If you'd like to position yourself as an expert coach, Jo Lott shares five ways to go from coaching novice to industry leader. She emphasises the power of authentic storytelling and the importance of showcasing real case studies to connect with potential clients. Jo discusses the significance of mastering money mindset and the value of investing in coaching. She also explores navigating the coaching industry landscape, overcoming imposter syndrome, and the future of coaching. Jo concludes by encouraging listeners to trust themselves and reach out to her for further support.
The Power of Authentic Storytelling [00:02:34]
Using case studies and personal stories in marketing to showcase client transformations and attract potential clients.
Mastering Money Mindset [00:05:07]
Exploring the importance of charging appropriately for coaching services and the benefits of clients investing in their own development.
Overcoming Common Coaching Challenges
Jo talks about the common challenges facing coaches.
The future of coaching and the need for a blended approach
Discussion on the emerging trend of micro-niching in coaching and the demand for a blended coaching approach that combines industry experience with pure coaching techniques.
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Hello and welcome to Women in
the Coaching Arena podcast.
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:I'm so glad you are here.
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:I'm Jo Lott, a business mentor
and ICF accredited coach
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and I help coaches to
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:build brilliant businesses.
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:I know that when you prepare to enter
the arena, there is fear, self doubt,
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:comparison, anxiety, uncertainty, shame.
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:You can tend to armor up and
protect yourself from vulnerability.
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:In this podcast, I'll be sharing
honest, not hype, practical and
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:emotional tools to support you to make
the difference that you are here for.
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:Dare greatly.
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:You belong in this arena.
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Welcome to the 28th episode of
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:women in the coaching arena.
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:I am so glad you are here today.
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:I am creating a medley of
information using the data from
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:my most popular podcast episodes.
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:So, what are the most popular episodes?
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:Trends and predictions in the coaching
industry has been downloaded the most.
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:Next up.
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:Was four steps to tackling
imposter syndrome.
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:So if you are feeding any of
these feelings, Take that as
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:a sign that you are not alone.
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:Reaching financial
independence as a coach.
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:How long does it take.
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:13 ways to get clients today.
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:Why most coaching businesses
fail and how you can succeed and
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:finally selling to corporates.
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:So today I am pulling together.
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:Various information to really help
you to move forward, taking that data.
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:So thank you so much.
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:For listening, and it's just wonderful
to really know what you are interested
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:in so I can create that for you.
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:Here are five ways to go from
coaching novice to industry leader.
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:First up is the power of
authentic storytelling.
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:People love hearing real case studies.
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:My episodes from Natasha and Kate, my
two clients were also very highly rated
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:because I think it's interesting to hear
from other coaches and the real story and
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:actually hear them share their experience.
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:So your clients will be
looking for the same.
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:One thing I teach in my program
is the power of case studies.
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:Not testimonials.
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:No one really cares about a
testimonial that looks like it's
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:been typed by you on a canva post.
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:What people really care about is hearing
the A to B transformation that someone
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:has had on their journey with you.
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:So anything you can do to weave
those personal stories and case
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:studies into your marketing
will be really, really powerful.
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:One of my clients often
does this in her marketing.
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:If you can share the real story
and I know your clients might
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:not want their names shared.
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:But my client, he does this
often really does the rewards.
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:Here's an example.
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:Before working with me, Zoe spent a
lot of time in her head debating what
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:course of action was best to take.
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:And hadn't really crystallized how
to go about building her business.
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:This led to frustration, poor use
of time and started to impact on
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:her self-esteem and motivation.
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:We worked on Zoe's offer and
she successfully sold her group
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:program, which has brought, her
20 emerging leaders to coach.
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:We worked on what sales strategies and
marketing are a perfect fit for her.
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:We covered how to use LinkedIn
effectively, how to use Canva, how
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:to create lead magnets and email
nurture sequences using mailerlite.
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:So she also gained the back office stuff
to ensure her systems were effective.
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:By at the end of our programme zoe was
really clear that she was selling to
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:businesses rather than individuals..
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:She sewed into two organizations in
our six months of working together,
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:along with some individual clients.
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:She now knows exactly how
to market her business.
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:She has had that mindset shift
from her business, being about
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:her, to her business, being
all about her ideal client.
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:Alongside her current 20 emerging
leaders that she is coaching she
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:also now has a pipeline of interested
organizations who she is nurturing.
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:More likely to gain another contract
when her current contract finishes up.
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:Zoe said that despite 15 years
marketing and insights experience,
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:this isn't something she could have
done on her own and she has made so
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:much progress in such a short timescale
working with me through this program.
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:So there is me modeling how you can
showcase your client stories rather
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:than anything about the person saying,
you're a really great person and you've
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:got great listening skills and you hold
great space because sadly your paying
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:client doesn't really care about that.
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:They care about the thing that
is their top of mind, problem.
