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Episode 24 • 10th November 2025 • QUEERNECKS • Queernecks
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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Welcome

to Queernecks, the podcast that

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puts the yehaw in y'all means all.

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I'm your host, Beck,

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400:

and I'm your host.

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Dash.

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Welcome to today's episode.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: We

are both wearing orange today.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I know

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

It's Falcon Friday here

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: when I first

came to work there, student affairs

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at most universities is kind of like

this, like they're supposed to be

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the cheerleaders of campus and stuff.

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And so Tobias was like, we

gotta get you some, swag.

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So he took me to the bookstore there

and bought me the most like, comfortable

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hoodie I think I've ever owned.

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It was like, just really fancy,

athletics, um, hoodie And I, you sat

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down and I saw that, I just realized

I haven't seen that hoodie in forever.

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I wish I knew what happened to it.

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I've had a lot of housing

instability between then and now.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: I

wore this with a orange and

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brown flannel that I have.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: aren't

orange and brown, just kind of

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like, that's, that's a strong

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

Yes, very much so.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400:

Oh, look at this.

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I'm in my recliner.

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I can't sit, I sleep in this thing.

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someone found out that I, you know,

needed, furniture and we had worked on

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a project with them over the summer for

Morris Pride and so I was just over at

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their house doing planning or whatever,

and I turn around, I hear like, open up

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the back of your car, and I turn around

and like their sibling And, and like

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their, I think partner were carrying

this recliner out of the hou out of their

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house and like loading it into my car.

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And I was like, oh my

God, thank you so much.

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And they were like, we

just, we needed rid of it.

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And there she was like, do you like it?

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And I was like, yeah,

mean it's a free recliner.

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It's the be most beautiful

thing I've ever seen.

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And I was grateful then, and

I'm like twice as grateful now.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

Yeah, I hear that.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: But,

um, last night though, so I'm

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like, you know, math is hard.

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math is especially hard when

you're on three different,

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medications that make you stupid.

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So I'm on a really high

dose of Gabapentin.

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It's like, uh, kind of the max, right?

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they can't go any higher.

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It's 1800 milligrams a day.

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and so I take it three times a day.

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And because they titrated me up at

first, I started out on a lower dose.

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So I have two different

strength, capsules.

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night I was, went to take my dose

and thought I had the 100 capsules.

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And so I counted out enough to get

up to my dose and I had the 200 ones.

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and I realized it as soon as they

went down because that's always

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the moment you realize when you've

done something that's stupid,

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Right.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: the

second it's too late to do.

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so I do the thing that, you

know, folks who, um, dabble in

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substances do, which is Google, the

maximum amount of this I can take?

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And Google was like, you're gonna have a

weird night, but you'll probably survive.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Did

you in fact have a weird night?

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I sure did.

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and I told everybody, I texted like,

you know, Sabrina and Claire and,

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and you know, anybody who might

wanna get into contact with me.

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Like, this is what just happened.

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I've looked into it when I

come to, I'll let you know.

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and yeah, I was sitting here in

front of the TV and I was like,

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yes, it might, it might not,

might not be that bad or whatever.

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And then next thing I know, it's 2:30 AM.

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I am like, crashed the

fuck out on this recliner.

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I don't know if I had tried to stand up

or what, but I made it back down into it.

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But not in like the appropriate,

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Configuration.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: this was

not the factory model, and know that

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I had been, I don't know, like my, my

mouth had been wide open, so it was

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not like normal sleep because this

is not how I sleep because everything

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down to like my gullet was bone dry.

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And so I had just been,

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Not your.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: and what was

I, was I talking, was I making noise?

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Did I look like the girl

in the closet in the ring

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all day?

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I've been just having this image

of what I must have looked like

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in this recliner for six hours.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: When

Shana and I first left West, West

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Virginia, we moved to Hamilton, Ohio.

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And we just, it packing, we were

up for days and we were exhausted.

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we had already lost our

mind like three times.

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We passed one of those restaurants that

just has a big sign that says restaurant.

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And we thought it was hilarious.

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And we laughed about that

for like an like, laughed our

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heads off for like an hour.

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so we got there and we got everything

unloaded and we, you know, everybody

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left and we got the futon set up in

the living room and we sat down and

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we're like, all right, we're gonna go

to the store and like five minutes.

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And we sat there and the next thing we

knew it was eight o'clock the next morning

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I had fallen asleep sitting straight

up and Shana was asleep on my shoulder

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and we didn't move for like six hours.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: That's,

that's the good sleep though.

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You know,

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cause that's what I thought.

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Like when I noticed like my mouth was,

the driest ever been like, between

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the tongue and the cheek were dry.

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I was like, this is what a

dead person's mouth feels like.

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But this morning I was like, I think

I'm gonna skip my morning dose.

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But

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One thing that has been

like, kind of a challenge.

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It's like downstairs, there's no bathroom.

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It's

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Oh wow.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400:

it's an old house.

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And so it uses, it's a lot

of like gravity in Jesus that

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makes the plumbing, Function.

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There is a basement, and there

was a teenager living down there

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before I bought this house, but I

don't know how it's the dankest.

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Well, he was high all the time.

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we came to look at the house

and just found weed and bongs

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stashed in the basement.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: That's

the thing about being a sooner you

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forget your shit when you move.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: think

I, I'm probably gonna wind up being

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one of those like, gummies the

edible things for pain management.

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'cause I am not, remember loving

narcotics, I remember loving

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the sensation of all downers.

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was afraid that, you

know, would be rekindled.

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it hasn't been really, I've,

I've found it kind of annoying.

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not that it doesn't still make you

feel good, 'cause it does, but you're

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also just sort of like, oh god,

now I'm too stoned to do anything.

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I'm old, are not for the old

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Right.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: 24.

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party at 44.

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of my day is ruined.

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I need every ounce of energy it is

could get just to do normal things.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: I am

going to see my aunt tomorrow,

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Oh yeah.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

I'm very excited about that.

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It's my mom's sister.

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I haven't seen her in well over a year.

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she lives about three hours

away, that'll be good to see her.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I had to

cancel my flight home for Thanksgiving.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Aw,

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Yeah,

there's two very good reasons to do it

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though.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: right.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: One,

I've gotta have surgery and my

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brother-in-law is in transit right now.

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He was traveling for work and got

caught with all of this, uh, TSA,

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the shutdowns and stuff like that.

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he's still not made it home.

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He is been stuck at, Reagan

International Airport, for a day.

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I think they just keep delaying,

delaying, delaying by huge chunks of time.

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He sent us a picture of you know, the

screens in the airport of the flights.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Mm-hmm.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: it was

at least half red canceled flights

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Oh, wow.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: when I logged

into, I use like the, those discount apps

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to get, tickets like Kayak and Expedia.

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When I logged in to cancel it had

a message up that basically said I

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hope you ain't buying no tickets.

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Woe be Tide you if you

trying to go anywhere.

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But I was like, God damn, this is serious.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah,

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: And

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: it's,

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I mean,

so we found out today that they are

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gonna pay out the SNAP benefits.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: but I,

I've heard a couple of different

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things though, scenarios.

