On August 4, 2024, at a park in Bloomington,
Speaker:Indiana, there was an event happened. It was called the Trifling Picnic.
Speaker:It's about the 11th year this event was held by Phil and Elaine
Speaker:Emerson. But this was a special edition of the
Speaker:Trifling Picnic, which was meant to draw together some of Phil and
Speaker:Elaine's friends and colleagues and people they had interchange
Speaker:with. It was called the Belonging Exchange, the creation
Speaker:of a new organization designed to encourage
Speaker:and cultivate a sense of community, of mutuality, of joy,
Speaker:to start to provide resources and education in times of
Speaker:celebration for congregations and local communities and civic
Speaker:organizations. An expression of this was events, festivals
Speaker:such as the Trifling. Phil and Elaine created this
Speaker:event as a part of their family foundation to give
Speaker:back to people they know in their lives. I happen to be one of
Speaker:those people. My name is Reverend Doctor Brad Miller. Phil
Speaker:asked me to do some podcast interviews as a part of the Trifling
Speaker:picnic, the launch of the Belonging exchange. And that's what you have
Speaker:before you right now. It's a number of interviews and
Speaker:conversations that took place at the picnic, interspersed with some music
Speaker:from the event, just to give you a flavor of the conversations
Speaker:that took place there purpose and the vision of the
Speaker:belonging exchange. There is some extraneous noise because it was in
Speaker:a picnic setting. I ask you to be mindful of that. This
Speaker:is part of a short term podcast of
Speaker:three episodes. Let's begin by hearing from the founders
Speaker:of the Trifling Picnic and the belonging exchange, Phil
Speaker:and then Elaine Amerson.
Speaker:All right, I'm talking to Phil from the belonging exchange. Phil,
Speaker:what is this belonging exchange thing all about? Why are we
Speaker:here? And what. What's this all about moving forward?
Speaker:Well, for ten years, up to this year, we had a little
Speaker:picnic, and it's grown every year. We call it the trifling picnic.
Speaker:Just trifling means just time to play. And
Speaker:our family developed a family foundation called the Belonging
Speaker:exchange. So in year eleven, we're
Speaker:transitioning from the trifling picnic to the belonging exchange
Speaker:picnic. Belonging exchange is about helping
Speaker:people meet new people. Okay.
Speaker:And helping music meet new music. There you go.
Speaker:And helping friends discover
Speaker:a new friend and a stranger. So we're expecting about
Speaker:190 people today,
Speaker:just a few of our friends here.
Speaker:I don't know a lot of the people, and that's great. And so everyone's going
Speaker:to be encouraged to learn to laugh,
Speaker:to engage, and to meet at least two people they
Speaker:didn't know before they came. So this is kind of a cross section of the
Speaker:community people from civic groups, faith
Speaker:based groups, others who have been invited to be part of this. Right.
Speaker:So this started really as a group
Speaker:of Methodists, United Methodist folks, and
Speaker:slowly it's expanded. And the mayor
Speaker:of Bloomington will be here, Kerry Thompson, a lot of other
Speaker:pastors and faith leaders, but
Speaker:we're hoping to have a good number of african american folks
Speaker:and hispanic folks,
Speaker:of course, anglo folks, and just
Speaker:build bridges of relationship. Awesome. Awesome.
Speaker:And now, so that's what's happening here today.
Speaker:What's the impact, what's the vision moving forward for this?
Speaker:Well, we don't know all the ways it'll move forward, but one
Speaker:of the ways is we're thinking about hosting retreats
Speaker:where we might have, for instance, pastors and mayors of
Speaker:small towns come together for a couple of days just to get
Speaker:to know one another and learn to work together. And one of the dreams
Speaker:is to do that sometime in the next year,
Speaker:maybe primarily in southern Indiana at that point, perhaps at New
Speaker:Harmony Inn. Alright, go. Awesome. Well, and the
Speaker:encouragement is for people to come together and to help
Speaker:build on what's happening here, right? That's right.
