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00:00 Hello There, Friends!

00:12 Lunch with Pastor Jason

01:09 Debate Over Restaurant Reviews

03:05 Spurgeon College Closure

04:06 Discussion on Repeated Biblical Stories

09:06 Hezekiah's Prayer and Manasseh's Reign

12:26 Conclusion and Prayer

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to another edition

of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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We'd like to welcome you back to another

edition of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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We would like to welcome

you back to We Welcome You.

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Another welcome to you all.

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Yeah, no.

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Hey man.

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I got to have lunch this past

week with the pastor of Lighthouse

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Church, which is Lighthouse there.

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It's, yeah, run Collective.

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Does is that, did he walk in with

that song playing on the stereo?

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I don't know because I got there

after him, so we ate over at me, Luna

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over in Prosper, which is decent.

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I Luna.

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That's okay.

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Yeah.

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Not my favorite.

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I had the chicken fajita tacos.

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They were decent.

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Yeah.

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Anyways.

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Anyways, pastor Jason Holman from

over there at Lighthouse Church.

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They're just down the

street from where we meet.

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And just a great dude.

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It was super encouraging.

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It was a reminder, man that we are

one of many in our midst and we've

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said this before and it's good to

remind ourselves of this, that we are

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not here to compete against other.

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Churches that are preaching and

proclaiming a biblical gospel.

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And and I'm thankful for that reminder

and that connection point with Jason.

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So be praying for Pastor Jason and

Lighthouse Church as you drive by them

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on Sunday mornings, as you're on their

way to, to worship with us there.

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I think doing good work there

and he's a guy that loves Jesus.

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And so it was fun to, to connect with him.

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And it was good food.

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Contrary to what Pastor Rod

might say about me, Luna.

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It was decent.

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You know what, I think

Lala's tacos are amazing.

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I, I initially did.

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I initially did, and then I don't

know, there's something happened.

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There's, I think it's the seasoning

of their meat is a little bit too

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citrusy for me and it just, okay.

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It was like, okay, this is really good.

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And like the whole cheese tortilla

thing is a fun little like.

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Kitschy thing that they do kitschy.

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But then it was like, okay, I'm offended.

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Yeah, be offended then.

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I thought Lala's was pretty great

and I didn't go for the longest.

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'cause you said they weren't good.

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I didn't actually avoid going.

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It was good initially, Steve.

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No, you're mis you're mistaking me with

Steve Yang, which I understand why,

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we are often mistaken for one another.

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I am pretty confident you gave me the meh.

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No, that was Steve.

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Because I came with

glowing reviews initially.

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No, I remember you were not.

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Glow it I'll, I will go to

the mad on this one man.

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Alright.

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I was initially all about it.

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Alright.

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And Steve went and Steve was

like, meh, go get your spandex.

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We're gonna settle this.

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Like men wrestling

singers Nacho Libre style.

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I just remember, I'm like, oh, okay.

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Pastor Peach said it was okay.

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It was good.

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But okay.

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At the end of the day I thought you, I'm

never gonna go said that on the podcast.

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I'm never gonna go.

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I listened to you say that.

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I didn't say that I was, it was screaming.

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I was yelling red-faced on my radio.

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I didn't say at my radio.

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I didn't say that.

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I can't recall any other

reason why I would not go.

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'cause I continually

recalled what you said.

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And maybe I misunderstood you.

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You never listened to my recommendations.

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That's not, that's true.

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So I feel like that

would've driven you there.

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True.

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That's true.

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You'd have been like, I'm gonna go

because Pastor Gio said it was me.

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I took what you said.

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To heart?

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I don't think so.

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I prayed about it and I thought,

you know what, pastor PJ

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would never lead me a stray.

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I did You consult the

therum and the th I did.

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Did you?

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Uma Thurman told me not to do the

opposite of what you told me to do.

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Okay.

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So I said, okay, Uma, I'm trusting you.