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One, that it's gonna take a couple

of months to get out the, the

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aid that they're giving them.

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You know, that doesn't

help anybody right now.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Yeah.

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There's, Some people have,

received in their account their

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funds and some people haven't.

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But how about them elections though?

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: my, my

students were very hopeful about them.

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I thought that was great.

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When I start class, I always say,

how are you guys doing today?

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Is there anything you wanna talk

about on campus or in the news?

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You know, because sometimes that

gives us some good conversations.

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And, uh, somebody said to, uh, today

and yesterday in both classes, that.

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They were really excited about Mamdani.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: It is.

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Isn't that interesting how, It's not his,

his election is not necessarily directly

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influential on any national, thing.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: right.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: But is

something about that representation

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just having, just seeing something

like that happen that very well

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could influence the nation.

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And it wasn't just him either.

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Like, Virginia, what was the other one?

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Was it Georgia?

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: That's

the one that came to my mind.

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So it must be.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: other

state there was several wins.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Right,

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: So

if nothing else, even if it

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doesn't come to anything directly

influential, it's got people thinking

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: I

read that somewhere that, um,

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10 governors are now women.

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That's 20%.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: that is cool.

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And then the old white

men are just falling out.

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Did you see the, the

press conference with the

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Mm-hmm.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Lilly exec?

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

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And Trump's just standing there.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Well, he

was asleep in the chair until that

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happened.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Oh, wow.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: there,

the full video is out there.

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And I just got saw some photos.

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He was sitting in that chair the whole

time he was sitting in that chair.

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was in some state resembling this hands,

trying to hide, I guess but then it, it

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eventually, his hands fell away and he was

slumped in that chair like this, just out.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

Well, he is 80 years old or 79.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: and unwell,

my papaw at 80 was running up and

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down the hills of Jellico and running

tractors and maintaining two properties.

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it isn't only his age, although, that is

an age, it's a, it's a benchmark for sure.

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But he has clearly led

a life of debauchery.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: The

stories of his drug use from people

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who've worked with him are shocking.

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I have to, I mean, like, so much about

him would actually be kind of baller

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if he wasn't such a fucking cunt.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

I agree completely.

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We're talking about RFK, right?

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I don't,

you know, I don't know much about him.

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I had a friend who, um,

he's one of those, like, he.

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Constant libertarian bros.

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and libertarian, this is a different

subject, but where are libertarians now?

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You know, but there was a time, a

long time there where I had a lot of

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libertarian friends who would say that

they had that whole line of the two

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party system is broken, apparently

to them means we should vote for

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whatever fucking reject shows up that

doesn't align with either one, no

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matter how stupid and shitty they are.

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So I had a friend who was, he would send

me like RFKs town halls from BEF when he

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was trying to run in the 20, 24 election.

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And I was like, are you trolling?

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What is this man even talking about?

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And he got mad and he was like,

well, his, at least he's not Biden.

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And I was like.

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My foot's not Biden.

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Right?

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There's a pile of shit over

there that is not Joe Biden.

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Let's write that up on the ballot.

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I think hopefully after so long of

that being an, uh, a demonstrably

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stupid way of selecting a candidate

that those folks are done.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah, I just,

I, I have been trying to distance myself

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from politics for the last week or so.

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I just needed a mental break.

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I've, I've kept it abreast of like

the Facebook, what gets through on

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Facebook, and that's just about it.

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Like, I didn't even read

Heather Richardson this week.

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Like, I, I just needed a break.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Yeah,

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

So I think that's allowed,

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: absolutely.

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I've been, diving into movies and

stuff trying to think like, what is

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something that I never finished because

I got to, there was a lot of TV shows

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that I just stopped in the middle of.

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I went through a long period I would watch

a movie halfway through and then my mind

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would be racing and I'd have to turn it

off and get up and do something else.

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so I've been going through my

streaming services, looking for the

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stuff that I hadn't finished So I

finished Alien Earth last night.

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really liked it.

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It is weird as hell.

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It's doing something.

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I mean, and Alien is a, as a

franchise is very interesting to me

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because it has so many different.

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voices in it.

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every film was written and

directed by a different person.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

I've never seen any of those.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I mean,

course we all want everyone to see and

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experience our favorite films, but I do

think Alien, that's top three for me.

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Top three

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Yes,

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Nice.

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How violent is It

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: very violent.

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my, my drawback.

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I just,

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: okay,

let me, let me put it this way.

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There is one scene that

you, you will find upsetting

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because that's its job.

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But other than that, 'cause it was

filmed in 78, I think, and released

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in, in 79, something like that.

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It was filmed in the,

in the late seventies.

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So they had to do, they were doing

something like really kind of

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wild and experimental with limited

resources in terms of techno,

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like special effects and stuff.

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So everything had to be practical

and the monster was really huge.

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Instead of having to build this

giant monster over and over and

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over again for every scene it

was in, they shot around it.

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So they created the horror through this

absent presence . They show the monster

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a couple of times so that we know what

it looks like and we are afraid of it,

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and then we hardly ever see it again.

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And we stay with the characters who

are trying to sneak around this ship

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and stay safe from this giant alien.

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But to establish the fear, there is

a couple of really violent scenes.

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that was one of the first

dates my dad took my mom on.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: wow.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: the

scene I'm telling you about the

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scary one, she like flipped out

and threw popcorn all over him.

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So for one of their like big

anniversaries, I bought them the,

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Blu-ray of Alien in a bag of popcorn.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

Aw, that's cute.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Yeah,

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: I can't

think of any movies that signify like

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that that much in, in like my family

though, we always did use one line from

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that movie Short Circuit and I always

forget that other people don't use it.

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df.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I Where you

said that to me and I was like, what?

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

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It's where he gets his wires

backwards and he is trying to say,

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okay, Fred, and he says, Koko Dorf.

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And that's, that's something

we use to this day.

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Like I still use it as, you know,

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Yeah.

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when we got the VHS of the Little

Mermaid, we wore that thing out.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah,

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' dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: cause

it was the first VHS we ever got.

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And for the longest time

it was the only one we had.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Aladdin

is my favorite Disney movie.

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The original, not the remake,

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: okay.

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What, what made, what

does it stand out with?

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: the Genie, the

Robin Williams part is my favorite part.

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He's great in that.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: there's a

handful of people that I never met and

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will never meet that I'm to have shared

time on Earth with, he is one of them.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah, for sure.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400:

David Bowie's another,

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah,

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I mean, we

lived in the time of Michael Jackson.

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that amazing?

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: We could

have been born, I would've said in the

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time of dinosaurs, but I'm not an idiot.

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I know that humans and

dinosaurs never coexistent.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Oh, have

you been to that arkor is it the arc

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: No.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: that's, I

haven't either, but I've, I've seen,

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um, a YouTube, or I really liked named

Fundie Fridays and she went to the

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arkMuseum and filmed it, so embarrassing.

351

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It's in

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Kentucky

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too, isn't it?

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

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Yep, You gotta love people that

actively enforce ignorance on people.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Tax free too.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: I have a

friend, I went to a small school, so

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when you go to a small school, you're

friends with like everybody you know.

