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Establishing Your Foundations and Encountering Aliens
Episode 713rd January 2025 • Soul Inspired You • Beth Hewitt
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In Episode 71 Mel and Beth discuss the importance of foundational work for future growth in this episode that covers everything from horses, aliens, philosophy and quantum physics.

  • They reflect on past years, contrasting the 'go-go' energy with a more introspective, preparatory phase.
  • They emphasise the significance of understanding types of resistance and procrastination.
  • Using metaphors like building with Lego and relating personal anecdotes, they explore how foundational experiences influence future success in business and life.
  • They also touch upon how our reactions and energy can alter experiences, from dealing with horses to potential intruders.
  • Their conversation ends with philosophical musings, tying back to intentionality and future preparedness.

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Melissa Amos [:

Good morning, Belle. Good morning, Beth.

Beth Hewitt [:

How are you doing?

Melissa Amos [:

I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I came across something in on my Facebook memories today of a story that I was sharing this time last year, and it was all about 2024 and how 2024 is a foundational year. And what we're in 2024 is the foundations and for what we're going to be building for 2025 and beyond. Yeah, the. That next to 2025 will be this, like where everything takes off. So this was all about building foundations.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [:

We might have recorded something.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah. Yeah. It does sound quite familiar, actually, that. And it is that time of year when we start thinking about getting intentional about the year ahead. So has this year been the foundational year that you. Yeah, thought it would be.

Melissa Amos [:

And hopefully it's funny because a couple of years ago it was the opposite. It was let go. Yeah. I kind of got used to it. Quicker results and it felt quite outward facing. And this year, despite knowing that this time last year, it's. I probably forgot many times that this is what this year was all about. So there has been a frustration at times of when's it going to happen? I'm putting all this work in.

Melissa Amos [:

Is it even worth it? What's going on? And actually now looking back, I'm thinking, wow, I have done so much in restructuring what I'm. How I'm offering things, looking at my routines, really bringing in a lot like gathering a lot of information, skills, teams.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah, that's good to know. Yeah. Because I think we can. There's different kinds of experiences that we're having. We're going through life especially, you know, in business. Sometimes it can be the go go energy, which is good because it's momentum and it's moving us forward and towards the vision. Sometimes it can feel like that stuckness or resistance or the procrastinating. I actually think that one.

Beth Hewitt [:

I think procrastination or resistance is sometimes the label that we go to when we're not moving forward. But I don't always think that it is that. I think sometimes it's the body saying or the mind saying, pause before you take action. But we immediately go to the home resisting, home self sabotaging, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't always think that's the case. And then there's other times, like I say, where there's other times where it feels like everything's been dismantled. Yeah, that's another kind of year, isn't it? Where actually it feels like either things are crumbling Unintentionally, but maybe the universe has got a bigger plan. It could be the whole tower kind of experience.

Beth Hewitt [:

And other times, it can be. Definitely feel like that those building blocks, the building, the structure and all of that. So it definitely sounds like you. Your intention came into fruition, I think sometimes as well. It's like, we think, like, for me, this year, I really wanted to. To do some of that work, but this year has just not been the year to do that. There's been so much personal stuff going on, but I think there's still things that are happening.

Melissa Amos [:

Yeah.

Beth Hewitt [:

That are almost preparing you for when you want to get intentional about creating the foundation. So I feel like I'm about a year behind you, but I'm not behind anybody. Like, I'm right on time. But I feel like that's like, my 2025 is going to be about the foundations for me, I would say, because there's things that I'm changing now that I'm talking about that I've been sharing with my clients, that I'm thinking about business. That is definitely gonna mean that thing. Things are going to change in 2025.

Melissa Amos [:

But then would things be able to change in 2025 had you not have created this foundation? And maybe for you, the foundation was this. You know, how much am I working? In what way am I working? Where do I have this freedom to be able to prioritize different things? So, yeah, you're right. For me, it's not been like, let's plan, let's go, because honey's never really been mine.

Beth Hewitt [:

It's not sexy, is it?