Speaker:Thanks, Brad. Thank you, Bill. But we
Speaker:realized we needed to make a little
Speaker:more concerted effort to involve more people and to
Speaker:make it known what it was about. So the belonging
Speaker:exchange is our family foundation that focuses on bringing
Speaker:people together to understand one another, to live in
Speaker:community, be that right next door or a
Speaker:ways away. And that's the focus now, get people to know one
Speaker:another they don't know. Hopefully they'll make some new friends today. So that's part of
Speaker:what today is about, to bring people together who may not have had
Speaker:connections otherwise to either your personal connections or groups you're a
Speaker:part of. And so what are kind of your hopes or vision moving forward then,
Speaker:for how this event today might lead to something
Speaker:else? Well, we're encouraging people to get to know
Speaker:and connect and take, you know, information so they can stay connected
Speaker:and then perhaps something will come of that down the
Speaker:road. We're open to whatever. Yeah. So it seems to me that also
Speaker:there's a part of this is kind of intentionally connecting, like faith based groups
Speaker:and civic minded groups and coming together for the, for the greater
Speaker:good. Is that. Exactly. Is that a part of the vision here? Exactly. We're not
Speaker:political at all, but we are saying that a
Speaker:person has to be connected in the community with people who are there and,
Speaker:and leading and guiding and have some say in it. So we hope
Speaker:we'll bring them all together. Some investment in helping things to get get
Speaker:better. Absolutely. Absolutely. And that's why getting to
Speaker:know people who are different from you, you find out what's important to them
Speaker:and what needs to change for them for things to get better. Awesome. Well,
Speaker:share one more time your name and where you're from. Elaine Emerson, Bloomington,
Speaker:Indiana.
Speaker:My name's Brynn Walker. I'm a Hoosier. I'm from
Speaker:Indianapolis. I just moved to Bloomington
Speaker:because Kevin, my partner, is starting a PhD
Speaker:here in the fall, and I just started
Speaker:working on the congressional race. And
Speaker:could I ask for clarification on your last question? What do you mean,
Speaker:kind of? What brings you here, really? Why are you here at this
Speaker:event today? I'm here to make friends as
Speaker:I move to Bloomington and connect with people.
Speaker:And it's been really fun so far. I love the instruments
Speaker:to make friends and meet people in this organization.
Speaker:This new organization is designed to
Speaker:bring people together from kind of different backgrounds,
Speaker:civic groups, faith based groups, political
Speaker:groups. What's the value of that, do you think, in terms
Speaker:of kind of raising the greater good, bringing different groups together? Well,
Speaker:there's a lot of polarization today, but we really
Speaker:have a lot more in common than we have difference
Speaker:in a part. So it's great that that's what this organization is going to try
Speaker:to do. Bring people together, break down the differences.
Speaker:Good. Do you have anything to ask? Let me talk to you for a second.
Speaker:Tell me your name, where you're from, and kind of what brings you here today.
Speaker:I'm Kevin Chop and I'm from New York City,
Speaker:born and raised. Not a hoosier. Yeah,
Speaker:he's still learning to drive. Ok. I don't have
Speaker:a license, so she drives me around. Very
Speaker:good. I'm here to study philosophy, Bloomington, and.
Speaker:Yeah, also get to know the community and
Speaker:make friends and connect. As one former philosophy
Speaker:of religion major to a philosophy student, let me ask you,
Speaker:what kind of philosophically, if you allow me to do
Speaker:that, what do you think is the value, then
Speaker:of bringing people together who have different mindsets, different philosophies
Speaker:about life, how to do life, community stuff, politics,
Speaker:what have you. What's the value of that in terms of bringing people together? What
Speaker:do you think? Well, we
Speaker:have to think, and we have to think critically,
Speaker:and people who have differing opinions around
Speaker:us are the only ones who can actually help us do that.
Speaker:So, yeah, it's essential.
Speaker:Yeah. And that's awesome. I also trying to do some
Speaker:philosophy of religion. I know the religion department is
Speaker:connected to the philosophy department at. IU so I'm
Speaker:excited to maybe wander over there as
Speaker:well. I'm a buddhist, so.
Speaker:Yeah, I work a lot on Buddhism as well. And.
Speaker:Yeah, so there's some value of the
Speaker:diversity of different groups coming together,
Speaker:religious even, to be a part of something that hopefully will raise the
Speaker:greater good. Yeah. Well, tell us one more time your name
Speaker:and where you're from. Cavan Chada and
Speaker:from New York City. One more time, your name and where
Speaker:you're from. We're in Walker and I'm from Indianapolis.
