Imagine growing up in a stable household, being able to get good grades, move on to have a successful career, and have a loving family. For many of us, this was (and is) possibly the life that evolved for us. However, what would happen if something shifted in the series of events that would change not just the plans you have set out for yourself, but the course of your entire mission on this Earth forever? Today's guest, Brock Waluk, shares his very open story about being thrown off course, surrounding himself with new positive influences, and creating the Next Generation Personal Training brand to help empower not only his clients, but his impressive team, to regain their lives. Oftentimes, we have to step through unbelievable amounts of self-doubt and give "pep talks" to ourselves in order to carry through on our promises and aspirations of what we want to envision becoming a reality, but the short-term disciplines that distance us from the disruptors can certainly make us stronger (& wiser) for all that we set out to accomplish, even if it just for getting through leg day at the gym.

Guest Bio

Brock grew up in the small town of Wyalusing, PA, and resides in Mechanicsburg, PA currently. He grew up a good kid but had a rebellious stint after graduating high school, where he ended up being arrested and in jail a few times, but learned a lot in the process of making poor life choices. He was the first to attend a higher education university (Lock Haven) in his family. He studied sports medicine/athletic training and was married at 23 years old, then divorced at 30 years old, where during that marriage, his amazing 8 year son Justus was born. He remarried in 2022 at 37 years old to his beautiful wife Courtney, who does social media for a few local companies, including his business, Next Generation Personal Training. He started Next Generation Personal Training in 2015 and has been training for a total of 16 years. In 2022, he partnered with Ark Fitness, opening in August of 2022, growing from 2 trainers to 12 trainers, and from 70 clients to almost 300.

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Intro/Outro By: Michael Dugan, Podcast Host: Voice4Chefs

Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and

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determination all converge into

an amazing, heartfelt experience.

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This is Speaking From The Heart.

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Joshua: Welcome back to a very special

episode 99 of Speaking from the Heart.

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Now today I'm doing a little bit different

and if you were expecting a monologue

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episode, you are in for a surprise,,

because instead we have a guest being

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featured on episode number 99 in lieu

of my own monologue, and the reason why

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is because this is the eve of my 100th

episode in which I'm doing something

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very special, I decided to switch

things up, so thank you if you were

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anticipating listening to a monologue

episode, you get to hear from somebody

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that I have really enjoyed working with,

and you will see why in this episode.

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Today we have Brock Waluk with us,

and Brock grew up in the small town of

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Wyalusing, Pennsylvania, and currently

resides in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania,

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in which he had grew up to be a good

kid, but had a very rebellious stint

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after graduating high school, where

he ended up being arrested and in jail

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a few times, but learned a lot in the

process of making poor life choices.

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He was the first to attend a

higher education university, which

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is Lock Haven University, in his

family, where he studied sports

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medicine and athletic training,

and was married at 23 years of age.

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He later divorced at 30 years of age,

where during that marriage, his amazing

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8 year old son, Justus, was born.

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He remarried in 2022 at 37 years of age

to his beautiful wife, Courtney, who does

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social media for a few local companies,

including Brock's own business, Next

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Generation Personal Training, which

we talk a lot about in this episode.

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He started Next Generation Personal

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for a total of 16 years overall.

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In 2022, he partnered with Ark Fitness,

also located in Mechanicsburg, opening

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in August of 2022, where they had grown

from two trainers to over 12 trainers,

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and from 70 clients to almost 300.

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Now, there will be a very important

connection that you probably have already

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identified that I will allude to when we

open this episode with Brock, but there's

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a lot that we talked about that even for

myself, somebody that has known him now

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for a few years, my mouth dropped open

with some of the things that he had made

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in terms of those poor choices when he was

growing up, but I think that what we learn

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about ourselves, and our past versions

of ourselves, is even though that we go

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through hell, we have to find the ways in

which we need to get paid for our worth,

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regardless of the fact that we might have

a record of ourselves, which truthfully, I

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also have a record of myself, which we'll

talk about at the end of this episode, but

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when you stop believing in those voices

that are telling you no, you are going

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to be able to give yourself so much more

value than you might have never realized.

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But with that, let's go to the episode.

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All right.

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We're here with Brock Waluk.

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Brock, thanks for sharing

your heart with us today.

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Brock: Hey, Josh.

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Thanks for having me on, man.

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I really appreciate it.

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Joshua: Dude.

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I am so pumped to finally get you on

the show, and for those that might be

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wondering, "Why am I so pumped, and

doesn't this name sound familiar?"

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It's because all the way back in episode

six, when I interviewed Noah Snyder of

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Ark Fitness, there was a connection made

because of you being referenced there so

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that's where we all bridge this together,

so Brock, it's cool to have you on the eve

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of my 100th episode, so thank you so much

for taking some time to be with me today.

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Brock, I really want to start with this

question about your upbringing, because

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when I let the audience know a little

bit about you, I noticed the fact that

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you lived in Wyalusing, Pennsylvania

and probably people are like, "Where

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is Wyalusing, Pennsylvania, so do you

want to talk a little bit about your

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upbringing there and getting into

some of your early years, especially

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before you started the business?

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Brock: Sure man, so Wyalusing,

Pennsylvania is in north central, PA,

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and it's a very, very rural area out

in the middle of nowhere: dirt roads,

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cows, tractors, factory work mostly, and

one thing I'll say to keep it quick is

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that, in the biggest way, I noticed that

most people that stayed in that area

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didn't do a lot as far as chasing their

dreams, or moving forward in their life.

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It's a lot of factory work, which

I appreciate those people, because

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we need those people, but I wanted

to get out in the worst way, right?

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I worked in those factories.

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I worked in butcher shops.

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I worked on farms and I was

like, "This sucks for me."

