In this episode of the Rooted Business Podcast, Rachel and Jess dive into the spiritual tools and practices they lean on to stay grounded while building and growing an online business.

They share how they first met in a manifestation group, why staying connected to your intuition matters in entrepreneurship, and how spiritual practices can support clearer decision-making—especially when business feels chaotic or overwhelming.

You’ll hear about the tools they use most (and why), including:

1. Manifestation practices and speaking intentions into the day
2. Pulling oracle cards for clarity and validation
3. Journaling and meditation as a way to move through mental blocks
4. Yoga and movement as a “moving meditation” for focus and grounding
5. Using nature walks and voice notes to capture creative downloads
6. Human Design basics and how understanding your energetic blueprint can change how you work
7. The difference between discomfort that helps you grow vs. being truly misaligned
8. Why “balance” isn’t a destination—it’s constant recalibration

This episode is for you if you’re building a business and want to stay rooted, aligned, and resilient—without forcing yourself into someone else’s version of success.

We’re rooting for you. 🌿

Welcome to the Rooted Business Podcast.

I'm Rachel, your intentional marketing architect.

I'm Jess, your systems and ops guru.

This podcast will talk through our experiences as seasoned business owners open up about our triumphs and challenges.

We'll share candid conversations and invaluable insights to help you establish a business that stands the test of time.

Together, we've navigated the ups and downs of running a successful online business.

And we know firsthand hand the importance of finding harmony in your hustle.

All right.

Hello and welcome back.

We are here after.

I feel like I haven't talked to you in forever, but I know it's only been about a week.

We took a week off last week to enjoy, I guess the holiday weekend.

And yeah, want to shift some things around.

Rachel's watching her nephew, which is why we built our businesses in the first place, just to be able to have the freedom and flexibility to shift our schedules where we need it.

So I'm glad we honored that and enjoyed our long weekend.

Did you take actually take a long weekend or did you use it to catch up on some work?

A little bit of both.

I was like, when I felt inspired, I jumped on and would get something done really quick.

And then when I was done and bored, I just logged off.

But for the most part I was like, I'm going to respect because we're going to record this on, on Monday.

And I said, let's be good business owners and not.

And so I think that's like me honoring my boundaries there.

Yeah, I like not having commitments, but I also like having the freedom on the weekends to get ahead if I choose to or be able to get ahead if I take off.

I think so many people like, emphasize, don't work on the weekends, take this off.

And like, for me personally, I don't mind working six or seven days a week if I'm like only working shorter days and I have the flexibility to like as well.

Yeah.

Stops working on weekends.

That's awesome.

Today we're gonna be talking about a.

Another.

A topic we haven't.

We've touched on briefly, probably in epic every episode.

But today we're gonna be doing like a little deeper dive into like, spirituality and the tools that we pull in from the like, spiritual space to help us stay grounded and grow in our business.

Yeah, I think there's quite a few tools that both you and I use and then even like reflecting on how we met and all of that, like it was all through these kind of non business, more spiritual side of things so that we can really ground down and make sure we're not losing our brains while we're going through this crazy journey.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So if you missed it in episode one, Rachel and I met in a manifestation group.

It was a random group.

We joined in Facebook just to give you the quick thing where it was based on Gala Darling's morning manifestation principles.

And we'd speak into the universe, our affirmations, intention, and desires, every single morning.

And I attribute that group to me not giving up much that first year, because that first year of stepping out on your own is so hard.

But I think immediately we also notice that we have other things in common.

Like, I see Rachel pulling her cards every morning.

I love to pull my card as well.

I actually, like, I pulled a card right before here, and so it has.

Brilliant idea.

This is our card for us.

So it says, unless your idea is divinely guided, so please take action to bring your idea to fruition.

Oh, my gosh.

And when you.

Like for people who maybe don't pull cards, I feel like I get a lot of validation and, like, guidance.

And if that is not validation, that this podcast has been so much fun just to record, just to talk and explore this side of a different marketing channel.

Like, brilliant idea.

I love that.

Yeah.

And this one actually, like, I'm super weird.