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All right, then you

should have gone earlier.

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Because I would've said,

Hey, you should go.

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'cause it's pretty good.

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I did not hear that.

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Somehow, so Meluna is not bad.

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Meluna is just.

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As the kids would say, it's mid.

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I didn't say it was like life changing.

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Hey, did you hear Spurgeon College?

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Speaking of mid Midwestern, did you

hear Spurgeon College shut down?

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But not that Spurgeon College actually,

the original over in London shutdown.

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That is a sad thing to say.

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It really is.

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I'm disappointed by that.

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Yeah, it was founded in the 18 hundreds.

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It's Legacy Trace all the way back

to its namesake, but it shut down

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because they didn't have the funding or

anything else to support That is so sad.

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Sad.

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It lasted a long time though.

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Yeah.

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And so the connection there, in case

you're wondering where did that come from?

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You mentioned mid, we give Lewis our

student ministries director a hard

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time because he went to Midwestern

Seminary, which literally has mid in.

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Its in its name.

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And the college associate with

Midwestern Seminary here in the

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United States is Spurgeon College.

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To my knowledge, that's still going.

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College knowledge.

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I hope Joe rhyming, but the original

one in London shut down no more.

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That's really sad.

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Yeah.

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This has been an interesting googly time.

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This is the people that like

our googly, they're with us.

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The people that don't are like, what

in the world is happening right now?

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They're probably confused

as to what's happening.

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Probably confused.

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So we should go to the Bible,

which is not confusing.

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Do it.

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At least not always confusing.

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Alright, second Kings chapter 20.

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Pastor Rod, give me a good reason

why, because now this is the third

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time that we're reading about this.

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Or at least the second, I guess

we're gonna get to Chronicles

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and read about it too.

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So the second time that we're reading

about this, it's familiar territory,

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why should I not just skim chapter

20 of Second King, chapter 20.

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God will often repeat himself and

he's perfectly fine doing that.

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In fact, you have four gospels, three of

which are called synoptics, which means

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that they possess largely synonymous

information, and you're gonna see a lot

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of the content overlap with other content.

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But God's okay with doing that.

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And even though you may

struggle to find unique.

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Components in each of these

readings, it is still your obligation

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to tremble before his word.

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Like we were saying yesterday,

we tremble before his word.

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We want to hear what he says and if

he wants us to hear something three

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times, and man, I surely better listen

three times and I better make sure

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that I'm understanding what I think

the author's intention is to convey it.

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These three separate times.

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Now we're looking at three separate books.

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We saw Kings we're gonna see

Chronicles, and we saw it in Isaiah.

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Each of them has a different angle

for the purpose of their writing.

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So even though we're capturing

the same information, the way it's

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being utilized is not the same.

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And it's unfortunate because we're reading

this in a chronological way as opposed to

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how we might normally read it, which is

going to be can Canon a canonical rather.

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And canonically.

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If we were saying, Hey, we're reading

through Isaiah, and here's how this fits

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in the context of Isaiah, that's gonna

be slightly different than how we read it

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in the context of Second Kings, or how we

read it in the context of the Chronicles.

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All of these pieces of the puzzle, all

of these story elements fit within the

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canonical theme that is trying to pursue,

or the purpose for which it's written.

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So all that to say, we're

reading it in a in the wrong way.

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In some ways we're not reading it

the way the author intended, which

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is to be canonically or Yeah, to read

it canonically from start to finish.

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In that book, we're trying to put the

pieces together so that we understand

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large pieces, how the story fits.

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So we're at a disadvantage, but

that would be my short answer.

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Would you add anything to

that and make that better?

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PPJ only.

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Amen.

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I agree with you.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think there's things that we can

glean and we can learn and we can take

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away from it in different context.

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I got another question though.

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Two Kings chapter 20 has, aah.

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Said to Isaiah, what shall be the sign

that the Lord will heal me and that I

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shall go up to the house of the Lord?