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And so there was this girl, and she

was on my softball team and, um, her

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sister was on my softball team and

we hung out and I stayed the night

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at her house a couple of times.

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we just, you know, we

were friends or whatever.

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And she has become a

quiver full kind of mother.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Oh, really?

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

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And so back in my undergrad

days, now we're talking like

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2009, like it's been a while now.

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I had to write for my public

speaking class, you had to do some,

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uh, a speech on somebody famous.

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And so I picked Oprah Winfrey

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Huh?

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: and she went

off on a tirade about Oprah Winfrey

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that went on for like three paragraphs.

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And then, um, I was talking about my

botany class and she asked, told me to

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ask my professor why there was no complete

rock record or something, basically

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suggesting that, the earth is only 2,500

years old or whatever they believe.

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she's totally gone off a

rocker, The quiver full

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movement is just shocking to me.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: And it's

just, it preys on people who were

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already kind of, uh, vulnerable.

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I'm, I'm trying to think of like

what kind of vulnerability that is.

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It's sort of intellectual, but

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: It's

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a ni it's

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diet

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Yeah, yeah.

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Naivete for sure.

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What did, what's her problem with Oprah,

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: sh Uh,

I people, I, I guess that she's

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rich, I don't know, but she's a

black woman and people don't like

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black women is 100% the issue.

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Um, I don't think she ever vocalized

what her actual problem was.

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but I, I'm pretty sure that's what it was,

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Yeah.

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Incomplete fossil record as opposed to the

completely complete and verifiable bible.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: right?

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I don't even get into those

conversations with people.

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It's just not, worth it.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: No, I

mean, some people are built for

400

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it and I'm, I'm grateful to him.

401

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I saw John Fugal sang,

was on some pundits show.

402

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I don't know if it was right wing

or left wing, but he was Reed people

403

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for, for being fake Christians.

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'cause apparently he's the son

of a, um, Methodist preacher.

405

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So he was on there like quoting Jesus and

blah, blah, blah, pointing out hypocrisy.

406

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And I know that that is absolutely

going to have no effect whatsoever.

407

:

Like, he's not saving

the world by doing that.

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He's, if he changes one

mind, I'll be shocked.

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But God, I just love to see it.

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It makes me feel good.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: That's how

I feel about arguing in the comment

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sections on, on Facebook articles.

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I know I'm not changing anybody's mind.

414

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I know that they're always just

gonna be like, okay, lib to hard

415

:

idiot, or whatever, But sometimes

you just gotta take the time to

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educate somebody on some shit.

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I told some lady today all about gender

and how it's socially constructed, and

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I was like, take that internet lady

419

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: that's

the, the title of the episode.

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:

My thing lately has been going

into, the comments of queer media.

421

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So like when Queer Kentucky posts on

Facebook or, pink news or something,

422

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and finding the homophobes and

commenting, how did you get here?

423

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Is this in your algorithm?

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Do you follow these people?

425

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What part of your secretly gay

internet history brought you to this

426

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particular article, and why did you

feel like telling us you were here?

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: right.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Because

bitch, I know how algorithms work.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: when I

teach the, like, the, uh, lecture

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ha that has homophobia and all that

stuff in it, I flat out say, generally

431

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the people that protest too much

are the gayest people I've ever met.

432

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You know, and that has

100% been true in my life.

433

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I'm sure there's somebody out there that,

that, that, that is not representative

434

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of that, but I sure haven't met him.

435

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Yeah.

436

:

Did you just see, uh, was it

Marjorie Taylor Green said she

437

:

was gonna read the Epstein list

438

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

439

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: On the floor?

440

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

441

:

She, uh, she's come out as

being with some reasonable

442

:

viewpoints in the last week or so.

443

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But somebody said it's 'cause she's

trying to run for president, which

444

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Bless her heart

445

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

446

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400:

in the pejorative sense.

447

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yes.

448

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Uh, it,

it could be that, I think, I don't

449

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know if she is smart enough to

pretend to be something she's not.

450

:

and we don't even have to

make that an intellect issue.

451

:

I don't know if she can pretend

to be something she's not.

452

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So I do tend to believe that these, these

sort of epiphanies, these small awakenings

453

:

that she's experiencing are genuine.

454

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I still, well, of course

we'll never forgive her.

455

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I will be glad for her.

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say it's great to have you on the team

because we should love a useful idiot

457

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as much as they love a useful idiot.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: right.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I

do not forgive very easily.

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It, it can be very difficult

to lose my trust sometimes.

461

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You know, like I give

people a pretty long leash.

462

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but once it's, if, if you've done

something bad enough to lose my

463

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allegiance, that's very difficult to lose.

464

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You probably are not redeemable,

465

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: I hear

that I'm a very loyal person.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Mm-hmm.

467

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

you lose me, then

468

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: You was trying,

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:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

470

:

You've made a decision

to make that happen.

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:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: oh lord.

472

:

I've seen some discourse, um, talking

about social media, people saying, so

473

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for instance, I saw a post on thread.

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Somebody was talking about cutting their

family off over political disagreements,

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and this was a, white person And a black

woman, I believe it was replied, I'm not

476

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like trying to be mean, but it's just

common for white people to cut family

477

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members off over, uh, disagreement

of politics and things like that.

478

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And it was a very interesting discussion

that brought in elements of race and

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class because there were middle class

white people who were like, yeah, I'm,

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if I can't see eye to eye on an issue

that's very important to me with a

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family member, then I'll cut them off.

482

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And, white trash.

483

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We seemed to agree more with the

black woman who was saying like, uh,

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I mean there are felonies you can

commit and I'm not gonna cut you off.

485

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Right.

486

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Well, my family, my

mom was a grudge holder

487

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and she would, um, she, for a long

time she didn't speak to either

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of her sisters, and so I lost

out on a lot of family that way.

489

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because if mom didn't speak

to 'em, we weren't allowed to

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speak to 'em either, you know,

491

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Yeah.

492

:

That

493

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it becomes a, a whole feud.

494

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: yeah.

495

:

we went from having Christmas

and Thanksgiving together every

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year to nothing for many years.

497

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and then when my brother died,

my aunts came to his funeral and

498

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they kind of reconciled the, the

relationship that's one of the aunts

499

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that I'm going to see tomorrow.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: That's awesome.

501

:

It sucks that it takes that sometimes.

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:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yep.

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She's the only one left of

mom's siblings, and my dad has a

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half-sister left, and that's about it.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I was

thinking about like, for me now.

506

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Um, I look forward to holidays, but,

15 years ago when was still in my like,

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insecure little, Queer kid, stage.

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I would actively look for ways to get

outta going to family Thanksgiving.

509

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Right.

510

:

We never, I, we just,

I always went to mom's.

511

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Uh, she would always do

Thanksgiving at her house.

512

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and then as it, the last few years,

we always went to my sister's.

513

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And so that became the tradition.

514

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And now, the last couple of

years we went to my niece's house

515

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and I'm not invited this year.

516

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So, me and Shana are gonna

have Thanksgiving on our, on

517

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our own, so that'll be fine.