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Yeah, again, somebody has to do it, but

I just wanted to do something different,

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right, so I was looking to get out in the

worst way, but I will say that, at times,

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it's cool to grow up in a small town.

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It's quiet, it's quaint, it's nice to

get away, but there's not much to do.

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I think the closest mall was like

an hour and a half; closest grocery

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store was a 20 minute drive, and

it was a small grocery store.

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If you wanted to go to a Walmart,

it was over an hour drive, so there

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wasn't a ton to do where I grew up.

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Joshua: It reminds me so much of my

childhood too, because I also lived

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in the boonies, but not so much where

you live because that was truly a once

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industrial place too, for sure, but

for me, I grew up around cow tipping

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and goats were herding and all kinds

of things, so I can relate dude.

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The dirt roads and all of those

things were some of my common

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occurrences as well, but I've

noticed too that you've been to jail?

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I think that's just, first off, very

opening of people because I would be very

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ashamed, but I will tell you that, from

even from my own personal experience, I've

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had my run ins with the law when I was 16

years of age, so I can definitely relate

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to having kind of a rebel side, but what

exactly transpired to get you in jail?

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Brock: I went to jail when I was 21

committed to crime when I was 20 and I'll

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kind of lead up to how that happened, and

I was mostly a pretty good kid growing up.

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I didn't get into a lot of trouble.

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I played sports, so I wanted

to keep my nose clean.

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I think I had two detentions

ever in high school.

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One of those was from not turning in

my homework, and I think one was for

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talking in class, like it was kind

of silly things, right, but I went to

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college and even prior to college, I

wrestled, I got into boxing in college,

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and I always had a little bit of a

rebellious side that was suppressed, I

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would say, probably for a good reason

and my brother was kind of the same way.

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It's interesting how I think genetics

can play a role in a lot of things,

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obviously environment too, but my

brother did a lot of crazy stuff and

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we did a lot of crazy stuff together.

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Not that I need to get into a lot of that

just; stuff we didn't get caught for, but

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I got into this habit in college where I

would go to parties, I would drink, and I

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would fight and it seemed like it was fun.

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It was, I don't know, the

kind of let out aggression.

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It was just like your typical stuff.

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Kids find an outlet, like my

parents went through a divorce.

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It was this whole thing, and I had a

girlfriend that had broken up with me

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and it was like the first heartbreak.

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It was just like all this stuff that

kind of pent up and so my outlet was to

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drink at parties and I wouldn't start

fights, but if something was about

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to go down, I was like, "Okay, cool.

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Let's do it."

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That led to multiple occasions of

that happening over probably six to

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eight months; maybe a year and a half

period, and there was a couple of close

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calls where people were getting hurt,

and cops were called, and I had never

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gotten in trouble, but for some reason

I didn't take that as a warning sign

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that something bad could happen, and I

went to Lock Haven University and it was

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my first week of- I guess it would of

been my sophomore year, and I usually

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would never go out on a Thursday night

because I was still attending classes.

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I wasn't stupid.

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I mean, yes, I was stupid as

far as some of the things I did,

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but I was showing up to class.

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I was smart with it, so it was the only

Thursday night, thirsty Thursday, that I

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ever went out, and just got super drunk.

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I was on the way home from the party,

got an argument with a guy, got in a

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fight, and then this one is the one that

did me in because I ended up fracturing

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his eye socket and his cheekbone.

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I didn't know that at the time.

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I got called to campus

security that night.

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They found out what happened or some

witnesses and they're like, "Oh yeah.

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The guy had to go to the hospital."

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I was like, "What?

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That's crazy."

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I just didn't know what was going on,

and so they let me go, but they had

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to report it to the police, right,

but the cops weren't there that night.

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The next night, I was out at

Penn State at a bar drinking

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underage with a friend of mine.

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Again, I was drunk, and I got a call on

my phone, and it was the Clinton County

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Police Department, which is where Lock

Haven is located, and they are like, "Mr.

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Waluk.

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There's a warrant out for your arrest.

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You have to turn yourself in."

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I was like, "Well, I'm out.

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I'm at Penn State drunk right now."

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I didn't say that, but I was like,

"I'll turn myself in tomorrow.",

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so I drove back, turned myself in.

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They booked me.

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They hit me with aggravated assault,

which if you don't know, is a felony,

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so I was facing three to five years in

jail, and it turned my life around.

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I was like, "Oh my God.

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This is really real now."

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I had to call my mom multiple times up to

that point of just like smaller things,

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so then call my mom to say, "Hey mom.

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I got arrested.

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You need to come bail me out.", so my mom

drove down from Wyalusing to bail me out.

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Obviously, she wasn't super

happy with me, and so I got out

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and then I still didn't quit.

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I had lost my license even before that for

an underage drinking incident, so I was

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still underage during this incident, and

then, I went on for a couple of weeks

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at school, the school found out about it.

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I got kicked out of school.

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I got called to the dean's office

and kicked me out of school,

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because it technically happened on

campus, and I went home and I worked

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construction; you know, the things

that I knew how to do at that time,

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but I still didn't make good choices.

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I went and I bought a crotch rocket,

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a high speed chase with the cops.

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Yeah, it's stupid.

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I got a gun drawn on me that time.

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Joshua: Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait,

wait, so you had the fear of going to

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jail because of the aggravated assault

charge, but yet you went and bought a

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motorcycle essentially, and you were

in a high speed chase with a cop.

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Are you serious?

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Brock: Yeah.

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Multiple cops, so it's just- I was

reckless, man, like I was self destructing

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my own life, right, and people sometimes

go down- I see it, you know, and I think

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sometimes you can't outperform how you

view yourself, and at that point in

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time of my life, I was viewing myself, I

don't even call it a loser or whatever.

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I just felt like I didn't

amount to much, so my actions

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amounted how I viewed myself.

