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Headliner - Product and Platform Updates
7th June 2022 • HNM Live • James Hicks
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My guest today = the leadership team from Headliner

Many of you in the content creation space know about Headliner. If you don’t - by the end of today’s session you definitely will have an appreciation for platform and the tools and services they provide.

Think audiograms, think repurposed micro-content across all social platforms, think video transcription - all the things.

We talk platform updates, when you can expect to take advantage of some of these updates and even some feature functionality comparisons to some other tools you may already be using, but could seemingly consolidate your toolkit and workflow by just using headliner

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Folks.

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Welcome to the digital collective.

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I'm your host James Hicks from Hicks new media.

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And on this show, you know, we focus on the people, platforms and tools

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that are making positive strides within the technology sector.

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Today, my guest is the fantastic leadership team from headliner.

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Uh, many of you in the content creation space know about headliner.

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If you don't, by the end of today's session, you definitely will.

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And you have appreciation for the platform, the tools and

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the services that they provide.

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Thank audiograms.

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Thank, uh, repurposed micro content across all social platforms.

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Thank video, trans.

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All the things, right.

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We're gonna talk about that.

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We're going to give a, we're gonna talk about some of the platform updates

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that they have, uh, what you can expect from these new updates, gonna dive

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down into 'em and hopefully this will be as engaging, as interactive as it

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typically is within this community.

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So with that, let's go ahead and get it in.

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Professional

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head.

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Well, you know, I, I, I do what I can, man.

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I, I, I step it up a notch when I, when I got got you on, you know, right.

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Neil.

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So ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the show.

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I appreciate you for being here in the community.

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And I especially appreciate these, these amazing brains and minds

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that are here today as well.

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To join me in this con, he's looking around for, he's looking for his kids.

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He's looking.

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It's gonna be that kind stream, the amazing brains and minds.

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Come on.

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Maybe's just Bailey.

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Let's just Bailey.

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Yeah.

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yeah, just Bailey for sure.

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Awesome.

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On a good day now, I'll tell you what, let let's go ahead.

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Some of my community knows who headliner is.

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Again, a lot of my community Tru were they, uh, business

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entrepreneurs and content creators.

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I had Oliver on a few.

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I mean a few months ago.

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Right.

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And he talked about some of the products and platforms that, that you have,

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but the origin story of what headliner is as a company and what you are

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providing today, if you want to, we can actually, so here's a little twist.

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If you, we can actually get into a feature functionality comparison.

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Some similar tools that are out there in the marketplace.

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I'm not gonna instigate anything, but , but I, but I want folks to

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understand and know what headliner is providing and the, and the value right.

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That you're providing as well.

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So with, with that, man, I'm, I'm gonna turn it.

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I'm just gonna leave that out there.

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Right?

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I'm gonna turn that over to you, man.

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Can you give the origin story of what headliner is?

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Well, thanks for, for having us on James.

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Uh, Bailey's gonna do most of the talking on, on our new product, but,

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uh, we're, we're happy to be here.

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You know, we've known each other from.

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The origin story actually goes back to our last startup to some extent.

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So our last startup was, uh, one of the big content recommendation

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companies on the internet.

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Uh, and so we've been in the business of helping people find great

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information for more than a decade now.

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Uh, so that company was end relate.

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We got the band back together in 2015.

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Basically focused in on audio.

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Uh, we had an app called spare men, uh, probably a little early,

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very focused in on social audio.

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Uh, the idea being in your spare time, you can help people, um, quickly make a

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micro podcast, uh, a very short amount, uh, Hopefully knowledge or entertainment

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or something to that effect, uh, and put it out there on the internet.

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And what we found was is when you shared audio to the internet, uh, it

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actually didn't resonate very well.

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Um, so I like to say, unfortunately, audio is a, a kind of redheaded

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stepchild on the internet.

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Uh, most platforms don't support audio.

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Natively.

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And so what we did is converted over to video, uh, and then all of a sudden.

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You got all the listens and the likes and the views and engagement started

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happening, especially on social media.

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Uh, so we actually pivoted the entire company over to this once

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again, kind of feature yeah.

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This feature we had on spare men, uh, which, uh, which I

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think Bailey came in and helped really rebrand around headliner.

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Uh, and so we've really been kind of just focused in, on headliner, helping people.

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Share.

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Like what we like to say is share the magic of spoken word

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audio across the internet.

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Right.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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So amazing.

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Audio is an amazing medium, uh, so much, uh, so much out

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there that's getting created.

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That's just not getting listened to just because it's so hard to get to.

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And so headline has really been focused in, on.

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Bringing audio to where people are.

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Uh, and our kind of core, main product that everyone's familiar with is, uh,

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the audio to video conversion tools so that you can, uh, put kind of flashier

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stuff out there on social media.

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In fact, I know, I know you've been a fan of it, so thank you.

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Yeah, listen, I'm, I'm gonna go ahead and give you these flowers ahead of time.

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Ryan.

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What, what you're doing with, with a headliner is just.

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Speed in, in front of what anyone else is doing be because it's a hundred

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percent customizable right there.