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And Isaiah said, thou shall be

the sign to you from the Lord.

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And then he talks about the fact that

the shadow sh should it go forward?

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10 steps or back 10 steps.

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And Hezeki said it's easy to go forward 10

steps, which I probably disagree with him.

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I, yep.

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Nope.

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Don't agree with that.

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So why doesn't it go backward?

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10 steps.

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So my question is this, God.

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Does this for Isaiah and we saw a

little bit of this with Gideon to

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why is this different versus Zacharia

John the Baptist dad, when the

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angel shows up and says, Hey, you're

gonna, your wife's gonna have a son?

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And he's what's gonna

be the sign for that?

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God's you're gonna be mute and not be

able to talk for the, until the baby's

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born because you didn't trust me.

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So why is this different than John the

Baptist and or John the Baptist dad?

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Different in the sense of he

doesn't get chastised for it.

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Is that what you're getting at?

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He's asking for a sign and

God's not gonna punish him.

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He's gonna say, okay, here's the sign.

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I'll give you the sign.

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Or Gideon, why, Gideon says can it be dry?

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Okay, good lord, can it be wet?

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And God does it.

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Versus, Zechariah is like

what's the sign gonna be?

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And God's you're not

gonna be able to talk.

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Yeah, I think I understand

what you're saying.

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So the difference, the way

that God responds to them and.

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Why God responds to these guys

seemingly without any chastisement,

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but to Zachariah with chastisement.

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And I think the answer has to do

with the posture of the heart.

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In short, now, at least as we read it

here, Hezekiah's response to the Lord is.

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Is favorable.

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God likes the way

Hezekiah responds to him.

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And so I think God responds

to him differently.

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God interacts with us individually even

though there are corporate elements.

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He interacts with the

church in a certain way.

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He saves or sanctifies her.

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There are still very real individual

ways that God interacts with his people.

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And so I think this is

a good example of that.

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God is saying, I'm gonna choose to

respond to Hezekiah in this way,

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but I'm gonna choose to respond to

Zachariah in this other way based

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on what each individual needs.

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So I, I think that's part of the answer.

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There might be more.

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That's not coming to mind right

now, but what would you say to that?

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Yeah I think I agree with you in that it's

hard because I don't ever read Zechariah

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as being disrespectful to the Lord.

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And maybe that's just a deficiency

of we don't have the tone.

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We don't know.

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All we have is the text,

but God knows his heart.

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The other thing I was wondering is

here you have the messenger to Hezeki

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being Isaiah who is A man, right?

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He's a prophet of God.

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Yes, that's true.

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He's a man.

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For Zacharia, Zacharia was staring at

the angel and the angel, the archangel

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even possibly dispatched from the

presence of God to his, to him to

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say, Hey, look, this is what's gonna

happen, and Zacharia challenges that.

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And so I wonder if there's a nature of

the quality of the messenger that might.

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Change God's response as well.

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That's an interesting insight, but

probably a little bit of all those things.

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Yeah, and maybe more.

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Maybe more that we don't see

because God does know the heart,

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and that's the challenging part.

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We don't know the heart.

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All we have is what we see in the text,

and we have a lot in the text, but to

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know exactly what the heart is doing at

any given moment in response to God's

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revelation, that's really hard to know.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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One more note here on chapter

20 that I think is super sweet

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in verse five, where God tells.

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Hezekiah through Isaiah.

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I have heard your prayers

and I have seen your tears.

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That's just a sweet.

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Personal connection between the father

and Hezekiah between the God and this man,

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Hezekiah we just talked about yesterday.

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The difference between the God of the

Old Testament and the New Testament.

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Sometimes the God of the Old Testament

is made out to be the sterile God

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who just doesn't care about people.

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And here you see the God of the

Old Testament say I've seen your

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tears and I'm going to do something

about it because I love you.

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And that's really cool.

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He still does that today for us.

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Indeed.