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I was in this major self destruct

mode, and so I get in this high

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speed chase with all these cops.

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It was through the county,

and all this stuff.

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It was crazy, right, and putting myself

at risk, putting other people's lives at

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risk, putting these cops lives at risk;

first time I ever got a gun drawn on

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me, right, and thankfully, after I got

arrested that time, I'm super polite.

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"Yes, sir."

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"No, sir.", and for some reason,

the cops liked me, the DA liked me.

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They actually let me go, and

they did not impound my bike.

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I had to call my mom again, "Mom-", this

is literally two months after this other

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incident happened, I got arrested again.

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"Can you come get me?"

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My poor mother.

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Joshua: Yeah, I feel bad for mom in this

whole situation, but with all that said,

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Brock, I mean, first off, I would have

never known, and I've known you now for

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a few years because of Ark Fitness and

Noah and getting to know your personality

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and really know what you are to a core.

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This completely blows my mind because it's

not the same person that I've gotten to

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know, so, I guess my question is, looking

back, do you feel that, that old Brock

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that was going on high speed chases,

getting drunk, getting into fights, do you

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think that he lived in a life of shame?

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Brock: Yeah, for sure.

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100 percent for sure, and it's

interesting too, I'll say that

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when I then saw- cause most

people look at me that way.

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"Wow.

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I can't believe-" Even prior to me

doing that, people were so surprised

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of my actions, right, because I

was generally a pretty good dude.

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I was super respectful of people.

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All my teachers like me.

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I was a good kid, so then I'm

like going back to my town.

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I'm going to the local fairs and stuff,

and then these people are looking at me,

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because they read it all in the paper,

like all this stuff that happened.

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because that's big news in my town, right?

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It was definitely a shameful life, but

I felt like I couldn't get out of it

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at that moment for whatever reason.

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Oh, I wouldn't say I couldn't.

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I didn't want to.

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Joshua: What made you

change then as a result?

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What was the pivotal moment that made

you realize it, because I know you said

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earlier that, "Yeah, when I got the

charges, that really changed a lot of

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things", but it didn't change everything,

because you went and did it again, so

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what was that moment that, like the snap

of the fingers, made you realize, "Shit!

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I need to change something now, or I'm

going to go and have a very bad life, or

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I'm going to end up in jail for real?"

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Brock: Yeah.

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It was multiple moments along the way and

choices; better choices along the way,

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but one of those moments was the first

night I spent in jail and not to get into

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all the stuff that happens, but- and it's

not like I spent a few months in jail.

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It wasn't long, but long

enough to know, like, "Wow.

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I don't want to do that

again.", right, so-

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Brock: So when you first go in, maybe

every jail is different, and actually

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I'll say they do things differently,

and I'll tell you, but you spend, I

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can't remember what it's called now, but

basically you're like in solitary for the

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first few days, so I was in a jail cell

by myself, lights on the entire time.

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They don't shut them off even at

nighttime, so days on days, you get let

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out for one hour a day to shower and make

a phone call; at least this was their

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policy, and you can only sleep so much.

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After the second or

third day, man, I broke.

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I started bawling.

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I mean, all the emotions that were

bent up inside and I was like,

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"What am I doing to my life, right?

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That was one of those pivotal moments,

and I had a couple of those along the

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way, and while I was in there, and then

I got out and I got in more fights after

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I got out of jail, but I was making

better choices along the way, and then

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I started making better choices of the

people that I was surrounding myself with,

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because that's not who I wanted to be.

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I wanted to be different, but I

didn't know where to look, right,

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because the people at the time

in my life were good people.

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They're good people at heart, but

they're like me, right, and if I want

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to be different, I need to start looking

elsewhere and hanging out with different

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people that are making different decisions

and moving forward with their life because

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I really wanted that, so I will say

there's a couple pivotal decisions along

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our movements along the way emotionally,

but then it was just about making better

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decisions more often, and that led me down

this path of personal growth and personal

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development for years and years and years.

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That's still continuing, and

then I just found that other

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side of me, it's still in there.

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I know it's in there because not that I

get moments of angst of like, "Oh, I want

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to go back to that life.", but that side

of me is still there, and I know it's

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there, but I just kind of keep it at bay.

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Do you ever hear that one saying

about there's two wolves and

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whichever one, like it's the one

that you feed the most, right?

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Joshua: Yes.

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Yes.

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Brock: Yeah, so I just feed the

wolf thats the one that's going to

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move me in the direction that my

life should be going, right, so.

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Joshua: I've been talking about this

quite a lot, even in my own episodes

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about there's really been two versions

of me, Brock, that as I've gotten through

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and grown quite a lot that I need to

separate myself from the old version of

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who I was because I don't want to feed

that anymore, but I really want to be

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this better version of myself, so it's

really been an exploration of, like you

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said, surrounding yourself with the right

people, the right resources, the right

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sort of attitudes that will help you stay

and keep that past version of yourself at

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bay, because it is a part of us and I have

to say, I'm pretty impressed by your story

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of how that transformation has happened

for you because, first off, what you

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didn't say, which I want to reemphasize

for my listeners is that you were first

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generation essentially to go to college.

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Yeah, you were told to go to college,

but I think that is so inspiring in a

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way that you're setting a trend, like

you've always set that trend, so I've

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got to give you kudos because for some

people that I've worked with, even

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in my business, sometimes just seeing

that awareness is a big part of it.

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I don't know if you had anything

you wanted to say about that.

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Is there something that has really helped

you to see why it was really important to

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you to stay in school, despite all these

things, and being kicked out, and kind

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of going back in and getting what you

have earned, which essentially, getting

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your athletic training degree, being able

to help others with sports medicine, I

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mean, it's really helped you in what you

do now, which we're going to talk about

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in a moment, but, do you think that has

played a big role in what you do today?