Speaker:I'm Kerry Thompson. I am the mayor in the city of Bloomington. I've
Speaker:known Bill and Elaine a long time and I've
Speaker:been here in Bloomington since 1997. I grew up
Speaker:in northern Virginia outside of DC. Love coming
Speaker:to these gatherings because there's always a
Speaker:wonderful curation of many people. And
Speaker:Phil and Elaine have such a great way of bringing us all together
Speaker:for a social event that really turns into something more. Well,
Speaker:as the mayor, you have obviously an interest in civic
Speaker:things that are for the greater good. What do you think is the value of
Speaker:bringing together folks from various backgrounds, faith based groups, business
Speaker:related groups, civic groups, education, higher education,
Speaker:what have you. What's the value of bringing people together in one place in
Speaker:order at least to have some exchange of ideas and thoughts? That's what
Speaker:community is made of. And you know, too often
Speaker:today we really segment ourselves off and we have to have
Speaker:a faith based discussion about this and we have a business discussion about
Speaker:this. That's not really how our community works. Our community
Speaker:is made up of all of the people all of the time.
Speaker:And so in these now somewhat unique
Speaker:situations where we can bring many facets of our community
Speaker:together, it's really impactful to those of
Speaker:us who get to experience it. And you think of vision moving forward,
Speaker:how events such as this exchange of ideas might lead
Speaker:to whatever it might be, programs, events,
Speaker:educational type things that can kind of put some sort of
Speaker:a framework or format on helping these things to happen moving forward. At least this
Speaker:gives that a possibility. I think so. I think,
Speaker:you know, these kinds of gatherings kinda can source energy from people
Speaker:and what they, what they have enthusiasm about. And when
Speaker:channeled, well, I think it can have a bigger impact. Awesome. Awesome.
Speaker:So thanks for being a part of the belonging exchange and exchanging your
Speaker:thoughts and ideas moving forward. And thank you for being here. Tell us one more
Speaker:time your name, what you're part of and
Speaker:where you're from. I'm Carrie Thompson. I live here in Bloomington,
Speaker:Indiana, and I'm the mayor of the city of Bloomington.
Speaker:My name is Charlie Nelms, and I live here in Bloomington,
Speaker:Indiana. And I happen to know Phil and Elaine,
Speaker:and I was invited, and it's a
Speaker:wonderful opportunity to see people I haven't
Speaker:seen for a while, as well as meet new people. Meeting new people
Speaker:seems to be a role, important aspect of what this is about. People from
Speaker:various backgrounds. Sure, sure. Faith based backgrounds,
Speaker:civic groups, public services,
Speaker:ethnic backgrounds, all kinds of things. What do you think is the value of bringing
Speaker:people together for different backgrounds to try to, I don't know, put it.
Speaker:Put a positive spin on what can be addressing
Speaker:public good. So I think the most important thing is this, is that the more
Speaker:we know each other, the better we know each other, the
Speaker:greater the likelihood that we'll be able to decrease the divide
Speaker:between people because there's so much divisiveness. And so
Speaker:I just think it's a fun time to get together with people and reduce
Speaker:that divide between people. Awesome.
Speaker:To bridge that divide. And this is one of the ways to do that, right?
Speaker:Absolutely. One of the ways to do that. And hopefully people will continue to do
Speaker:it on their own beyond the trifling picket. Awesome. Well, thanks for being
Speaker:here. Tell us one more time your name and where you're from and what brings
Speaker:you here. My name is Charlie Nows. I live here in Bloomington, Indiana,
Speaker:and I know and appreciate very much the good work of
Speaker:field and Elaine.
Speaker:So my name is Diamond Alecarges. I'm originally from
Speaker:South Bend, Indiana, but I'm living in Indianapolis, and
Speaker:I'm here to support my friend Phil and the inauguration of
Speaker:this foundation. Yeah. So the name
Speaker:of this is belonging exchange, and this is the trifling
Speaker:picnic, kind of to help get this endeavor
Speaker:underway. Do you have any thoughts on
Speaker:this, what the purpose and what the meaningfulness of this event is?
Speaker:I know you came here to support filling in lane, but you have an idea
Speaker:of what this is all about, what impact it might be able to make?
