On today's episode, I had the pleasure of having an amazing conversation with Shelley Winner.
Shelley was introduced to alcohol by her dad at age 11. Her drug and alcohol use grew from there to trafficking in drugs in her 30s. She was arrested and received a 4-year sentence in a federal institution in California. Believe it or not, it turned out to be one of the best things to happen to her. She got clean, gave birth to a wonderful baby boy, and now works for a high-tech company. She advocates for formerly incarcerated people around the country.