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Brock: 100%, and I think realizing

what my potential could be- you

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know, I get pretty philosophical

with some of this stuff, man, like

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I hear things and they just click.

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Joshua: I think you should drop

those nuggets for our listeners,

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Brock, if you got them on your heart,

because I think that it might be

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something, and I had never heard

of anybody being in jail before.

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I think it's really profound to kind

of hear some of these things from you.

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Brock: Yeah, so there's a couple of

things that I heard along the way that

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really just made me think, "Oh, what

am I doing, and what do I want to be?"

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One of those things is that one day,

when you're at the end of your life,

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and whether you believe in an afterlife

or there's something after this, right,

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and there's been other people that

have said this, but I'm stealing this.

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It's not an original thought, but I

just like it, right, and then you get

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the gates, or whatever it is, you're in

this room and you're seeing this vision

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or this TV's flashing someone's life

before you that's you on the screen,

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but your life looks nothing like that.

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It's like all these things that this

person was accomplishing, right,

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and you're like looking at it.

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You're like, "Who's this?",

and they're like, "That's the

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person that you could have been."

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Another way to say it is the true

definition of hell is the person

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that you are, someday, meeting the

person that you could have been.

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Joshua: Wow.

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I don't think I ever thought of it that

way, even for myself, that I want to

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put that person in hell, essentially,

that I didn't want to be, and yet at the

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same time, I can say one day, "Ha ha.

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I was able to accomplish things, and you

said I could not", and that's a big deal.

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Brock: That keeps me on track.

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I will say, I have a eight year old son.

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He keeps me on track because, I mean,

one of my life endeavors is to break

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off family curses, right, and things

that are generational in my family:

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alcoholism, and abuse, and divorce, so

some of these things I've been able to

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overcome, some of them, it's a work in

progress, and I just want my son to be

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able to stand on my shoulders and not have

to go through the same stuff that I went

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through, so it's like a mission of mine,

legitimately, to defeat these demons, or

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whatever you want to call it, that have

been in my family for years and years.

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Joshua: I can't tell you how much

I resonate with that at this very

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moment, even as I go through and I

look at some of the things that have

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happened in my life and I realize, "Wow.

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I do not want to repeat the same

mistakes as my father, my mom."

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I want to learn from what they have been

through and also not repeat those same

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behaviors that got them in what they are

in the first place, which I'm not saying

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they haven't had a fulfilling life.

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Don't get me wrong, but I definitely

seen where there could be some changes

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that happen and I'm really happy to

hear that you are on the right and

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narrow, which speaking of your son, I

know that you were just remarried in the

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last year or so, or a couple of years-

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Brock: Yeah.

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Joshua: And I've gotten to meet Courtney.

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She's an awesome person.

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I feel like she's definitely

the second half of you.

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How has that been, especially with

Courtney, working with the business,

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and I know she supports you.

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She does other social media as part of her

overall skills, but how's that dynamic?

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Brock: Well, I'll say that the

dynamic between us is really great,

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right, and I think the biggest thing

of why we're so cohesive, like we

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laugh, we have fun, we have a great

time, but she allows me to lead.

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She has never held me back.

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She's always been a cheerleader of mine.

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She's believed in me, which then has

allowed me to believe in myself, and

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I think this would be true for most

men is that you spend your twenties

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trying to figure out who you are, right,

and then your thirties, maybe still

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doing some of that, but refining and

now starting to make true decisions

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of this is who I actually want to be.

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This is what I want to be defined as,

and she's helped me figure that out along

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the way, and unfortunately, obviously

I was married previously, that my first

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became the collateral damage of me trying

to figure out who I was supposed to be,

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because I got married at 23, my first

marriage, when I had not a clue who I was,

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or who I wanted to be, or what I wanted to

represent, so that's one of those demons

360

that I didn't beat, so to speak, because

my parents were divorced, and my brother's

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been through multiple divorces, all these

types of things, but it's about learning.

362

It's about growing.

363

It's about making adjustments along

the way and figuring that type of stuff

364

out, but it's been great with her, and

for her, she's still trying to figure

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out the things that she wants to do,

and I'll say that I just support her.

366

She's done multiple career

changes through the years.

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She was in the fitness for a while,

then she did a fashion blog, so whatever

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she's into, I just support her, and

people figure out along the way.

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Joshua: It's a great partnership in a

way, which actually is a great transition

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into when you started Next Generation

371

that this predated before even what we

were just talking about with Courtney,

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but I think for our audience, first

off, you do something that is quite

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unique, and I even expressed this to

Noah in episode six about the values

374

that both of you have aligned with being

co-owners together with this big vision.

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In your own words, and I'm sure that

you've probably listened to what Noah

376

had to say in that episode, but give

me your own personal take with working

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with Ark Fitness, and working with now

new clients that come through that,

378

and the expansion of your business,

because it has seen leaps and bounds.

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What has that defined for

you, Brock, in terms of your

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relationship with your clients, with

leading a team of 12 people now?

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What has that really demonstrated

for you in terms of your own

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personal and professional growth?

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Brock: Yeah, so I'll say this it was

just me for a long time as a trainer,

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and then I brought on one or two trainers

over the years, and then I met a guy

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named Yo Le, so I don't need to get into

the whole story, but him and I were the

386

foundation of Next Generation Personal

Training, and that's when this vision

387

was birth of starting something better,

and to kind of go back, I was doing

388

training for 7, 8 years before I started

NGPT, and I just saw that there was a

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huge gap in the training industry of

what was being offered as a product, and

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actually what was being delivered upon.

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I felt like the quality

of service wasn't amazing.

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I felt like people were

taking advantage of.

393

I felt like the pricing wasn't great for

what things were offered, all these types

394

of things, and so I straightened this

dream and vision of what we could create.