518

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: This

is the niece you just talked to.

519

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: No other niece?

520

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Oh, okay.

521

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

My sister and her kids.

522

:

That's, it was, that's who we went to.

523

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Um, the niece that I was just

talking to was my brother's child.

524

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Okay.

525

:

Um, would say we could spin

the wheel of what have you,

526

:

it's got one thing left on it.

527

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: So

kind of a process of elimination

528

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Uh,

I'll spend the weekend beefing

529

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that up again, and, and I'll put

a post on Facebook and, and such.

530

:

Uh, and listeners tell us on, Spotify

comments or, or, uh, I don't think you

531

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can, well, you could leave us a review

on, uh, iTunes or Apple Podcasts,

532

:

whatever it's called, and tell us what

to go, what should go on the wheel.

533

:

but the only thing left on

it right now is critters.

534

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Critter.

535

:

Well, I got a lot of

stories about Critters

536

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: critters.

537

:

I mean, first of all, what is critters?

538

:

Like, how is it differentiated from

539

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: pet.

540

:

Yeah, the first story I thought of was

when my dog Lacey peed in your lap.

541

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Uh, and, and

that was actually, it wasn't, we had

542

:

known each other for a while by that

point, but maybe like a year, you know,

543

:

it wasn't, that was maybe only like the

second or third time I'd come over to your

544

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house.

545

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

546

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: And I remember

leaving in a pair of your ball shorts

547

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

548

:

It was What happened?

549

:

What happened?

550

:

She was a, she was a teacup poodle.

551

:

Um, she was very tiny and we

think her son, the other dog

552

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that we had was on Lasix.

553

:

He was on a water pill, and we think that

she ate his water pill that day because

554

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never in her life did she pee on anybody.

555

:

That was just a lucky day for you, man.

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So,

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: like, had

several accidents in the house after

558

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that.

559

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: yeah.

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' cause that's what water pills make.

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You need to pee constantly.

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: and, and I

remember like, she got up in my lap.

563

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I didn't put her there, so I think

she was trying to tell us something.

564

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

Well, she always loved boys, so

565

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I was

like, how do I tell these folks that

566

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they're, they're talking just in my lap.

567

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

I was so embarrassed.

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:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I've, I

mean, it was, and and luckily I'm

569

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not squeaked out by stuff like that.

570

:

I, you know,

571

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Right.

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:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: and stuff, but,

you know, and I, I felt, 'cause I totally,

573

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I would've been embarrassed too, but I

did not, I thought it was hysterical.

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

575

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With anybody else, I would've been

mortified, but you, you played it.

576

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Cool, so I appreciated that.

577

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400:

Well, and that is tough.

578

:

I mean, some folks have big feelings

about body fluids and things like that.

579

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: yeah, for sure.

580

:

What else about critters in my

Facebook memories, uh, like two

581

:

days ago came a story, one time and

when we were doing undergrad, we,

582

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we went to campus 'cause Shana had

to work on some studio art stuff.

583

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And I went with her and we got out of

the car and I went to put some stuff

584

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in the garbage can that was there.

585

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And it was one that had like a

closed lid with a hinge on it.

586

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And when I went to put the stuff

in the garbage can, a squirrel

587

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came flying outta the garbage can.

588

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And I screamed like a girl.

589

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400:

The squirrels in bg.

590

:

I, I think there was a, an

article about it actually.

591

:

They were mobilizing, no, this, this,

might have been EKU, but the, especially

592

:

squirrels that live on something

like a college campus or something

593

:

where like it has a very set culture.

594

:

They will learn and they

will coordinate and attack

595

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah, the

BG ones aren't afraid of anybody.

596

:

The BG ones run up on everybody.

597

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: if you, you

know, the black and white ones that are

598

:

there.

599

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah,

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:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I, that's the

only place I've ever seen those silky bl

601

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like they are fully black fully white.

602

:

So I'm

603

:

not talking

604

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about black and white striped squirrels.

605

:

So.

606

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: yeah.

607

:

see the black ones more

than the white ones.

608

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400:

Maybe the white ones get carried

609

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off by birds of prey more.

610

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Maybe

they're over at City Park too, so

611

:

they're all over bg, just not on campus.

612

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Yeah.

613

:

Never seen those

614

:

before.

615

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

616

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: cool looking.

617

:

they was, so when we lived on the

mountainside, there was a lot of

618

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different kinds of wildlife deer would

walk right up to the window Have you

619

:

ever seen a fly, a cockroach that flies?

620

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: No.

621

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I think

they're called wood roaches, something.

622

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They live in the woods.

623

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But yeah, they can fly

624

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Ew.

625

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: yes.

626

:

One of them got in the window of my

room and it flew around and don't

627

:

remember if it touched me or not.

628

:

but I remember also it was so big

when it landed on the, the blinds.

629

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I could hear its feet hitting

630

:

the

631

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beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Ah.

632

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Yeah.

633

:

I was like, what?

634

:

I, like, I was a teenager

and I went and got my mother.

635

:

I.

636

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: When

we moved to Lucasville for that

637

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year, just recently, my dad

had built onto the trailer.

638

:

He had made it more of a house

and he had extended the bedroom.

639

:

He had put his big safe in there.

640

:

And then he made my mom

a gift wrapping room.

641

:

And then he put this lofted

storage all over the place.

642

:

up there.

643

:

And, my sister had come down and

to go through the stuff and you

644

:

had to get on a ladder to get

up to the top storage places.

645

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So they had left the doors open

and I wasn't climbing my big ass up

646

:

that ladder to, to close the door.

647

:

Right.

648

:

And so we're, Shana and I are

sitting there and I heard, and

649

:

I look over and there's a bat

flowing, flying right by my head.

650

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I screamed, oh my God.

651

:

I screamed.

652

:

And it turned around, it went

back the way that it came.

653

:

And I called my neighbor and

he came up with like a hockey

654

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mask and a ba baseball bat.

655

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And he went and he closed it.

656

:

Like, 'cause we think that it went

back into the little hole that it came

657

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from, because then we shut the door.

658

:

We didn't see it again.

659

:

it totally had a bat.

660

:

Fly through the,

661

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: There

were bats that would, uh, circle

662

:

around the, streetlights, when

we lived in the trailer park.

663

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And I remember like that was often

like a sign that it was time to go

664

:

home

665

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: yeah.

666

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: They

were, copperheads up in the mountain.

667

:

They would be near the

stream, the streams.

668

:

but they were that, like a lot of

snakes are extremely skittish and

669

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they, they were so we didn't, even

though they were probably a lot

670

:

of them, we hardly ever saw them.

671

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We would see their little tunnels.

672

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but I remember being scared of them every

time I was up there just convinced that

673

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they was gonna be around the corner.

674

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Have you ever seen a bear?

675

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: No, I

mean, when I was in Tennessee, there

676

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was one up on the hill, but that was,

I, I wasn't anywhere close to us.

677

:

so that's the only job I've seen.

678

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One in real life.

679

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I've seen 'em dead on the

side of the road before.

680

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dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Ooh, poor bear.

681

:

I haven't seen that.

