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When I see the photo of Jan's butt before any surgery, there's nothing wrong with Jan's butt.

It is like a normal butt, honestly, better butt than my butt.

It's a good butt.

Like Jan, it's a good butt.

Butt.

But, but,

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hello,

Hi and hello listeners.

Welcome to Review That Review.

We are the podcast that is dedicated to reviewing.

Reviews!

That is Chelsey Donn.

And that is Trey Gerald.

And together we are,

The review, Queens

but first, Chelsey, is there anything you need to

Lodge a complaint.

about today?

Exhale.

Just taking the world's largest exhale for a second.

Yes, of course.

Thank you, Trey.

Thank you for giving me this platform.

I don't know why I'm constantly amazed, but why is it that the loudest person is also always the least competent?

Wow.

Interesting.

It's the person that has the most opinions.

About all of the things, I mean, not to mention the, the subject matter of our show, of course, but like the loudest person is doing the least why, like, what is the point of that?

Is that like a lesson that we're all supposed to learn about dealing with difficult people?

I mean, I think I have to make it introspective.

Otherwise I think I would just lose my mind because I'm a hardworking person and I care a lot.

About the things that I do, all of the things that I do, and not everybody cares that much, Yet, they're the loudest, and they have the biggest opinion, And what is that?

I don't know.

I just wanted to talk about it because I'm hoping our listeners can connect and I'm hoping that we, as the sensitive people, can learn to care less because I think it's going to keep happening where people are going to be loud and they're not going to be contributing and you're going to be doing so much and I don't know, I can't get my heart broken every single time that happens.

You know?

I mean, it's a deep conversation.

I'm, it is curious to me because I feel like, I mean, who knows why, but I

Right.

oftentimes when I feel like I'm in that experience, it's sort of a magic trick.

It's like, don't pay attention to what I'm doing over here.

Just my right hand's being really loud.

So you aren't catching on

Yeah.

the lack of

Competence or action?

I don't know.

Yeah.

I wonder what that is.

It is like,

It's confounding.

It just feels like it happens in so many situations.

And obviously, I'm thinking about this in a certain way and, you know, my personal life, which I'm not going to delve into.

But, I'm just realizing that it's just so common with everything, like even just the show and what we do and with the reviews and people feeling like they want to go on the internet and they want to complain and they want to be so loud and they want to be so judgmental, like when we had the Mack Mart sisters on the podcast and they talked about people that want to just be like, your food is disgusting, as if that's like an Unpermeable truth and it's so cowardice because what are you?

You're sitting on your computer and you're writing that and then we have people like the Mac Mart sisters that are working their asses off to bring mac and cheese to the masses to make people happy and they have to deal with so many logistical issues of just keeping their restaurant afloat.

Shout out to Marty and PJ, just for a second, just to bring us back to what we do, you know, and then somebody's gonna write a review and try to tear them down, so obviously we have to all be better at not listening to the noise and just continuing to do what we do, if we're A person that wants to contribute to the world and the society and whatever, in some way, if we want to offer kindness, if we want to offer something, we're probably going to be criticized, right?

People always have things to say,

Right, and I think it's just not paying it mind

not paying it mind.

Yeah.

Anyway, I hope that resonated with somebody.

I hear it, I've felt it, and I can validate it.

Thank you, Trey.

One day at a time.

day at a time.

And now we get to do what's really fun, which is shut the whole world out and review some reviews.

Do you wanna go head to head?

I'm ready, Trey.

I got the one star and I am ready to go to battle.

Alright, why don't

Assess that Keve.

And as Chelsey alluded, and as our title tells you, today is another Versus episode, meaning we are going to be covering both a one star and a five star review on the same exact topic.

That's right.

For this versus episode, Trey has selected the five star.

And as I mentioned, I have selected the one star.

So, to determine who reads first, who better to turn to than the good old quarter.

I think it's your turn to guess, Trey.

I always feel that way, but I think it is.

Alright, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say heads.

Okay,

And it's tails.

okay, geez, Louise, I feel like you've been losing a lot, but all right, one star, That's what you guys are meant to hear,

Well, this is gonna get a little scary, I think.