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What could we build, right, and

partner with the right people.

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Now, I didn't know what that looked

like, but then along comes Noah and

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through a bunch of just crazy instances

of how things worked out, him and I

398

had a similar dream and vision that

we wanted to get rid of the stuff that

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we didn't love about corporate gyms;

corporate training, and from my side of

400

things, I wanted to take care of people.

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I pair trainers very well; way above

what the national average is because

402

they deserve it, right, and I believe

that people should be able to, in

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a perfect world, do what they love,

and actually make a living at it.

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Now, it's easier said than done, right?

405

You have to come up with the business

model to be able to do that, but our

406

partnership with Ark has allowed us to

start that process, right, and then as far

407

as the education side of things with NGPT,

like I spend fifteen plus thousand dollars

408

per year dumping into our team education.

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I flew the whole team out to Colorado

to learn from a company, N-1, which is,

410

basically, the basis of where we learn

our biomechanics and program design,

411

and we just want to offer a great

product, but that's the starting point.

412

That's the starting point of

what we want to offer, right?

413

We have to actually know what we're doing.

414

It's not about just taking

people through exercises.

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We want to help them get results by

training for a specific purpose and

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actually knowing how to do that, but

on the bigger scale of things with

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having a team, I've read over the

past, I don't know, 15 years, I've

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read hundreds and hundreds of books.

419

One's on leadership, personal development,

and I literally had nothing to apply

420

that to until more recently, right,

when I had a team to be responsible for

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and people that were looking to me to

lead, and so I take a lot of the things

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that at least I learned theoretically

through books, and I'm applying,

423

and a lot of it's experimentation.

424

The biggest thing that I instilled to our

trainers is like, I want you to be a good

425

trainer, but this life is much bigger than

personal training, right, for themselves.

426

They need to pour into themselves.

427

They need to be on their

own personal growth journey.

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They need to develop themselves into

who they're supposed to be, and then

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they'll be able to pour into other people.

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If your own cup is empty, how

can you pour into other people?

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You can't.

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Joshua: You can't.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah, you can't, and everything

you said is essentially what I

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said to Noah is that it's debunking

everything that we've ever known.

436

You could go to a Planet Fitness.

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You could go to a Power Train,

which I've used to go to.

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You could go to all kinds of these crazy

gyms, wherever those franchises are,

439

but are you just a number, or are you an

actual person that has needs and wants,

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and I feel like you are the latter, Brock.

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You want to have that relationship,

and I know with working with you,

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with Yo, and even dealing with all

these different people that you have

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been able to encounter, I see that

compassion from you when it comes

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to that, even with what you've said,

but here's my real question for you.

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Brock: Yeah.

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Joshua: Although you say that you want

to have those sort of things with your

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team, and paying them above average, and

getting this world class experience for

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your clients, do you feel that there are

challenges along the way with being able

449

to have that consistency, especially

with the way fitness is, because a

450

lot of people don't take advantage of

fitness; me, myself included, because I

451

know that I could do a lot better with

working out and doing things, and I've

452

had plenty of people in the show that

are local to Mechanicsburg where you're

453

located at that have shared that, but I

guess my question is, in your view, how

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do we start changing that conversation,

I mean, you certainly you're starting

455

that with saying, "We need to pour into

the people that we're working with.

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We need to be able to help them

get to where they need to be."

457

What makes you different is

really my question to you.

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Brock: Yeah, and that goes back to,

again, the science side of stuff is

459

taking care of the training, the program

design, all that nutrition, right?

460

That's the tip of the spear.

461

That's the very beginning, so this stuff

that we're working on, continuously.

462

One of the reasons that we also hired you

to come in and help coach us and I want to

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continue that relationship down the road.

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Joshua: Full disclosure to my listeners

is that, yes, I have worked with Next

465

Generation as a client of mine to help

them get to where they need to be, so

466

yes, there's definitely, although there is

that sales perspective, I enjoyed having

467

Brock on the show for the sheer fact that

he has an interesting story, so I just

468

want to clear up any sort of naysayers

out there that might be thinking, "Oh.

469

He paid to be on the show."

470

He did not.

471

I actually wanted him to

be part of this experience.

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Brock: And I'll say this

for any of the listeners.

473

If you have a need for not just

public speaking stuff, but for life

474

coaching, and business coaching,

I hope that you reach out to Josh.

475

By the way, he didn't pay me to say this.

476

I'm just saying because

listen, it took one meeting.

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Myka and I met with you,

maybe a couple months ago.

478

It took one meeting with you to say,

"This is a guy I want to partner

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with.", like, legitimate and not just

like the short term, like long term.

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Joshua: Thank you for that.

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Brock: I just, I- yeah, man, and so

whoever's listening to this right

482

now, and this is going to continue

to grow, I hope you reach out sooner

483

than later, because there's going to

be a time when he won't be available

484

to do it himself, right, and we'll

have a team of people working for him.

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Joshua: Absolutely.

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Brock: I'm speaking it, I'm telling you.

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Joshua: That's the goal.

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No, that's speaking from the heart right

there, Brock, because that's really

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been the goal all along is that I would

love to grow this out and have people

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have the best versions of themselves,

but in any event, I'll let you continue

491

with the answer to that question I had.

492

Brock: Yeah, so we're having conversations

with our team more than anything

493

right now that it's about building

relationships with your people, which

494

is interesting because, and most of

your generic- well, they're nationally

495

accredited, but there's still generic

personal training certifications.

496

They basically tell you to

never talk about personal stuff,

497

never talk about religion,

politics, all these other things.

498

The reality is if you want a relationship

with someone and for them to stay

499

with you long term, somewhere along

the way, you might end up talking

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about all of those things, right?

501

I have clients that have been

with me for 15 plus years.