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And I think one of the things that

stands out to me in this is more

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evident as we move to Chapter 21.

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That Manassa, you notice

he's 12 years old.

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Yeah.

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Which tells you exactly

what you should be seeing.

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12 years old man, 12-year-old

Manassa shows up in the

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extension of Hezekiah's life.

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In other words, if Hezeki had not

prayed to have his life extended by 15

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years, Manasa would not have existed.

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Now it's speculating way too much.

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Then we're, what we're qualified

to do to say what would've

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happened if Hezeki didn't do that?

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We know for a fact Manasses would not

have been born 'cause Manassas 12.

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What kind of king would we have

had otherwise, we don't know.

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But just suffice it to say that Hezekiah's

lack of preparation to be ready to

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deny allows for manasses to be born.

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And Manasses is one of the worst

kings to ever hit Judah's ground.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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In fact if you look at chapter 21 the

first nine verses are just his resume

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of all of his evilness and wickedness.

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And it's.

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It's awful.

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There this guy, he burns his

son to one of the false gods.

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He's re reestablishing the high places.

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Even just that breaks your heart

when you read that right away because

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Hezekiah finally came along and took

down the high places when so many times

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we'd read of these other Judean kings.

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They did good, except

they left the high places.

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Hezekiah finally takes him down.

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Manassas I'm rebuilding them again.

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He puts false gods false

idols in the temple.

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His wickedness is.

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Is insanely bad and just he is

a thoroughly evil person here.

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And God indicts him for this and

and says he's going to punish them.

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And that's in verse 13.

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God says, I will stretch over Jerusalem,

the measuring line of Samaria, which

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is what Samaria was destroyed for her

ungodliness and the plum line of the

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house of Ahab, the king of Israel there.

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And I will wipe Jerusalem as

one wipes a dish, wiping it.

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And turning it upside down.

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And I will forsake the remnant

of my heritage and give them

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into the hand of their enemies.

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So God is announcing the impending

end of the Southern kingdom here.

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There is not gonna be any more time.

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There, there is, but there's at the same

time like that the end is gonna come

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and God is saying this is happening.

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A lot of it is in response to manassa,

not only man's actions, but a lot

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of it is in response to Manassa.

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By the way, Manasa is

a difficult character.

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We're gonna find out why in tomorrow's

episode, so make sure that you

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listen to that because the chronicler

includes more about Manasas life

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than the writer of Kings does.

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And it, it paints a different picture.

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So it's gonna be good for us to walk

through that and to think about.

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The idea of forgiveness, repentance,

and also consequence of sin.

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Because a lot of that will come through

in man's life that we don't see here.

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But Manassa dies, Aon, his son reigns

in his place for a couple years.

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Aon is also just a bad dude.

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Evil walked in the sins of his father,

didn't do what was right by the Lord.

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He's only gonna go two years.

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And then we're gonna get Josiah.

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Josiah thankfully is gonna be a

breath of fresh air before things

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get even worse through exile

and the downfall of the kingdom.

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This is the last good king in Josiah.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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Let's pray and then we will

be done with a shorter episode

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of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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You're welcome.

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Let's pray.

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Yeah, we thank you so much for your word

and and just for men that we can look

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to like Hezekiah and as we'll read about

later, Josiah men, that did things well.

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And even yet we see their faults.

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We see their errors.

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We see that they were meant

at best, and even in Hezeki.

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Parenting of his son Manassa.

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It seems like there was a deficiency

there with the direction that

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Manasa went, though we readily

admit we can't save our children.

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We can have a big influence on them.

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And God, we wanna live lives of

full devotion before you and we

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wanna finish wealth and strong.

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We don't want to give up towards

the end of our life and fall away.

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We want to be men that are always

pursuing you and always loving you.

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And so keep us to be

faithful in your word.

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We pray in Jesus' name.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Keep reading your Bibles.

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Tune in again tomorrow for another

edition of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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I'll see you then.

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Bye.

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