Melissa Amos [:

No, it's definitely not my fun. My. My fun night in, though. Sometimes I get in the mood. But it's. If I'm looking back, like you say, it was intentional. I'm not even sure if. If it was necessarily intentional.

Melissa Amos [:

That's what I was picking up. This time year, I just run a workshop, I think, in soul space, and we were talking about. And this was like, the information that came through that 2024 is going to be this foundational year. And then the year happens, and we forget. Now, my word of 2024 was choose. And this landed for me at the end of January when I couldn't choose my word. And then I was like, oh, my word is choose, obviously. And I think that has brought this foundational energy to it, because it's like, what am I choosing? Because that word very much is.

Melissa Amos [:

It works in two ways. It's okay, make a choice and run with it. But then it's also when you're running with something and you're like, what on earth am I doing? It's. You chose this. This was deliberate. You chose this. So how are you going to make.

Beth Hewitt [:

The most of it?

Melissa Amos [:

And so I think a lot of it was bestowed upon me rather than necessarily me going out and intentionally going, right, I'm going to build my foundations for next year. It's just what's happened. Things have slowed down in many ways and allowed me to re look at things. And I've had those frustrations because I think in order to build foundations, there will be a frustration or that can't fit there and that can't do that. And I can't just do. And I've got to keep digging deeper in order to keep. To create the right space and to create the right holding. And so, yeah, it's just.

Melissa Amos [:

It's in the retrospection that I realized that it's been quite useful.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah, you're definitely right. It's like levels of foundation, isn't it? And preparation. And some of that is intentional and some of of it isn't, but it just isn't. We just didn't plan for that. Right.

Melissa Amos [:

Like universe, why.

Beth Hewitt [:

But in there is the goal sometimes making us pause and stop and change direction maybe a little bit, tweak things. So it's all good. It's all good to put all of that in the mix.

Melissa Amos [:

Somebody sent me a meme. It's not really a meme. A thing yesterday. And I think it's quite apt. It's a bit odd. I'm gonna read it. It says I. It's from I am Starving af.

Melissa Amos [:

I think on Instagram it says, my dog wants a bite of my peanut butter chocolate chip bagel. I know she can't have this because chocolate makes dogs very sick. Madigan does not understand this. She pouts and wraps herself around my leg like a scarf, trying to convince me to give her just a tiny bit. When I do not give in, she eventually gives up and lays in the corner under the piano, drooping and sad. I hope the universe has my best interest in mind, like I have my dogs. When I want something with my whole being and the universe withholds it for me, I hope the universe thinks to herself, silly girl. She thinks that is what she wants, but she doesn't understand it will hurt.

Beth Hewitt [:

Powerful love, that little thing. It's so true, isn't it?

Melissa Amos [:

Yeah. And sometimes it is. And I do think, and I don't think the universe necessarily goes, no, that's not going to be good for her. I think that the truth for me is the universe goes, okay, this is all the stuff you've been putting out there. This is like your soul desire, your human desire, your ego desire, emotional, all the desires that we put out there. And the universe is simply giving back to us what it is that we've said on these levels that we wanted. And I think that our, our soul desire, like our deepest desire, our blueprint is the stronger force, if you like, with the universe. And then the different layers come up and let this also remind us what powerful beings we are.

Melissa Amos [:

Because we can always override that when.

Beth Hewitt [:

Exactly I want to be this.

Melissa Amos [:

And then our brain goes, no. And then we don't. But from the universe point of view, they're con. It's constantly delivering back.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [:

I think the main magnet is what I'm saying is the soul. And then the other bits act like other mini magnets.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah. Because there are things that we just walk into and that we do that you would think if the universe was thinking, I'm going to withhold this thing because it's not quite good for you, that then it just would happen. People have addictions or they have, you know, gambling or anything or just eating the bad stuff or getting into the wrong relationships. If, if the universe was going to just dish up every time, you can have a much easier life. I'm not going to allow you to do that. Then it then. So we've got this free will and we get to make these choices. But like you said, there's this magnet, this bigger, stronger magnet that's always pulling us back.