So,

okay,

everyone, today, we are collecting data from both ends of the spectrum of Yelp reviews for BGMG Cosmetics in California, specifically Bell Gardens.

At the time of this recording, there are 181 reviews on Yelp, with an average score of 3.

6 of 5.

Alright, so according to the About the Business section on Yelp, it says in all caps,

And this is copy pasted, so here we go.

okay,

Yelp allows fake reviews from competitors, And reviews that have no merit to them.

does not put up all the hundreds and hundreds of positive reviews that we receive on the daily.

Yelp hides the positive reviews unless you pay them for quote unquote ads.

Yelp is a food blog.

Yelp, does not understand the healthcare industry and how results are measured, BGMG Cosmetics has more than 20, 000 procedures performed, Face, Facelift Surgery, Eyelid Surgery, Rhinoplasty, Optoplastic, Mini Facelift, Brow Lift, Chin Surgery, and Forehead Lift, Breast, Breast Augmentation, Breast Lift, Breast Reduction and Nipple Reduction, Body, Liposuction, Mini Tuck.

Body Lift, Hips Implants, Brazilian Butt Lift, Tummy Tuck, Thigh Lift, Arm Lift, and Buttocks Implants.

We also specialize in diagnostic medical surgery such as hernias, vaginal repair, and vaginoplasty.

Call us today for a free consultation!

Alright, so it's important, I just want this to be clear since you can't read the page unless you go right now.

This is all, like, in a Yelp format, so when you, like, click read more under the about the business, It's auto formatted, because I guess you just type in a little text box.

mm hmm,

they tell you, you have to write in this text box, your specialties.

mm hmm,

bold lettering specialties, and they've written, disclaimer, Yelp hides your reviews.

So

they've taken the space That's not ordinarily used for this purpose, To get, to get roll out,

Yes, so, okay, so that was specialties, so

Mm hmm.

with, History, established in 1992, started with a passion to enhance women's health and beauty, over 20 years of experience and over 20, 000 procedures performed, please visit our website at www.

bgmgcosmetics.

com, which I did, So I just quickly want

Mm hmm.

Okay.

when you go to that website, the homepage and big bold letters, it says number one celebrity cosmetic surgery center, but it doesn't tell you who said that it doesn't give you like credit.

There's no asterisk doesn't say what that statistic is

It doesn't say like the LA Times or like LA Medical Magazine or something.

no, it's as if that's the

That's just the name of the company.

Got it.

Of

so, you know, there's all the tabs, like click to contact, so the tab that I would imagine would be Gallery, or Images, or Previous Work, is simply listed as Babes, and when you click on it, it's BGMG Babes, which, I don't know, maybe that's empowering, and then under the Reviews tab, because they have their own Review tab,

course.

They state that they've done over 50, 000 procedures, which I just thought was a noticeable 30, 000

Wow.

from what they say on Yelp.

So I don't know if they just haven't

But maybe it's because they haven't updated it and that was like where they were when they started the page.

Right.

That's my thinking as

Yeah.

Or maybe not.

I don't know.

You're the one star.

So

Yeah.

all of that and I collected a five star.

So you'll hear my five star on the after show.

But now with all of that background,

Yes.

let's go to the negative side of the seesaw.

Let's do it.

Let's do it.

Review that.

Review

I just want to quickly state that Trey and I have no opinions about plastic surgery being good or bad.

We have no judgments about plastic surgery.

If you want to do it for you, good for you, baby.

This is all to be stated with no opinions.

Like, we think it's completely valid.

Get your plastic surgery if you want it.

I honestly think if you have a negative opinion about someone else's plastic surgery, on you.

Totally

Have it if you want it.

agree.

the opinion doesn't matter.

So

Nobody's opinion matters.

I'm just saying that because I have the one star and that's it.

That doesn't come into the conversation at all, but just wanted to state it.

So this one star review is written by Jan.

I think this might be our first Jan, Trey.

Jan B.

Okay, here we go.

Ladies, listen to the reviews.

I spent a whole year following BMG Cosmetics before making my final decision on a doctor to do my BBL.

