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The Blueprint for Your Next Era: Unlocking Sovereignty with Tina LeAnn

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Tina LeAnn Erdmann (Sovereign Soul)

Trigger Warning: This episode touches on early‑childhood trauma, coping mechanisms, addiction cultures, and transformation. If you’re vulnerable right now, please consider listening with support or pausing if you need.

Gritty, no‑BS description:

Tina LeAnn didn’t grow up in a “perfect childhood”—she lived one driven by pain‑killers, alcohol, chaos, and survival modes. She learned to become invisible—quiet, small, safe. But that little girl carried her strategies into adulthood, feeling stuck, unseen and “wrong”. Until she discovered Human Design, saw the blueprint of who she came here to be, and layered in Gene Keys + NLP to blow the old script wide open. In this episode, we talk about nervous systems, early programming, how your brain deletes, distorts, generalizes (Yep—science meets soul). We talk about the “not broken” truth. And we discuss how sovereignty isn’t some lofty idea—it’s a nervous‑system, story, and energetic alignment. If you’ve ever felt like you didn’t belong, misunderstood, or like life happened to you—this is the call to choose your design, drop the baggage, and lean into your next era. (Trigger‑warning about trauma & addiction culture)

💥 What We Talk About:

• Understanding the early brain: birth to age 7, brain waves, large amounts of unconscious programming. (E.g., Tina: “Our unconscious mind is picking up … we’re consciously aware of 126 bits out of 2 billion.”)
• How coping/strategies from chaotic homes become blocking patterns later.
• What is Human Design? What are the Gene Keys? How do they differ/mesh? Tina breaks it down (e.g., “Human Design = intellectual, Gene Keys = softer, consciousness side”).
• How NLP rewrites narrative fast—without needing to relive the trauma. “How long did it take you to get over that anger? A split second once you chose it was done.”
• The concept of sovereignty: “You’re not broken. There’s just some fine‑tuning that needs to be done.”
• Integration of modalities + story + nervous system + purpose—why that matters.
• The Freedom Frequency Framework: Tina’s emerging model to make this work accessible.

Invitation: Do you feel invisible? Are you tired of the loops? What would you reclaim if you knew you weren’t broken?

Bio

Tina LeAnn, founder of The Sovereign Soul, NLP Master Practitioner & Trainer, Human Design & Gene Keys expert, transformational coach, and host of The Sovereign Soul Podcast. Tina’s work sits at the intersection of deep energetics and practical structure. 

Her approach blends NLP and MER® emotional release techniques with Human Design and Gene Keys to release subconscious imprints and emotional residue—without asking clients to re-traumatize or rehash the past. 

She’s known for helping women rebuild unshakable self-trust, shift identity at the root, and translate clarity into action across relationships, money, and purpose. 

A Salt Lake City transplant and lifelong seeker, Tina brings real-world grit and lived experience to every room she leads.

Links & Socials

 🔗 How to Connect with Tina:

Website: the sovereignsoul.co The Sovereign Soul+1

Free Human Design chart: available via the site. Apple Podcasts+1

LinkedIn: Tina LeAnn Erdmann LinkedIn

Instagram / Facebook: @iamtinaleann Facebook

  📞 If You’re in Crisis:

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: Hello there.

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Hello.

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So good to be back.

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I'm Elaine Lindsay.

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This is suicide, Zen forgiveness.

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And today I'm with my guest.

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This is Tina.

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LeAnn Erdman, thank you so

much for joining me, Tina.

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We're going to let the audience

learn about you from you.

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I am quite fascinated by what you

do, and we'll get into that shortly.

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But why don't you give them

a little rundown on who you

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are and what brings you to us.

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Tina LeAnn: Thank you for having me today.

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Elaine.

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So I am Tina LeAnn and I'm

owner of the Sovereign Soul.

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And so I am basically, I'm a

coach and I use human design.

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I use a few different modalities,

so I use human design, gene keys and

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NLP when I'm working with my clients.

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NLP is neurolinguistic programming.

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And so basically what that is neuro,

this is just means like how we take

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in the world and linguistic is how

we make sense of what we take in.

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And then the programming is, of course,

you know what it is, it's our programming

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and it's what we do with all this

information and sometimes the programming.

