When someone brings a problem to your door, the first thing to ask is “is it mine to solve?” The second question is “What are the consequences if I let them solve it themselves?”
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I remember 18 years ago when my second child was about three months
Speaker:old, I was talking to a woman in the toddler group where I used to go
Speaker:every Wednesday morning with the kids.
Speaker:And she had had a baby about a month ago and it was her second child as well.
Speaker:She was very upset and annoyed.
Speaker:She said to me, I don't understand.
Speaker:I thought that being part of this group, we were supposed to get a
Speaker:meal rota when we have our babies.
Speaker:And I remember feeling absolutely awful about this.
Speaker:And I scurried off and I texted all my friends, anybody I could think
Speaker:of and said, nobody's organized any meals for this lady and we really
Speaker:need to do something about it.
Speaker:Now at the time I was having an extension done and we hadn't got a
Speaker:kitchen so I was camped out in the freezing cold using half of my sitting
Speaker:room with a sink and a microwave.
Speaker:So the last thing I could do was cook any meals for this lady.
Speaker:So I went to the local Indian shop and got some amazing curries in a box
Speaker:and sort of delivered them round to her, but spent most of the rest of the
Speaker:day trying to organise a meal writer.
Speaker:Now looking back at that, it was total madness.
Speaker:She was probably just expressing disappointment that nobody had
Speaker:thought to organise a rater for her, but as soon as she had mentioned
Speaker:it, I took it on as my problem, my responsibility that I had to sort
Speaker:out, and took on a lot of unnecessary guilt and shame and blame for the
Speaker:fact that she didn't have any meals.
Speaker:The actual fact was, she didn't really need them, she had family close by.
Speaker:They had plenty of money, they could have gone and bought some
Speaker:ready meals and stuff like that.
Speaker:But I guess she was feeling disappointed that nobody had thought of it
Speaker:themselves, and that nobody had taken the time to organise it for her.
Speaker:When I look back on it, I often wonder, why did I think it was
Speaker:something that I needed to take on?
Speaker:Why did I take the responsibility and why did I take the blame for that?
Speaker:Because there were 20 other women in this group.
Speaker:It wasn't just me that had forgotten, all of us had.
Speaker:But somehow I internalised it as my problem, that there was
Speaker:something wrong with me, and I was just really thoughtless.
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Speaker:And I think we do this all the time, don't we?
Speaker:As professionals, as people who like helping people, whose
Speaker:job it is often to help people.
Speaker:As soon as anybody expresses that they have a problem, we turn what's
Speaker:a you problem into a me problem.
Speaker:And a lot of the time people are only too happy for us to turn a
Speaker:them problem into a me problem.
Speaker:This was brought to my mind the other day when a friend of mine was
Speaker:telling me about a conversation that she'd been having with somebody else.
Speaker:And the issue that the person was expressing to her was obviously an
Speaker:issue for that person to sort out.
Speaker:And my friend had been very good at actually resisting taking all the
Speaker:responsibility onto herself and had been able to set some boundaries.
Speaker:And the phrase that had helped her was this is a you problem, not a me problem.
Speaker:And I thought, wow, that is so helpful.
Speaker:And it's early December as I record this and I know that many of us are
Speaker:going into winter pressures not only at work but at home as well with
Speaker:maybe the kids off school, relatives coming over for the holiday season.
Speaker:There's going to be a lot of people telling us that they have
Speaker:you problems that they're going to try and turn into a me problem.
Speaker:And this phrase for me just helps inoculate you from that mindset
Speaker:that, that it has to be me dealing with it because I'm responsible
Speaker:for everybody and everything.
Speaker:And over the years in our work, we've often taken on things
Speaker:that are other people's problems because we want to help, because
Speaker:we know how to deal with it.
Speaker:But often we just take on too much responsibility for things
Speaker:that are outside of our control.
Speaker:Because we care deeply about them.
Speaker:Because sometimes there are some things that we can do about them.
Speaker:And let's face it.
Speaker:Society is only too happy to let doctors and other healthcare professionals
Speaker:take on all the responsibility and all the burden for health.
Speaker:and social care, when in fact there's a huge amount of stuff
Speaker:that we just can't do, that people need to deal with themselves.