I read the reviews, but decided to overlook them because people could be harsh at times.

Well, I made the biggest mistake ever.

I've been given the runaround for months until I was finally able to speak to the doctor.

The doctor agreed on my butt not looking good.

When I had my first consultation, I specifically told the doctor that I wanted those ugly bumps removed from my butt, and that is why I chose to get a BBL done.

hmm.

a okay with that as long as my butt looked good.

Eight months later, here I am with a butt that looks like my old butt.

Mm.

The doctor said I now need butt injections, and the cost would be 5, 000 additional from the 12, 000 I paid for my BBL.

Once again, the reviews are true, you're just a number after your procedure, I trusted Dr.

Sahafi with my procedure, And at the end, these are my results, ladies, All my hard earned money, Went to waste.

Also take into consideration that I flew from Texas for this procedure.

I'm just sad and disappointed at this point and super angry with myself for overlooking reviews.

Hmm,

That's tough,

I do have some photos.

So Trey, this is before BBL is how it's marked.

This next photo I'm going to send you is the after.

Alright, so the before I can see, it's like someone taking a selfie, but they've cropped it like right at their wrist, right, and they're standing in front of a shower, and they're wearing like a thong, like onesie, and it's just dimply, it's like you can see, I mean I guess this is cellulite, I mean it looks like a normal body,

Right.

Yeah.

because before looking at the after BBL like I don't know much about cellulite necessarily So I was curious they're like, oh like an answer may be cheaper off I don't know like why it was offered like we can just like lipo will help a little bit Cuz that doesn't seem like that would be addressing the dimples.

So but okay, that's my unknowing opinion, but

Yeah, and then there's just one, oh sorry, there's one more that's after eight months, I'm gonna send to you, after you describe the next, the next one,

is the after BBL.

So is cropped even tighter.

It's straight on and they're covering.

I can see they've doodled over like a lower back tattoo, which is funny, but you can see like the mass of the booty is just like it's all more rectangular.

I would say like you can tell there's more mass, but I would say of those dimples are absolutely exactly the same.

It's like exactly where they were in the first photo.

It just looks like the booty is like more enhanced, I guess,

slightly,

it doesn't, it's not that noticeable.

And then, all right, lastly, this is more of an up angle.

is after eight months.

There's like a circular one like on the left cheek and then there's a bunch of like linear lines on the right cheek and they're exceedingly present as present in this last picture as they were in the very first.

So this seems to have not addressed the cellulite at all.

yeah,

Like, I would be very upset if this was my results.

yeah, totally,

Also, this is kind of bizarro, but in the original photo, she's looking over her left shoulder, so it's not as direct head on as the very last one, and she's kind of in a similar position for the middle one, but I just want to point out, it seems like a shape issue originally with her body,

mm hmm,

her right butt cheek kind of, it's not a perfect circle, it kind of is like, How do I describe this?

Like, the top of her butt, kind of like,

it's not like two circles,

right, it goes concave

yeah,

a point.

yeah, mm hmm,

Stereotypically, you would draw a butt as like a big half circle.

Yes.

of like, goes in like a belly button, like you're pushing the stomach of the Pillsbury Doughboy, and it

Is it cause she's wearing a thong now?

No, it's like the outside, but it's present all the way through.

Look at her right butt cheek.

Oh, I see what you're saying.

It's,

poke the Pillsbury Doughboy's stomach with

it's okay.

I think I figured out a good analogy.

You know, when you have a pillow on your couch and you go, hi yah!

And you

Yeah.

Like the

shoot it in the middle when you're staging so that you get that like, Boom.

That's right.

It's I'm making it aggressive.

It's like if you did a little higher, it's not like a full like push, but if you did a little one, that's what it looks like on this from the side.

And I'm, I'm only bringing this up because, to me, that looks like a human's butt.

It

Yeah.

an error or a flaw, but if I was going to a cosmetic surgeon to get a BBL,

Yes.

thought that they would maybe get rid

Correct that.

Yeah.

like, stomach pushin

more the whole idea, put more, put more stuffing in the pillow to the point where you're not going to be able to hire.

