In this episode, we're diving deep into one of our favorite Practical Hug tools: Good, Better, Best. This framework is all about giving yourself a menu of options instead of one impossible "perfect" standard — and then actually celebrating whichever version you accomplish. We talk about the mindset shift that makes "the bare minimum" a foundation instead of a failure, how Lacey learned this tool while navigating chronic illness, how Sara is using it in real time to prepare for a trip while managing pain, and how it shows up as a daily prioritization tool. We also get into why self-help can feel icky and what makes Practical Hug different: you're not doing this alone, and there is no finish line. If you've ever beaten yourself up for not doing the "best" version of something, this one's for you.

Timestamps

1. 00:00 Welcome and Real Life Energy
2. 00:40 What Practical Hug Means
3. 02:04 Good Better Best Mindset
4. 04:37 Chronic Illness and Perfectionism
5. 08:12 How the Tool Works Breakfast Example
6. 10:52 Trip Prep House and Packing
7. 16:17 Using It for Daily Priorities
8. 18:27 Self Help vs Practical Hug
9. 26:44 Momentum and Joyful Support
10. 29:33 Gratitude and Wrap Up

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What's one thing you've been putting off because "best" felt out of reach — and what would "good" actually look like for that task?

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Welcome to No Shame in Our Game where we do self-help together.

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I am Lacey.

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a little frazzled, but here your co-host

along with my fellow co-host Sarah.

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Hi Sarah.

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Sara: Lacey yes A little frazzled is

okay cause we've all got something

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going on It's all okay However you're

showing up this morning I'm a little

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Scattered We can't wait for things

to be perfect people You gotta just

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ahead It's gonna be messy You make the

best of it and you keep on laughing

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Lacey: That's something we're good at.

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We're good at continuing

to giggle and laugh.

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well today I'm excited because I realized

as I was like getting everything ready to

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come up here today, it gives us another

opportunity to talk about practical hug

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and how Practical Hug is gonna work.

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So, one of the big reasons why

Sarah and I have shifted to the term

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practical hug is because we want.

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To give you tools to use in different

parts of your life that support you,

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that's practical, but also a hug.

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'cause it support, see

practical hug, boom.

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It goes together.

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Anyway, so today we're gonna,

last week or last time we talked

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about the joyful support tool.

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So that's one of our tools.

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And today we're gonna talk about another

one of our tools, which is good, better,

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best, if I had to say, is probably the

one I use the most in my day to day life.

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Sara: Yes this is such a funny thing

of these tools are so great and I'm

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so much better at explaining them and

prompting other people to use them I need

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somebody to prompt me to use them cause

good better best is super useful And

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in preparation for this Lacey actually

said to me why don't we talk about good

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better best and you preparing for your

trip And so I've been for the past 24

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hours been good Better besting my trip

in my head and I'm like oh this is

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really helpful I I need to remember all

the time that there are options It's

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not done or not done There's variations

which as I will explain I very much need

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the variations at this moment in my life

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Lacey: I, well, the first thing that

I wanna make sure we talk about is

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good, better, best is for tasks, but

it can also be like for prioritization

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and all these different things.

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But when we look at it based off of tasks.

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One of like the key things that you

need to like think about first is

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a little bit of a mindset shift.

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Okay?

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So we have this term that we use

a lot called the bare minimum,

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and it's got a negative context,

like the bare minimum is bad.

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You shouldn't be doing the bare minimum.

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the bare minimum is done.

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And that's, that's kind of the, the

change in your mental state as you're

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going through these should be, is that

the bare minimum means it means done.

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We're not judging anything.

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It's done.

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And guess what?

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Done equals good.

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Boom.

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That's our foundation.

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Yeah.

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Good equals done.

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And done is good.

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Not done.

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Not good that that, you know, obviously

it's much grayer than that, but that's

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a big shift I think for a lot of

people to the, to have that I, that

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realization of like, oh, maybe the

bare minimum isn't the worst thing.

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Maybe the bare minimum is a foundation.