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There's some other fantastic platforms out there as well.

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But you kinda, you know, when you look on the, on the, on the internet and you see.

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An audiogram or, or video conversion or transcription from X, Y, and Z company.

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Again, everyone does, does a great job, but with headliner to the

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Instagram, you can customize it.

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You can customize the wave form.

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You can customize the text, you can do all the background.

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I should get a, like a hat or a shirt from, from the company, cuz I I'm here.

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Process sizing.

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Consider it done.

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We'll get, we'll get you one.

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No, we'll get.

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I will make sure folks, if you don't already have, uh, a link to the

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platform, I will, I will send you a link to headliner as well, but

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it's crazy what you were saying.

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What's old is new again, right?

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Cause you, you were so early for audio.

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and if there's any blessing of the, of the pandemic, there is no

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blessing, but the fact was, again, folks now start re-looking at

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podcasts, reconsidering, just the audio and the communication piece.

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And I think that's kind of where see that, that perfect segue to,

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to what, what Bailey's doing there.

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You know, cuz he's the one that does all the work Neil you've got the,

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the co-founder and the CEO headline.

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But yeah, as I, as I like to say, I take out the garbage still, you know,

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so that's cause Bailey's tagline is, you know, living at the crossroads

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of design marketing and strategy.

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Huh?

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I do my homework.

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Yeah.

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I do my homework.

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Yeah.

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That was pre headliner.

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I'm sure that might still apply, but that was my, my solo days.

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But yeah, go ahead.

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I was gonna say, so tell folks, you know, what your role is and then

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about the, the product and how it integrates into the overall platform.

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What you're focusing on right now and what we're looking to, to bring the market

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from, from the corporate perspective.

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Yeah, so I'm Bailey.

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I do, uh, I'm the product lead for edit Eddie.

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Uh, you might hear me refer to it as Eddie.

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Um, it's our headliner's new text based podcast editing solution.

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So we launched it officially on product hunt a last week mm-hmm and UN we kind of

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put it out in beta two months ago to get some early users of headliner to try it.

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It is really an, a podcast editing solution.

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Um, it allows podcasters to upload their audio, get a transcript and edit

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their podcast from the transcript.

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We created this when we had this overwhelming feedback from

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podcasters of like what was taking, what was the hardest.

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Part about podcasting.

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It was editing kept coming up and up again, which we were thankful for

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because it used to be marketing their podcasts and what to do with that.

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Right.

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And so, um, we, we help, we like to think we helped solve some of that

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with headliner, the main company.

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And so we wanted to tackle the next big issue, um, which was editing

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and, and making editing easier.

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Uh, Biggest kind of issue we were hearing was that it was time consuming and that

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was a high learning curve for all of the products that exist out there now.

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Uh, so we were solving that problem by making it text based, which I've

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mentioned, which is like a familiar, non wave form based way to edit.

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Uh, I can.

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That's edit.

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Yeah.

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That's um, yeah, it's a familiar non-text form way to edit.

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You read it like a text document.

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You delete sections of the audio, like you would from, uh, the text itself.

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You can actually, James, do you want me to switch it over to my text?

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Yeah, let's do that.

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This Bailey's Bailey's gonna take over now folks.

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I'm just gonna sit back and be the wizard of Oz behind the, behind the scenes here.

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Right?

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I love it.

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See, this is, this is what happens in real life too.

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yeah, so it kind of, well, it's helpful to like, show, um, what I'm

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talking about versus just using words.

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I'm a visual person.

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So for me, at least, uh, but yeah, this is Eddie.

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This is a project open and Eddie.

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Um, of, uh, actually a Twitter space that's been recorded

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and then transcribed here.

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Uh, we have the transcription in the center and then

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speakers on the left hand side.

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So if you wanted to edit this audio, traditionally, you would upload

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this into a doll which would then have a wave form that you just

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kind of have to figure out what.

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What to do from there, but with Eddie, you upload in here, you

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can read through our listen back.

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So you hit play, not our podcasters and it starts playing the audio back.

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So you can listen and follow along at the same time, or you, if you are in a silent

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space that you don't have headphones, it doesn't stop you from editing your audio.

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You can simply go through and read and say, Oh, we don't want, so Jay and

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screenshot shows the podcast tab, right?

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Like for some reason we decide this is not what we want in the final edit.

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You highlight it.

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Like you do text and then you can hit this delete button or

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backspace on your keyboard.

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And now when you play the audio back, yeah.

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So looks like it's gonna be it skips this section of audio.

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Um, so that's now deleted from your final exported audio.

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Another kind of thing with Eddie is we're not perfect.

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Uh, we're new little babies.

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Uh, and, and so you might have noticed, I don't know if you can

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hear the audio, but there's a little bit of so left in this cut.

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Yeah.

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So looks like, and you just, if that ever happens, which is not common,

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but does happen, you just click into the word and there's a wave form.

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You just adjusted over to where, um, it covers the entire wave

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or, or the section of the audio.

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Yeah.