502

It's not that they don't know what to do.

503

Some of it's accountability still.

504

Some of it's like they like to be

pushed, but it's still about the

505

conversation piece that you have

along the way, and from what we

506

have seen, we have great attrition.

507

I mean, amazing attrition, as far as a

company is concerned in this industry.

508

It's way higher than the average, but

I do see that some of the trainers that

509

tend to lose clients, not because of

anything they did wrong, but a lot of

510

it is because there's not a relationship

there, right, and as interesting as

511

it is, sometimes these relationships

that you build, I want to say they're

512

therapy sessions, but you just learn a

lot about people, and sometimes we're

513

the only people they actually get a

chance to talk to candidly in their

514

entire lives, legitimately, right?

515

We're seeing people two, three,

four times, four hours a week,

516

sometimes depending on how many

times they work, so that's a lot.

517

You end up having these

relationships with people.

518

Joshua: Let's be honest.

519

That's unheard of when it comes to

going into the four or five, six hour

520

range with something like this, because

you're thinking, "Well, I only need to

521

work out maybe two, three times a week.

522

I only have to really worry about food,

then after that, making sure I keep it

523

at a level that is for my nutritional

needs.", but you're taking the science.

524

I'm literally reading

this from your website.

525

You're taking the techniques and

you're taking the science and

526

you're creating the results, but

you're doing much more than that.

527

You're building what I think is the

most important thing that we're missing

528

in this world, which is having those

relationships with others, so Brock,

529

we're almost at the end of time, but

I have this final question for you to

530

really cap this conversation because

this has been incredible for me just

531

to hear this and this is really, as I

mentioned, this is the eve, and this is

532

unusual for me to be doing an episode

right before the eve of my 100th episode

533

where I actually have a guest on.

534

I have met several dozens of people

on this program that less than a year

535

ago, I started this and I've just been

fascinated by the conversations of

536

different people and what they have

shared as knowledge and information.

537

I think for you, you have such a unique

background that has just kept you pushing

538

along, so I guess my question is this.

539

What would you say to those out there

that are just sitting on the couch,

540

they're not sure what to do to get

started, maybe they have a previous

541

record of criminal activity and they

are just shunned by society, but yet,

542

you've taken the reins and said, "No,

I'm not going to let that define me.

543

I'm going to do something

because I was given a chance."

544

What would you say to someone that

might be going through those hard

545

times, and they need that dose of

inspiration from somebody like Brock?

546

What would you say to them?

547

Brock: Yeah.

548

I would say, it would be multifaceted,

but there's a couple things that I would

549

say is that, one, you have to get started.

550

You have to stop believing-

I'm going to get emotional.

551

Joshua: Dude, let it all out.

552

Speak from the heart for with me,

because this is like the eve of something

553

big and I would love to hear what you

got to say, and so do my listeners.

554

Brock: You have to stop believing what

those inner voices are telling you about

555

yourself, and it's really, really hard,

but the only way to combat that is you

556

got to start putting good stuff in which

takes discipline, which takes effort,

557

which takes consistency, so that's the

place that you have to start, and as

558

challenging as this may also sound,

you have to change your association.

559

You'll realize that as you

continue to hang out with the

560

same people, and I get it dude.

561

They're your boys.

562

They're your friends.

563

They're your people, but if you're looking

to be different, you have to change

564

who you are mentally, emotionally, you

have to change your association, but

565

it starts with day one, and you're not

going to change everything overnight,

566

or over a week, or a month, or even a

year, but you got to start the journey,

567

right, and that's the biggest thing I

can say, and it's just continuous effort

568

and drive to want to be different.

569

Sometimes I think that's

inherent in people.

570

I really do.

571

Some of it, I think, needs to be

learned, and can be learned, right?

572

Some people have great natural ability

to do things, leadership or whatever.

573

Some people don't have

those natural abilities.

574

I did it, and again, you didn't know

me 20 years ago, right, and I'm not

575

even polished now, but I'm getting

better, but it just takes time,

576

effort, and change in association, and

believing in yourself, and listen, I'm

577

big on self talk too; all the time,

speaking to myself in the mirror.

578

Something I'll do, I'll just share

this really quick, is every night

579

before my son goes to sleep, we

have affirmations that we say.

580

He says his own: "I'm a leader.

581

I'm a champion.

582

I'm a winner.

583

I'm confident.

584

I'm bold.

585

I'm excited.

586

I'm enthusiastic.", all these things.

587

Then, I pour into him.

588

I say all the things that I see in

him, so you might not have someone

589

to say those things to yourself yet,

so you have to start saying them to

590

yourself, right, and I know it's weird,

but the subconscious mind doesn't

591

know right from wrong, different from

indifferent, so it'll start believing

592

the things that you're telling yourself.

593

That's all I have to say.

594

I think that's a great place to

start, but it does take action,

595

and that's the biggest thing.

596

Joshua: Dude.

597

I'm sitting here and I'm thinking, "Yeah.

598

You're absolutely right.", and then at

the same time, I'm saying to myself,

599

"I could have used that advice 20

years ago when I was faced in front of

600

a judge and I was being told, 'Yeah.

601

You're going to get charged with

terroristic threats, pointing a handgun at

602

some kids'", which is a whole long story

in itself, and yes, listeners, I have

603

been through that process as a kid, but

to realize that you have to give yourself

604

that pep talk of, "You are worthy of all

the good things that will ever happen in

605

your life, and that you deserve them."

606

Brock, dude, that is such a profound

thing that we miss in this world, where

607

we've had people that want to just tear

you down on Facebook, they want to rip

608

you apart with your opinions, they want

to say what they have on their minds,

609

which yeah, they're entitled to that,

but the problem with that is, there's

610

no word to describe it other than saying

that they don't have compassion, and

611

you, sir, have a lot of that, and I see

that with what you do on a day to day

612

basis, but Brock, with all that said,

I think people are inspired by hearing

613

this, so with that said, how can people

reach out to you if they're interested

614

in maybe some personal training?