It's going to be so taught and full.

If you, if you did that to it, it would just like bounce back to its shape.

Exactly.

I thought of another analogy.

It's like when you have a plastic Coke bottle and you like crunch it a little and it doesn't pop back out.

It just retains that dent.

Right.

Okay.

Okay.

Right, and I agree with you, like, I wanna be clear to respect Jan, like, when I see the photo of Jan's butt before any surgery, there's nothing wrong with Jan's butt, it is like a normal butt, honestly, better butt than my butt, It's a good but, like, Jan, it's a good but, but, Jan didn't love it, and wanted to change it, and the photos do not reflect that change,

No, it seems like the desire from the consultation was not met

not met, and that's like very clear, and I want to point out, quickly, just circling back to what I was saying at the top of the show, like, I see Jan, As a doer, I see Jan as someone that did their homework.

They read the reviews.

They posted the photos in terms of truthful shady here.

I don't think that this was slanderous.

I think this is deeply personal and upsetting.

No, I think you're allowed to say that this is what your experience was.

Yeah,

the photographic evidence is like, a little upsetting.

Like what occurred to me in hearing the review is like, why was What I was addressing, why was I given a different option?

And that's that could be maybe this procedure is more common and uh, you'll have this a similar side effect that will give you at least 80 percent of what it is you're seeking and maybe Cheaper.

Maybe it's

right,

But that was my first sort of red flag.

Like, okay, if I'm wanting to address the bumps, why are we talking about doing these two other things?

right.

And now I have to pay 5, 000 more to do butt injections.

Why wouldn't you have, like, said that at the top?

Even if that was an option, like, listen, we might have to do this afterwards.

yeah, that, and that is also something too, where it's like, if I wanted something specific and we went a different route, and then you have another idea.

Like post surgery to like try to get closer to then it's sort of like well, why didn't

Why wasn't that brought up before?

I'm feeling nickel and dimed like

Totally.

and you're gonna charge me for another procedure

I just feel like you should disclose that, like at the top, if like, that's what makes it feel shady to, on the behalf of the provider.

Don't you think like if you go in for a procedure, you want the doctor to say like, here's plan A, B, and C.

Like, if A works, fantastic.

If A doesn't work, we're gonna do plan A, add this for plan B, and if that doesn't work, then this is our last thing that we can do that we know will definitely work.

Something like that.

Even if it's a combination of things, even if the injections are the inevitable,

Right.

I mean, the only sort of like thing I'm holding out is I know that there is this stigma of going under being a little addictive.

And like, once you've corrected something, there's this desire to keep correcting other things.

And

Mm hmm.

Mm

know that that's here because I can look at these pictures and see, like, the main issue was not addressed, but the whole, I, I also, like, well, okay, value unique information

hmm.

I think the photos sort of do it all, and I

Yeah.

real, Jan really wins at saying, like, ladies, Read the reviews, stop and keep reading the reviews, and consider the reviews, because

right,

to ignore them, and now here I am, out so much money,

right.

and then flying from another

I know.

Well, I was gonna say with the flying from Texas, What stood out for me about the flying for Texas and what you said about the website and admittedly I didn't do as much research into the company as you did, but it seems like Based on the reviews, this is like one of those super, like, Instagram, plastic surgery, like, yeah, like, it's just, like, very, like, oh my god, look, all the girlies are going to this place, and obviously they're claiming to be, like, the world's best celebrity, whatever, without any statistic, so I can see this happening, and I can see this being useful, because I can see there being other Jans out there that could benefit from Jan's review.

How's the spelling grammar?

Very good and very intentional.

I think Jan is an intentional writer and they have a point that they're getting, you know, getting to,

Do they say B M G or did they say B G M G?

Oh, BGMG, did I read it wrong?

I don't know.

Okay,

Um, humor, entertained?

I'm kind of upset.

Like I'm feeling captured by the story.

yeah, I'm feeling, I know, I think that like we, we often expand humor to like entertainment value and was I like enraptured by the story and I feel like I was, I believe Jan and I, I was moved.

By what they had to say and their experience felt genuine and I have empathy for them.