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With the program, we create patterns and

behaviors and automatic programs, right?

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And sometimes those programs are helpful

and sometimes they're not based on,

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and, but they think they're helpful,

which is the interesting part, right?

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And so none of it is wrong, good.

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Or it's not bad, it's not wrong.

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So with NLP, it basically teaches

you how to use the language of your

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mind to get the results you want.

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So if you think about it like language is

how we got to where we are, and so we can

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use language to rewind that and recode

that and get to where we want to be.

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: Awesome.

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Awesome.

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Okay.

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That

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is very cool.

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I am I'm trying to figure out where

I wanna start 'cause everything

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you do completely interests me.

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Have a bit of a background in NLP.

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I have a very dear friend who has

been working with Human Design

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for, I don't, about six years now.

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And it's the last one.

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I don't think I know too much about

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Tina LeAnn: Gene Keys

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So Richard Rudd is the man who who.

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How do I wanna de designed created

channeled, created jenky, and

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he worked Rah Uru, who is the

man who channeled human design.

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Yeah.

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And then Richard Rudd worked

with RAH for a while, and then

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Richard went off on his own.

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So he created what's called the

gene keys, and there are 64 codons

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that 64 gene keys that align with

the 64 gates in human design.

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And so the distinguishing how, this

is my opinion, only my opinion and

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how I distinguish the two or how

I tie the two together is raw and

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human design is the intellectual.

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The intellectual part of it and.

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Richard Rudd with the Jean

Keys is more the softer side.

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He brings in the consciousness.

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Ah, okay.

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Oh yeah.

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So that's not to say like human design,

bridges, science and spirituality.

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Yeah.

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It seems more black and white,

where the gene keys, it,

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there's a real softness to it.

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He really brings in the consciousness

and it's a beautiful pairing together.

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Ah, more fluid

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: would you say?

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Yeah.

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Tina LeAnn: Yeah.

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Yep.

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It gives the person and so raw when

he created, or when he channeled human

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design, he channeled it such that

we could see where we are in life.

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And Richard Rudd took it a

step further and is okay.

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Here's where you are.

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You can see where you are, you

can see where your potential

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is through the human design.

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And then the gene keys just

brings it alt, it brings a forward

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momentum to it, if you will.

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Like forward, ah, moving language.

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Okay.

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Oh wow.

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna:

Oh, that is interesting.

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I think I'm a manifester.

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Is that right?

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Ah, so am I.

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Yeah.

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So in terms of what we would

normally talk about here is suicide

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loss, ideation, mental health,

and all things to do with that.

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I think this is a really good and

important set of topics because

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it is about, and I hopefully

I'll put this correctly, but

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it can be about recalibrating.

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Yourself.

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And that can certainly be very helpful.

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Tina LeAnn: Yes, it can.

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I just did a talk at the Healing

Utah Success Summit for the

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addiction recovering community.

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: Ah,

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Tina LeAnn: yeah.

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And I talked a lot about.

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Neuroscience and early programming and

strategies and such, and I love, and

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we can, it was mostly for the recovery

community, but we also invited mental

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health and it's for everybody, right?

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It's for us, all of us.

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All of us could learn when

we are learning this stuff.

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It's so useful to everybody

and anybody, right?

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And.

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The thing that I like to really bring

forward is that you are not broken.

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No.

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None of us are broken, and there's

nothing wrong with any of us.

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It's just our programming.

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It's our early childhood programming

and the way we were coded when we

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were younger and because, and once.

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So when we were younger, before, or from

birth to the age of seven, and I'm sure

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you've maybe your listeners or you have

heard this many times with the, your

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guests that have been on our before.

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But from birth to seven, we're in like

a theta brainwave state, and we're in

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a hip hypnotic learning state, and so

we're picking up everything around us.

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Our unconscious mind is picking up.

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I've heard different numbers,

like 400 billion bits, 2 billion

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bits of information per second.

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Let's just, who cares what the number is?

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It's a lot.

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A lot, right?

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Our unconscious mind is

picking up everything.

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Around us in our environment,

things that we're not even aware of.

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And then it comes through our

internal representation system,

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our brain and information gets

deleted, distorted, and generalized.