Beth Hewitt [:

And I think that magnet that pull is what gets stronger the more we resist or we do these things that we know we maybe shouldn't be doing or maybe we don't know that we're not supposed to be doing, but we just stumble into them any and go my fingers kind of thing. Then that magnet gets stronger and stronger, but it's almost like there's little maggots tweaking us. Oh, that's. You shouldn't really be doing that. And like I've got the power to pull you over here a little bit, but no, I'm going to continue to do this thing that you could say all things that we experience are for the greater good, couldn't you? In the end, like even the things in the moment that maybe don't feel good or the light is up or.

Melissa Amos [:

I wonder if we looked at our foundations like this magnetic, like when you're building Lego Yeah, yeah. And of course, obviously, so, I mean, today, that was like all these bad people who are centennials that can't play LEGO anymore. It says not to 99 on the boxes. If you're building leg, it starts with what? Where are the right dots, blocks, bricks, shapes for whatever it is that I'm building ahead of us? So what if those blocks, bricks, shapes were actually magnets? Then what we're doing here is we're building this foundation of different shaped magnets, if you like. And each one will draw into it the right material and the right shape and the right size and the right whatever, density and all the right things. So. So that would be your desires, your wishes and. And all of this stuff.

Melissa Amos [:

And I like, this is how I'm seeing it. It's like the. The soul.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [:

Desires. The blueprint sits right there at the bottom at the base. And it's the strongest magnet at the base. It's like I am magnetizing things. And it has its certain agendas or certain things that it is more likely to bring in. Like it's going to bring in the aluminum, maybe over the copper or something.

Beth Hewitt [:

Right.

Melissa Amos [:

But it's the stronger one. And then the layers that we put on top of that are either in alignment with this magnet, so it's builds upon the aluminum foundation, for example, or it's actually as my human or as my will, or as my programming or as my societal expectations. I'm putting in these other things because that's what I think that I need to do, what something's telling me that I need to do. And they are like the copper magnet. So they're still going to magnetize. And your magnets still. There's still these other bricks, magnet bricks that sit around it and when. So all of it's coming.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [:

And sometimes there will be a conflict. Sometimes it'll be like, hold on a minute, we can't get a mat. We can't get an aluminum and a copper on the same brick. And so it's which one. We've built more magnets on top of which is our thoughts, our desires, our actions. All of these things.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [:

Then determine which one is actually going to land. It's all coming. Oh, it's all coming. What's going to land? Yeah, yeah. And this goes a little one step further. What if, then when we align to our soul, when we have that inner wisdom, when we take the time to go, what is it? What have I built on? Why am I here? What are my true desires? And we unravel the Programming and we unravel the need for too much copper. Right. And we realize, no, I'm aluminum based.

Melissa Amos [:

That's my thing. And I can still enjoy these things, but that's my thing. But then the bricks that we lay on top are working with the aluminum. So then it's pulling in stronger, it's got a stronger current that's then pulling in the thing that's actually more aligned. So then it happens maybe quicker or maybe it happens in more.

Beth Hewitt [:

I love this. I think I'm gonna have to listen back to this episode to take digest all that. Again, I'm wondering what. What is this offshoot of the lego, this spiritual LEGO brand? And what are we creating? What do we have? What LEGO structure do we have at the end of it?

Melissa Amos [:

Is.

Beth Hewitt [:

Or is it just up for like our imagination? Like with lego, let me.

Melissa Amos [:

My aluminum cogs. Let's like stick with the, with the theme of the magnetic base. And then I'm adding my job as human me is then to design. Actually, am I having a house that is two stories or three stories? Or is it going to be wide or thin? Or is it going to have six rooms or 12 rooms? It's. Then I can design based on my. On my flow, based on my true essence, what it is that I'm like, what feels better. And if I want a bit of copper or can't think of any other metals now, lead or whatever else and it's going through the periodic table in my head, if I want some other, or even some plastic or some other things in my life, I can bring them and I can bring them into my LEGO house.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [:

And if it doesn't work and I don't like it, I can always extend, knock things down, bring things up, do all of that. But my foundations are solid and my magnetism is stronger.