Speaker:Now it doesn't mean we don't support and offer advice, but when
Speaker:we end up taking on you problems that are not me problems, we
Speaker:end up in all sorts of trouble.
Speaker:We feel guilty when we can't actually do anything about it.
Speaker:We feel guilty that it's happened in the first place.
Speaker:We feel shame that we can't do anything to help, even when
Speaker:nobody could do anything to help.
Speaker:And we take a lot of the blame for stuff that's just not
Speaker:ours to take the blame for.
Speaker:It causes us to overwork, to forget what our own priorities are, and to
Speaker:get very muddled up about consequences.
Speaker:And I've talked about this before on the podcast, having that rescuer mentality,
Speaker:having that superhero mentality that I'm responsible for everybody and
Speaker:everything therefore I need to rescue everybody is really, really bad for
Speaker:our health, our mindset and it's really bad for other people as well.
Speaker:Because when we rescue people We keep them in victim.
Speaker:They then don't feel responsible for anything themselves.
Speaker:They go on repeating the same mistakes.
Speaker:They don't experience any consequences that make things change.
Speaker:Let me give you a really stupid example.
Speaker:The other day, my daughter didn't have any clean tracksuit bottoms
Speaker:and it was 11 o'clock at night.
Speaker:She needed them for 8 o'clock in the morning the next day and she
Speaker:had run downstairs, put a load of stuff in the washing machine.
Speaker:The washing machine wasn't gonna finish until half past 12 at night.
Speaker:And she said to me mum, mum can you hang out my washing when it's
Speaker:finished because I need those tracksuit bottoms for tomorrow.
Speaker:And I felt incredibly frustrated because I had been telling her
Speaker:for the past three days I needed to do some of her washing.
Speaker:It was all over her floor.
Speaker:I didn't know what was dirty and what was clean.
Speaker:I said, please, please, please bring your washing down so I can sort it out.
Speaker:And she just didn't.
Speaker:She said, yeah, I'll do it in a minute when I'm off my phone, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker:And it turned up 11 o'clock on a Sunday night.
Speaker:This was definitely a you problem.
Speaker:And I was very tempted to turn it into a me problem.
Speaker:I felt really bad.
Speaker:I thought, well, maybe I should have told her another time to do the washing
Speaker:and what's she going to do tomorrow when she's got nothing to wear?
Speaker:And I said, so don't you have anything else to wear?
Speaker:Don't you have any other clothes that you could wear?
Speaker:She said, Oh no, I don't have any other tracksuit bottoms.
Speaker:And I thought to myself, okay, I'm just going to have to
Speaker:wait up till the washing is finished and put it out to dry.
Speaker:Then I thought to myself, hang on a sec, hang on right there.
Speaker:what good is it going to do me if I wait till half past midnight
Speaker:to hang out those clothes?
Speaker:None whatsoever.
Speaker:I was really, really tired.
Speaker:I had a really big week the following week.
Speaker:So I thought, well, what am I going to do about it?
Speaker:And I thought, actually, she could get up at half past 12 and
Speaker:hang out those clothes herself.
Speaker:And more to the point, how are we going to avoid this happening next time?
Speaker:Because if I get up and hang out those clothes, then it's just going
Speaker:to happen again and again and again.
Speaker:So I thought about it and I said to her, I said, I'm really sorry,
Speaker:but I'm not going to wait up.
Speaker:You're going to have to set your alarm for half past 12, get up and hang out
Speaker:those clothes on the heated dryer so that they're ready for tomorrow morning.
Speaker:Was she happy about this?
Speaker:Of course she wasn't.
Speaker:But she went to bed, she said, all right, I'll do that.
Speaker:Because I knew if she didn't experience the consequences, then this behavior
Speaker:would just be repeated and repeated.
Speaker:And so often when we turn someone else's problem into a me problem,
Speaker:that just means that they avoid the consequences of their actions.
Speaker:They never learn and nothing changes.
Speaker:And we can see this on a micro level, we can see this on a system level.
Speaker:If we keep absorbing the extra work the system gives us because they
Speaker:haven't got themselves sorted out, they haven't funded it properly,
Speaker:they haven't provided enough locums or enough doctors, we're the ones
Speaker:that end up suffering, rather than making it the problem of a system
Speaker:that needs either more funding, more workers, or just to be organized
Speaker:in a completely different way.