And I don't think they're a hater.

no.

No, I think they're coming to the defense of people that are considering hiring

Right.

plastic surgeon.

Yeah, they didn't.

I don't think they hit below the belt.

So anyway, I think I could crown Jan.

I feel like I could crown

Yeah.

Oh

do, Chelsey, it's game time!

my.

Are you ready to play Plastic or Plast stink?

Oh God.

Okay.

Is it Plastic or is it Plastink?

Eww!

Okay.

I

So, everyone, I have compiled ten trivia questions surrounding plastic surgery

Oh yeah.

Okay.

on the internet,

Okay.

basically I'm gonna ask you a question, I'm gonna give you an option of four, and you're gonna choose the one.

What you think is correct and then

Okay.

Okay.

All right, Chelsey, are you ready?

Yes.

All right, question one.

For men, what tends to be the most common type cosmetic surgery?

A, nose reshaping, B, facelift, C, liposuction, or D, eyelid surgery?

Rhinoplasty?

Like the nose job?

I'm right.

Nose reshaping, as they call it.

Yes.

Okay.

So nose reshaping accounts for 25 percent of male cosmetic

Wow.

All right, perfect.

Good job.

So number two, here we go.

What age bracket underwent the most cosmetic surgery procedures in the year 2012?

A.

13 19 year olds, B.

20 29 year olds, C.

30 39 year olds, D.

40 54 year olds, E.

E

and over.

oh geez,

that's hard.

2012.

I'm trying to think of where we were in in time and social media.

Maybe 30 to 39.

Hmm.

Do I get a second guess for a half point.

If you want.

40 to 54.

Oh, okay.

Half point.

Okay, so the correct answer is 40 54 year olds.

People in this age range account for 48 percent of all cosmetic surgeries.

Wow.

Okay.

That makes sense.

I feel like now I would guess it's trending younger, but I don't know for sure.

okay, here's another, I don't know why it's 2012.

What percentage of cosmetic surgery procedures were on men?

So what's the total percentage?

A 2%.

B, 9%.

C 15%, or D?

28%?

Ooh, that's hard.

15,

No.

28.

Brown.

Wow.

So it's that low

like to guess again, for

per quarter point.

Is it nine?

So the correct answer is 9%,

I'm not taking any points.

5 percent from the previous year, which

Wow.

All right, next one.

After Caucasians,

Okay.

what ethnicity underwent the most cosmetic surgery procedure?

Hmm.

Okay.

Okay.

A.

African American, B.

Hispanic, C.

Asian, or D.

Middle Eastern.

Interesting.

I don't know why but like my instinct originally said Hispanic, so I'm just gonna go with that.

Very good.

Maybe because of the whole Brazilian butt lift of it all.

I don't know.

oh, interesting.

Even as the second runner up, with 1.

6 million procedures having been performed on Hispanic people, Caucasians underwent more than six times More procedures with 10.

2 million procedures having

Wow,

in 2012.

That is a lot

that is a lot.

Wow.

Okay, this one's fun.

Okay.

Sprague had plastic surgery to look more like Which animal?

A.

Horse, B.

Lizard, C.

Dog, D.

Cat,

Oh,

I hope it's dog, even though that's kind of weird and gross.

I think it would be the most like, I get it, kind of, because I like to be a dog sometimes.

I think I'm gonna guess dog.

Yeah.

Well, cat feels like another one you could do.

Maybe cat?

Okay, final guess is Lizard, but I'm not taking any points,

Lizard, yucky,

I actually didn't know, but when I knew it was lizard, I realized I had seen this person on like,

I'm like Maury or something,

Edition, yeah, and they actually, like, snipped their tongue in the

Oh, in the center, this is horrible, oh, yeah, yeah,

All right, Chelsey, which is not?

One of the four types of breast implants, okay?

okay,

Saline filled, B.

Subdermal hematoma, C.

Silicone gel filled, D.

Tissue engineered, is not

I'm gonna say B, because I feel like a hematoma is like,

hematoma.

I feel like a hematoma is like something with blood or I don't know.

I don't know if that would be what I know.