Beth Hewitt [:

I love all of this. It's probably called something like LEGO for schools or something. But in schools they teach LEGO as a. It's a tool to help with communication and cooperation and friendship and building friendships and all of that. So I love that we've got this analogy with the foundations as well, because that's what. I suppose it's a good way to teach kids, isn't it, about some of these theories and ideas and what's running the show, what's not running the show.

Melissa Amos [:

Yeah. So now what I need is a giant magnet specific to certain metals and then some other magnets that are specific to other metals. So I can do a mass demonstration.

Beth Hewitt [:

I wish you were my science teacher in school. Because I would have paid much more attention.

Melissa Amos [:

This is why I loved science at school. But I think it was physics. We just did science. I didn't know what the difference was. Yeah at the time of the different biology, chemistry, physics, physics I loved. It's so interesting. And now quantum physics I read. It was pretty.

Melissa Amos [:

A year ago I was reading the field and that was so interesting. Like all of this evidence around quantum theory, quantum mechanics, quantum physics, like it was so fascinating and you just think like the information that's available to us and it took me more than 30 years of my life to actually really not even understand it. Like I don't think anyone can say that they really understand it, but even just to explore it. Like imagine we knew that we had those answers when we were. Yeah 7.

Beth Hewitt [:

It is a shame, isn't it that we're taught all that we're taught in. For me, obviously we're not talk quantum physics when we're 70 but we're taught the subjects when we're younger and we're not. It's a surface level. Like we're taking in the information to maybe get a qualification or to hit a target, but we're not really internalizing it and questioning it. Maybe you do when you get to a level and beyond. And I'm not a scientist. I do work with some physicists actually I work with Liverpool Math School quite a bit and child. Liverpool Math School and they only teach maths, physics and computing.

Beth Hewitt [:

That's all that their pupils do. Which I think is pretty amazing. But there was a lecture that one of. One of the professors, they couldn't attend this particular meeting and they said this was the reason why. And they sent through the lecture and it was. And I was like, oh my God, I want to come to this. But I couldn't because I had to go to this meeting. They were like, this is.

Beth Hewitt [:

I'm running this lecture, I think it was at Leeds University on the science of being able to see things within things. So when you look at a cloud and you can see like certain things and what happens. I was like, I need to go to that lecture. And again I was thinking I would never have thought that was physics. My 16 year would have been like I would never have thought to have pushed on the physics door back then because I didn't think like that world of education was available to me or that there was actually people speaking about things that made sense to me on a soul and spiritual level. Because that was one of the things that really put me off. Science was that it doesn't speak my language. It doesn't allow for me to discuss and explore, but it does.

Beth Hewitt [:

It's just that obviously we're not taught that. That background.

Melissa Amos [:

That's the difference between science and. What can we call it? Scientism. Science really is an exploration. Science is like, oh, I wonder. Science is the wondering, right? I wonder how, I wonder why. I wonder what. And so I. I love that.

Melissa Amos [:

And doing the experiments at school, and you're like, going, if I add more coffee to the water, will it. What will happen? And. But what I realized, and I'm even thinking back now to a particular lesson that I had when we were talking about the universe and they said, the universe is expanding. And I'm sitting there and I remember putting up my hand and going, where's the universe expanding to? Everyone looked at me probably like I was a weirdo. My teacher was like, it's just expanding outwards. And I'm like, but where is it expanding to? And he's. If you have a balloon, and if you. And I'm like, okay, but then it's expanding into the world, so where's the unit? What's outside the universe that's making.

Melissa Amos [:

Now, if I had a student like that was asking me these questions, a science teacher, I'd be like, I think she needs to go to the quantum physics department. Not that there was one. And to encourage that way of thinking or even say, you might be interested in looking at these different theories, because isn't that the point of education, that we can use our minds to evolve and to bring new ideas and to bring new theories and to understand why there's. We see faces and clouds, different viewpoints and levels.

Beth Hewitt [:

Absolutely.

Melissa Amos [:

It's fascinating.