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And you hit playback and then you can check and make sure it's good

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and continue on with your editing.

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That's really, that's cool.

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Cause that's, that's so easy and I'm, again, I'm, I'm thinking of the content

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creators that are here in the audience and those that are gonna watch on the replay

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and just thinking of some other tools that are out there and just what you.

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Then just now bringing up a separate way form and, and being able to

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slice and dice very meticulously.

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That, that that's a check mark in, in, in the, in the Eddie

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column for sure right now.

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Yeah.

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We wanted to keep it as simple and as unintrusive as possible.

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Mm.

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Uh, sometimes the hardest.

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Part of the new software is just that it's very intimidating to

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look at where you're, you don't know where to click, what to click.

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So our idea was to just to let you start, um, and then you start

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and then to edit it's another step that's quick and easy to do and

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accomplishes your goals, uh, of getting, getting it well edited episode out.

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Another cool thing about Eddie that I'll mention real quick is you can.

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Well, you can search for anything, but we have a quick, a quick tag of filler words.

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So we have a list of common filler words like, um, uh, mm-hmm um, those,

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those type of words, where you can click this, it will find all of those

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filler words within your audio and return the results here from here.

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You can delete them individual.

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It'll take you to wherever they are.

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Uh, you don't always wanna delete filler words.

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Sometimes they help.

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Yeah.

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And so you can just listen back and say, actually, I wanna keep this

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one, but I wanna do delete this one.

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And you just hit the delete button and then it's gone.

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You can see, and then clicking back, you can adjust if needed or leave it

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as is, um, And if you wanted delete them all, all you need to do is

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hit the delete all button, and then you can see they both grade out.

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This is a shorter document with well spoken women who did not

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use many ums or OS when talking.

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Uh, so that's another kind of newish feature that we have.

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And then, then the last thing I'll say about Eddie, And that you can,

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you can update the transcript we wanted to, we always wanna help

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podcasters improve their workflow.

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And since the transcript was already here, we felt that we be beyond just

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being an editor of the audio, that it would be a nice to have to allow

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podcasters just to come in and update say, uh, since was not supposed to be,

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since we could update this to whatever.

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Um, like we would want it to be, uh, let's say Sally, not sure that makes

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sense, but, uh, you can update the transcript by double clicking in.

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Okay.

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Or if there's a word that's misspelled, mostly names can get misspelled sometimes.

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So say Jane is actually Jane, you just correct all of them

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through hitting, correct.

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All.

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and then all Jane will be updated to Janie.

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So you see Jane, there's no results now.

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And Janie there's three.

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Got you.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Listen, you got fans.

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You, you you've been talking all of 10 minutes and like Mr.

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Matt Haas says, I didn't know this existed, but he's gotta have it.

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Right.

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I mean, that was just so simple and so easy.

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So that edited transcript, that file is saved.

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Hopefully somewhere, right?

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Wait right up there export.

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Right.

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So I can actually export that file and upload that into

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YouTube so I can have that there.

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That's what I was looking for the V the VTT file.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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So you can export your audio here.

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Any audio that's exported is in the file format of the audio that you uploaded.

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So upload MP3 and it's exported MP3 wave, etcetera.

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Uh, this is, uh, dot dot X all.

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So a text file, and then VTT here.

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SRT has been requested and has owned the roadmap to come in and then hopefully not.

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Hopefully the plan is in the next couple of month, month or so to have video

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support as well, video support as well.

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Talk a little bit about that.

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So this will allow right now it's audio only.

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So you can upload just your audio.

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Um, but many podcasters have switched to using zoom or other video

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platforms such as you right now.

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And they'll be able to upload the video file and edit the same way.

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So making a cut here will make the cut to their video file.

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So it's not just audio.

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They can have the YouTube video also be edited at the same time.

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That's too cool.

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So, okay.

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All kind of questions are popping up in my mind.

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And I know some of the folks that are watching right

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now, Neil don't get nervous.

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I'm not, I'm not gonna, I'm not anything that's under NDA.

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No, no, no, no, but I wanna highlight one thing.

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Yes, sir.

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Which bail which you touched on.

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So, so I think the beauty for at least for me, from what we have

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at headliner is we've had a, we have a lot of these pieces.

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Uh, and so Bailey was able to put this product together.

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in literally like three months or less.

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Wow.

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In a matter of weeks.

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Right.

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And you know, I think the one thing I wanna stress is what Bailey mentioned

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around the steep learning curve.

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Right.

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So podcasting, if you think about the industry before anchor, uh, kind of made.

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Uh, mobile podcasting.

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It, it became, it, it, it was kind of daunting to a lot of people, right.

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Non-technical people, right.

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Uh, and anchor has some pros and cons and so on, but what it did do, no matter

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what, even if you're anti anchor is, is that it brought so many people who wanted

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the podcast up to podcasting, but then.

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You got to editing your podcast even just to clean up a little bit.

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And then now all of a sudden you got onto a whole new steep learning

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curve, uh, of like, how do we do this?

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Uh, and where do we do it?

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And so on.