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And we're consciously aware of 126 bits

out of that 2 billion, which is crazy.

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: Oh my

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Tina LeAnn: God.

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And so we're bringing

in so much information.

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And so from birth to seven, your

prefrontal cortex isn't yet developed.

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And so what we're, we take in everything

as truth, and in that timeframe,

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you're in your family environment

and the family members, each family

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member is doing the best they can

with what they know at the time.

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And each one of us

copes in different ways.

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And so we're learning how to cope

in an environment that's coping.

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And so we're creating, yeah.

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And so we're, we create strategies that.

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That we've, that are keeping us safe.

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And then as we're growing up,

there's more, there's a more, we're

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introduced to more environments, right?

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Through school and work and college

or life through, we're introduced

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to more environments and more people

and more messaging throughout life.

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And sometimes those strategies

get stronger and stronger.

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Until they're no longer helpful for us.

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And sometimes then at some point, those

strategies, some of these strategies,

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they block us from moving forward and

they block us internally in ways that

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can make us feel like there's something

wrong with us when there's not.

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And so that's where some of

these modalities can come in

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and be really useful because.

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When you understand that it's biology,

that you're not broken, there is

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absolutely nothing wrong with you at all.

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It's simply biology.

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And then once you have an

understanding of how the biology

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works and how it functions, then you

can, we can work with that, right?

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We can work with that and we can

use these different modalities,

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whichever one resonates for you.

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'cause each one of us is unique

and different modalities are gonna

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resonate for different people.

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And so when then we can use these

modalities to really dive in deep within

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ourselves and learn about ourselves.

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And the more we learn about

ourselves, the more we heal.

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And the more we heal, the more

we can help others and serve.

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna:

That was so well put.

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Absolutely.

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I know I grew up in, in what

was considered a very chaotic

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life when I was very young.

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One of our family members was very ill.

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And there were, there was five hours

apart because my father was in the

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Air Force and we were transferred.

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So there was a lot of phones ringing

and everything had to be dropped,

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and we had to drive immediately.

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So everyone was always on tenter

hooks waiting for that phone to ring.

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It does it does change how everyone

interacts and I can even say at this.

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Late age in life.

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If the phone rings after seven o'clock

at night, my heart almost stops.

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Tina LeAnn: Yeah.

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And isn't that amazing too?

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How I'm always surprised, but at this

point I feel like I shouldn't be, but

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I still am surprised at how long some

of this stuff lives in your body.

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Yeah.

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It's so crazy.

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It's something that happened two years

ago, or when you're two years old.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Tina LeAnn: Could be in your body when

you're 60 or 70 until you're aware of it.

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And you can use the modality to release,

to release and neutralize that energy.

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But it's so crazy.

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Yeah, I too, I also grew up

in a inconsistent household.

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My.

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My mom got hooked on painkillers after

a back injury, and my dad was in the

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Vietnam War and he coped with alcohol

and both of them, my mother specifically

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had a very tumultuous childhood.

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And neither one of they got

together when they were young.

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They had, my mom was 21 when

she had me, and that's so young,

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when I think about that now.

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And they didn't have.

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The resources that we have now, right?

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And so they didn't know what they

didn't know, and they were doing the

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best they could with what they had.

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But in that environment

it was pretty chaotic.

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And it was pretty crazy.

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And so I learned, some coping mechanisms

that I learned and some strategies

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that I took on was to be invisible

and to keep, to be quiet and suppress

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myself and to try to be invisible.

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So I didn't make any waves in

the house and set anybody off.

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And when.

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As I grew into early adulthood, even

through school, it didn't serve me,

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but I didn't know any, at that time.

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I didn't know any better.

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And then into early adulthood,

I realized wait is what?

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This, I'm not acting, I'm not behaving.

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These people are behaving.

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Why do they just let themselves be seen

and heard and they're just goofy or they

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say whatever they want and I'm over here

hiding, and it's, it was quite a journey

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for me to unravel all of that and.

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It was yeah, there was some painful

moments involved in that too, in

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my childhood and and stepping a

away from that and unwinding that.

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It was quite a process.

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And I didn't give up, which

is good, grateful for that.

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But, sometimes it wasn't easy yeah.