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Sara: Yes and like you said it is a mind

shift because I think our audience is

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primarily Women who like to take care of

others like to give like to support like

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to show up right But there's this societal

whispering that we've had our whole

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life of yeah you're gonna show up and

you're gonna show up over the top perfect

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Pinterest perfect Martha Stewart Perfect

If you're gonna bring cookies to that

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baked sale they better be organic made

from scratch fresh out of the oven wrapped

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with a perfect bow And it's even though

we're not always showing up like that

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Even if we show up with the good enough

we beat ourselves up So it's not only

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knowing what is the good and the better

and the best version it is also accepting

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good Yeah let's celebrate It's not about

beating yourself up for not doing the

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best the organic from scratch cookies Hey

you showed up with napkins Guess what you

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contributed You get a gold adulting star

Guess what That's awesome There's no full

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stop There's no beating yourself up you

showed up If you had more time energy and

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money perhaps you would've shown up with

a different version for that bake sale I

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could stand on a stage and talk for hours

about this so I'm gonna try really hard

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to bring it down to a 30 minute podcast

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Lacey: I learned this tool at

probably one of the best times of

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my life of when I was chronically

learning to be chronically ill, in

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my new world and that kind of stuff.

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, It's really interesting

because best wasn't possible.

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Like, and, and that's a, that was

a really big mind shift for me of

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like, oh, I can't achieve that.

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That is not something that I

am able to achieve anymore.

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Once I was able to give myself that

permission of like, oh, this doesn't

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really exist, then I got to really

redefine a lot of my life and what,

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what actually needs to happen.

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I also realized I, as a recovering

pre perfectionist, was always

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operating at best at a minimum.

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And that is just one, not

realistic at all for me anyway,

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but wasn't realistic for me before.

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It doesn't always have to be that way.

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, I got permission from the world

because my body stopped working.

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So you don't have to go through that.

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I'm giving you permission now to,

to not always have to be best to

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recognize what is done and what is good.

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yeah.

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Sara: and a couple of interesting things

from that is you could also then adjust

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what best looks like now with chronic

illness there could be a best from pre

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chronic illness that isn't even on the

spectrum anymore Like that just it's not

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even an you know so you new best could

look totally different When you said

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recovering perfectionist that was always

your line And I'm always like yeah I'm

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not a perfectionist I'm fine But recently

I had a very self-awareness conversation

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with my sister Where we were talking

about how I got to this position where

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I've been incapacitated on the couch

debilitating back pain And she was like

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what could you simplify And I was like

what do you mean life is pretty basic

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And she's you do complicate you do overly

complicate a few things in your life and

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I never really saw it as Perfectionism

So I guess we get to be aware that we

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can hide that word in different places

I was always thinking yeah but it's the

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most logical thing to do or it's the

most like I had different words I was

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using when in reality I was just masking

that I was trying to always do Secretly

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the backdoor best perfectionist version

but calling it something else I'm like

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this one just makes the most sense to

do it this way To go to five different

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grocery stores to get the most cost

effective soup and cereal And in reality

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I was draining my resource Becks when I

could have just done good enough which

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is to just go onto one grocery store

website and just get everything for

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pickup from one plate Oh we're having

some real time self discovery here people

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Lacey: Yeah, I mean, I, if I am the

poster child for anything, it's,

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it's, grocery delivery at this point.

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Our grocery has like a, a membership

plan that you can pay like 60 bucks

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a year and get free grocery delivery.

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It has changed our lives because

it can come no matter what.

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And it can mean that we can

meal plan however we need.

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We're not like calculating a whole

bunch of stuff along with it.

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And by eliminate, this is an

interesting one, by eliminating that

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best, we have gotten better with

our like food and and meal prep.

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So they're all interconnected

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Sara: It

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Lacey: that's more resource

buckets, which we'll talk about

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at some point in the future.

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Sara: No this is that's like

such a great insight Good better

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besting in one area can help you

good better best in another area

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Lacey: we really need to actually

explain what we're talking about.

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We, we've kind of alluded to it,

but just to be very clear, good,

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better, best is taking a few minutes.

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To really think about what

needs to be accomplished, like

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what will accomplish this goal.

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So my favorite example is a breakfast.

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'cause I think everyone

can kind of relate to that.

