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I write characters
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the way that I wish they existed
in the world, It's so realistic.
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But it's not reality.
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I think there's a truth in it.
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If you want to read Robby's play,
before you listen to the rest of this,
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There will be a link to it
in the description,
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and if you have ten minutes,
you will get to experience
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the full array of human emotions.
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I know you, she said.
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That shouldn't just be between us.
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You need to say that out loud, too. Yeah.
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I hate plot so much, but I love stories.
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That's awesome.
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And it's so true.
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Yeah.
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the fact you just have instantly handed me
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something that has kind of no plot,
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but lots of story is tickling me
to no end.
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I love this play so much.
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what's the story to both of you two?
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since there isn't, like jumping off
buildings.
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Plot, plot plot.
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You have the phrase singing hymns
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in the church of the obvious.
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It's such a mythical, apocryphal
sounding phrase.
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I want to hear how you got to that,
because it is magical.
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When and how do you know
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when something is finished?
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What was that moment for this?
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For him.
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So the obvious.
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I know when I'm willing.
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once I take the first step to make it
a reality.
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That's very funny,
because I was walking through a gigantic,
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cathedral
to capitalism today called Hudson Yards.
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Surrounded by
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people who are very good at business
and very good at corporate things.
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And I just kept mumbling,
wow, I am not good at business.
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So it's very funny to hear you say,
oh, coal is good at business.
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but, like,
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It also.
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just because of like
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I forgotten what I was going to ask you.
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Everybody, Oh, the voices in your head.
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I'm wondering how you, Affect.
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How the dialog ends up
sounding to other people
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in the real world.
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Yeah.
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Let me ask that again.
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It's, you know exactly how you want dialog
to sound in your head.
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You can hear it in your head
in a certain rhythm, in a certain cadence,
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or in an exact rhythm
and an exact cadence.
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But once you've written something
and once you're interacting with it,
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and once actors are speaking it,
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it may not sound the same.
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How do you either deal with that tension
or how do you affect.
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The final outcome of how it sounds with
how you wrote it in the first place?
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but. my friend.
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You have done a bookend and repetition.
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How dare you! Oh. Yeah.
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And then,
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this bit of repetition
and the idiosyncratic nature of it
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is the number one thing about the play
that makes it such
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a perfect representation
of the format of a play itself.
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Like in their,
I wish I knew this for real, but like this
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the Greek sense of there
is something innate in a form,
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and there's the perfect idea of this form,
this recurring bit
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that you do is very close to,
like the perfect form
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of a play.
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loved it.
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Because it's not realistic in many ways.
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Like if you walked into a town
and people actually did this, you're like,
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what's. Why?
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Oh, really?
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I grew up in freaking
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In a more complimentary
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way, I should say that
my notes about this was.
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It's so realistic.
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But it's not reality.
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Let me ask
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Robbie's question
in a different way as well.
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How would you go about writing a wizard?
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And what would the wizard sound
like in your head?
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Yeah.
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What's your favorite line from your play,
Robbie? Wow.
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I have never met someone who hates ducks.
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I've been attacked by geese
multiple times, and yet I don't.
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I know, duh,
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It's in.
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Character.
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It's a perfect natural title.
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now my favorite line is going to sound
pithy, but, Janice
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the grandmother has just called somebody
a moron.
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Very bluntly, and it's been noticed.
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And Janice clarifies with
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she knows where I stand.
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those blonds,
as I've heard a character be.
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But keep it realistic within the world.
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And I always want my characters
to be blunter and blunter.
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But they teeter off the deep
end of believability.
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When I get to that.
Something like that. So I loved it.
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Is recording is through an iPad
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and sending a message from a nursing home
back to somebody a normal thing?
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Or is that, like, a huge story decision
to say these people are so just.
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She's so disconnected
from her granddaughter
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that they are not going
to pick up the phone and call.
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Well, they definitely.
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Yeah,
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you know, or someone
who can really be bothered by it, but I,
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I mean
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it was not a book.
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Call.
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It was the opposite of poking holes.
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It was saying it's such a distinct choice,
because obviously,
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There's no way in on unearth. that.
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You didn't have the thought.
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People pick up phones and call each other.
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You're not helping.
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Stop talking.
These two people just said he. Didn't.
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don't.
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Obviously nothing.
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Obviously. No. Jabroni.
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You wouldn't think,
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I actually did not
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Does it help if I say No.
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that it came off as profound?
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Yeah. It did.
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I agree, it felt like a very
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I'm so sorry.
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Obviously,
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What do you mean by a media?
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I'm sorry. I.