and fly on planes by myself, I had that confidence of, that doesn't bother me.

You know, I'll fly and do these things on my own because I. I was used to being able to stand on my own two feet.

And once again, I did it, knowing it was through prayer that.

That kind of guided me.

So I knew, like, a complete reinvention of.

And leap, a leap from one area of the country to another.

And I found my husband.

We got married on 777, and we're lucky in love still.

Oh, and I had the honor of meeting him.

And what a cute couple you both are.

So very awesome.

So, one other question.

What is the most courageous thing you have left on your bucket list?

Definitely write a book.

I've been joking about.

I've been serious, but at the same time joking about it.

But I taught middle school math and science for a reason.

I'm not really a writer per se, but in a book by Robin Roberts, she said, make your mess your message.

And I feel that that could really help others that are going through cancer, any battle, really.

And.

Yeah, well, I don't know if you listen to it, but the podcast right before yours, Ms. Christa Bray, her.

Mrs. Christa Bray, with her turning pages into paychecks, has a little.

Has a.

Has a really great program.

So I definitely need to check that.

I listened to that podcast, and really, in that half an hour, I learned more.

And it was such concrete knowledge that I was like, this is impressive.

It gave me that, like, hope that I'm like, okay, I can do this.

And so, yes, I'm definitely going to reach out to her.

I'll introduce you guys.

That's like one of my.

I love to do that.

I Love to do that.

Oh, my God.

You're great at making connections, and I love that I am.

Courageous connections to live your courageous destiny.

Yes.

So, Alicia, thank you so much for coming on my podcast.

I would like to say.

Say a special something about a very beautiful lady that I just spoke to right before we met, which I think was a God wink, and she was sharing with me about her very courageous story, and she had entrusted that with me.

And I am just so honored and blessed to be able to create this podcast and send this to her and say that we are all cheering for her and we are all sending love and prayers and support her way.

So thank you so much.

I'd like to.

I'd like to make a little dedication to her for that.

And is there any.

Is there any parting words you'd like to share with our audience today?

Let's see.

Okay.

I did have something written here, so.

And once again, I do.

I do honor all religion, so I do want to be very clear about that.

But this has been my journey, so I am sharing my thoughts.

So I'm big on.

I'm big on full self expression no matter what.

So go for it.

Okay.

So the love of God you hold in your heart.

Let it shine through your smile and laughter.

The power of prayer you hold in your hand by your head and use it.

And I just want to thank you for allowing me to share my story and hopefully, yeah, make my test my testimony or my mess my message.

So thank you for allowing me to do that, Kristen.

Oh, my honor.

And I can't wait to read the book because I know it's coming.

Yes.

I'm gonna actually co author it with my sister.

We have a book.

Yes.

Oh, my gosh, I just gave you chills.

That's a good.

That's a good sign.

All right, well, coming soon.

Well, I'll wait for that.

But you are just such a blessing.

Thank you for coming on my show and inspiring and sharing your authenticity and.

And your love with us today.

Thank you.

All right, until next time, everyone.

Live courageously.