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What do you need at breakfast?

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You need to be able to be satiated enough

to go to throughout your day, right?

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To get to the next meal,

that kind of thing.

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so what society might tell us is

breakfast is the most important meal

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of the day, don't you know, and you

gotta have so much protein and make

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sure you get those veggies in as well.

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Whole grains don't, don't come in

there with this, like non whole

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grains stuff, wipe bread or like all

these different messages, right, that

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are like, okay, this is the perfect

breakfast to do what you need to do.

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So that's best.

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Right.

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It exists.

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It's there.

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It's the best breakfast that you

could have to optimize your day.

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But in reality, if you just need

a protein bar, boom, accomplished,

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you've met the goal, you know, you,

you don't need some elaborate, you

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know, avocado toast with, you know,

fresh eggs and no you protein bar.

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Boom.

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That's good.

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You've met the goal done and then

better is somewhere between the two.

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Maybe it's some overnight oats with,

do you put overnight oatmeal and over?

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I don't, I I'm oat milk.

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I'm not a, I'm not an alternate milk gal.

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We just do regular milk.

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I get really confused by all those,

you know, with some berries and

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then, you know, you throw hard boiled

eggs in and there's your pro like.

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You've kind of created a menu.

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A menu?

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Sara: I'm sorry Did you just put

hard-boiled eggs inside Overnight oats

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Lacey: No, no, no.

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As a like side.

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So like you, when you're looking

at your breakfast plate, you've

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got overnight oats, you've got

hardboiled eggs, you got berries.

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Sara: was like I don't know what you do

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Lacey: No,

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Sara: but I'm not okay with that

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Lacey: Although I have seen something

about savory overnight oats, I've never

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tried or experimented with it, but yeah.

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So it, but what it is, is you

have created a menu of options for

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yourself to create, to finish a task.

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Sara: Menu of options I love that

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Lacey: everyone accomplishes the goal.

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Everyone's good.

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You got a little more time,

you got a little more energy.

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Boom, better if you are killing it at

life today, you have the all the time

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in the world to make that breakfast.

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Best you get those macros, fiber stuff in.

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Otherwise your protein bar's

just fine and it's good.

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Good.

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You accomplished it.

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That's good.

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Better, best.

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Sara: we're leaving on a trip and I'm

comfortable sharing this cause this

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podcast won't come out until after the

trip Hello future Sarah So we're gonna

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be going on a trip and as I alluded to

with the five different grocery stores

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and the best price right Like I have a

very particular pre-trip planning I like

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my house to be clean I want the trash

emptied I want all the dishes done I want

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the whole house the back I want everything

so clean that when I come home it feels

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good And realistically we have a dog

sitter who comes and stays at our house

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So there is a kindness involved in that

So there's the pre like getting the house

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ready then there's also the packing and

making sure that I have all the stuff The

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actual getting to the trip So there's two

parts that I'm good better besting but

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with the getting the house ready I already

know I told myself this morning best isn't

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happening Like I I got to just erase I

got to just cross that off So I'm really

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focusing on good enough I'm like okay the

dogs sitter needs clean sheets to sleep on

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I'm assigning cleaning the bathroom she's

gonna be using to my kiddo So I'm like

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okay clean sheets clean bathroom Okay So

actually I think if I stopped there I'd be

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okay It's it makes me a little itchy but

I'm like you know what that's where I am

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And that's what it needs to be from that

If we can get the whole house vacuumed I

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can get someone to take out the trash and

then ideally not me but somebody in my

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house would do the dishes before we leave

so that all the dishes are clean yeah So

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in between having the house immaculate

and just having the sheets clean and the

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bathroom clean there's some wiggle room

but I'm going to be okay And guess what

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My dog's gonna be okay And my dog sitter's

gonna be okay just good enough happens

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Lacey: Also, first of all,

don't say just good enough.

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Good is good.

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Stop qualifying it, miss,

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Sara: Thank

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Lacey: and it's not,

it's not gonna be okay.

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It's gonna be good.

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Everyone's getting what they need.

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You know, I, I, I don't know if

you need a compliment from your dog

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sitter on how well your house is kept.

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I'm gonna say no.