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And

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: was it

your own childhood that led you

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to seek out NLP and NLPI assume

is the first modality you found?

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Tina LeAnn: Actually, I

found human design first.

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Oh wow.

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I just found NLP recently last year.

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I should take, I take that back.

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I knew of NLP, I just started training,

getting certified as a practitioner.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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Just recently, but yeah,

it, yes, my childhood.

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To answer your question, yes,

it was definitely my childhood.

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I just, as I grew, I didn't know

anything, when I was little, obviously

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we don't know what we don't know.

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So I would say like middle school, high

school timeframe, when you start spending

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the night over at friends' houses.

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And I started, I was around

different families and I realized

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my family doesn't act like this.

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Like your mom brings popcorn to the

living room and turns the movie on for us.

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Like things.

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Things like that.

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And I was just, perplexed about

these things, and and then it

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was actually a psychology class

in high school that really like

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trick flipped the switch for me.

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If you were opened up a new world

to me when I learned about these.

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Illnesses that we label, right?

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And then I started learning about

these different things and started

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diving into do I have this?

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Does my mom have this?

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Does my, just not, I wasn't therapizing

anybody, I wasn't doing any of that.

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I was just like taking in the information

and then thinking to myself like, wow.

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Now this is making some sense here.

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Yeah.

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There is something going on here

that's a little deeper than, my parents

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aren't purposely trying to hurt me.

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There's something else happening here.

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And I'm a very curious person by nature.

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I was one of the, I was the little kid

who sat at the bottom of the stairs by

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the bookshelf reading the encyclopedias.

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Yeah, a total nerd.

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So just a curious person by nature.

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And so that psychology class actually

opened up a new world for me.

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And then I just, I kinda, I kept

going, just kept researching

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and reading about things.

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Back then we didn't have the internet

and so I would spend some time at the

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library and read books and magazines,

and I got some help myself too.

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I went to therapy for a short period

of time and it was really helpful.

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It was so helpful to talk to

somebody with, who was outside

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of my friend and family network.

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It really was helpful to do that.

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And then and then I moved to

Colorado in my mid twenties.

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And I, once I didn't do this for this

reason, but once I got outside of that,

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my environment, I could really see

things from a different perspective.

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Of course.

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And I was just moving to Colorado

because I wanted to snowboard

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and little did I know, right?

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And little did I know it was gonna

be this transformational experience.

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Yeah, it was amazing.

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So that opened up another

whole world for me, right?

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Like it, I got outside of

this drinking culture and.

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All the, with the alcohol is a, a

big thing in Wisconsin and it's ah,

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yeah, and it's a, and it's, that's a

tough one to call out on people too,

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because it's so socially acceptable.

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: Yeah.

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Tina LeAnn: Yeah.

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And so once.

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I got myself out of that environment

and had a chance to really look

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at things from a bird's eye view.

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That shifted a lot inside of me.

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And so that really started me on this

trajectory to just, I just kept one thing

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at a time, just following the breadcrumbs.

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If a book came across my path,

I would read it, or a person, I

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would listen to what they said.

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And one thing, I didn't really have a

mentor or coach or anything like that.

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I was just aware.

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Just aware of these things and when I

read something or heard something that

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somebody said, I would sit with it for

a minute and look at myself and say,

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where in myself can I make this shift?

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Ah, yeah.

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So I made it, I took

on the responsibility.

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To shift within me.

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Whatever I, what I, whatever I could.

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And can I still do that?

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And so then one thing led to another,

and then I came upon human design.

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And that really, I love human design.

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Once I, 'cause it's, the way

that I describe it is it's a

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blueprint of your higher self.

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It's the blueprint of your, it's

your energetic blueprint of.

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Who you are without the baggage, without

the limiting beliefs and the the things

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that we're holding in our bodies.

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It's who you, it's who

you came here to be.

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And so that's what I, it's like a map.

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It's a map to your higher self.

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And so I started playing with

that and I'm a scientist in, in.

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At heart, right?

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And so when I do these things,

I look at it as an experiment.

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It makes it a lot more fun

and a lot easier, right?

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Yeah.