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And I think some, and we're hoping that basically this tool can become, uh,

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a much easier kind of replacement to some of the audio dolls out there or.

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Or even some of the text based kind of editors that have really moved

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into like super steep learning curves and, and very pro type tools.

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Um, and hopefully get, like I was saying before, is all this like amazing audio

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out there in the world for people to, to hear and listen, definitely Def now

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my question and that actually modes another question that I had, I'm just

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gonna forget the notes that I had.

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Yeah.

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I forget the whole runner show, right.

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I mean, um, being able to.

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Share that across multiple platforms.

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Right?

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So how this integrates with headliner co right.

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O overall, am I able to take that, that transcription,

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turn that into an audiogram.

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Am I able to share that across multiple, uh, social platforms as macro content,

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is, is there some integration or some hooks behind the scenes of, of disco

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and Eddie and, and, uh, you know, and all the things that, that you.

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Yeah.

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I'll I can kind of take that.

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Um, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Glad you asked.

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. Yeah.

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So with Eddie, it's kind of great.

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We already have it.

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The, in Eddie, you can select the text and instead of clicking the backspace

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button, like I showed to delete the text, you might have noticed a video icon.

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That video icon takes whatever audio you selected with the

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edits that have you you've made.

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So if you deleted an on that will be deleted, okay.

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And that will be sent to headliner to make your audiogram, um,

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transcript and everything.

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So right now that's the integration between headliner and Eddie.

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Uh, and, and as we move forward with Eddie in particular, the goal is it's

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all Neil mentioned that we have a lot of the pieces to kind of this bigger.

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Podcasting puzzle, and we want to better, better help podcasters

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discover their episodes.

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And with Eddie that will, we will be looking into how we can help

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them funnel their podcast into disco or through headliner to

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better promote their episodes.

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So, so there will be tools.

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Different features that we build out over the next kind of quarter or two, that's

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connecting all of these together to create separate, but one big kinda, super,

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super stream of helpful podcaster tools.

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Gotcha.

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Gotcha.

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I'm a folks in, in the community there.

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If you got a question, put a queue in front of it so I can

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bubble it up to do Bailey ane.

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You mentioned it.

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So I'm gonna ask it, you talked about disco, right?

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And, and again, that, because a lot of us that are in the content creation space,

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not only do video, not only do audio, but we also do the old school contextual

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blog piece, that integration piece.

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And could you just explain what that is?

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So we don't wanna assume by, by just mentioning the platform and I'll actually

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show it when, when we bring it up here.

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Oh, thanks.

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Yeah, James.

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Um, yeah, I'll jump in here.

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So.

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So Bailey touched on it a little bit earlier.

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The two biggest issues we heard for podcasters is how do I grow?

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Uh, how do I grow my show?

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I E market, uh, effectively.

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And then secondly, um, this whole, like, Post production or

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like editing your podcast and getting it ready for out there.

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Those are the two biggest pain points.

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So, so headliner the social tool that everyone's kind of, uh, familiar

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with us, uh, has, has gotten podcast out there to, you know, on the

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order of 50 to a hundred million people a month via social channels.

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Right.

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And now.

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We are kind of trying to do the next thing.

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And James, you know this from our previous company, uh, we are trying

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to get podcasts contextually.

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Wherever you might be specifically on, on articles on the web.

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So the idea being, you're reading an article about, um, college

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graduations, which, um, which I know you're or high school graduations.

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Both.

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Yeah, yeah.

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All of the above.

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Um, if there's podcast related to that topic, uh, we can bring those, um, there.

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And so right now, We've just started this, uh, product for the last few months.

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Uh, but you, you actually have it running on your blog as you can see there.

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So that box below related podcast, you, you can tell all the ads, right.

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Where, where I've been shopping, where I've been looking all these B ads.

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I know all the contextual, I should be running in an INCOG needle moment.

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Oh, well, but yeah.

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but, uh, the idea is, is that, uh, your podcast content.

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gets delivered to your readers and we can convert readers into listeners.

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And if you think about it, there's still a lot more readers on the internet than

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there are listeners mm-hmm to podcasts.

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Right?

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So the internet, we like to kind of think big numbers here.

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So the globe is about 8 billion people.

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Uh, the Internet's about 5 billion people.

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Four to 5 billion, uh, and podcasting still only in the few hundred

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millions, but these news websites are in the billions as well.

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Right.

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And so how do we help, uh, spread, uh, the magic of podcasting out there?

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Mm-hmm this is our next kind of product that really focuses

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in on beyond social and YouTube.

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Getting your audio out there onto more places where people might consume.

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So, how is Eddie going to mm-hmm I, I guess, and, and maybe it's too early to

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ask, how is Eddie gonna look again at the bottom of, of a post on, on my site?

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Is it gonna be just an audio ground with the contextual words or, or how have

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you already thought about that piece?

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Bailey?

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Yeah.

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How the piece is put together?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Um, well, I think we're still trying to flush it out to be,

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be, be honest, but I think.

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What Bailey talked about is, Hey, we've got, there's kind of two

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pieces of things, uh, happening.