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You know, so I just, I think,

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Sara: Wait hold

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Lacey: good it.

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Sara: I need a compliment from everyone

I am So my my human design I am so

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compliment hungry It's also my Enneagram

design I am yes So that is something We

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are talking from the trenches of life

from we are in the messy middles with

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you people So I am real time discovering

as much as I say like your house is not

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a reflection of you It's totally okay

We all need to open our doors Like I

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need to actually embody that Okay This

is okay We're doing some deep work here

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Lacey: Love it.

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Love everything about it.

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Absolutely.

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Sara: I feel like because I've

said this on the podcast like I

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get to hold myself true to this Now

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Lacey: Well, I mean I look forward

to future Sarah hearing it too.

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'cause I, if I had to guess,

she's gonna need to hear it too.

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Sara: if you just there it's okay

No matter what your house looks

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like when you leave it's okay

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Lacey: Girl.

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You're doing great.

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Way to go.

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Sara: so that's the one That's the one

Good better best And then my other good

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better best is I've really and again I'm

so thankful Lacey prompted me to use this

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tool Again this is I'm helping myself but

I'm doing it with Lacey She prompted me

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She reminded me and I'm like okay what

is the bare minimum I need to pack what

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is what could I absolutely be Would it be

unrealistic to have to buy down there so

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my prescription medications which let's be

honest I have a whole Ziploc bag full of

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those now So my prescription medications

a number one I have to have it would be a

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lot easier if I bring my own swimsuit with

me so I don't have to go swimsuit shopping

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Lacey: Yeah.

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Sara: then some basic clothes So

if my good I have a lot of dreams

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of other things to bring but if

it doesn't happen best is there's

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some games I wanna bring to play

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So yeah I'll be okay I'm gonna

be it's gonna be okay if I

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Lacey: It's gonna be more than, okay,

Sarah, you're gonna have a lovely time.

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You're gonna have what you need, you know?

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It's good.

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Sara: So I made the Valentine's scones

If anybody follows me on threads I made

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Valentine's scones and my dad was a

little jealous because he hasn't had

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one in a long time And so I was thinking

about freezing one and wrapping it

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and then bringing it down to give to

him 'cause that would be really sweet

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But it's okay if that doesn't happen

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Lacey: sorry, Sarah's dad, if it didn't

happen that I think you'll understand.

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Sara: Yeah Yes Everyone understands

I'm coming from a deficit so

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Lacey: Yeah,

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Sara: I think everyone was nervous

I wasn't gonna physically be able

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to make it so I think as long as

I'm physically there that's good

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Lacey: yeah.

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Good.

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See already good.

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Better bested it there already naturally.

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Sara: Yeah I need to use these

tools that I talk about all the time

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I actually have to use the tools

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Lacey: I don't wanna transition.

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Is that, is that how you've

been using the tool or,

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Sara: Yep

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Lacey: oh, okay.

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Sara: I've been using it and I feel

it's been really helpful And now

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I would love to hear your thoughts

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, Lacey: I use good, better, best

literally every day, when I'm

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thinking about my day and what needs

to get done in my prioritization.

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So I use it kind of as a

prioritization tool, where I say, okay.

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Good.

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What do I need to get done today?

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What absolutely needs to happen?

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For example, our newsletter

needs to go out today.

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That's my good for today.

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If the newsletter gets

done, we have nailed it.

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The day is success.

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Boom.

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And then from there I

add on additional things.

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I would like to get our

taxes started today.

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That might be a best,

let's be honest, but still.

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You know, that's still a good thing.

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So it's, it's still, you know,

still if it doesn't get done,

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it's still a successful day.

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I think especially if you're,

a recovering to do, I know

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Sarah loves a to-do list too.

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I love.

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I love that like crossing

off check mark moment.

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And so if you're a person who also

likes that, this is a way to not feel

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guilty editing down your to-do list.

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'cause the stuff's still there.

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It could still get done, but it's

not a failure if it doesn't get done.