682

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Well,

in West Virginia Hills there's

683

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a lot of of wildlife and stuff,

and they come down sometimes.

684

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: yeah,

there were, there were bears

685

:

on our mountainside and I can't

remember ever actually seeing one.

686

:

I think we've talked about this

before, like the screams in the hills

687

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: There's

a lot of coyotes in our hills

688

:

and they, they scream.

689

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: yeah, they do

a, I think a lot of people think that,

690

:

the Appalachian screams are bobcats.

691

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah,

692

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: in

captivity they'll make this sound

693

:

that sounds just like, especially

like a child or a woman, someone

694

:

with a high pitched voice screaming.

695

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

it's creepy is all I know.

696

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I was gonna,

there's, I have some sad stories about

697

:

wildlife, but I think I won't tell him

698

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

I think of one story that's

699

:

completely inappropriate to tell.

700

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: uh, so

much of like wildlife stories is us.

701

:

It's like us against them.

702

:

Like

703

:

they're,

704

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah,

705

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: we are where

we're not supposed to be or they're

706

:

where they're not supposed to be.

707

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: yeah.

708

:

on that same hill with the, we

saw snakes, we saw big, long

709

:

snakes in the driveway, and so

we bought snake repellent, which

710

:

I didn't even know was a thing.

711

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Hmm.

712

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: they come in

little balls and you throw 'em all over.

713

:

We had snake repellent balls all

over, around the front of the porch

714

:

and under the porch and stuff.

715

:

no, thank you.

716

:

And then when, uh, when Clitha moved

out, she left a garbage bag of her stuff

717

:

sitting on the porch, and she didn't

tell me that there was food in the bag.

718

:

And one of the things on the bag,

because I saw, so I left it sitting

719

:

there for a few days 'cause I didn't

think there was anything in there.

720

:

And we had to take our garbage down the

hill to the, the dumpster down there.

721

:

She left a whole unopened bag of peanuts

in the shell and a raccoon got into it

722

:

and it looked like there was a bomb that

went off that was filled with peanuts.

723

:

They were everywhere.

724

:

We had a lot of critters we had

to deal with up on that hill.

725

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400:

Have you ever had chiggers?

726

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

I don't think so.

727

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: You

know what I'm talking about?

728

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: No.

729

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Oh, I

don't know what their real name is.

730

:

It's some sort of might

lives in, tall grass.

731

:

mom always said that they preferred

to live in Queen Anne's lace.

732

:

You know, that, that

733

:

like white

734

:

flower.

735

:

Sometimes they call berry bugs or

bush mites or scrub itch mites.

736

:

they look kind of like.

737

:

Prickly bedbugs, but they are

microscopic Well, they, they were

738

:

real bad in, Jellico and Williamsburg

there in that area, and they burrow

739

:

down into the skin I think just vibe.

740

:

I don't know if it's a bite.

741

:

I could be totally wrong about how

all this, maybe they don't actually

742

:

burrow around, down in the skin.

743

:

Maybe that's an old wives stale, but

they make a red a little red sore

744

:

and it itches like a mosquito bite.

745

:

But you know how a mosquito bite

can, can stop itching after anywhere

746

:

from a few hours to a couple

days, chiggers itch for weeks.

747

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Oh God.,

748

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Just

think of the Itst that a, a mosquito

749

:

bite ever gets like peak itchiness.

750

:

It's that and it's constant

and nothing stops it.

751

:

. And they hatch from a nest.

752

:

I worked for a whitewater rafting

outfitters there on Cumberland River.

753

:

And so we lived in the woods, but

it's really close to my parents.

754

:

And so we would come up to my

parents' house and hang out

755

:

there sometimes to break up the

monotony and have indoor plumbing.

756

:

we would still hang out outside.

757

:

We lit a fire up, down by the,

uh, trash pile where my mom would

758

:

burn, brush and had a cooler.

759

:

We were sitting there drinking beer.

760

:

It was me and these two girls.

761

:

one of the girls was named Tiffany.

762

:

The other one was named Neely.

763

:

And I was, I was dating her that

summer and Tiffany, we had showers

764

:

at the Outfitters, but it was cold

water and it was uncomfortable.

765

:

So Tiffany just simply didn't take them.

766

:

she would take a dip in the river

every day whenever we went on the trip.

767

:

And to her, that was a bath.

768

:

Mind you, we called the

Cumberland River, the Scumberland.

769

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Oh wow.

770

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: you

weren't getting clean coming outta

771

:

that.

772

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

773

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400:

this, was her hygiene.

774

:

So this is another reason

we were hanging out outside.

775

:

I was sitting on the cooler and

they were sitting in the ground.

776

:

The next morning, me and Neely Wake up

covered in hundreds of trigger bytes,

777

:

head to toe, and they love the creases.

778

:

like ass crack behind the knees, elbow

bends anywhere you like under the boobs.

779

:

It was awful.

780

:

Literally hundreds of trigger bytes.

781

:

Tiffany didn't have a one,

782

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Oh wow.

783

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: they were, they

stayed for weeks and we were miserable.

784

:

We clawed trenches in

our skin, in our sleep,

785

:

to, we had to put socks on

our hands to go to sleep.

786

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: So I

had the chicken pox the summer

787

:

after I graduated from high school.

788

:

I was 17.

789

:

Oh my God.

790

:

That I under, I do understand the itching.

791

:

That won't stop.

792

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400:

You know, it does, it did

793

:

kinda remind me of the chicken

794

:

pox and, and you look like you've got.

795

:

Measles or something like that.

796

:

And there was all these, we were

trying every old wives tale we

797

:

could think of rubbing, turpentine

on it, which hurt like hell.

798

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

799

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: nail polish

on it because somebody told us that.

800

:

Putting nail polish on it.

801

:

Can you imagine sitting there putting

nail polish, painting it under your,

802

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Oh

803

:

no.

804

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I still have

a fear of Queen Ann's lace because I'm

805

:

convinced I'm gonna get Chis from 'em.

806

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Aw.

807

:

I don't know who gave me the chicken pox,

but I'm still pretty bitter about it.

808

:

I was 17.

809

:

I'd already graduated high school.

810

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: do

you think it was orchestrated?

811

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: No.

812

:

mom thought I'd already had 'em

813

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: oh.

814

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: I was the

baby and my, my brother and sister had

815

:

'em when they were young and so she

just, memory didn't serve correctly

816

:

and she remembered that we all three

had 'em when I wasn't even born yet.

817

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: That must

be hard to keep track of actually.

818

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

yeah, I bet it is.

819

:

I can't remember from teaching

the same class back to back

820

:

what I've said in each class.

821

:

I can't imagine remembering

which kid had had what it

822

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Yeah.

823

:

Yeah.

824

:

I thi, I'm pretty sure I got mine from

a sleepover and I think the sleepover

825

:

over was orchestrated chickenpox party

826

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: gotcha.

827

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: and listeners,

I don't know if you've heard of this,

828

:

but some parents will, if a kid gets

chickenpox, you want the kid to get

829

:

chickenpox, like everyone needs to get it.

830

:

because it's very dangerous

to get them as an adult.