Like, this one actually popped out of the deck when I was walking.

Like, I was walking and it just, like, fell on the floor, and I was like, this is our car.

And I think it's relevant.

I know you're working on some new ideas.

I've definitely got some new ideas work, and this podcast is just a new idea.

So it's great to see that we are on the right track.

According to.

Do you have any other things that you lean into on a regular basis?

I notice most when I get stuck or when I get, like, brain fog and all of that, I always go to journaling and meditation.

Those are, like, my two.

I wish I'm, like, more structured in it.

I've tried to follow, like, the artist way, but that's so hard to get up immediately and start writing.

But, yeah, journaling and meditation have been, like, two of the biggest, like, tools for breaking through when I am, like, the most stuck, the most blocked and all of that.

I do journal sometimes.

For me, it's very hard for me to sit still talking.

I talk fast, I move fast.

So most of the time, and it's not about.

It's got about getting, like, this excess energy, like, out of my body so that I can sit still and think.

So that's where my yoga practice just comes into play.

Like, place where I'm not, like, meditating.

Like, can't do it, cannot just sit there.

It's never going to happen.

But getting into pose and, like, contorting myself into these weird positions and having to concentrate on one thing and hold it, I get so much just, like, clarity and space.

I almost want to have, like, a notebook next to my yoga mat because, like, the thoughts that are, like, slow down.

Because it's trying to focus on holding that pose is something great for me.

And I also just love to go on walks in nature.

Anything where I'm moving my body and maybe not listening to podcast or not listening, talking to someone on the phone, but just kind of walking so that my body has something else to concentrate on.

And that kind of gives me the space to have those great thoughts.

Not uncommon for me to pull out my phone and start voice recording thoughts that are coming to the service as I'm walking.

But, yeah, anything sitting still issue for me, I just got my.

I don't know if you can see it back there.

Just got my walking pad.

So walking and working, and I thought it was gonna be really hard to do, but it actually, like, I know.

I'm like, two weeks into my walking pad, and I think I'm, like, up to about maybe an hour walking, like, a day.

I'd like to get more in, but sometimes I just overheat and I'm like, I just.

I need to sit down.

But I find it so fascinating that I am more lean, more towards, like, the still meditations.

But my yoga teacher will always tell me, like, what we're doing here is move, a moving meditation.

So, like, going through the processes, aligning your breaths with each mo, like, movement and everything.

So you're still meditating.

It's just moving.

In addition, I don't even know if you know this, so I am certified yoga teacher, but I'm also Ayurveda, and Ayurveda has a lot to do.

Ayurveda therapists.

Soy Beta has a lot to do with just, like, balancing out, like, the elements.

So, like earth, your earth element, your fire element, your wind element.

So vada, a lot of wind, a lot of movements.

That's what I contain.

Like, you're made up in all of it.

You'll have different, like, compositions, like, earth.

I'm gonna guess that Rachel's a little more earthy than I am, and I'm a little more winded and crowded just by the way she Speaks and the way that I speak, which is a lot fast.

So it's all about finding, applying the opposite to find the balance.

So if you're finding.

And I was thinking this this week, like, signs that your business may need a little more grounding energy into it.

Which when I think of grounding energy, I think about being like, a lot more, like, intentional and planful is you're having a bunch of ideas but, like struggling to get started, then you need to apply some grounded.

But in the same way, like, if you have too much grounding energy, maybe you're just stuck in like, that day to day.

And like, you can't, like, you need, like, a motivation to move forward.

And then you might need some ideas or inspiration and what can you find?

What business tools or even spiritual tools can you tap into to invite some, like, fire and determination?

Where I think, like goal setting, like public accountability and stuff, is that more, like, fiery element of it?

So what can you do to pull yourself, like, forward out of that grounded state?

So I've been thinking a lot about how do I classify the different, like, processes and things that we do in our business from like, an energetic standpoint so that you can apply the opposite and find that balance and move forward at a steady balance rate.

Oh, I love that.

I've never even considered how you can drill down into each process and assign, like, the type of energetic, like, level and all of that.

