Dale
Christ's resurrection opened the door for our relationship with the Father. This is where more and more people get hung up. You have people who think that God transferred His, who He was to Jesus Christ; and now that Jesus Christ is leading everything. That's so far from the truth, it's the opposite. Because when Christ's resurrection was to the right hand of the Father, and what is He doing there? He's making intercession for us day and night.
Debbie
If He's making intercession for us, what are they doing?
Dale
It's time for us to say, Yes, Lord, the work of Your cross in my heart is complete. We're walking in the fulfillment of what Christ was put on the earth for - and that was to be a pattern son, that we walk in His footsteps. And that includes joining Him at the right hand of the Father, in making intercession. And what are we praying for? We're praying for all creation. We're standing with the Father as co-creators.
Debbie
You know, it's interesting to think about how much the church still comes up to the cross, and that's where they stay. Everything is for salvation. But it doesn't take you much farther. It doesn't take you beyond that, in the sense that you know, what's beyond the cross. It's a walk with God. It's our relationship with the Lord. It's developing a personal relationship, not just one that we agree that Christ is the Lord. One where we know who we are. We know His love for us, and we know our Father, and we know His voice , and we know His leading, and we're doing that. I was thinking about the two on the way to Emmaus after Christ's death, how they didn't recognize him, they were just talking to Him, and sure, telling Him what had happened during the week before, you know, how they didn't have any clue who He was until He broke bread with them; and He sat down with them and ministered to them, then they knew they knew who He was. And we're coming into that day of learning to know who He is, Learning to know who the Father is, and how to relate to Him. Beyond the cross, beyond the initial thing of salvation, we're coming into a relationship, that ministering the life and the love of the Lord, and the release, of all creation.
Ron
Even if you look at the life of Christ, He would say, the Father's doing His work, and I'm doing what I see him doing right. So Christ was always going about doing the work of the Father that was set before Him. What you're saying, really makes so much sense. Because if you stop at the cross, it's always about salvation. But you never get going into what the, the work of the Father is. And the work of the Father is trying to bring forth Christ's kingdom on this earth. You know, so there's so many things that the Father wants you engaged in. But if you keep going around that mountain of salvation, you never engage with the Father, you never engage in the works that you were destined to do before the foundation of the the earth, you miss all that you never get off square one. And I think that's a shame because there's so much we're to enter into and mature, and to know the Father. If Christ opened the door, His whole purpose was to open the door to a relationship with the Father. Was never stopped, it was never to stop with Him, in fact, is very prayer that He taught his disciples. The phrase, the first thing he said, was Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name, Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done. When we began this conversation. We said, well, who's in charge, basically? Well, Christ is not in charge. The Father is in charge.
Debbie
And Christ how we said that too. I don't do anything except I see what the Father is doing. I do nothing of Myself. It's not Me doing this. It's the father's working through Me. Can't you sense His crying, His longing, His heart just crying out. "Come on, guys get past that point." It's already been done. It was done for you. Now move into My presence.
Ron
That very Scripture, the very Scripture talks about; did Christ so loved the world that He sent Himself into the world? No, the Father so loved the world that He sent Christ into the world.
Dale
His only begotten Son.
Ron
That's right. His only begotten Son. So it doesn't put Christ down. We're not saying that you know, Christ wasn't wonderful. And He is He is, there's no doubt about it. But we don't stop at the door. He was the door, you don't stop at the door, you walk through the door. I'm just believing that, that people are going to pick up on this, it get back in the scriptures and read this stuff.
Debbie
He loves us so much. He has so much for us to get and to become, and to create, He wants us to be creators with him. You know, He doesn't want just little children, thankful for his love and His cross.
Ed
When Christ was on the cross, He said, It is finished. And when He gave up the spirit, that was the end, that was our salvation. And what did God do right then and there He rent the veil, thus opening up to the kingdom of God, with the Father. That was the whole thing is to get us back to the Father, where we can commune with the Father, where we can reach in and talk with Him and walk with Him. That was the whole thing that Christ did salvation ended on that cross. It was done, it was finished. And now we have to walk with God, and commune with God. That's, that's all we have to do.
Debbie
That's the purpose of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit wouldn't have come if it just ended with the cross. The Holy Spirit came to reveal the Father to us, you know, reveal who we are, and help us with it.
Dale
There's a several chapters in the book of John, where Christ talks about what He accomplished, on behalf of the Father with us. And you some of that will may come to mind where He talks about Father You gave me these people, these men and I have taught them and I'm giving them back to You. What we're talking about is seeing the things that have been hidden for this day. And that's what we're talking about. We're talking about that launch that you so carefully and beautifully said Deborah, okay. He will he was our pattern son, to deliver us to the Father. Consider yourself delivered.