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:I hope that helped to hear how you can
make those testimonials into case studies
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:and make them way more powerful so they
actually convert followers into clients.
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:Okay.
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:So Step two is mastering money mindset.
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:This was another popular episode
alongside the, how long is it
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:going to take me to reach financial
independence as a coach episode?
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:I definitely struggle with money
mindset and it's something I have
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:worked on and consistently work on.
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:I'm not sure you ever get to the place
where you can stop doing this work.
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:On really acknowledging what a gift
it is that I am giving to people.
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:I have personally night tests that
when I m undercharging I am kind
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:of resentful or I'm holding back.
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:Whereas when people join my program,
it's like they are in my world.
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:They are my family.
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:And then I feel that what they are paying
is enough for me to be able to show up
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:as my best self and be able to provide
the service that I want to provide.
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:You want to be able to do the same.
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:What I also notice from my program and
I am so, so lucky that nearly all of
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:my clients show up every single week.
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:So the problem with the membership model,
which I don't personally like, because
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:I am part of, I dunno, four memberships.
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:I can't quite recall.
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:Far too many that I should cancel.
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:But I just don't login and
your clients will be the same.
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:Yeah, you might get that one that
prioritizes a low cost membership
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:or a free coaching session.
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:But you will have so much greater success
when people have actually got skin in
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:the game, they've actually invested a
good amount of money to work with you.
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:So they will show up,
they will take action.
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:They will get way better results.
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:So yeah, it's been a journey for me.
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:Whilst there is the odd exception cause
I do NHS leadership coaching, which I
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:absolutely love, the employee doesn't
have to pay obviously, but the people
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:I have coached through that have been
the most committed, amazing people.
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:So it's not always the case.
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:But when you are trying to do favors
for people and reduce the cost in my
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:experience, it doesn't help either of you.
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:Third topic today is navigating
the coaching industry landscape.
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:In the trends and predictions in
the coaching industry episode three.
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:I shared my own research of how
many coaches there are out there.
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:In December, 2020, when I searched
LinkedIn for the word coach,
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:there were 1.6 million results.
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:A year later, December, 2021,
it had gone up to six and a half
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:million results for the word coach.
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:And when I last searched in
March,:
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:results for the word coach.
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:So in just two short
years, It has grown 407%.
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:People calling themselves, coach.
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:And I realize it is an
unregulated industry.
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:So not everyone may be actually coaches,
but this is what you are up against.
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:If your ideal client is looking
for a coach now, this is
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:why we need to up our game.
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:Niche down and be something to someone
versus being just another coach
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:out there who can't differentiate
yourself from the marketplace.
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:Nearly everyone joins my program
without a niche, or some people
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:might think they have a niche, but.
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:It's not my idea of a niche.
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:And I have seen the greatest
success with those who are brave
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:and courageous enough to niche.
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:And often it is a journey.
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:Zoe, for example, who I mentioned
earlier, went from working with agencies
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:to working with insight agencies.
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:So you can micro-niche.
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:And then before you know it, if you are
an insight agency, There is no one else
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:you would want to work with because,
Zoe specializes in Insight agencies.
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:So if they are comparing Zoe
to another coach who is just
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:a general leadership coach.
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:They're going to think, oh, Zoe
obviously gets our industry because she
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:specializes in our type of organization
and it has paid off for her as I
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:mentioned earlier, she has gained those
corporate clients and the best thing
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:is now she has insight agencies on
her books and many other relationships
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:with insight agencies building, she
will become known in that industry and
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:soon start to get referred for work
without having to pitch for it as such.
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:So, yeah, it's super exciting because
I think the hardest part is obviously
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:gaining your fast few contracts and
then you can become a bit more known
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:and you will start to attract that work.
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:Our fourth point is overcoming
common coaching challenges.
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:The episodes that prompted
this point was episode 23.
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:Why most.
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:Businesses fail and how you can succeed
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:and episode six four steps to
tackling imposter syndrome.
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:So on this one, I think it's about
courage, which is one of my top values.
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:It does take courage to choose a niche, to
create an offer, to decide to be something
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:to someone, rather than nothing to no one.
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:To take a stand.
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:To share your views.
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:And that really is what it
takes to build a business.
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:If you are being vanilla, sadly, you won't
be able to attract people's attention.
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:And I know that feels really hard.
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:It's not a natural thing for me either
but all we can do is really tune into.
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:What you have got to say and
how you can help and what you
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:would love to hear from people.
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:I just saw a post online
right now on LinkedIn.
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:Oh sharing, you know, the highlights of
the week and their low lights of the week.
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:So that's interesting because you're like,
oh no, they lost a contract this week.
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:Oh gosh.
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:poor them Because usually you
only ever see the highlights.
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:So anything you can do to really stand
out, do something different, have an
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:opinion will really, really help you.
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:But then comes the imposter
syndrome, which often stops this.