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Sara: It's so funny that you said that

because my to-do list is sitting right

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here and Oh baby Baby is it long But

what's great about this one is it has

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up top top three priorities And you

know what I'm gonna do I'm just gonna

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write what are the three what are the

three that have to get done today That

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would jam me up if they didn't I'm

still learning and growing Oh my gosh

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this is actually uncomfortable for me

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Lacey: I mean, I think I'm just always

used to being a very loud mess, so

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it's not uncomfortable, and I do

always assume you have everything

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together, so you know it is what it is.

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Sara: I've got some opportunity for growth

which is great And honestly being injured

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has really Given me that I don't wanna

say forced because I could go right back

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into my other habits but it's really

given me an opportunity to look at how

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to use our tools which is great because

I'm taking this storytelling class So

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I'm gonna figure out a way to convey all

this to our audience these are the tools

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that I could be using to avoid getting

to this place that I found myself in

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Lacey: Well, and I think, I think

it also points to something else

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that we believe in is we believe

in self-help has always made Sarah

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and I feel a little icky, because

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Sara: wait hold on You say icky I feel

a little bit different about self-help

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Lacey: okay.

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I'm sorry.

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Sara: So you give yours

and then I'll give mine

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Lacey: I think a lot of self-help has

this message that you are broken and

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this one particular thing will fix you.

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And then this puts you into this

mindset that you are a project

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that always needs to be done.

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And I think.

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That's not feasible, like there's

no, there's no like prize,

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there's no end line or finish.

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You're always gonna be, you

know, working on yourself.

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And so I almost just good, better,

best in myself in that second of like,

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oh, if good is, you know, working on

myself a little bit better, is working

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on myself a little bit more Best.

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There really isn't a best.

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I mean, there is a best,

but it's still not done.

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It's still not completed.

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We are not a project to be completed.

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And, because of that, I think having

this mindset and hearing us, you know,

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try to figure stuff out over and over

again is really important because,

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when you have someone who's like a.

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Self-help guru on a stage.

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They're like, you wanna be like me?

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I have reached the pinnacle.

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I am.

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All these things.

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It makes you think that if you

don't get to there, then you failed.

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And that's not, that's not it.

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That's not a thing.

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Sara: I do Yes So a lot of what you said

I resonate with I do wanna just draw

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a couple of differences of what we're

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Lacey: Yeah.

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Sara: table which is good It's good

that we're bringing different points

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of view So first of all let's just say

if you found me in a bookstore you'd

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always find me in the self-help section

I have read I don't even know how many

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self-help books in my life A lot I've

been reading self-help books since I

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was in my teens and I've learned a lot

I call it like the self-help smoothie

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Like I take a little bit from this a

little bit from this and a lot of it is

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also philosophy and mindset So it's not

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Lacey: Yeah.

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Sara: self-help but I agree with you that

there is this unspoken if you do this

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everything will be great and I agree with

you There is no finished project That's

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something that to keep remembering too is

it is an every day what does today look

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like How am I feeling today What is my

goal for today it's not this end goal And

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for me the other thing I really struggled

with self-help and the distinction we're

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drawing with practical hug is that alone

that doing it in a silo I read the book

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I have these great ahas I'm sitting by

myself I'm doing this tool by myself And

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there wasn't that common language with

a lot of other people Sometimes there is

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But I like that we're building practical

hug with the intention of you're not

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doing this alone is my deep seated like

I've always want a little community

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with me everywhere I go so I It is It's

yeah it's scratching all those itches

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which I love having the common language

of the self of the tools self-help What

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we need a different term What's another

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Lacey: Self-improvement, personal growth.

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Sara: Making things less shitty

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Lacey: I am a very future oriented person.

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I, I struggle.

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I'm so fu I have this, I am so future

oriented that when I'm reading books

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or watching something that has a

flashback, I get frustrated because

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I'm like, don't take me backwards.

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Like I am like, okay, we got it.

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We got the message.

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I don't need to hear anymore.

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Let's move forward.

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Sara: I love that our differences

compliment one another

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Lacey: yeah.

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Sara: absolutely cracks me up

beyond belief I love flashbacks

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Lacey: Oh my.

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Sara: the more context the better

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Lacey: I have enough information.

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Move on.

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What's happening?