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And so I just thought, I'm just gonna

experiment with this and see how, what

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this unravels, and so I had fun diving

into learning about my purpose and my

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gifts and my energetic blueprint and

just unwinding even more through that.

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In a fun way.

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And then I came a across NLP,

which I absolutely love because

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the main reason why I love NLP is

and I use it with my clients and

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I don't need to hear the story.

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They don't need to repeat the story to me

for the work to, for the work to happen.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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We, they can share the story if

they want, but they don't have to.

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And they can share a part of the

story and we can get enough to where

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we ha we have something that we can

release through NLP and so we don't

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need to reintroduce the trauma.

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Wow.

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Which is why I just absolutely

love it and I've experienced

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deep transformation myself.

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With NLP using NLP on myself

and, working with a practitioner.

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And then I've also, I've just,

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yeah, so I've seen just

incredible results.

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Incredible.

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I don't even know how to explain it.

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Just like aha moments, just huge

breakthroughs with my clients in minutes.

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Wow.

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And that's the other thing with NLP is

that it's a really quick 'cause if you

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think about, so my instructor, he asked us

a question on the first day of training.

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He asked us a question and he said, how

many of you have been angry with someone?

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And we raised our hands.

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And how many of you been

angry with someone for a year?

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How many, five years, 10 years?

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And then he said, and how long

did it take you to get over that?

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Did it take 10 years?

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Did it take five years or

did it take a split second?

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And I just sat there for a minute.

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I was like, it took a split second.

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Once you make the choice that it's done.

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He said, so it took you 10 years to get to

the place where you could make the choice.

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And I was like, oh my gosh.

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And he said, so this is what NLP does.

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It's like you're just, it's as quick

as making a choice because we're

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talking to the unconscious and so we

don't need to take months or years,

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to make some of these big changes.

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So that's it.

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I'm so passionate about it.

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I could talk about it all

day, but that's, I love NLP.

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: It makes

so much sense to get rid of stuff.

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I like things to go away quickly.

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Tina LeAnn: With no pain, right?

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: Yeah.

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Because they didn't for a very long time.

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It's funny when, in, in talking to

different people, in doing this show

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for as long as I have I would never

have said before about a year and a half

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ago, it never would've occurred to me

to tell you my childhood was chaotic.

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I had an idyllic childhood.

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I adored my mom and dad.

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I came to this country with my mother,

my father, my grandmother, and my

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aunt because family was more important

to my parents than their belongings.

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That was the option, and it was just

like, like something out of candy land.

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Everything was wonderful.

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But when this person started digging

into something I had said about my dad

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and how I was his navigator, didn't

matter if I was three in the morning,

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you could wake me up and I'd be a

happy camper and I would navigate,

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and then the person said, oh my God,

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that's a lot of chaos to live through.

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I thought, what?

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And I left our interview and suddenly

thought, oh my God, he is right.

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That was a lot of chaos,

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To go through.

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And the minute I really examined it,

by the end of the next week it was

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cleared and done and out of the way.

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'cause I finally had looked at it.

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Yeah.

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But sometimes.

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I guess we, we need people like you

that have NLP and human design and

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all that because there are things that

we haven't confronted because we've

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taken in different programming and told

ourselves the stories that we needed to

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swallow in order to, come out the other

side, I guess is the way to put it.

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Tina LeAnn: Yeah, that's true.

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And yes, and like human design in

particular really it well and I'll p

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too helps you change the narrative.

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Just as you said, it's the stories

that, it's the stories that.

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It's the words we wrap around

things that create the emotion.

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That create the behavior.

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Yeah.

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And yeah, so if we can write a new

story, if we can edit the story to

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make a better story, we can really

create anything we want in life.

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As long as we keep taking action,

we have to keep taking action.

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And yeah, just like what you said,

once there's awareness, something just

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energetically pops right from there.

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Just having that awareness will shift

everything, and then as you work through

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that, it releases even more and more.

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And then you really, you can

really really start to open

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yourself up to new possibilities.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's really interesting that the

timing is great for you to talk about.

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To me it's that co-mingling of NLP

and Human design and the, what is it?

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The gen keys as well.

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So let's talk a little bit

about the gen keys and where

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does that fit in this puzzle?

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Tina LeAnn: Yeah, so well, in

human design there are nine

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centers, 36 channels, and 64 gates.