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:Because then you may think,
who am I to do this work?
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:Who am I to have this opinion
because there's people out
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:there with PhDs in the subject.
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:I looked up the start once, which is
something like 82% of the world's data
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:has been created in the last two years.
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:So whilst we may think of
an expert or someone who has
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:studied this field for 20 years.
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:Things are changing and everything
is so much faster paced.
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:You can become an expert in 12 months.
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:If you go all in, share your
research, share your learnings,
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:share the things you're reading.
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:Keep talking about your particular
topic and you really will position
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:yourself in your industry.
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:If you are brave enough
to choose an industry.
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:So know that your skills and experience
have positioned you to do this work.
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:I don't have a marketing degree,
but what I do have is real life
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:experience of learning this on the job
and marketing my coaching business.
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:I have worked with marketing experts
who are unable to help because
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:they don't understand what coaching
is and how you need to sell it.
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:And that is my unique strength
from doing this myself.
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:In executive coaching, career coaching,
business coaching, and now helping 65
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:plus coaches in a paid capacity to do
this plus many people on my podcast
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:and trainings and discovery calls.
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:So I have gained that experience and
I have positioned myself as the expert
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:because I'm sharing my learnings whether
they are from a study of thousands of
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:people over thousands of years or whether
they are my real life experience from
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:last week and the client I helped and how
I saw what we did impact her business.
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:So, I don't know about you, but I
would much rather that real life
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:experience than textbook experience.
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:So know you have everything within
you right now to offer to people
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:and everyone feels just like
you with the imposter syndrome.
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:That is my greatest learning of
becoming a coach is that we all feel it.
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:So we might as well just get over it
and start being ourselves and showing
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:up as our authentic version of us.
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:My fifth point was the future of coaching.
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:What's next?
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:From my experience.
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:I am noticing is micro-niche.
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:I know niching is hard enough,
let alone micro-niching.
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:But as I've alluded to in this episode,
that is where I have seen my clients
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:gain the greatest level of success.
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:I also think there's a way more
blended approach to coaching that
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:people really want, because what
I've been hearing from my clients is.
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:People are coming to me because
I have their experience.
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:And then I'm doing this pure
coaching thing where I'm not
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:sharing anything with them.
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:And I'm starting to feel like they are
getting a bit frustrated and saying, I
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:chose you because you're from my industry,
you know, the challenges I'm facing.
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:And I'm just like feeling a bit
frustrated that I'm not getting more.
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:So I do think sadly, because that is
not what we learned in coach training.
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:I appreciate, I am an ICF accredited coach
and I do know the rules, but sadly, if
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:this is what the market wants, and this
is what your ideal client want, you might
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:want to play around and find a way to
deliver what they want to move forward.
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:I know I have a business coach who takes
a really coachy approach and I must admit
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:it does drive me nuts because I think.
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:I've kind of come to you
because you've grown your team.
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:You've done all the things I want to do.
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:I just want you to sort of send me your
spreadsheet of like, what do you delegate
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:to your team and how do you do this?
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:And often she takes a more coach approach.
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:So, yes, well, sometimes that's great.
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:And I do have another coach who
is more of a kind of pure coach.
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:But I think depending on what you're
going to that person for, you may need to
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:really think why are they coming to me?
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:Is it because I have industry experience?
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:And insights that I could share with them.
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:And if so, Oh, am I going to
work this out with that client?
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:So let's summarize today's episode.
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:First, we talked about the power of
authentic storytelling, how you can weave
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:those case studies into everything you do.
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:Next up, we talked about money mindset
and how people paying for coaching
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:is actually a good thing for them.
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:As well as for you.
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:Next, we talked about navigating
the coaching industry landscape.
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:We talked about trends and
predictions in the coaching industry.
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:How the amount of coaches
has increased dramatically.
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:And so how you have this huge
opportunity to stands out, make a
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:difference, be something to someone.
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:Next we talked about overcoming
common coaching challenges.
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:Like being courageous enough to niche and
courageous enough to share your message.
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:Overcoming that imposter syndrome.
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:Knowing that everyone feels like that.
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:And you just need to be yourself
and really, really go for it.
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:Finally, we talked about the
future of coaching what's next.
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:And I shared that what I'm
seeing is that trend of people
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:wanting more than pure coaching.
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:And so to be innovative in your
approach, figure out ways that
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:you can navigate this challenge.
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:So, thank you so much for joining today.
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:This episode, combined the elements from
your most favorite podcast episodes.
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:If this episode was helpful, Drop me
a line on LinkedIn as Joanna Lott.
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:I would love to hear from you.
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:Or leave me a review and I will
pesonally thank you for that.
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:Like I say at the end of every
episode, trust yourself, believe
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:in yourself and be the wise Gardner
who keeps on watering the seed.
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:Get into the arena dare, greatly and try.