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One is what Bailey talked about, which is taking a piece of content,

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uh, from Eddie and being able to quickly make an audiogram.

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And from that audiogram, it can get dispersed out on the disco network,

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either through an ad or organically, like on your page, et cetera.

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That's that's one way, the other way is.

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We've got this immense amount of data of like, Hey, here are the clips that

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are now working and resonating across the internet, uh, or that people are

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going and creating in headliner, right?

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So we're making 10, 20,000 videos a day in headliner.

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We know, Hey, these are what, this is the text and the

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audio that people are picking.

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We hoping to bring that all the way back into Eddie so that when

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Bailey's looking at that big transcript dump, all of a sudden.

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Hey, here are the interesting areas of the podcast based upon what we think.

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And maybe this will save you time, figuring out what

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you wanna promote as well.

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So we kind of see it as can we take these pieces end to end and stitch them together

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to make the entire process easier, better?

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It sounds better coming from you than me, but, but that's

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exactly where I was wanting to go.

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I really want folks to understand kind of the, the consolidation of the tool.

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Right.

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And, and being able to use one main umbrella platform, headliner, do the

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audiograms, do the transcription, do all the things like, like I say,

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under one, one umbrella, as opposed to clicking on this link, clicking on

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this link, importing exporting and all of that, everything just seamlessly

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will work together and provide a high quality, uh, high converting

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piece of, uh, piece of content.

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Bailey, let me ask you, are there, are there current

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limitations in terms of how so?

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How do I get the files into Eddie first?

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Right.

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Would be one question.

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How do I get the files into Eddie?

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And are there limitations or requirements in terms of, uh, uh, file style

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file types for, for Eddie as well?

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Right?

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I mean just, um, the MP3, MP4, whatever the mov all of those things, right.

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That we worry.

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That we probably shouldn't worry about, hopefully that you worried about, but

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are, are there requirements for how to get the files into and what files that

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you actually allow into, into Eddie?

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Yeah, so I didn't show the dashboard, but the screen before

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what I showed is the dashboard.

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You go to edit eddie.com and once you're logged in, you'll be on your dashboard.

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Which from that screen, you just drag and drop in or upload your audio file.

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What type of audio file that can be is any common one that you use?

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So, uh, MP3, MP4, uh, wave M four, a, uh, AAC.

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So kind of covers the gamut and for size.

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Well, you let us know so far you there's no restrictions in place that

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would stop you from uploading any size, but performance might decrease

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if you, I, if you go insane, if you wanna test it and you're like

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here's 24 hours worth of audio.

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Yeah.

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It, it probably will, uh, take a long time to process and might, might time out.

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But any two hours, three hours file size is, uh, all.

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Okay.

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Four hours.

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Okay.

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Cause I think, um, the record is we, we call it a five hour energy screen, right.

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Kind of in the E cam community, but at, at a most we're

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talking 60 to 90 minutes right.

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Of, of, of, uh, of content and that transcription time.

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Can you, can you give kind of a rough estimate of, uh, 45 to 60 minute

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audio file uploaded into Eddie?

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How long before I see that transcription?

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Yeah, a third of the.

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So if it's a 90 minute episode, then you can expect it to take about 30 minutes.

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Mm-hmm uh, on a good day.

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It will be a little less on a bad day.

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It will be a little bit more like 35 minutes.

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Um, but it's typically a third of the time is a good, a good estimate.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Uh, I'm just ready to put it to you.

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So I, I know I'm kind of already using it, but I don't, I don't wanna show folks my

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dashboard because you know, it's things that they shouldn't be seeing just yet.

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Uh, I know you've, you've, you've only been knocking away at this for

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a short period of time and just the, the level of effort in the time.

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And what you already have to produce.

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And the fact that it's already out there is phenomenal.

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So, so kudos to you on that, but, oh, thanks.

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We're greedy.

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It's a team effort.

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Well, Oliver didn't do anything cuz he's not here.

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We could talk about him.

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Neil again was just there taking out the trash.

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But uh, you know, again, it was all, that's very important.

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The trash be taken out.

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I'll tell you like cut and do it.

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If the trash is still here.

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Hilarious, hilarious.

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Uh, I was gonna say, you know, we're greedy.

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We now, now we have audio from.

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And you, you know, we want video too, right there, there we are

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moving towards that dynamic.

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We know that YouTube is going to start supporting video podcasts on the platform.

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And again, that's where a lot of content creators are

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focusing their content delivery.

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So where do you fit kind of into, in that continuum, in terms of, of

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the roadmap of being able to support video podcasts, uh, uploaded into.

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Yeah, so we, we definitely wanna give podcasters video, but it's important

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to us that we keep up with their needs.

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Um, and video's huge, right?

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We're a video company first and we're kind of like per going backwards and

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not backwards, but like going back to audio first to really our goal is to make

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sure that the editing process is simple.

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And that it's usable and that we have all of the kinks of editing, not all,

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but a good, many of the basic kinks of editing worked out before we introduce

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a different set of, uh, features like video, um, are complexities, I guess.