They do subdermal obviously beneath the skin, but I think hematoma is something else.

So I'm gonna say B.

Whoo!

Good job.

She's a math, a scientist.

Yeah, one of the things.

Alright, which cosmetic surgery procedure has the most expensive average surgery cost?

Okay,

A.

Breast Augmentation, B.

Facelift, C.

Lower Body Lift,

hmm,

Hair Transplant.

I would think lower body lift,

That's right,

seems like the most surface area,

so this procedure will be the most expensive due to it involving removing excess skin and fat from the lower body, including the abdomen, buttocks, thighs, and hips.

It is a comprehensive surgery that requires extensive incisions and reshaping of multiple areas, resulting in higher surgical costs compared to other procedures, such as breast augmentation, facelift, or hair transplant.

hmm, I'm doing pretty well at this game, great, love that for me,

Injecting silicone into women's breasts started in which country?

hmm,

A.

Japan, B.

Germany, C.

France, or D.

United States.

hmm,

Japan?

How did you know that?

I feel like Japan is like ahead a lot with like technology and different things and yeah I think that they're in terms of like beauty and I don't know I could see it.

Okay, we have two more, plus a bonus if we need.

Okay.

In what state were silicone breast implants first A.

Texas, B.

Ohio, C.

New York, or D.

California.

It's like they want me to say California because of Silicon Valley but is that I think that might be for something different.

I'm gonna say Cal Yeah, I think that's for tech, but I'm wondering if there's a connection.

I'm going to say California, might be wrong though.

Texas,

Everything's bigger in Texas, but Texas doesn't really feel like it would be an epicenter for something like that, but maybe New York, New York,

Texas, Texas, bigger in Texas.

Okay.

Yeah.

I thought.

Yeah, that is surprising.

Ohio said, well fuck my drag, okay,

Okay.

What portion of plastic surgeries in the USA were performed in California

Mm.

Okay.

2003?

2003.

A 50%, B, 20%, C 5%, or D 90%.

No, can't be that.

50.

Oh no.

20.

Okay.

Half.

All right, so let's do this final one.

Okay.

This one's probably the hardest though.

Okay.

This is like for the a, I guess on the test.

Okay.

How much money was spent on cosmetic plastic surgery and the year 2012?

A $110 million $1.1 billion.

C, 11 billion dollars, D, 110 billion dollars.

Ayy.

Yay.

11 billion.

I got it right!

Oh my god, so much pressure.

a total of 11 billion

Wow,

cosmetic plastic surgery.

crazy.

I bet you it's even more now.

It must certainly be.

Yeah.

good job, Queen, you

Thank you.

I got seven, I think.

I'm so proud of you.

You really, you

plastic.

I don't plastic at all.

stink at all.

Wow.

I'm just

That was a good little quiz, Trey.

Needed that to distract me.

Love that.

Review That Review,

Okay.

You ready to crown?

I'm ready.

Okay, so Chelsey and I each have our own set of zero to five crown cards.

In an effort to be fair and not influenced by one another, we will simultaneously reveal our ratings.

The Queens Are Tabulating,

Total Score,

Oh, I had a feeling I was going to have it.

All right.

I'm holding up five crowns.

I've decided to make Jan be a Review Queen.

Trey is holding out that extra half crown at four and a half.

Let us know why, Trey.

Okay.

I was gonna say Review Queen because I think it's so queenly and vulnerable to upload those very intimate photos of yourself.

I just wanna leave a little spare sense of room Because there's always two sides to every story.

I don't know.

I'm sort of second guessing it now because it's very strong.

The spelling is good.

I love the images.

They, like, spend enough time in the process before, like, posting and all of that's very queenly.

I just wonder, like, if you agreed to the procedure, Which, they say in their wordage, in the narrative, that the doctor said, like, you might get some of the results you're going for, like, if you were willing to be okay with the sum, then, I don't know,

Okay,

tough, it's almost, it is sort of review queenly, because I feel bad for Jan, and I, I believe them, but, I don't know, I'm just gonna reserve a half crown, so, that's why I said four and a half, but it's a very strong review, Chelsey, why did you say a full review queen?