Speaker:Well, I don't know about impact I might be able to make,
Speaker:but this is about friendship and belonging is
Speaker:all about people striving to be friends and
Speaker:lifting up love and philanthropy, you
Speaker:know, and community. So what do you think? Are some of the important points
Speaker:about kind of that community that you mentioned there? Kind of. For instance, the kind
Speaker:of the intersection, faith based groups and civic
Speaker:minded groups. How can those two groups and others come together
Speaker:to kind of raise the. Raise the greater good? Well,
Speaker:I think the first thing what's going to happen to the day is people are
Speaker:going to do a lot of listening, and I think that's the
Speaker:groups need to figure out how do we strengthen the muscles
Speaker:of deep listening. To our neighbors and
Speaker:deep listening to something that I understand that you have
Speaker:some background in it and some interest in it, right? Yeah, I have a little
Speaker:bit. Very good. Very good.
Speaker:You see how those. How do those things maybe help
Speaker:serve a greater vision moving forward to improve community? You think some of these things
Speaker:can come together, this deep listening and bringing people together such as this, can that
Speaker:be helpful? It can be if the intention for
Speaker:folks to be together, you know, integrated
Speaker:in community like as one, not segregated. Right.
Speaker:So if people's intention, and I think people are here to learn,
Speaker:how might we integrate our gifts, talents and
Speaker:dreams? Awesome. Well, thanks for sharing. Tell us one more time your name and where
Speaker:you're from. All right. Diamond harges. I'm living in
Speaker:Indianapolis, Indiana. Originally from South Bend, Indiana.
Speaker:Yeah. My name is Doug, and I'm here in Bloomington. Bloomington,
Speaker:Indiana. And I'm just here to support my husband,
Speaker:who's here actually working the event and just getting to meet some
Speaker:new people. Awesome. Awesome. The name of this event is
Speaker:the belonging exchange. What do those words
Speaker:mean to you in terms of your life or things that
Speaker:you're interested in? Things that you belong to or maybe exchanging of ideas? I
Speaker:don't. Tell me what you reflect about that terminology. I don't
Speaker:know. For me, it just is like diversity and just different people coming together
Speaker:and just being a sense of community and belonging. Right.
Speaker:Just like I said, just, you know, different backgrounds, different
Speaker:cultures, and just getting to meet and talk to each other.
Speaker:Awesome. Awesome. This part of the purpose here has to do with bringing
Speaker:people, civic groups, faith based groups, groups,
Speaker:businesses, what have you together. Do you think there's some value in that
Speaker:exchange of personalities, ideas, lifestyles, all kinds of
Speaker:stuff in terms of generating something going forward that is
Speaker:a benefit to the community. Associates, more about that, how that
Speaker:might. Any thoughts about that? Yeah, no, absolutely. If you think
Speaker:about the culture that we have now and the environment that we have in the
Speaker:world today, that's really important. Awesome.
Speaker:Awesome. Well, share with us one more time your name and where you're from. Yeah,
Speaker:Doug, and I'm here in Bloomington.
Speaker:My name is Tracy Yovanovitch, and I'm from Bloomington,
Speaker:I guess originally. Well, originally Stillwater, Oklahoma, but I'm a blue marine,
Speaker:so we moved back here about six years ago, and we're very good friends with
Speaker:the Emersons. And what brings us here today is just community,
Speaker:seeing other people talking to other people and just having
Speaker:a good time. It seems like it's also, you said, what brings you
Speaker:here today is community. But this is an intentional way to build community
Speaker:among maybe some people who may not come together
Speaker:otherwise. Tell me a little bit about the value of maybe building a community
Speaker:based on, you know, diverse backgrounds, whether it be ethnically or
Speaker:social thinking,
Speaker:politics, business, faith based, anything along that line. What's the
Speaker:value of bringing people together here? Oh, there's so many values. It's where to start.
Speaker:First of all, you get different ideas. You're allowed to have healthy
Speaker:conversations. It's constructive, should be,
Speaker:anyway. But it allows you, you know, it
Speaker:allows you to stretch your mind, it allows you to think differently
Speaker:if you let it. And I think that's the key. And I know that this,
Speaker:this is a safe, I know most of the people here, I know it's a
Speaker:safe zone, and you can have open conversations.
Speaker:And especially at this time right now, there are a lot of people hurting,
Speaker:not just financially, not just economically, but socially
Speaker:as well. And so I think the value of having, coming together in a community
Speaker:like this is immense. I think it's so important you emphasize this is a
Speaker:safe place to exchange. Right. The name of this event
Speaker:is belonging exchange. So that's something good about that. Do you think in a
Speaker:greater vision, maybe some other events or programs maybe
Speaker:come out of these type of things that can, maybe whatever they be educational, otherwise
Speaker:can be helpful to these type of things happening? You can always have
Speaker:things grow out of other events. It's just what the participants
Speaker:are willing to do with it. Sure. All right, well, thanks for sharing. Tell us
Speaker:one more time your name and where you're from. Tracy Ivanovich. I'm from blue region.