831

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yes.

832

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: So they

would have, sleepovers with a kid

833

:

if somebody came up, you know,

oh, such and such, got chickenpox.

834

:

Let's go, let's hurry and get

all the kids together so they all

835

:

catch it, which is diabolical, but

836

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

837

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: really smart.

838

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: It's probably

not a thing anymore with the vaccines.

839

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400:

Is there a vaccine for

840

:

chickenpox?

841

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: yeah.

842

:

Yep.

843

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: cool.

844

:

It It's the same virus as shingles,

845

:

isn't it?

846

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Mm-hmm.

847

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Yeah.

848

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yep.

849

:

If you have chickenpox,

you can get shingles.

850

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Yeah.

851

:

I've had it a couple times.

852

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

My sister deals with it.

853

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: miserable.

854

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

855

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: When

did you get your first pet?

856

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Um, before

I can remember, there's pictures

857

:

of me with a dog that we named

John Boy, um, when I was very, very

858

:

little, like a year and a half old.

859

:

the first one that was mine was

a cat named Pedro, the Devil Cat.

860

:

he, he had some kind of leukemia

or something, and he, mom told

861

:

me she took him to a farm.

862

:

She literally told me that after I

left for school, we had a dog named

863

:

Toby that he was my, he my uncle

bought her for, for his granddaughter.

864

:

And he, he bit her.

865

:

So he gave her, he gave him to us.

866

:

So we had Toby.

867

:

but then on my own, my first

cat was a cat named Trance.

868

:

He was a, he was parch.

869

:

Norwegian Forest cat, I'm convinced.

870

:

'cause he looks like him and he was

bigger than the dog and he was huge

871

:

and he was, his tail was

ginormous and he was a badass.

872

:

But I loved him.

873

:

He was my badass.

874

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400:

Have you ever ridden a horse?

875

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yes.

876

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400:

Are you good at riding

877

:

horses?

878

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: No,

879

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: How'd it go?

880

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

I've done it a couple of times.

881

:

The, when we were, it was when

we were in Iowa, I remember

882

:

specifically we were doing that.

883

:

we went to stay with my dad for a

couple of weeks in the summer and the

884

:

horse threw my brother off of him.

885

:

And I thought that was hilarious.

886

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400:

Horses scare the daylights out of

887

:

me.

888

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

889

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: just

so big, and I've been kicked by

890

:

one and I've been thrown by one.

891

:

there was, uh, a very unruly horse

at the farm that we spent a lot

892

:

of time at, and he, he just put

the fear of equine entity into me.

893

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: And then when

I worked for autism services, one of my

894

:

clients, um, had equine therapy and so

we went to the barn once a week and I

895

:

got to help her, like doing the brushing

and, and doing the things that she did.

896

:

So that was fun.

897

:

That was fun.

898

:

But I didn't ride.

899

:

Then I just helped her do some of

the, she rode and she enjoyed it.

900

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I

also just think they're all

901

:

like amazing and beautiful.

902

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Mm-hmm.

903

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: tendency

to love things I also have a fear

904

:

of, I'm the same way with the ocean.

905

:

I'm fascinated by the ocean,

but it scares the life

906

:

outta me.

907

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: I had

an uncle die in the ocean and

908

:

it scares me an under a riptide.

909

:

Got him.

910

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: yeah.

911

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: And he

was a big, strong, huge man and

912

:

he died saving his stepdaughter.

913

:

if it can take my uncle

Timmy, it can take anybody.

914

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Yeah.

915

:

I mean, you can drown in an inch

of water, so why do I need to go

916

:

getting in, a thousand feet of water?

917

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Well

I hurt my leg at the beach.

918

:

Um, yeah, so I,

919

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: beef too.

920

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: yeah, I,

yeah, I got sand with SA in it on

921

:

my leg and it opened up a huge wound

and I dealt with that for years.

922

:

I still deal with the swelling of

it 'cause I've got lymphedema in my

923

:

legs and they swell and they swell

really weirdly around my scars and

924

:

it hurts, I don't recommend it.

925

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: My mom has had

lymphedema since she had breast cancer.

926

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Oh, wow.

927

:

I think it's related to my PCOS

polycystic ovarian syndrome, which

928

:

'cause it makes you insulin resistant and

everything else because basically I had

929

:

a diabetic wound before I was diabetic.

930

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: know,

isn't it just fucking crazy how

931

:

some diseases will gang up on

932

:

you?

933

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: yeah,

934

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: they

bring their friends comorbidities

935

:

of, um, like Ehlers Danlos syndrome.

936

:

That's what's taking me out right now.

937

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: yeah, yeah.

938

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Like,

oh, you, you're such a bully.

939

:

You can't come on your own.

940

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Lame.

941

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Lame.

942

:

It gets dark here at 4:00 PM now.

943

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: It's

about five when it gets here.

944

:

Now we're supposed to get

our first snow this weekend.

945

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: know.

946

:

I don't think we are.

947

:

for a while, but yeah.

948

:

I think in Kentucky too, they're

talking, my family was talking

949

:

about how they might get theirs.

950

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

Up to an inch they said,

951

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: I

keep thinking it's still October.

952

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

but it is not sadly,

953

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: not.

954

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: but I

got my, my winter coat all fixed up.

955

:

Uh, I bought a really nice coat last

winter 'cause it was our first winter

956

:

back up here and I wasn't gonna be cold.

957

:

So I got me a real Midwestern.

958

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Yeah.

959

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400:

fleece on the inside and, plastic

960

:

shell on the outside, basically.

961

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: yeah.

962

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: it, it

was really warm, but my backpack

963

:

got stuck on it last year as I

was trying to get in the car.

964

:

And when I pulled it, it ripped.

965

:

but I had a really nice old lady.

966

:

She was the cutest thing

I've ever seen in my life.

967

:

Her name was Maggie and

she gave me back my coat.

968

:

I just gave it to her and she gave it

back to me in this little thank you bag.

969

:

That was adorable.

970

:

She was 79 years old.

971

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Wow.

972

:

Out.

973

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: yeah.

974

:

And my coat looks great,

and it was only 20 bucks.

975

:

I tipped her $5 too, so,

976

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: That's

977

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: yeah.

978

:

Yeah.

979

:

So that was a good experience.

980

:

And then we bought, we just

bought Shanna a coat this week

981

:

too, so she's ready to go.

982

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: when you were

a kid and you could walk out in a a, a

983

:

flannel and may be a hoodie and be fine.

984

:

Come what?

985

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Yeah.

986

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: and

now you gotta I got, I have

987

:

pants with fleece lining in them.

988

:

Multiple pairs.

989

:

Multiple

990

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: I

can't do that 'cause I will

991

:

sweat my ass off if I do that.

992

:

So I haven't gone that far.

993

:

But I do have a coat

'cause I can take it off.

994

:

'cause I sweat like nobody's business.

995

:

dash_11_11-07-2025_172400: Oh, I do,

I have a hypo hyperhydrosis, but I've

996

:

also never experienced a winter like

Minnesota is, I think Claire put it best.

997

:

She said Minnesota is the final

boss of winter because once it

998

:

gets cold it just stays below zero.