Speaker:Now actually the next morning my daughter was going to school
Speaker:and I said to her, Hang on a sec, what are you wearing?
Speaker:She said, oh I had some other tracksuit bottoms that I just put on instead.
Speaker:What?!
Speaker:She'd miraculously found a solution, because she didn't want to be bothered
Speaker:getting up and hanging that out.
Speaker:So I'd been prepared to sort of sacrifice myself and my sleep for
Speaker:something that she could solve herself.
Speaker:So by not taking it on as a me problem, by keeping it as a you problem,
Speaker:she'd been forced to find a solution.
Speaker:And you know what?
Speaker:She's now doing her washing in good time.
Speaker:So the risks are if we keep making other people's problems into me problems,
Speaker:they don't learn and nothing changes.
Speaker:We take on all that extra responsibility on top of the stuff
Speaker:we already had and it's also very difficult for us to find solutions.
Speaker:I wasn't aware that there was a spare pair of tracksuit
Speaker:bottoms hanging around.
Speaker:But if we continue to make the distinction between something
Speaker:that's a you problem and something that's a me problem, we'll just
Speaker:have far less on our plate.
Speaker:We won't feel so guilty about everything.
Speaker:And we won't get so defensive when we actually do say no, because we
Speaker:won't be thinking, well, I should do it really, I ought to do it.
Speaker:We're able to make a positive choice.
Speaker:We could choose to take on an issue for somebody else, we could choose to help
Speaker:out, but also we could choose not to.
Speaker:And I think that is crucially important.
Speaker:Because other people can solve their own issues far better than we can.
Speaker:And I don't know about you, but sometimes when I've interfered with
Speaker:stuff and turned somebody else's problem into a me problem, I've often
Speaker:ended up making things a lot, lot worse.
Speaker:So what sorts of you problems are we dealing with?
Speaker:Well when it comes to kids, stuff like, I'm bored, I don't have enough
Speaker:money, I've broken my phone because it wasn't in a phone case or I
Speaker:didn't have a screen protector on it.
Speaker:These are very common things.
Speaker:What about people having health problems or relationship problems?
Speaker:Staffing problems.
Speaker:Or they're too busy to do stuff, or they've forgotten, or they've just
Speaker:massively overscheduled themselves, or an emergency's cropped up at work,
Speaker:which means they're stuck in other ways, maybe for childcare, or can't get to
Speaker:important meetings and things like that.
Speaker:When is it a you problem?
Speaker:When is it a me problem?
Speaker:Well, here's what I think will help.
Speaker:Firstly, do a zone of power on that problem.
Speaker:Who is in control of what happens?
Speaker:And more importantly, how much is in their zone of power?
Speaker:And how much is in my zone of power?
Speaker:The zone of power, for those of you that don't know, is a simple circle that
Speaker:tells us stuff that we're in control of inside the circle and stuff that we're
Speaker:not in control of outside the circle.
Speaker:So, if it's a you problem, there'll be a lot of stuff that I'm not in
Speaker:control of that's outside my circle.
Speaker:There might be one or two things I can do to help inside the circle,
Speaker:but most stuff is outside my circle.
Speaker:And when you look at the consequences of what happens about that, most
Speaker:of the consequences are experienced by the other person, not by me.
Speaker:So if one of my children forgets to do their homework, well they're going to
Speaker:experience those consequences, are they?
Speaker:Not me.
Speaker:And the only thing I can do about that, in my zone of power, is to
Speaker:remind them, maybe help them out a bit.
Speaker:But if I see my children doing their homework as a me problem,
Speaker:then I'm feeling responsible for all sorts of things that
Speaker:are outside my zone of power.
Speaker:Like, how much eff they put into it, when they do it.
Speaker:I have teenagers, so I don't have a lot of control over when they do
Speaker:their homework or how well they do it.
Speaker:So we need to think a little bit more about the consequences.
Speaker:The next question to ask is, does it matter?
Speaker:What are the consequences to me if this doesn't happen?
Speaker:You know, the consequences might be huge.
Speaker:They might be consequences I really, really care about, in which case
Speaker:I may well choose to take action.
Speaker:But if I'm honest, sometimes I really get bothered about stuff
Speaker:that's a you problem that I don't need to because I think the
Speaker:consequences are going to affect me.