Speaker:Awesome.
Speaker:And Jada, where are you from and what brings you here today? Indianapolis,
Speaker:Indiana. I come with the learning tree. I'm with ZmI
Speaker:and seeing our friend field. Awesome. Well,
Speaker:learning tree, an organization all about educating people and
Speaker:things like that. Do you think events like this, this thing called the belonging
Speaker:exchange can be helpful to advance
Speaker:education? Maybe even for those who may, that may not have been
Speaker:a great opportunity. As for some others, I mean,
Speaker:yes. I think the start right now will be bringing
Speaker:people together, which we are seeing today. So, yeah, bringing people
Speaker:together. Yeah, is awesome. Have you seen evidence of that in the
Speaker:learning tree, how that organization has brought some people
Speaker:together who may not have normally got together?
Speaker:Yeah, pretty much. I've been doing it for, I've been
Speaker:with them for a couple, couple years, but I've been part of them for a
Speaker:long time, since I was like 1011 years old. 1011 years old. So,
Speaker:yeah, I've always been around people, bringing people together,
Speaker:connecting. That's what we do. Tell me a story about how you've seen
Speaker:that people coming together who may have been apart in some form
Speaker:or another, how that made a difference, how that made something new happen. That
Speaker:was kind of cool. I can tell you a lot of great stories. I would
Speaker:probably say what we do anyways,
Speaker:we go around in our neighborhood and we figure out our neighbors gifts and talents,
Speaker:and we pretty much bring people together.
Speaker:And one of the great stories that I do, that I, that I know
Speaker:is when we brought two neighbors together, one
Speaker:was trying to basically get her home
Speaker:remodeled, and another lady was just trying to open up her own
Speaker:Airbnb cleaning services. So we've connected
Speaker:them together and they have great friendships right
Speaker:now. And they might not have come together other than through
Speaker:your organization. Yeah. In that group. Well, tell us one more time
Speaker:your name and where you're from. Jada Ford from Indian Union.
Speaker:Thank you so much for joining us in this episode.
Speaker:One of conversations from the belonging
Speaker:exchange. This is episode number one
Speaker:of three, and so we invite you to join
Speaker:us in our next episode where we'll have more
Speaker:conversations from the belonging exchange launch
Speaker:event, the trifling picnic. It will include a
Speaker:conversation with Vincent Matthew,
Speaker:who provided the music for the belonging
Speaker:exchange. It was the introductory song of this
Speaker:episode. It was the bumper music which you heard
Speaker:provided between each, each segment. And then
Speaker:in a moment, you hear a closing song from Vincent. From Vincent Matthew.
Speaker:So you want to, among many other interviews, listen to that in
Speaker:episode number two and then stay with us for episode number three,
Speaker:this short three part series of
Speaker:podcast episodes to introduce you to the vision and mission
Speaker:of the belonging exchange. We, we did want to
Speaker:remind you that all the links to the belonging exchange and
Speaker:to other pertinent things will be in our show notes. So we
Speaker:invite you to check those out. So please join us next time here
Speaker:on the belonging exchange conversations. Until next
Speaker:time, this is Doctor Brad Miller speaking
Speaker:for the creators of the belonging exchange, Phil
Speaker:and Elaine Amperson, in the sure and perfect
Speaker:knowledge that indeed we do all belong
Speaker:together. To close this
Speaker:episode, here's a song by Vincent
Speaker:Matthew. I
Speaker:put this wine
Speaker:like the galaxies in time
Speaker:if it's freezing the white
Speaker:can be never leaving
Speaker:like what seashores there are shells
Speaker:by now
Speaker:quenches every
Speaker:so if
Speaker:it's special, then with the
Speaker:wire
Speaker:just making sure you dress and smile
Speaker:posing pictures aside,
Speaker:keeping danger from our child
Speaker:hold Jesus
Speaker:every
Speaker:life quenches
Speaker:every.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:In this magic why can't
Speaker:we make it everlasting
Speaker:like the lifetime of the sun?
Speaker:You will leave your heart undone
Speaker:but there's.