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So videos next up on our roadmap for big teachers and we, we

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will be having video support.

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Here here, soonish and yeah.

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So it will work very similar to the audio.

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You can, we'll be able to export immediately.

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You'll be able to export the video file or you'll be able to send the

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same way you do with the audio.

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Um, now you can send it to a headliner.

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Then from there, we will, we will probably explore how it looks

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to have the posting straight to.

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Or if that goes through headliner itself, since you can do that now through

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there, headliner has automatic posting to YouTube, which is the fun little

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thing people might not know about.

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Yeah.

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I mean, talk a little bit about that because I use that.

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Daily, right.

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and, and it, and it's so convenient again, to be able to pull the audio out.

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So, so talk a little bit about that capability.

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Again, taking out the steps in the workflow and our, and

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having headliner do all of those administrative tasks behind the scene.

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So we can just focus on the content and you're already automatically

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exporting to, to YouTube.

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Yeah.

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Neil's probably better to speak on it than that.

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I know high level that, uh, you can do it.

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And, but most of my energy is usually focused on Eddie.

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Yeah, I can jump in.

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Um, So I, I guess the big update to headliner last last

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year was our automation engine.

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Right.

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Which, which does exactly what you said, which is which you set

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a feed and set your template.

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And hopefully you forget about it.

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Basically.

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We will, we will take your audio and publish to YouTube, uh, directly,

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uh, either your full episode.

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So there's been a bunch of.

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Podcasts whose YouTube strategy is essentially a headliner converting their

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videos up and getting audience via, via the audiograms for their full episodes.

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Right.

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Uh, and then, uh, what we also have in automation is the ability to take

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clips that it goes back to that stuff.

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I was talking about earlier around trying to figure out the best parts of a podcast.

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And serve it up to people, uh, that doesn't auto post, because we want

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users to kind of approve that because there's when the AI is great, it's jaw

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dropping, but when it's not great, yeah.

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People are like, why did it pick this?

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Right.

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So, so we don't have auto posting on that, but it's gotten there where

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people have said, Hey, can you just auto post this stuff out to social network?

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So you'll probably be seeing that.

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before the end of the year from us as well.

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Okay.

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Um, so the whole idea is, look, you've you've, you've done the.

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Hopefully to make amazing audio content, uh, from there, all this other stuff, uh,

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around promotion and editing and so on.

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Let us try to MIS simplify that as much as possible, uh, across our, our, our

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kind of suite of tools and automation.

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Uh, just makes a lot of sense in there.

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Like, you know, why should you be doing the same tasks every week?

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Just because you produced a new episode.

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If you're gonna go upload this to YouTube, label it the same,

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follow some template, et cetera, et cetera, all that can get automated.

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And that's all automated now in headliner.

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It's one of our kind of.

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Core use cases for YouTube at this point.

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Okay.

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And like you said, YouTube's grown tremendously over the past few years.

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It's it started out as one of the smaller, uh, places people shared and

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now it's, it's actually grown into the.

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To place most, uh, our largest social network.

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Uh, I'm curious to see, we just launched, uh, LinkedIn last month,

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an integration with LinkedIn and with TikTok, I think just this past week,

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uh, I'm curious to see how these, how these new newish platforms linked in.

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I know is making a big push into podcasting and TikTok being it,

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push into everything it seems like.

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Yeah.

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Um, so I'm curious to see what, where things, uh, shake out, but.

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but Instagram was a kind of our leading platform where people share too,

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but now YouTube's kind of overtaken it over the past year as well.

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And, and I think largely because of this, uh, automation feature to take

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your entire episode up to YouTube.

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That's cool.

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That's cool.

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I want, I wanna mention something as, as well about headline into that.

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I don't want folks to be overlooked.

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The fact that you have a mobile app that, that works and is incredibly

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functional, was one of the reasons why I, at the day, zero set I'm using headliner

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as opposed to something else, right.

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Being able to save it on the web, then access it, immediately offer

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them off the mobile app and then push it out to wherever, just the

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functionality that that's built in and, and the tie in between the,

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the desktop and the web interface and environment to the mobile app.

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Kudos to you on that, man, because, because that's huge.

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You, you, you may, oh, thank you.

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Think that that smaller thing or insignificant that test well hit,

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it was actually, uh, backstory.

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There is, it was actually just to better support Instagram posters, right?

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Like, I mean, Instagram didn't support, desktop posting mm-hmm um, and so

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we had to go through mobile and.

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And so it was really kind of put, put together again, our team is just amazing.

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I think we turned that around also in like less than two months, the

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first initial kind of mobile app.

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And I think it.

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. I mean, I'm still floored.

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How many kind of reviews we get and how much people love it?

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Because I know, I know you're complimenting it.

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We still haven't reached feature priority with the desktop app.

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There's still things you can do in desktop that you can't do on mobile.

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Right.

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But that automation to YouTube, uh, a lot of the workflow stuff.

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Not so much all the creative bells and whistles you see in headliner, but in

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terms of most of the workflow stuff, all that's in the mobile app, which,

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which, um, which really has been.