615

Maybe they're local to Mechanicsburg

and they actually want to come in and

616

get some information from you about

nutrition, coaching and personal training.

617

Brock: Yeah.

618

Joshua: How can they do all that, and,

I mean, by all means, maybe they have

619

some questions for you personally, and

if you feel so bold, maybe you want to

620

share how they can reach out to you,

but in all of that, I'm going to give

621

you the last few moments to do that.

622

Brock: Yeah, so there's multiple ways.

623

One, you could reach us in person.

624

You can come to 220 North

York Street, Mechanicsburg.

625

That's where Ark Fitness is at,

and we're there all the time.

626

The trainers there know we'll be

there most of the time and to reach us

627

online, you can go to arkfitclub.com,

and go into the training section.

628

You can put an inquiry there.

629

You can find us on Instagram:

nextgeneration_PT, or you can

630

find my personal one on there too.

631

We're also on Facebook, so

we're all over the place.

632

Feel free to send me a personal message.

633

If you have a question about nutrition,

training, anything, honestly, or you can

634

put an inquiry online and we get back

to you within 48 hours, and we get a

635

lot of inquiries and we're still growing

like crazy, but we're trying to be

636

pretty prompt with our customer service.

637

Joshua: I have to tell you, you're

pretty prompt with the fact that you

638

have been through incredible amount

of things that, I think even for some

639

of my listeners, their probably mouths

are dropping open as to how you have

640

this incredible energy to keep moving

forward, but, here's the deal, Brock.

641

Not only have you survived those

tumultuous periods of your life in which

642

you've kind of been asking yourself, "Why

did I have to go through this trial in

643

the first place?", because you had an

awesome mom who drove all the way from

644

all those things to help you bail you

out when you needed it the most, but more

645

importantly, you have people in your life

that love and care about you, and I can

646

tell that because they bail you out to,

myself included, as somebody that has

647

gotten to know you, and, by all means,

gotten to know both Noah and you and

648

why you've built this incredible awesome

experience for people that I'm telling

649

you guys, if you're not going to Ark

Fitness, if you're not checking out Next

650

Generation Personal Training, you are

missing out on the next generation, the

651

next era of what fitness is all about,

because it isn't just about your mind.

652

It isn't just about the body in

which we have physically, but it's

653

about how we use all that emotional

opportunity to create the best versions

654

of ourselves, so Brock, with all that

said, thank you for being one of my

655

last guests before I turned three

digits here on Speaking From The Heart.

656

Brock: Let's go!

657

Joshua: I am so pumped

after this conversation.

658

I am honored that you've been part

of this experience with me, so thank

659

you from the bottom of my heart.

660

Brock: Thank you so much for that.

661

Thanks for having me on brother.

662

I really appreciate it.

663

Joshua: I want to thank Brock so much

for being so open on this show and

664

being part of this team, Ark Fitness,

Next Generation Personal Training,

665

the whole group, both Noah's team,

Brock's team, and even John Neifert,

666

who wasn't mentioned as much on this

episode, but also is a big, key player.

667

I want to thank the three of those

gentlemen for really being part of a

668

bigger expansion into the Mechanicsburg

area, and having hearts of gold, because

669

they certainly go above and beyond not

only in their service philosophy, being

670

able to help others and enjoy what life

has to offer for not only themselves,

671

but also their clients and empowering

them to be able to do just that.

672

I will encourage you if you are

interested to check out episode number

673

six in which we featured Noah, and

I hope to have John Neifert on the

674

show in the near future as well.

675

Let's talk about Brock for a moment

because, oh my goodness, there is so much

676

to unpack here, and I think one of the

first things that is really important

677

about what is truly necessary in our

life is getting out of the lifestyle

678

that we have and being involved with

something that we really want to

679

enjoy doing in our lives, but being

held back is really what's causing

680

it to not happen in the first place.

681

We have these genetic codes

that we build within ourselves.

682

They create habits, whether they are good

or bad, in our lives, and those thoughts

683

and those patterns keep on repeating in

our brains to the point that we're not

684

able to achieve what is truly necessary.

685

I have those genetics working

against me, time and time again,

686

myself, but I've learned that

I have to keep pushing forward.

687

I know that I have to be better, and go

through the hell, as Brock even mentioned,

688

to get to that side where we need to be

able to learn and grow for who we are.

689

Are you fighting for all the right

reasons, or all the wrong reasons, because

690

everything can go wrong and especially

when you're going through some of the

691

toughest challenges in your life, you are

definitely on the receiving end of so much

692

crap, and we've talked about that stuff in

previous episodes, about the importance of

693

not only understanding what that crap is,

but then being able to navigate through

694

it in a methodical pattern, being able

to understand that when those triggers

695

are going to happen, that you're able

to address them carefully and clearly.

696

I know for me, working with therapists,

it's allowed me to help so much with

697

understanding the true implications

of going through those sort of issues.

698

We need to be able to understand what

those moments are in our lives that might

699

change us forever, but be prepared to be

able to make a decision that might have

700

ill intended consequences down the road,

which we even talked about with Kaneshi

701

Hart in her two part episode recently,

but can you honestly say that you

702

create opportunities to change yourself?

703

Brock's team of over 12 trainers now

has been able to do all those things

704

for his clients and continue to build

on the philosophy of being able to

705

provide integrity and respect and

excellence at every step of the way.

706

Brock is somebody that I have gotten to

know over these past few years, and as

707

we even disclosed, have been able to work

together in a long term partnership, which

708

I really have been excited to develop

his team, and himself, and become the

709

best versions of themselves in their

business venture, but being able to

710

coach and being able to pull somebody

through, regardless of what those issues

711

are, can be a challenge in itself.