I. I'm fascinated.

We need to.

I need to know what you've.

I need to see it in your notion essentially, like how you turned this because.

Yeah.

So these are the thoughts that come to me during a yoga class and why.

But the problem is sometimes too, it's like after yoga, it's gone if I don't write it down immediately.

Like, I need to remember this because this was such an energetic breakthrough.

Oh, like, I need more grounding energy in my.

I feel like that's planning where, you know, goals are by yourself.

That's so fascinating because my space like that is like the shower or when I'm driving.

I have the most incredible ideas flow to me in those two places.

And then I like, step out of the car or the shower and gone.

I'm like, what is.

It's fascinating to me, but I don't know.

I'd love to be able to capture those and do voice notes.

But it's fascinating how it just.

It's like a safe space and your brain flows freely.

And then.

I know.

I feel like for a while I would wake up very early into the like artist way and write down and I feel like that they say that like that quiet time between 4 and 6, which is really early.

I know but 4 and 6, like the.

The VL is like thinner.

So you'll get those like inspirational downloads.

Better time change is coming.

It might be easier for you to wake up earlier.

So maybe wake up and try to do some journaling and see what comes out.

I'm not a morning person at all.

Do your voice note.

So another thing that Rachel and I connected over was human design.

I think.

Essentially.

Essentially.

If you're not familiar with human design, it is when I explain it, when I say this it's gonna sound super boo.

Basically like a guy got a download, I don't know, I think from an angel.

Don't quote me on that.

I am not a human design expert.

I've only done self study, read a couple books about it, but got a download about the system and the way.

The reason why it attracted to me to it is because it combined a lot of the like other spiritual systems that I was already aware of.

But it's one thing.

So it has elements of Ayurveda in it.

It has elements of like Chinese medicine, elements like Buddhism and all of that.

Elements of astrology.

Kind of like all of it combined.

And when I first started reading it I was like oh my.

The whole.

If you want to look it up, go.

There's plenty of resources on that we could create.

Maybe put them in the show notes.

But for this purpose just sharing.

I am a manifesting generator.

Report 4:1 manifesting generator with the sacral response.

And Rachel is a manifester 35 profile.

My inner authority is emotional and Jess way more about this stuff than I do.

I have read through more of the manifester side of things that I'm like yep, yep, like it.

It all hits and it connects into the right places.

How to implement and utilize foreign.

It's so foreign to me.

But I've explored other accounts and stuff and it's incredible when you live in your design the like way things just fall into place.

Yeah.

And I think a lot of it is one of the things that I love most about human design and both ARIA Beta is there's so much compassion that we are like all unique and we're all like made up of different elements.

And the way that those elements manifest in you and your body like present different challenges.

Operating from a get up and go level.

And so I found so much compassion for myself being like, oh, no, this is how there's nothing wrong with you, but, like, this is your energetic blueprint and there are things that you can do to kind of balance yourself out.

So noticing when I do need to get more grounded, that sort of thing.

Um, but one of the main things that kind of go against the green in human design is your, like, strategy for bringing things in the world.

Yeah.

Because a lot of that we are taught with the just do it mentality.

Like, just make it happen, just do it.

Where in reality, according to human design, like, only manifestors can just do it.

And that is Rachel.

Thank you.

I think they're like 10, I have no idea, like 10% population.

It's not a lot rest are generators or projectors for the most part, where you're gonna have to wait to respond.

If you have an idea for me, and I need to take this on advice and write it on board is like, if you have a good idea, because I have them every day, do not go.

Create the offer, create the website, create the landing page.

Do that all in one day.

Because with my energy, I can do it.

Yeah, but it will pull me off course and it is not meant to be.

The correct response to be is exactly what happened with this podcast.

I had an idea that I wanted to do a podcast forever.

It was on my annual plan, just sitting there in my notion project board.

But I didn't do anything with it, and I knew that I wanted to co host.

And Rachel and I connected, like, randomly.

And the idea to ask Ray Kay if you ever want to go, it's just like randomly popped in my head.

So, like, I responded to, like, an idea in the moment that I have, rather than just having the idea and making it happen.