Beth Hewitt [:

It really is fascinating. I feel. They said, is it age that. What. What's the thing? Something is wasted on the youth. Is it age Wisdom? I don't know what it is. There's a saying. It'll come to me.

Beth Hewitt [:

The podcast listeners will be shouting at them.

Melissa Amos [:

If we were a youth, we would know we're too old, we're past the.

Beth Hewitt [:

Point of no return. But I think a lot of the stuff that we have available to us when we're younger, it's almost wasted. I know that's not sound. It's. Nothing's really ever wasted.

Melissa Amos [:

But I know what you mean.

Beth Hewitt [:

Do you know what I mean? We're not getting. We don't get the most of it. And that could be for a whole host of reasons. Like maybe we're not just. We're just not ready for it. But maybe a good teacher would, like I say, point, at least point you in the right direction.

Melissa Amos [:

Or say.

Beth Hewitt [:

Maybe they didn't notice or maybe they didn't know what to do with us. I don't know. Certainly didn't know what to do with me, that's for sure.

Melissa Amos [:

My RE teacher didn't know what to do with me, so he was asking massive questions.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah, I loved. I wish I'd actually done RE as a gcc. I wish I'd done philosophy as well.

Melissa Amos [:

Interesting, interesting fact, fun fact. I actually registered to do philosophy at university when I was choosing my subjects. And then right at the last minute, literally I got my results. And then I was like, and I did better than I thought. And I thought. And I went to business school instead. And I remember calling them and saying, look, I've just, I've changed my mind, I'm gonna come and do business studies at the same university. And the guy on the phone was like, oh, that's a shame, he didn't know me.

Melissa Amos [:

And I was like, I just think it gives me better prospects. But I then I've spent my whole adult life looking into philosophy.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah, I'm the same. So interestingly, I went to A. It was an A level open evening, I think it was. So I left school, I didn't immediately do my A levels. I went to work for a few years and then I went back into to do my A levels when I knew what. When I had more of an idea of what I might want to do. And so I went to an open evening at college and there was this room, this philosophy room, there was one teacher in there, there was like a sheet on a table that said, this is philosophy, this is what you teach. Picked it up, I was really interested and I said I'd really like to sign up for it.

Beth Hewitt [:

And the teacher talked me out of doing it, I think because nobody else.

Melissa Amos [:

Was interested in it.

Beth Hewitt [:

They're literally like talked about me and you. It wouldn't be a good. And I was like, but I was like, but I really want to do it. And they're like, yeah, I don't think we're going to do it this year. And I was like, what, what was that? But it was very much like a similar kind of thing, like a. Almost like a sliding doors moment where I could have also done philosophy. That's really funny. But like I said then, I've always been on this quest for deeper philosophy philosophizing, if that's the word, all of the time.

Beth Hewitt [:

I Do when you start talking about. I did get goosebumps instantly because maybe you should go back to do that a little bit more or something. Or the philosophy of gratitude and vision or something in the future.

Melissa Amos [:

I. I do wonder, though, had we have taken philosophy, if it was one of those moments, like I just read in that quote that the universe was like, no, because maybe it would have sucked all the life out of it.

Beth Hewitt [:

Maybe it would. Maybe it was.

Melissa Amos [:

It would have been learning other people's philosophies. And then it was like when I did my law module in for business, it was so interesting. I was fascinated in that some of the cases that were. But the whole exams and what we needed to remember wasn't really the juicy bit. It was who and when.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [:

And I'm like, I don't care who and I don't care when. I don't care on the names, I don't care on the year. What I want to know is what was going on in that dynamic. And I think that philosophy will have had much of that at the same. And then I'd have just been like, this is boring. So maybe it was one of those things that I then could philosophize on business. They ended up specializing in marketing and human resource management. And even with marketing, I got all philosophical.

Melissa Amos [:

And I love that.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah. Yeah, I do, too. Clearly, for me, the teacher wouldn't have been the right teacher. Like, they literally didn't want to teach me. Maybe that's because maybe that was her teaching. Maybe she was teaching me the biggest lesson of all, that the more we know ourselves and the more we teach ourselves, the more we collect wisdom. Ourselves in different ways then.