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Know, it started out as I think now it's, it's close to almost,

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I think one out of every three signups comes from our mobile app.

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It's that's cool.

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It's pretty impressive.

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That's cool.

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You guys, you keep talking about what you've done in two months, a quarter.

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Imagine after a whole year, right?

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What what's coming out of the yeah.

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Going outta head outta the headliner camp.

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I've got two specific questions that, that I want, want to ask and Bailey.

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The first one is, is to you.

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Um, Transcription is included.

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Transcription is, is tough, but you're including that with, I guess,

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I guess all of the plans, right?

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Are there specific plans that are offered tier or whatever the case may be?

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And, and I guess I could wrap 'em all the questions up into this

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having transcription included.

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Are there limitations on words, hours, minutes, that, that type of thing,

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and then the pricing strategy, right?

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Cause at, at the end of the day, right?

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We, we, we, we want it.

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How much is it gonna from a, from a wallet perspective and, and from

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an investment and subscription perspective, whatever the case would be.

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So, so be, I guess I'll, I'll turn those over to you.

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Yeah.

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So pricing's always interesting for any company, but especially in podcasting and

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with us, our goal is to, um, you know, make things easier and to help the space

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move forward and also keep the lights on.

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So we like to keep things as, as free as possible.

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And sometimes freer, um, you know, we don't, we don't like cheap,

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cheap, we like free type of thing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But, uh, so that's kind of with Eddie, we're trying to figure out in the process

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of figuring out what the best way is to, to keep it going through monetization

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and also support new, new podcasters.

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Get over that hump.

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Being a new podcaster, right?

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Like no one, the upstart costs, we don't wanna replace the editing cost the time

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to edit with an actual monetary cost of like, oh, I can't continue this podcast.

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Cause it costs too much, which inevitably will happen.

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Um, but we we're very conscious of.

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Doing the right thing in terms of pricing and how that relates

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to the current headliner pricing.

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Um, all that to say is we're still figuring out exactly

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what the pricing plan will.

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For Eddie and how it relates to headliner and headliner tier, uh, transcript,

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no matter what will always be included in every tier that exists for Eddie,

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because it's the way that Eddie works.

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Okay.

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But without transcription, we, you cannot edit your podcast, right?

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Uh, that doesn't.

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Yeah.

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So I think that there will always transcribe your audio with Eddie,

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no matter what tier you're on.

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And then limits limits.

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There will be limits.

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Eventually there will be a paid plan, but the free probably, but

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the free plan will be generous.

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Um, take, take advantage of it now is what's the same, but get

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it now folks, get it, get it now.

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But, but also as you know, with headliner, we're probably the, uh, most free.

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Uh, I know, I know you probably have a paid account because of

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all the stuff you do and so on.

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Yeah, James, but, but, uh, we're probably the most free out there on the.

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On the kind of landscape of people who do this.

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And, uh, and, and we, because our mission isn't necessarily, uh,

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just solely focused on the dollars.

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It's it's, like I said, uh, from the get go, it's all this amazing content.

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How do we get it out there in the world?

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That that's really where we stay focused and, and, um, My investors may not

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like to hear that, but, um, but you know, as long as we can keep growing

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and, um, and bringing in some more money, which we've done a decent job

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of, we can, we can keep it as free.

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Uh, and, and, and let more creators use the tools they need

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to keep on growing themselves.

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Love that.

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I mean, we, we will, we will, we pay attention to what we pay.

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Right.

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I'll I'll I'll, I'll, I'll say that.

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And, and a, and a high majority of folks within this content creation

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ecosystem, no value and what, whatever you set that number to be and whatever

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feature set it is, tier one, tier two, three tier, whatever the case may be.

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Um, The folks that are out here really doing this to be doing

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this will be receptive to that.

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So I, I just, and it's good to hear coming from, from you, Neil again, that, that,

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that concentration, and, and that focus on making sure you do the job right.

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As opposed to worrying about, uh, other things, right.

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You you're gonna keep the lights on.

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You're gonna keep some food in the, uh, in, in the, in the conference room

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refrigerator and, and all of that.

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And, and, and things like that.

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But.

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Being focused on making sure that, uh, the product is right.

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The integrations is right.

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Eddie hooks in to headliner hooks in the disco hooks in to backstage.

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Is backstage still a real product?

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Are, are we still doing clubhouse?

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Define, define real.

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are we so okay.

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ID say, I, I mentioned clubhouse, so I guess Bailey tell folks what, what

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backstage is and then I'll I'll regress.

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I, I know I keep going all over the place.

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It's like a squirrel, right?

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If, if there's good.

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So backstage kind of boomed last year with the rise of social audio, uh, it was let's

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call it the first iteration of Eddie.

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Uh, it LA about a year ago, I guess now, uh, Clubhouse was

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going off was massive amount of following people were signing up.

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Twitter spaces had just launched.

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People were, you know, doing audio through there and there's this real

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need to have these spaces recorded back to headliners, kind of made mission of

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sharing the magic of spoken word audio.