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Anyway, but because I've always

been so future oriented, I've always

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been focusing on that next thing to

get right, reaching that next goal,

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that next peak, that next thing.

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And as we're talking right now,

I'm realizing, oh, I have been

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creating those artificial end goals.

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And then I get to the end goal

and I'm like, well, now what?

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So if I can.

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I don't wanna say repair,

if I can really look at it.

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I, I actually have, I have

been getting a lot better.

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I still don't like flashbacks by the way.

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I just want that to be very clear.

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This is why I can't do a

second chance romance trope.

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'cause I'm like, yeah, we know you

guys didn't succeed the first time.

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Move along.

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Sara: Noted

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Lacey: Same with friends, still lovers.

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I'm like, yeah, okay.

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You guys have been friends.

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It hasn't happened because

of this, this, and this.

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Got it.

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Move along.

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read a lot of romance

if, if you're new here.

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I have gotten a lot better about being

okay in the present and not focusing

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on getting to a specific future.

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Like, when I was advising students as an

academic advisor, they used to, I would

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talk to 'em about their major, right?

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And they're always worried about.

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Picking the wrong major and I was too.

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but I kind of had this realization and

so this is what I told them of like,

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you are not picking a destination.

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You are picking a pathway.

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And if the path needs

to to move, that's fine.

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As long as you are moving

forward, you are making progress.

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You know, it may wind more than you want

it to, but you're just picking a pathway.

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You're moving forward, you're

doing what you can to reach towards

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a future, not a specific end.

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And, and that, you know, there are

things you can do on the path, right?

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To make you more successful in their case.

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And an internship or a research

opportunity joining this club,

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you're, you're making your path more.

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Get more opportunities, you

know, widen for the future.

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But that doesn't mean that you

need to choose path A or path B.

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There are very rarely splits in your

path that you have to pick one or the

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other, and one is right and one is wrong.

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Sara: I really love this conversation

How it's unfold how it's like how I'm

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seeing this now the tools that we're

doing I hadn't thought about it that way

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Like you were talking about you didn't

the self-help part of if you do this

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you will then be like me at this place

of perfection that's the destination

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Okay If only I do these 10 steps then

I will be like this guru on the stage

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That is where I'm going think what's

great and now I'm just like really seeing

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it is the tools that we are sharing is

today How can you be more comfortable

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today Like it's not about and I didn't

realize that until now It is just how

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you feeling today What do you want to be

more comfortable today right let's look

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at this tool Not as in a there will be a

day where you no longer need these tools

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Lacey: Yeah.

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Sara: and don't think I really

understood that until just now

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That's awesome It's been a monumental

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podcast.

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Lacey: growing, always learning.

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And I will say that is something that I

can always latch onto is gimme something

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to learn, gimme something to, grow.

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Like those are, I love the

experience of learning and so that

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has been something that does make

progress a little easier for me.

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I mean, as Sarah knows, I get

excited about something and it's

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like I will figure everything

out about it and then, you know.

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Switch gears, but.

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Sara: And for me talking about the how

to use these tools and it's the journey

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not the destination which I know that

saying is very cliche but I used to beat

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myself up when I used to read all those

self-help books by myself And I would

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get I'd read them I'd have an aha moment

and then six months later I would a day

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later let's be honest I'd be back in pain

Emotional pain And then I would get a

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reminder about whatever that was and I'd

be like I already read this Why do I have

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to read this again Why am I not doing

this I always felt like no I read it once

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I should know it I should be doing it

I should be embodying it after this one

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reading of this book But like we're saying

here it's just it's doing it over and over

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learning to use it in different ways That

is the distinction Our tool is about tools

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Lacey: But I think the other part of it

is it's very easy when you get into those

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spaces that you stay stagnant, right?

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So we're not saying use the tools

to just, you know, put a bandaid

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on it or that kind of stuff.

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Yes, it might put a bandaid on it,

but it's also this element of forward.

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Momentum just doing something,

anything to not feel stuck.

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'cause not everyone is like

me who's like, excuse me, what

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do you mean there's a problem?

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I'm gonna fix a problem.

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Why would we sit here in the problem?

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And I may or may not live

with people like that.