Speaker:For example, if we go out on a winter's day and one of my children
Speaker:doesn't want to bring a coat with them, you know, I used to
Speaker:have massive arguments with them.
Speaker:I used to say, you've got to take a coat, because I knew that if they were
Speaker:cold, I'd have to give them my coat.
Speaker:I now say to them, up to you whether you bring a coat or not,
Speaker:but I'm not sharing my coat.
Speaker:And believe me, it only takes them getting cold for a little bit to finally
Speaker:realise that actually when they go out, they are going to take their coat.
Speaker:But it does depend on me not rescuing them from the
Speaker:consequences of their decision.
Speaker:Because we need to let people feel the consequences of their
Speaker:actions and their decisions without rescuing them all the time.
Speaker:This is the only way that people learn, this is the only way that
Speaker:things change or get better.
Speaker:But so often when we take a you problem on ourselves as a me
Speaker:problem, we're the only ones that suffer and nothing changes.
Speaker:There's another question I think we need to ask ourselves when thinking
Speaker:about is it a me or are you problem is is why do I care about this?
Speaker:Why do I think it should be a me problem?
Speaker:Because a lot of the time when we think we should we ought to do
Speaker:something it's because we're feeling guilty we're feeling afraid of what
Speaker:might happen, or we're feeling shame that we can't actually do anything
Speaker:to help, therefore we sort of over help and over burden ourselves.
Speaker:This is the amygdala response.
Speaker:It's our fight, flight, or freeze response.
Speaker:And often it's because we're stuck in perfectionism or people pleasing.
Speaker:So we take stuff on that we don't need to take on.
Speaker:So if I realise I'm making a me problem because I'm backed into the
Speaker:corner because I'm scared about what might happen or I really want that
Speaker:person to think well of me, like in that time where I was asked to
Speaker:provide all those meals for that lady, that's not a great place to be.
Speaker:We don't think straight and we tend to attribute everything as a me problem.
Speaker:We tend to think, oh, what have I done wrong?
Speaker:So often focusing on how we're feeling about that and the stories we're telling
Speaker:ourselves is really, really helpful just to go, hang on a sec, this might be a
Speaker:you problem as opposed to a me problem.
Speaker:Let me give you an example.
Speaker:I was in the gym the other day.
Speaker:I was getting dressed after I'd had a shower, and there was a lady
Speaker:next to me who was drying her hair.
Speaker:I started spraying some hair mousse onto my hair, and suddenly, this
Speaker:lady, who was maybe 15, 20 years older than me got extremely panicked.
Speaker:She threw the hairdryer down, she grabbed her bag, she flung all
Speaker:her stuff out of the locker, and she ran out of the changing room.
Speaker:She then came back and she'd forgotten something and I said to
Speaker:her, Oh my goodness, are you okay?
Speaker:She looked at me and she yelled, I cannot deal with spray.
Speaker:I said, Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker:She said, I have a lung condition.
Speaker:I hate sprays.
Speaker:And, uh, I sort of stood there, didn't know what to do.
Speaker:I said, Oh, it's a mousse, not a spray.
Speaker:Cause I would never have sprayed hairspray in anybody's direction.
Speaker:But she just glared at me and, and hot footed it out of the changing
Speaker:rooms and I was left really shaky.
Speaker:I was thinking, Oh my goodness, what have I done wrong?
Speaker:This was so awful.
Speaker:Ah, and I felt absolutely awful.
Speaker:Now.
Speaker:It was obviously so much of a, her problem that I could just
Speaker:stop and go, Oh, you know what?
Speaker:There's obviously something going on with her, she's obviously
Speaker:very worried about her health, did I do anything wrong there?
Speaker:Um, no, I don't, I don't think I did anything that I don't normally
Speaker:do, it's definitely a her problem.
Speaker:But so many times people have a, a difficult reaction to us.
Speaker:We take it on as we have done something wrong, it's our problem,
Speaker:when most of the time it's about them.
Speaker:It's a you problem.
Speaker:The next question to ask is, do I care?
Speaker:Do I care about this?
Speaker:So most of the time, the answer would be yes.
Speaker:And then I'll ask, how much do I care about this?
Speaker:Because there are so many issues in this world that we care about,
Speaker:but we can't carry everything.