I think that Jan's pretty queenly.

I see their point of view really strongly.

I feel like they're the kind of person that does their research.

They read the reviews.

They're providing evidence.

They're well spoken.

They're not slanderous.

They're hitting a lot of notes that I really appreciate.

I mostly feel like this is I'm sorry to say for the Plastic Surgeon, really influential because I feel that Jan is so genuine.

I'm definitely nervous about moving forward with this Plastic Surgeon.

And I think if I'm being honest, if I was reading through the reviews, this review might keep me from going.

And so for me, that's a Review Queen.

There's a reply!

Here we go.

I saw your review and went and looked at your chart and I saw that we extensively discussed your issues.

We discussed that your indentations would have a 50 percent chance to go away and a 50 percent chance to remain.

The fat transfer has an unpredictable outcome because your body is in control of the outcome.

You looked great at the end of the surgery, but your body decided to absorb the fat.

This is very common knowledge and it was discussed with you through your virtual consult in office consult, and your prep consent review.

You should have listened to our explanation of risks, benefits, and side effects.

We're sorry that happened to you and are here to help.

Trying to put the blame on us does not help.

Alright, well, this is just a terrible reply.

I mean, it's just so uncaring, which, this is a doctor.

And this is a patient.

Also, yes, I think a lot of people do know that, like, you will have fat loss from these BBLs, like, over time.

But, the wordage of like, your body decided to do it,

Right.

Ugh.

it's like, are you saying, like, my body

Like your fault.

Yeah.

it's totally blaming,

Yes.

really a weird approach, also I'm hearing the virtual consult,

Mm hmm.

Zoom, maybe, I don't know, I don't know when this was, maybe life was different, but, I also hear there's a virtual, there's the in person, and then there's like the consent one too,

Right.

is a lot of times,

Yeah.

It is interesting.

I just think, say that Fred is 100 percent correct in the facts.

It's such an uncaring reply.

hmm.

Also, just not even addressing them saying, I saw the review and I looked up your file.

Right.

also feels a little like invasive.

Totally.

So gross.

And I even pointed out, and we talked about in the narrative, Jan mentions that the phrase like, some results or whatever, something like, so that effect, so sure, but I all, I mean, I think the approach, the tact, all of that is such negative scoring, that I don't want to give the doctor a benefit

Mm hmm.

this is not how you should reply, it doesn't make me feel like you're gonna care for me, like, it sounds very defensive, it's a very defensive reply,

Totally.

And we've spoken about this before.

Like, it's a very hard line to balance a reply, especially when you're a doctor.

There's something about the medical field that I just think you have to be a little bit more professional.

Like, I'm sorry, but you're going to be held to a higher standard.

Standard, you're a medical professional and this review does not feel professional.

if the doctor is right

Mm hmm.

it is documented that we communicated it's a 50 50 chance,

Right.

the approach is very revealing.

Totally.

and maybe because they are in the field, like, you are probably used to having to deal with people's expectations,

Mm hmm.

sort of balancing that, and like, Trying to prepare them for like, the of like body absorption, all of that bullshit.

But like, I don't know.

I'm so turned off by this, it, it, it even me leaving half of a crown for like the other side of the story, I'm pissed and

Yeah.

I don't like the doctor's response.

Agree.

Should we crown it?

Yeah.

I could crown him.

The Queens are tabulating.

Total Score?

I don't even know why.

Half crown, half crown.

You go first, I guess.

I don't even know why I'm doing half, but I'll hear your reason.

because it, it showed me that there is like virtual in person.

You're gonna have the additional consent, which might be like the hour before you go under, but.

I mean, I think the approach and the attack is horribly misguided, but it is sort of pointing out like, just so hard.

It's so hard to be happy.

It's

Yeah.

to get it right.

There's no response to like, I felt nickeled and dimed.

I felt like, hey, let's do this other very expensive procedure to try to get closer to the result.

I don't know.

This is not the way to reply.

I said half because they at least, I don't know, You could at least work from this and like polish it, but the doctor didn't even care to do that.

So maybe it should be zero crown.