999

:

beck_11_11-07-2025_182400: Plus

we're, I have to use wide leg pants

:

00:41:16,734 --> 00:41:19,314

'cause my, the lymphedema in my legs.

:

00:41:19,534 --> 00:41:23,314

so I, I, a lot of those want to be

narrow lagged and I just, I can't,

:

00:41:23,434 --> 00:41:24,874

my legs won't even fit in them.

:

00:41:25,409 --> 00:41:26,909

-:

You might need the snow pants.

:

00:41:26,909 --> 00:41:27,449

-:

:

00:41:27,894 --> 00:41:29,064

-:

I got a pair of those too

:

00:41:29,064 --> 00:41:29,664

-:

:

00:41:29,664 --> 00:41:30,534

-:

:

00:41:30,917 --> 00:41:34,770

But there was a couple of days I

also bought, of the Carhartt, like

:

00:41:34,770 --> 00:41:37,860

super heavy duty lined coveralls.

:

00:41:37,860 --> 00:41:38,280

-:

:

00:41:38,713 --> 00:41:40,273

-:

Had to wear them a few days

:

00:41:40,273 --> 00:41:41,113

-:

:

00:41:41,113 --> 00:41:42,733

-:

not, I'm not even talking wind chill.

:

00:41:42,733 --> 00:41:45,163

It is actually just negative 20 degrees.

:

00:41:45,423 --> 00:41:45,993

-:

:

00:41:51,461 --> 00:41:55,241

The coldest it's been here since I have

lived here, was my first winter here,

:

00:41:55,571 --> 00:41:57,791

and the windshield got to negative 47.

:

00:41:58,001 --> 00:41:58,331

-:

:

00:41:58,381 --> 00:41:59,371

-:

You would've been here too.

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Yeah.

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Um, that, that was, up until

that point, the coldest

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temperature I've ever experienced

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-:

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and I didn't know about it.

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And, and they had said like,

you can't go out and drive.

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00:42:09,031 --> 00:42:10,981

They put it was a level four,

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-:

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is, the one where it's only people who

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are, or emergency personnel or um, like

federal officials are allowed to drive.

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00:42:19,608 --> 00:42:24,018

and we remember we had to like have a

Twitter war to get, um, Maisie to shut

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00:42:24,018 --> 00:42:24,378

the school

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00:42:24,428 --> 00:42:24,908

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Yep.

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00:42:25,838 --> 00:42:27,338

-:

had just come out, so I just

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00:42:27,338 --> 00:42:29,168

remember watching all the memes.

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00:42:29,168 --> 00:42:32,798

Come at her, you know, like they were

Photoshopping, her face onto Elsa.

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00:42:32,798 --> 00:42:33,788

The cold never bothered

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00:42:33,788 --> 00:42:33,938

me.

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00:42:34,198 --> 00:42:36,328

-:

the whole Twitter war about it.

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00:42:36,388 --> 00:42:36,778

Yeah.

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The kids, they were like,

we are not doing this.

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00:42:40,358 --> 00:42:41,588

You mean bitch

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00:42:42,578 --> 00:42:43,208

school?

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00:42:43,538 --> 00:42:44,678

This is dangerous.

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00:42:44,968 --> 00:42:47,188

-:

closed school last winter here.

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00:42:47,248 --> 00:42:51,088

Um, like at 6:00 PM like they closed

all the classes from 6:00 PM on because

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00:42:51,088 --> 00:42:52,918

it was so dark and, and so cold.

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00:42:53,078 --> 00:42:53,378

-:

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00:42:53,398 --> 00:42:54,718

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did that a couple of times last

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00:42:54,718 --> 00:42:56,818

semester, or not the semester before.

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00:42:56,918 --> 00:42:58,478

-:

what her problem was, but she never

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00:42:58,478 --> 00:43:00,068

wanted to let 'em stay home when it

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00:43:00,068 --> 00:43:00,368

got

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00:43:00,688 --> 00:43:00,988

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Yeah.

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00:43:01,868 --> 00:43:03,608

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so they canceled everything.

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00:43:03,608 --> 00:43:06,608

And so I thought, well I'll,

I down to the store and, and

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00:43:06,608 --> 00:43:07,838

you know, get me a six pack.

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00:43:07,838 --> 00:43:10,958

cause I lived down the street

from, um, west Side six

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so I was like, I want to get a

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00:43:13,116 --> 00:43:16,806

shawarma and a beer South side six.

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00:43:16,806 --> 00:43:17,136

Right.

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00:43:17,369 --> 00:43:18,869

So, I put on a bunch of layers.

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00:43:18,869 --> 00:43:22,109

I had my blue jeans, I put on my

tights underneath them, had my

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00:43:22,109 --> 00:43:30,126

socks, had my boots put on, thermal

flannel, hoodie, coat, scarf hat.

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00:43:30,276 --> 00:43:33,366

I mean, I was like, I even thought

like, this is probably overkill.

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00:43:33,756 --> 00:43:37,716

And I went outside and

I was like, wow, okay.

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00:43:38,176 --> 00:43:39,256

I'll walk fast.

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00:43:39,656 --> 00:43:43,046

I got maybe halfway there and

realized that my legs were

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00:43:43,046 --> 00:43:44,126

numb, couldn't feel 'em at

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00:43:44,126 --> 00:43:44,396

all.

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00:43:44,771 --> 00:43:45,191

-:

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00:43:45,696 --> 00:43:47,556

-:

remember why, but I pulled my phone out

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00:43:47,556 --> 00:43:49,386

to look at it and the phone had died.

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00:43:49,386 --> 00:43:52,026

It was so, it, it got so

cold that it bricked up the

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00:43:52,026 --> 00:43:52,446

phone.

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00:43:52,676 --> 00:43:53,756

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00:43:54,066 --> 00:43:55,896

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So I was like, I'm in danger.

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00:43:58,206 --> 00:43:59,946

So I just turned right

around and went back.

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00:44:00,006 --> 00:44:01,686

I was like, I don't need it that bad.

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00:44:02,379 --> 00:44:03,729

-:

were probably closed anyway.

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00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,859

Wouldn't that have sucked if

you got all the way there and

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00:44:05,859 --> 00:44:06,514

it would, they would've closed.

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-:

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00:44:07,594 --> 00:44:07,924

Yeah.

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00:44:07,924 --> 00:44:11,644

And I didn't, well, because I didn't

understand how dangerous it was.

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00:44:11,644 --> 00:44:13,054

I'd never experienced that before.

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00:44:13,294 --> 00:44:13,864

-:

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00:44:14,019 --> 00:44:15,849

It gets so cold they can't salt the roads.

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00:44:15,849 --> 00:44:17,079

That's what's wild to me

:

00:44:17,336 --> 00:44:18,116

-:

how's that work?

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00:44:18,453 --> 00:44:20,793

-:

the, they use sand instead of salt

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00:44:20,823 --> 00:44:23,613

after the sand because it gets to

a point where the, it's a melting

:

00:44:23,613 --> 00:44:26,703

temperature is below the freezing

temperature of the, the salt water.