712

That means we have to meet our

past version at some level, and be

713

able to say that you are no longer

allowed to be here and you no

714

longer have permission to visit me.

715

We often have talked about

in this show about getting an

716

accountability partner, but Brock's

team does so much more than that.

717

As a matter of fact, and we've

even mentioned in Episode 6, that

718

these guys are challenging the

status quo of the fitness industry.

719

Instead of inviting people in for the

New Year to all join at once so that

720

then they can meet their New Year's

resolutions, they continue to have

721

the worst deal ever, making things

charged way overpriced, because they

722

know that they're also serving the

clients that they have existing, so

723

they don't pack the gyms just because

people have this fluke idea of wanting

724

to meet their New Year's resolutions.

725

They are debunking some of the things

that, even on this show, that we try

726

to debunk ourselves, which is not just

taking advantage of clients, which they

727

certainly don't do, but also getting paid

for the things that they are providing

728

and they invest so much, not just in their

clients, but in their trainers as well.

729

Brock's team has gone through some

evolutionary changes, in which I

730

have to ask you a similar question.

731

What kinds of evolutionary

changes have you been able to do?

732

Brock talked a lot about his habits

and being willing to change not only

733

the things that he wants to do on a

day to day basis, but surround himself

734

with the positive influences that are

needed, whether those are reading good

735

books, listening to good podcasts, or

even indulging in some good conversation

736

with other people, because when you

cross the barrier between what is the

737

negative, and going into the positive,

and you're changing yourself to become

738

that best version of who you are, there

is a fundamental evolutionary shift,

739

and it's a very hard process, just as

much as leg day can be when you're going

740

to the gym, and trust me, even though

I haven't been to the gym recently,

741

which I know, I'm going to get yelled

at for this episode for mentioning that,

742

and I will then be encouraged to get

in the gym, and work out with the Next

743

Generation Personal Training Team, I

will say to you that even though leg day

744

sucks, it is sometimes worth it to go

through that endurance, to go through that

745

pain, because you're using things that

you have not used in such a long time.

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It isn't just about the science

of what you eat, and also what you

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do in terms of the mechanics of

your body, and understanding the

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methodology of how to work out.

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What if you start to figure out

that you need to work out so much

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more than just your physical,

but also your mental aptitudes?

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Mentally, you have to be just as prepared

to improve yourself as you do physically,

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and Next Generation Personal Training

really does that, and that's not to say

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that I've been paid to say that, I have

seen it in action, as a casual observer,

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and being able to go to the gym myself.

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These guys do something different

than no other gym does, which is

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what I want you to do, my listeners.

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I want you to do something a little bit

different that you haven't done before.

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I want you to challenge the

status quo in your own lives.

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I want you to give yourself

that pep talk so that you're no

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longer telling yourself, "No!"

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I would not be remiss to say that

we're on the eve of the 100th

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episode now, which I've been teasing

you for the last few weeks about.

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As I reflect on this episode with

this guest, along with all the guests

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that have ever graced my presence

on Speaking from the Heart, there's

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something that really resonates with

me about the value of having that pep

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talk of being able to tell ourselves no.

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If you listen back to each and

every person, including Brock today,

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you will notice that these people

have challenged the status quo.

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They are willing to work on themselves,

regardless of what anybody else wants

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to say or do, and they're willing to do

things that normal people don't do, and

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that is, usually, work on themselves.

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That's it.

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If you're just willing to work on

yourself just a little bit each day,

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even if it's just 30 minutes, as

simple as a cardio exercise, or a leg,

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core, upper body routine at the gym.

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If you're able to spend just the 31

minutes instead, that extra 60 seconds

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of your life, if you're willing to pour

into that, can make such a big difference

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in the overall grand scheme of things.

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Let's ask the question again.

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Can you honestly say that you can create

opportunities for changing yourself?

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I don't know about you, but I

wasn't chasing a police car.

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I wasn't chased by somebody, but

I was chased by police when I was

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going through the roughest part

of my life at 16 years of age.

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You see, the most common connection

between my guest today, and also

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myself, is that I also had the

possibility of facing jail time.

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I didn't go to jail, but I certainly had

the biggest scare of my life because I was

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just not happy with who I was becoming.

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I was not happy with the growth

and support that I was receiving,

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and I was not investing in

myself, even at 16 years of age.

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That moment in my life in which I faced

a record that would have been for the

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rest of my life fundamentally changed me.

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It made me not just a better person

overall, but allowed me to fight for the

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right reasons instead of the wrong, so I

don't know about you, but you need to get

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out of the lifestyle that might be holding

you back from creating not just those

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changes that you need to have, but being

able to look elsewhere when those people

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that have been holding you back for so

long, or creating such a negative mindset

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for what's ahead, because you are worthy

of being paid what your worth is, and

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that isn't just about the monetary aspect.

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No, no, no.

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It's about the mental and physical

things that you should be paid for.

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You should be able to feel healthy,

engaged, and excited for the ideas,

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inspirations, and attitudes that you

are allowing yourself to accept, so stop

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listening to those inner voices that

are telling you no, because you are not

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being chased by the police, you are no

longer a slave to the negativity that

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exists in your life, and when you cross

that barrier of wanting to have the best

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version of yourself, not only are the

things worthy of your life going to come

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alive, but you will see what will happen

to you and others as a result of your

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amazing talents, amazing opportunities,

and the things that you employ, and hey!

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If it doesn't all work out, at least

I have a gym buddy for leg day.

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Thanks for listening to episode number

99, this very special episode of Speaking

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From the Heart, and I look forward to

hearing from your heart, in the 100th

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episode of this podcast, very soon.

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create the best version of yourself.

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