Host Mary Clare speaks with Shoshone-Bannock tribal member Carmen Yupe about Carmen's pillars of strength in this time of COVID. Carmen tells stories of her training as a yoga instructor and her childhood trauma, and the support that she has found in her chosen communities: how she is supported by others, and how she, in turn, holds others up.

Music this episode is by Cedar Mathers-Winn and Alexei Desmarais.

Find Cedar at https://cedararran.bandcamp.com/

Find Alexei at https://medium.com/@alexeidesmarais

Check out Mary's work in Full Ecology with Gary Ferguson at www.fullecology.com

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