Melissa Amos [:

But isn't it interesting that now I run Soul School space and you have your gratitude and vision community and we're actually teaching philosophy.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah, isn't it? I do remember, like, in one, it was a general studies class. I don't. Do they even do general studies anymore? I don't know. But when I did A level, you had to do general studies. And I still don't understand what everybody was laughing at because in the. I still don't get it. I still don't understand. In the lesson, the teacher said, if aliens came to Earth, how would you communicate with them? And he immediately pointed at me.

Beth Hewitt [:

And I just like. I was like, I'd probably wave. That was the first thing that came into my head. And the whole class was like, in hysterics. It was like, you'd wave at them. And I was like, yeah, I think that would be my first instinct. I'd just wave at them and the whole laugh and I'm like, why are you all laughing at me? That is just my genuine, intuitive first answer. An alien came to this planet and I feel like it's quite a safe.

Beth Hewitt [:

It's not threatening. I'm just. Whether they understand it or not. And the whole class was just in absolute hysterics and I was like, what on earth have I just said?

Melissa Amos [:

But what would they have done? I don't know.

Beth Hewitt [:

I still understand. I don't feel like I ever got an answer. It was called Hugh was a really lovely teacher, but it was quite quirky. I can't remember because I think then I got so lost in my head. I think he probably went on to teach what the right or correct answer might have been. But I was so lost in my.

Melissa Amos [:

Head what the correct answer might have been of When Aliens come. Yeah.

Beth Hewitt [:

In the textbook. What everybody was trying to get at, whatever the point was. But I was in my head then at that point of. Have I just said something completely. I don't know. I still don't get it. But it means everybody laughs. I was like, whatever.

Melissa Amos [:

So the alien would be like, oh, look, she's so cute.

Beth Hewitt [:

I don't know what he was getting at. I still don't know what he was getting at. I might have to go find him on LinkedIn or something and ask, what on earth. I love that you get to. You get to give your. The first names of. Unlike school, you get to actually call them by their names. That's a whole new world, isn't it.

Melissa Amos [:

When you do that? So if you met an alien today, when you were going to the shops.

Beth Hewitt [:

What you do today? I think I'd. I'd connect with my. Intuitively, I'd connect probably. I'd try to channel or I tried to receive. Read the energy, all of that. I'd probably do more of that, but maybe I would wave. I don't know. Maybe that was my instinctive thing.

Melissa Amos [:

It depends what they look like as well.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [:

And in what way? If I was just. If I walked out of here and then there was an alien in my garden again. It depends. If it was like Alien from the film Alien, I might have a different reaction. So if it was like more commending Alien. Right. Yeah. Robin Williams just shows up in the back of my.

Melissa Amos [:

My house, I'd be like, oh, I. I don't know. I think that there would be. I think that there'd be a bit of fear there. Just like if a fox is. Comes in there, you get that, oh, there's a living being in my property. Do you know what? I think that I would very much treat it them like an. Like if an animal appeared, you'd be like, are you safe? Yeah.

Beth Hewitt [:

You read the room and.

Melissa Amos [:

Yeah, yeah. And then be like, oh. And if they were safe, if they felt that way, they look like a cute little kitten. I'd then treat them like a kind of cute little kitten. And if I had the wits about me, if I wasn't too frightened, I'd go into that telepathic. Yeah, communication eventually.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah. And then if it was sift with, I would.

Melissa Amos [:

Hi.

Beth Hewitt [:

Hello.

Melissa Amos [:

Hi. Eh, so, listeners, if you met an alien on your way to the shops today, what would be your first instinct? What would you do?

Beth Hewitt [:

What would you do?

Melissa Amos [:

How would you greet them? Take me to your leader and go. Imagine that happened.

Beth Hewitt [:

Now, I think it brings us back to foundations, doesn't it? Because it's like almost feeling and finding the foundations of the experience in the moment. And how do you approach. How do I approach this conundrum of an alien just, you know, landing in my back garden or on the way to shops and if you've got solid foundations or you've got unsure foundations, then you might do it in a slightly different way.