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And so the six, the gifts, I always say

the gifts are in the gates, and so we can

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look at the gates are energetic, exit and

entry points at either end of the channel.

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That connect to the centers.

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And the centers are, they fall in

alignment with the Hindu chakra system.

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So the head, the Ajna throat and on.

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Yeah.

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And then gene keys.

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There are 64 coons, 64 gene keys that

line up with the 64 gates in human design.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And so once we we can look at.

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We can look at.

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And then your gene keys, there's a

pearl sequence in there and it goes,

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it's they're so similar 'cause you

can find out a lot about your purpose

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and what is the big thing that's

holding you back, like the big block

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that could be holding you back.

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And once you know that, that's a

wonderful thing to know, right?

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Yeah.

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And especially.

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If it's, 'cause it's usually there's so

much wrapped around it, like genetics and

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your there's so much wrapped around it.

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So once you know that core wound

and that one thing that could be

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holding you back, then you can have,

you have awareness around that.

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You can start to unwind that and you

can then step into your full poten

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full potential into your purpose.

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How whatever words, resonate with.

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With you in that respect.

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But yeah, it's beautiful.

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It's just, it's so helpful,

it's a deeper awareness.

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And it helps you.

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We have awarenesses throughout our

day just with like you, with, your

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guests and the people that we talk to

and interactions even with strangers.

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Or we'll hear something maybe in a

podcast or we'll, come across something

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on social media, A meme on social media.

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Yeah.

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We can have great awareness

even through that.

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And then with the human

design and the gene keys.

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It's a mirror.

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It's you're looking at

like your blueprint.

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Yeah.

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And so it brings more awareness

around more things at deeper levels.

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And then it has with both of those,

there's the shadow side and then.

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The full potential of it.

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So we can look like on, on a spectrum.

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Then, where are you for each one of

these gates centers and channels?

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Are you more on the shadow

side, unhealthy or unbalanced,

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or more on the balanced side?

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And then if you're toward the

unbalanced, we can dive into that

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and then we can use NLP or people.

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And then people, sometimes they'll

just come to me for a reading and then.

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We can discover where they are more

on the unbalanced side and then

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they might like reiki or some other

modality to use to unwind that

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energy, so then they can go use the

modalities that they like with focus.

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: Ah, okay.

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Okay.

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So it can be used to shine a

light on what needs to be managed.

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Tina LeAnn: Yes.

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Yep.

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: Yeah.

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Tina LeAnn: Yeah.

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And then again, it brings in the process

of all of this, the thing that I like most

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about it and what I saw happening within

me over the years of working with these

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modalities and what I see in my clients.

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Is it immediately, it gives you a

permission slip to be who you are,

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to be more of who you are, but

it also gives you a really deep

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understanding that you're not broken.

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: Yeah.

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Tina LeAnn: Yeah.

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There's just some fine

tuning that needs to be done.

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You need an oil change, you need some gas,

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: you want your

Porsche or your Ferrari to run well,

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you, you need to keep up the maintenance.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Not that I drive either of those cars.

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And not for the reason you would think.

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Okay.

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This is where my bent

sense of humor comes in.

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I don't have knees or cartilage,

so I can't get down far

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enough to get into a Ferrari

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Tina LeAnn: yeah, they're

very low to the ground.

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That is for sure.

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They're,

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yeah.

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: What

would you say is, where do you see

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you taking these three modalities?

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Do you see them going along as

they are or do you see it morphing

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into something that's uniquely you?

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Tina LeAnn: I do.

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I see it.

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It, there's something already happening.

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I call it the freedom frequency framework.

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And so it's already happening.

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I'm not quite to the final thing yet but

I'm getting there because I do believe,

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and I, as I'm working through this,

there is a beautiful way to merge

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all of this stuff and simplify it.

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So more people can have access

to it and understand it easier.

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: It's funny

because in my day-to-day work, before

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I, I really got into the podcast,

I'm a digital integration specialist.

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Speaker 4: So I

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: did

integration and optimization

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of all your digital properties.

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And for me, the word.

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That sums up everything for

me is integration, is making

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sure things are congruent.