I don't know.

Why'd you say half?

The only thing I could say here is, which is not the doctor's intent.

It's really pushing me further to be like, no, no, thank you.

And also thanks for pointing out in writing this 50 percent statistic, because now I'm going to be really be thinking about that.

And when I do go to another doctor, I'm going to ask them, About the statistics that you provided.

So thank you for giving me that information.

I guess that's where the half crown is coming from.

Yuck.

with this disgusting feeling.

There's a reply!

Jan has something to say.

Okay.

FYI ladies, the doctor never told me when he replied on my review, tell me why his staff called me saying the doctor is recommending more butt massages.

Then he tells me butt injections.

I wish he would have told me I had options.

Instead of being professional and try to rectify and help fix what he did to my butt, he tries to get more money out of me?

5, 000 for butt injections on top of the 12K that I paid for my BBL.

One thing I can say is BGMG has Hella marketing skills.

The doctor, unfortunately, is lacking professionalism and procedure skills.

So sad that when we put a bad review, they get people to put good reviews to cover all the bad reviews from actual patients who have horrible results.

Stay away!

funny, a choice of word to say rectify.

Yeah, that was funny.

it's just more proof.

Like,

Yeah,

are the butt muscles?

I think maybe like that is like a shaping thing.

It seems so inappropriate and horrible and disgusting.

it's definitely a thing.

Like a lot of the reviews mention the butt massages.

Does he do them?

No, there are like, because somebody actually said like their person left and they were all upset.

So no, there's different masseuses that are doing the butt massages, but it definitely seems like there's a lot of upselling that they're using to cover up possibly just bad plastic surgery.

To feel like you weren't given all of the information before you did something is like despicable,

Agree.

and it's like your body,

Yeah.

to do that to people that are wanting a different reality is like a different level of,

And I think it, it, it points out to the number thing that Jan was talking about when she was like, the doctor didn't even reach out to me.

He just replied to my review.

Like, don't you think that that's kind of weird?

Like, why would the doctor just reply to the review and not be like, I saw that you were very unhappy.

Clearly, they don't care.

Clearly, you're just a number.

Anyway, should we crown this?

I don't think I need to

Yeah, I think my, my opinion remains the same, I'll say.

I would probably say Review Queen at this point, because

Yeah,

Jan's doing the fight, the good fight.

I like honestly try, I can't wait to hear your five star review and to determine whether or not I think that it's real or it's fake.

I have so many questions now because I've been just living in this land of one stars where I gotta say a lot of people have said similar things to Jan, so I gotta know what's going on in the five star section.

now.

I mean, that's the whole point of these verses is like trying to be balanced, but like, I totally believe Jan, which is why she probably, it really should be Review Queen for me.

but it could be interesting because I want to know now, like, is this review that we're going to be reading on the after show going to be real?

Well, here we go.

I am going to be sharing on the after show on Friday, the five star review that is from the not currently recommended,

Interesting.

Okay.

This is the real ultimate test.

but don't feel like that means anything.

That's all

Okay.

Okay.

Interesting.

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I can't wait to hear it.

Honestly, I'm, I'm really, really wondering what's going to happen over there.

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Wow, I wonder why this was said.

Why are we talking about how hot everybody is?

Isn't that interesting?

And that the doctor's handsome?

That's a little inappropriate to

and also that the doctor was like, your butt's perfect, you don't need a BBL, like maybe you didn't want to do a BBL on her because you're not good at them.

Mmm.

Wow, I wonder too.

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If you were gonna get any sort of plastic surgery, what would you do?

I'm terrified of plastic surgery, but if I was going to do any plastic surgery, it would be my arms, because I'm like the most insecure about that part of my body.

Yeah, what about my wings cut off?

You know what I mean?

My little flabbity flabs.

How about you?

I would want to get my chin.

Chiseled?

I guess that's a facelift or like a lower, just like my

Jaw lift thing?

I don't know.

I consider doing a BBL like in the COVID times.

I was

Really?

Yeah.

Wow.

So I guess my ass and my chin,

Chin and ass.

chin

And I got the bingo bangos done.

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