It's like my ideas need to marinate on the shelf for a little bit and then I can take that idea once I respond to it in like a physical form, if I get a gut sensation of a yes, which for me, I get the zoomies, I run around that sort of thing.

Like a sacral response yes, to actually do it.

And Rachel, because she had this question for me, she sent it to me of what does it mean to inform what?

So my strategy is to bring things world is to wait times.

Rachel's strategy is to inform, which for me, I think informing looks like when you have an idea, like sharing it.

So from a marketing capacity, I think it is like taking people like behind the build of the project, like showing them like your Thought process of getting it so that they're.

You're informing them along the way so that you can bring them along with you.

Because a lot of times I feel like manifestors are going to be like, leading the charge.

So that's what I've gotten from it.

Yeah, I think because I've done some research on this and obviously, like the strategy to inform plus my right angle cross of extension feel really the stars wanted to make my life very difficult.

I've researched on like, the cross of tension and it's literally saying breaking the molds, like sharing those kind of aspects of Whoa.

And I could be wrong on that.

But that literally is how I've approached email marketing in general, where people have this mindset of like, email marketing as very much like spammy less blast.

And I've always approached it like this is a person on the other end.

And not a lot of people teach that kind of like, customer journey, like the intentional side of it, like the nurturing side, the human side of marketing.

And it's one of those things that I've always journaled about, like, in the sense of really making sure that my values comes through, as I do not ever want to manipulate someone using marketing.

And I think that is like the opposite of what people do with marketing.

And I don't know, I guess the validation of, yeah, you're going to piss some people off.

You're not going to always be well received.

Like, that's there and it's reassuring.

But it's also very difficult to run a business.

Only a certain amount of people connect with that message because they're not.

And then I always live by the mantra, like, people receive what they're ready for.

And that's how I know my audience connects with me who are ready for that message, not the ones that are like, yeah, I actually do want to spam people or I don't care how salesy I come off, I need the money kind of thing.

I don't want to attract those people.

Align, like, at least with what you know about the.

What is it called?

Like, the incarnation Crosses.

Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

So I had to just look mine up.

What my incarnation.

And it is the.

It's the cross of shock.

I'm supposed to shock people, which I think sometimes I do have a tendency to say things that, like, elicit.

Basically, I'm supposed to, like, shock people out of, like, their way of operating and call them up into, like, a new way of being.

Yeah, I'm glad I'm a podcaster now because I can like talk and shock people, but.

But I also have one.

And if anyone's a human design person, message me is that I'm a 4:1, which means like fix fate.

And for what I understand, like, I can't mix anything up.

Like, I'm just like this fixed ride.

I love that affirmation or mantra.

I can't mess this up like you.

I have fixed fate, which is like a very rare thing.

So, yeah, I do like to lean into human design.

I also like to lean into a Veda as just a way of operating in a way that is balanced with my soul.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The human design.

If anybody listens to this and is actually familiar with more of this than we are, please fact check us, message us, because we're so fascinated by this.

Maybe we'll even bring someone on there.

Actually talk to us about this in.

A knowledge kind of like lab.

This is from our own experimentation of what works.

For me, my what works, what I know about myself is I'm going to have a million ideas.

And I was talking about this with one of my clients yesterday.

I have learned this so many times of like, when I try to force things to make happen, which again, goes against the grade of anything we're trying to create business, they tell you create your offers, go out there and market your offers, do this.

But for me, it's.

I find more success of like just surrendering.

That is like, as long as I'm sharing my passion, sharing like knowledge, even from content creation, like, I've been leaning way more into content creation, being more consistent with Instagram.

But I find that I get better responses when I'm responding to something.

Either I'm creating content that's like, in response to like client questions I've got or things that are actually happening, rather than trying to be like super strategic and map out an entire funnel and eco, like all of the like content web and stuff like that.

And I want to find a way to balance that because I know that those are relevant.

Yeah, totally.

I think that was like, that brought up a TikTok and I tried to find it for this call where it brought up this.