Melissa Amos [:

Exactly. There was a time last year I went out for a walk with. With boys, my husband and we went to this field where they've got this really, these really cool climbing trees. Anyway, we're climbing. We're just like in this bit. And then eight horses just came and surrounded us right now I don't have much experience with horses. I'm. I've never really been exposed to many horses and I was like.

Melissa Amos [:

And obviously I had my boys and my middle. It is quite jumpy around animals especially and I. And so my first instinct was like, oh my God, what do we do? And I was scared for. What if they kick us? What if they took. They're like massive. And I phoned my. Someone I know who is a horsey person. And I was like, I'm surrounded by however many seven, eight horses.

Melissa Amos [:

She said, wow, it's amazing. And I'm like, not sure it is amazing. I was like, are they going to kill us? And she was in hysterics. She was just like, you're nuts. And I'm like, no, seriously, are they going to harm me? She was like, no, they'll be fine. Because if she was in that position, she'd be like, oh, since it's Amazing and just. And be completely different. But she did reassure me.

Melissa Amos [:

But I backed away slows like don't stand behind them and back away slowly, trying not to like feel anything big and try. And trying to take in the match, the majesty of the moment because it was awe inspiring. And it was on Beltane and there was this white horse. So it was, it had all of these, the symbolics. And I was like, okay, am I going to let my fear win? And I didn't want my kids to think that I was scared. And. And so you don't know if you said to me, oh, Mel, imagine you were in a field and all these horses came around. You would be amazing.

Melissa Amos [:

And I'd go their faces and I'd be like, oh, the horses love me. But the reality was different because I didn't have the foundational piece of this is how the horses respond and this is how you act. And when I have programming, my mum's quite jumpy around animals, so I have that programming there as well. And that's what we're moving through. That's the copper to my aluminum, maybe.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah, I love that story. So how did they. How did you just back away from them and go the situation or did.

Melissa Amos [:

So I moved out and rounds. So the boys climbed a tree and I'm just left there and they were up the tree and I just on my own because I'm not climbing the tree. So I was like, I was talking to them like really calm, yeah lovely horses and just backing away, making sure that I didn't go too close behind any of their back ends and then went behind this gate and then when I left, they lost interest and then they left and then the boys came out and it was fine. But I've not been back. I have been back to the field back and I'm like, where are those? But I think I'd react differently this time. Yeah, it's interesting experience.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? Like how our energy and how our perception and how we react can just completely change the dynamic of what's going on or the outcome that you're trying to. To achieve. My. My friend KJ did a podcast episode with her quite a while ago. Now I can link to it in the chat where she. She was in a situation where it wasn't horses in a forest, but an intruder in a home. He came into the house and she was on her own and she almost like she, she went inside herself at that moment and thought, I'm not going to play out the victim or the scared the person that's feared. She said she wasn't calculated.

Beth Hewitt [:

She would have never known she would have reacted in that way. But she essentially turned the around where she was actually being kind and loving. Are you lost is or something the matter? And all of a sudden his demeanor went from wanting to cause her harm to. He became the trapped person in the space and I think it's. That's interesting, isn't it interesting. And she then obviously what happened after he left and he was absolutely fine and she was able to tell this story and. But I think it's very interesting how we can shift how energy is received and how we're giving and receiving energy in the moment and that can completely transform what is going on in the space and the environment. So yeah, we've talked about all sorts today.

Beth Hewitt [:

We've been aliens, foundations, intruders, horses, Lego, you name it.

Melissa Amos [:

Aluminum. Good luck. Or aluminum if you are. If you are one of our U.S. business. Yeah, good luck titling this one.

Beth Hewitt [:

Thank you very much. Might be one for chatgpt perhaps.

Melissa Amos [:

Good luck GPT.

Beth Hewitt [:

Yeah, good luck Jack.

Melissa Amos [:

Hi to leave everyone. We hope you have enjoyed the episode. Let us know on our many philosophies.

Beth Hewitt [:

Of life until next time. See you soon.

Melissa Amos [:

Bye.

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