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And it's really changed my

mindset of like, oh, not

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everyone's like there's a problem.

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I'm gonna fix it and then move along.

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And so this this element of.

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Still forward momentum while, you

know, taking what you need in the

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moment, that's what it's all about.

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Sara: Which is why I love the Joyful

Support Tool because I was easily stuck

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in the story and the discomfort What I

love what I say to people and what I love

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about the Joyful Support tool is it gives

you momentum right you don't get stuck

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in the uncomfortable story You don't get

overwhelmed by just trying to do toxic

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positivity to will yourself someplace

It's like a little bit of story a little

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bit of joy and then the step is your

momentum So it's acknowledge movement

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And same with good better best cause if

best feels undoable in this moment then

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You might feel stuck to do anything.

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But if you can find the better the

good or the better version that might

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give you momentum and who knows If

you start with the good you might

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get momentum to check some off The

better or not it doesn't matter We

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appreciate you We adore you either way

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Lacey: Good is done.

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Way to go.

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Did I make that like a little audio clip

that we just start sticking in places.

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Good is done.

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Way to go.

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Sara: that's a button that you get

to hit in your house when you do

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something it's just yep I microwaved

the chicken nuggets and the peas and

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you hit the button Good enough is done

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Lacey: I heard, protein.

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I heard a carb, I heard

some vegetables in there.

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That's a balanced meal.

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Sara: I think the bottom line is

stick with us people gonna cheer you

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Lacey: I.

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Sara: No matter what If you're

listening to this that means

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you're breathing Good job Breathing

Good job Lungs You're awesome

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Lacey: Absolutely.

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Sara: You pushed play That's great

you're killing it You're nailing it

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Lacey: Absolutely.

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Sara: Yeah Go for

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Lacey: seeing my face is

just a joy in, in general.

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You're welcome.

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Sara: You are what was it A res

a renaissance Perfect Renaissance

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Lacey: yes.

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Sara: What was the thing

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Lacey: Renaissance Masters

would be clamoring to, paint me.

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We should, wrap it up

with our gratitude today.

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Do you wanna go first?

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Sara: Curling I am thankful for Olympic

curling It has kept me company on the

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couch I have learned about curling

and let me tell you people it is not

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to be underestimated It is chess with

strategy with the science and physics

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of understanding ice and friction

coefficients And it is when there's a

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team when you've got two or four people

it is about teamwork and communication

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Curling might be the ultimate sport just

most importantly I'm thankful for curling

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for keeping me company on the couch

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Lacey: Do you have opinions about

the curling scandal and the,

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the finger touch on the stone?

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Sara: I do not know about the curling

scandal but I saw there was a podcast

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in my queue that alluded to something

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Lacey: Okay.

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I won't spoil it for you then.

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Okay, this is very specific.

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I am thankful and grateful for

the iPad's ability to kind of

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shut your kids' stuff down.

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To make them do stuff.

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we got to a place this weekend

where mom had her mom, me had

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her, this house is a mess.

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It's gross.

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I don't like being here

and I'm here all the time.

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So you guys need to figure this out.

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No screens until things get done.

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and then I, I mean, I tried to make

it fun and I like said, okay, if you

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clean this room, you've unlocked this.

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If you've cleaned this

room, you've unlocked this.

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And.

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Did it work?

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Yes.

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Was it torture for everyone?

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Absolutely.

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It was awful, but it got done.

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My house feels better.

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And now I get to point to you.

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Remember how awful that

one day was, Isaac?

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Multiple times.

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This is the worst day ever.

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And I'm like, bro, look at your life.

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Look at your choices.

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You're, you're the one stuffing

wrappers from your snacks underneath

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the family room, coffee table.

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I'm not doing that.

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You are.

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So, yeah, you made this day.

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I'm sorry, I'm just, I'm just

the one saying that today's,

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the day it was coming.

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but because I was able to like turn the

iPads on and off remotely, it was a very

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powerful tool and I'm thankful for it.

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Sara: Beautiful

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Lacey: Mm-hmm.

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Sara: it and iPads

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Lacey: thank you Sarah.

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Sara: Thank you Lacey