Like a lot of the people you see that go like viral and have like big energy and like those big content creators that just have this like type of attraction space.

They all are certain design from like the human design perspective.

I tried to find it.

I couldn't get into it.

But I know that I think when you're starting out as a business owner or you're starting your new business or as a freelancer or whatever.

And you're just trying to create these systems that work for you, but you're having, like, so many people yell at you, like, oh, this is the path.

This is the place to.

Or the plan to do, like, here, buy this roadmap, and blah, blah, blah, blah.

And it's really important to always lean into.

And I ask my clients this.

People who've been in business for years and years.

I always say, what feels good to you?

Like, oh, you don't want a live launch.

Okay, let's reverse engineer this so that you're not using all of your energy in this space.

And I think that's something that if I could go back to baby business owner Rachel, I would have her be so much more intentional about asking that question in every opportunity, like, every investment, every decision that I made, because I was quite literally, if you're in the online space, you hear so many people just, like, shouting, this is how you run a business.

And you're like, that doesn't feel good.

And it gives you this, like, doubt and, like, insecurity of, can I actually run a business in a different way?

And the answer is yes, because literally, it's your energy that's going to create the success.

And if you're constantly depleted, you're going to quit, give up all of that.

So definitely one of those things that intuition honoring your energy alignment is, oh, I wish I could go back and tell baby baby business Rachel this.

Yeah, it's almost like you have to.

It's not what they're saying is it's not that it's not valuable, but it's like, you need to pick and choose and you're going to develop your own toolbox.

Like we're talking about here.

What is working with you?

And I think for me, another big thing that I've noticed is, like, if I'm resisting something instead of beating myself up about, like, you're lazy or you're such a procrastinator, you're not doing this, like, really going deeper and trying to identify, like, why am I having so much resistance to this task?

Like, what part about it does not feel aligned about it?

So that I can make shifts that way so that it's something that you're excited and you want to show up to do.

And yes, there is room.

It's.

Everything's balanced and, like, juxtaposition.

Because it's like, yes, in order to grow, you're gonna have to get comfortable being uncomfortable.

But there's a difference.

Between being uncomfortable and being unaligned and, like, figuring out what those two feel like in your own body is probably one of the most valuable things that you can do as a business owner.

Yeah, I.

That brings up one of my, like, favorite mantras that I've heated to myself as I've gone through business.

And it's like, in the discomfort is where you grow.

And that doesn't mean you're hurting yourself or you're, like, putting yourself in, like, dangerous situations, but it's literally like your comfort zone is there to keep you, like, safe, so, so to speak.

But you're like, outside of your comfort zone is where you get challenged and where you learn and where you grow.

And I think it's one of those things that if you just embrace feeling a little bit uncomfortable because that's business, baby.

Like, it's one of those things that you get used to that discomfort a little bit and you're more willing to step outside and try something new.

But always coming back to that place of, how did that feel for me?

Oh, it felt okay.

Or, oh, I think I want to try this next time.

It's all about trusting yourself in the process.

And unfortunately, I think there's so many people that capitalize on people not trusting themselves and being the guide and the answer towards a lot of business owners in the space.

But if you can create a practice that's rooted in your intuition and trusting, know your body knows, then I think you can create some very smart decisions without those hefty investments that, you know, come with the business chaos.

Yeah, for sure.

Okay, so I feel like we did, like, a quick roll call of our spiritual tool.

We pull cards, we journal, we do yoga, try to figure out what our human design is and live that.

I think that's like a constant exploration of coming into yourself just like, rebated.

Never going to be something that's finished.

It's always going to be about finding growth and balance, and then you're going to grow and then you're going to get unbalanced.

And it's like, there is no end destination to this of finding a balanced business or even building a rooted business, which we're talking about.

Like, you're never going to be like, I have arrived and I have a completely rooted and balanced business.

It's going to be constant balancing and rebalancing to that.

Any closing thoughts?

Rachel?

I would love to know other practices.

If you're listening to this, share some of your favorite spiritual practices that have helped you stay aligned in business.

But Other than that, we're rooting for you guys, and I hope you guys like our podcast so far.