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This was a huge rising star of spoken word audio, and there was no way to get it

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from that live in the moment to anything.

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Um, without a bunch of hacks.

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So we came up with backstage, which started as a, or is a, uh,

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recording platform for Twitter spaces and clubhouse rooms.

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Uh, it also included a transcript like evolved from there to include

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a transcript and to include these summarization chapters and share pages

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to allow you to share that audio.

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um, directly out onto a hosted page, right?

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So you, it was able for someone to listen back to any episode in

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an easy way that include chapters and included the transcript.

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So that will eventually come into Eddie.

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Uh, okay.

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It's a similar enough platform and Eddie is being actively worked

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on and is also transcript based.

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So he'll be able to.

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The people, we still actually have a surprisingly good usage on it.

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Like people are still doing Twitter spaces, um, and maybe less people

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are showing up to them in person, but that's why we're here is to help more

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listeners hear the knowledge that's being shared on those live rooms afterwards.

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So that will just kind of be like an end point into Eddie as these.

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Okay.

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Right.

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And, and I, I personally appreciate that cuz probably my most vocal

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community is, is on Twitter.

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Right.

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And, and I would, would love to be able to record, uh, some, some of those sessions

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and repurpose them, move them about across other other platforms and things of that.

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So to, so to hear to that being folded and not being completely

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abandoned is, is, is a great thing.

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Um, Where are we at?

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What's what's what I don't wanna say.

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What's next.

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Cause again, you know, if Neil wasn't here, right?

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Cause we, we could talk about roadmaps in NDA and, and all those things,

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but you got, you got the boss here, so we're not gonna talk about secret

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private stuff, but I don't feel like the boss, but, but video video will be

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a big, will be a big sea change as a whole, uh, Bailey kind of touched on it.

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It's not as, it's not just a drop in easy change, it needs to be supported properly.

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So you're gonna see better video support across the whole spectrum.

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Um, and I think the other, the other big thing is, uh,

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we're gonna try to get disco.

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Disco kind of the fabric of disco or like the value of disco of getting

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listens for people, uh, out there more, because we wanna not just provide

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the functionality to promote, but we actually wanna be helping you promote.

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Uh, and that's, that's what we're hoping to add.

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So there's not just not just the best tools to create, uh, and

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repurpose, but also a way to help you.

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Meet your goal with, with the work of doing that?

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Uh, repurposing basically love it.

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If that makes sense.

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Yeah.

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Makes 100% clear, right?

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Yeah.

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Bailey you gotta close it out.

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Right?

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You, you, you tell us where to go now, literally and figuratively, right.

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You know, URL of where to go to, to see what's coming up.

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What's next.

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What's here today.

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And, um, Any, anything else that you want, wanna mention

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specifically about edit Eddie?

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Yeah, I think, uh, anyone can sign up and check out, edit Eddie, edit

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eddie.com and it's free for now and a hundred percent free for now.

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Uh, the more you abuse it, the quicker, it will probably become paid , but , but

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it is, uh, yeah, you can go there and upload and edit your podcast.

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Feel free to give any feedback.

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To me, there's a little light bulb that you can push in there to send feedback

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and let me know how you wanna improved.

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And then if you want to create audiograms and don't have a headliner

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account, you can go ahead and do that.

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Our automated YouTube videos that will automatically publish.

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Once you publish your episode, you can do that by setting up a

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headliner account at headliner.

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Listen, look at that folks, ladies and gentlemen, I'm, I'm gonna drop,

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she just dropped the mic right there.

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And Bailey is true.

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Uh, you click on the light bulb.

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If you got an issue, you got a question or concern feature request.

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She'll respond to you in like 15 minutes.

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Right.

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I've got the responses in 15 minutes.

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So, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm humble.

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She doesn't re respond.

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She doesn't respond to me in 15 minutes.

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Respond.

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I know.

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I know.

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I'm just kidding.

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I don't wanna get you in trouble, but I don't wanna get you in trouble.

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you, you guys are doing the good work though.

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Send this to some people yeah, I'll keep it recorder so you can send that part.

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Listen.

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Yeah, you guys, again, as I said are doing the good work.

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Appreciate you.

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Um, we didn't have to talk about competition.

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Because, I mean, what you're doing resonates and matters, and again helps to

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folks understand and folks know, right?

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The, the words that, that we, that we use really, really helps folks

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understand that this could be.

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On par, this could be better than something that we're already using today

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and why not take a look at it, right.

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Take a look at how I can repurpose to other micro content locations.

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How I can be more customizable in my, my sharing, how I can auto

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populate my podcast to YouTube, all those things that we really want.

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We as a content creators want to be doing effectively.

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Why not let disco headline.

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Edit Eddie, do those things backstage, all, all those.

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I gotta say all, all of the, the kids in the family.

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Right?

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Do those things for us.

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So for that Neil Bailey, I thank you for taking some time out of your day

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to come and talk about the products.

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And I will make sure that folks have links to, uh, headliner and edit Eddie

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so they can take advantage of it as well.

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Thanks you James.

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All right.

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You guys be good.

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