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And it's really funny because I found over

the years I've been in the area for more

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than 20 years, over the years, I realized

that putting together that integration

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and that making sure everything meshes.

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It spills over into life.

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It is like the ultimate in, no matter what

you're talking about, be it spirituality

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or religion or math or anything, it

is about that into integration and

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making things mesh together well.

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And that's why I asked the question.

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Tina LeAnn: Yeah.

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I love that for, so yeah,

for so many reasons.

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Just as you were talking, I was, yeah,

I can see why you asked that question

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to integrate and make that congruent.

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And also I think.

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I often reflect on myself and

question, are you in congruence?

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Is this coming from a place of

congruence, from an integrated, are you

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coming from a place of integration and

wholeness and congruence with coherence?

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Yeah.

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Not ego or anything like that, but making

sure it's coming from a deep place.

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Yeah.

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So I love that.

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I love that you did, you had that

experience with digital systems.

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Yeah.

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And we can bring that right

into the human, we can bring

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that into spirituality.

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Yeah.

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I love that.

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It's fascinating

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna:

to me what you do.

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Okay.

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All of those things.

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Because partly because I'm very impatient.

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Same manifester thing.

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Yeah.

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It's a manifester thing.

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And for, I, I don't know a better way

to put it, but for so many years, I

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would say I was asleep at the wheel.

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Circumstances.

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Circumstances basically had

me retreating to 12 years old.

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So I didn't have to deal

with what was happening and.

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That a is no way to live, but

it is like suddenly waking up.

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I feel like sleeping beauty after 45

years, you suddenly wake up and it's

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oh my heavens we have to get back.

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We back on track and get on with purpose.

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Tina LeAnn: Yeah, for sure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What was the catalyst that woke you up?

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: It was a

couple of things in the past two years.

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One was understanding the

chaos of my childhood.

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And understanding I worked in a mental

institution when I was a teenager.

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I volunteered from the

time I was 12 years of age.

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Tina LeAnn: Oh wow.

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna:

I do not recommend that.

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And it, things are not what they were

at the end of the sixties, but, it's

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very different now, and it tends to

color what so by the time I was 16 and

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I lost my friend, it was it made it

very difficult for me to go forward

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and there was much incongruence

in what was happening inside me.

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So it's very interesting, it's

very interesting to the universe

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will, I believe put things in your

path that you can choose to open

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up and look at or you can walk by.

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Tina LeAnn: Yeah.

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: And

when you approach the universe

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with curiosity and when you're

always looking to learn something.

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It's amazing what they

do put in front of you.

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It isn't

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Tina LeAnn: it?

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: Yeah.

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So human design has come up so

many times in the past six years.

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It's okay, I get it.

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I get it.

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Tina LeAnn: Yeah.

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Your friend.

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Have your friend give you a reading.

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Yeah.

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's, it is truly fascinating.

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And you do your readings, can you do

your readings virtually as well, right?

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Yes.

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Tina LeAnn: Yep.

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I can.

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I work with a lot of my clients over Zoom.

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So I, I have a, I love, it, thanks

to the internet now we have so

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much reach and we can do so many

more people, it's a lovely thing.

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So yeah, I do a lot of work over Zoom.

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That's

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elaine @TheDarkPollyanna: excellent.

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I think it's wonderful when we do

know our purpose, that we can help

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as many people as we can with the

new technologies that are out there.

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Yeah.

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And I'm a big believer in embracing

technology and making sure you,

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you understand the pros and cons,

but embrace the good bits and

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be aware of what's not so great.

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All of your information is below.

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It will be down below in the show notes.

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We will have links for you

so that you can get in touch.

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You'll notice that her website is

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here,

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The sovereign soul.co,

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which think is really excellent.

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It resonates for me.

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The

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sovereign soul is, I think

that's pretty, pretty incredible.

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Tina, LeAnn, I thank you

so much for being my guest.

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I know our audience is probably fascinated

by what they've heard here today, and

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you can contact Tina to find out more

about human design n lp, and Gen keys,

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which I think is really interesting.

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As a matter of fact, I think I'll take.

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I'll take myself up on that as well.

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Thank you so much for being here.

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Thank you.

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To my audience.

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I'm Elaine Lindsay.

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