Speaker:So, am I going to choose to do something about this?
Speaker:How important it is to me?
Speaker:And more importantly, if I'm choosing to take this on as a me problem, what
Speaker:does it mean that I can't address?
Speaker:What does it mean that I can't do?
Speaker:Because doing anything out of guilt, shame, fear means we're
Speaker:probably just adding more to our plate that we aren't choosing to
Speaker:do but we feel we ought to do.
Speaker:And that always, always displaces something else that's just as important
Speaker:but it means we're not doing, maybe like spending time with our families.
Speaker:So how much do I really care about this and what am I choosing to
Speaker:carry and make into a me problem?
Speaker:Because we can, we can choose to do stuff.
Speaker:Of course we can.
Speaker:And if there's somebody that really needs helping out in a sticky situation,
Speaker:then of course I'll choose to help.
Speaker:but so often I'm helping out of fear, shame or guilt rather than the
Speaker:fact that I've thought it through and actually I really want to help.
Speaker:And finally, when we're thinking about consequences, don't think about,
Speaker:well, what are the consequences of not helping out, of not making this a me
Speaker:problem, think about, well, what are the consequences of making it a me problem?
Speaker:Long term, what does that mean for me?
Speaker:In terms of time, in terms of energy and resources, and
Speaker:what does it mean for them?
Speaker:In terms of not actually sorting out the root of the issue, not
Speaker:actually changing their behaviour at all in the future, or making
Speaker:sure it's not going to happen again.
Speaker:Because the long term consequences are so important.
Speaker:I remember reading in a parenting book somewhere that this guy was
Speaker:at dinner with his neighbours and halfway through the dinner, he needed
Speaker:to go to the loo, the bathroom was upstairs and he found the host of the
Speaker:dinner party where she was tidying up her 14 year old son's bedroom.
Speaker:Annie took one look at her and said to her, Oh my goodness,
Speaker:I feel so sorry for his wife.
Speaker:And that was a brilliant reminder that a lot of what we do with our
Speaker:families, we're training them, we're training them for the future.
Speaker:With our patients, we're helping them take responsibility for themselves.
Speaker:And our friends, we want to be there, but we can't be there
Speaker:for everything all the time.
Speaker:Now, if you think this sounds really mercenary, then I would say that
Speaker:there are mistakes we make in this.
Speaker:We can be so Teflon that we never help anybody out, and act as a complete
Speaker:island, and never do anything that we don't want to do, just because
Speaker:everything is a you problem, not a me problem, and we can't possibly think
Speaker:that about everything in the world.
Speaker:We can't all think that climate change is a you problem, or that
Speaker:health inequality is a you problem.
Speaker:Yes, there are things we can do about it.
Speaker:But if we spend our lives thinking that everything is a me problem, that means
Speaker:that all our energy is concerned with other people's priorities and sourcing
Speaker:other people out rather than focusing on what we want to do long term,
Speaker:So I'm recording this at the beginning of December and I'm looking to the
Speaker:holidays and I can imagine there will be a few you problems that get tried
Speaker:to turn into me problems when it comes to my family, possibly my work.
Speaker:And I know for many, many of you, you've got huge amounts of responsibility
Speaker:both at home and both at work.
Speaker:So when people are making unreasonable demands of you.
Speaker:When they're moaning at you, when they're complaining, can I
Speaker:suggest the first thing you say in your head is, is this a me
Speaker:problem or is this a you problem?
Speaker:Because even if you don't say it out loud, but you're thinking,
Speaker:actually, this is a you problem, that will free you up from some
Speaker:of the shame and the guilt.
Speaker:You'll be able to decide what you do and you'll be able to cope
Speaker:with pushback a lot, lot better.
Speaker:So, work out what's in your zone of power, what's in their zone of power.
Speaker:Ask yourself, does this really matter?
Speaker:And then work out what are the consequences of you
Speaker:making it a me problem, or you not making it a me problem?
Speaker:And finally, ask yourself, what is it I actually want to do?
Speaker:What is it that I'm going to choose to do in this situation?
Speaker:So in all the challenges at the end of the year, going into 2025,
Speaker:just bear this question in mind.
Speaker:Is that a you problem or is that a me problem?
Speaker:And what am I going to choose to take on?