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00:44:26,758 --> 00:44:27,388

-:

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00:44:27,843 --> 00:44:28,113

-:

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00:44:28,113 --> 00:44:29,253

So they have to use sand.

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00:44:29,488 --> 00:44:30,448

-:

They don't do shit here.

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00:44:31,353 --> 00:44:32,313

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00:44:32,428 --> 00:44:35,698

-:

scrape, but they don't, plow it.

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00:44:35,698 --> 00:44:39,791

So, um, they, they don't actually

put the, what's it called?

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00:44:39,791 --> 00:44:42,401

That part, the shovel part of a plow.

:

00:44:42,688 --> 00:44:43,558

Maybe it's just plow.

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00:44:43,811 --> 00:44:46,241

it does, doesn't actually

touch the, the road.

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00:44:46,434 --> 00:44:49,344

It's a few inches above it,

and they just try to flatten.

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00:44:49,404 --> 00:44:52,524

That's all they're trying to do is

flatten it out and people will, if you

:

00:44:52,524 --> 00:44:54,864

can drive on top of it, more power to you.

:

00:44:55,141 --> 00:44:58,921

but because they have to do it so

often, they would just destroy the road.

:

00:44:59,278 --> 00:45:00,658

cause the snow happens here.

:

00:45:00,658 --> 00:45:04,198

It like snows doesn't melt,

snows again, doesn't melt.

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00:45:04,468 --> 00:45:08,638

. So over the winter it's just piled

up to, there were mountains of snow

:

00:45:08,638 --> 00:45:10,438

that were three times my height.

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00:45:10,983 --> 00:45:11,913

-:

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00:45:11,968 --> 00:45:12,988

-:

seen anything like it.

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00:45:13,473 --> 00:45:13,923

-:

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00:45:14,158 --> 00:45:14,908

-:

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00:45:14,908 --> 00:45:18,088

It's, it is a little bad ass, but

it's also just wildly uncomfortable.

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00:45:18,088 --> 00:45:18,208

It's

:

00:45:18,208 --> 00:45:18,898

miserable.

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00:45:19,211 --> 00:45:22,061

-:

is not ready for the cold temperatures.

:

00:45:22,121 --> 00:45:23,231

It just is not.

:

00:45:23,708 --> 00:45:28,898

I have no want to live south of here

in any regard, you know, because

:

00:45:28,928 --> 00:45:32,048

the size of the bugs, when it gets

hotter, that's just too much for me.

:

00:45:32,438 --> 00:45:34,058

But on the other hand, I don't know.

:

00:45:34,118 --> 00:45:35,678

Shana wants to go further north.

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00:45:35,918 --> 00:45:39,968

She wants to go to the UP, would be

her ideal destination for retirement.

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00:45:40,398 --> 00:45:42,138

-:

I tell you what about this area?

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00:45:42,258 --> 00:45:43,848

it is not shy of bugs.

:

00:45:44,293 --> 00:45:47,743

Granted, they're not interesting

bugs, they're not scary or whatever,

:

00:45:47,743 --> 00:45:50,806

but they, what they don't have in

size, they make up for in number.

:

00:45:51,105 --> 00:45:52,455

The air is bugs.

:

00:45:52,755 --> 00:45:57,105

Like I, I, I got to where I had

to train myself to be able to run

:

00:45:57,105 --> 00:45:59,355

without breathing through my mouth

because I would, you would choke on

:

00:45:59,355 --> 00:45:59,865

bugs.

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00:46:00,005 --> 00:46:01,205

-:

:

00:46:01,643 --> 00:46:03,653

-:

there's a joke here that the, the

:

00:46:03,653 --> 00:46:05,303

Minnesota State bird is the mosquito

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00:46:05,563 --> 00:46:05,893

-:

:

00:46:07,103 --> 00:46:07,913

-:

and they ain't lying.

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00:46:08,623 --> 00:46:08,983

-:

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00:46:09,983 --> 00:46:11,663

-:

maybe let's hear from this week's

:

00:46:11,663 --> 00:46:16,163

sponsor that I've already forgotten

because I took my medicine.

:

00:46:16,193 --> 00:46:17,213

I don't even remember what I wrote.

:

00:46:17,663 --> 00:46:18,263

Lord.

:

00:46:18,293 --> 00:46:19,043

Strap in y'all.

:

00:46:20,613 --> 00:46:21,813

Uh, disclaimer.

:

00:46:22,083 --> 00:46:23,488

I was not in my right

mind when I wrote this.

:

00:46:25,147 --> 00:46:25,747

okay.

:

00:46:25,807 --> 00:46:28,777

This week's episode of Queernecks

is brought to you by Mumble Deeg,

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00:46:29,917 --> 00:46:33,847

teaching folks how to stay steady

since about the dawn of any other bad

:

00:46:33,847 --> 00:46:39,577

idea, born of an abundance of time,

sharp things, and a paucity of sense.

:

00:46:39,847 --> 00:46:43,627

Mumble dep was what you did when you

wanted to prove that you had some nerve.

:

00:46:44,257 --> 00:46:47,617

You'd flip the blade from your

hand, your elbow, maybe your

:

00:46:47,617 --> 00:46:49,027

nose if you were showing off.

:

00:46:49,327 --> 00:46:52,237

The winner sticks, the blade in the

dirt, the loser roots in the dust

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00:46:52,237 --> 00:46:53,767

with their teeth to pull the peg out.

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00:46:54,247 --> 00:46:56,167

No, I am not making this up.

:

00:46:56,167 --> 00:46:57,727

This was a real game we played.

:

00:46:58,537 --> 00:47:01,447

never was a better metaphor

for the indignities of poverty,

:

00:47:01,447 --> 00:47:03,457

scarcity, and messy tenacity.

:

00:47:03,898 --> 00:47:07,258

This is not a true game of

skill, but rather one of chance.

:

00:47:07,618 --> 00:47:11,248

. The real sport of mumble deeg is in

keeping cool when the blade lands

:

00:47:11,248 --> 00:47:14,908

closer and closer to your toe with

each drop about acting like you

:

00:47:14,908 --> 00:47:16,948

weren't scared of bleeding a little.

:

00:47:17,338 --> 00:47:18,328

That's a language.

:

00:47:18,328 --> 00:47:22,738

Rural folks learn to understand

early stoicism pride and the

:

00:47:22,738 --> 00:47:24,298

kind of stubborn self-assurance.

:

00:47:24,298 --> 00:47:27,538

You can't learn from a YouTube

tutorial, there's something

:

00:47:27,538 --> 00:47:29,518

altogether queer about mumble deeg.

:

00:47:29,908 --> 00:47:33,778

We play it every time we walk into

a new space and measure how safe

:

00:47:33,778 --> 00:47:38,008

it feels every time we say our

name out loud and hope it sticks.

:

00:47:38,428 --> 00:47:40,378

We've learned to hold our hands steady.

:

00:47:40,468 --> 00:47:43,953

Flip the blade just right and smile

like it doesn't still make us nervous.

:

00:47:45,253 --> 00:47:48,793

Mumbley Peg was never for the faint

of heart, and neither is growing

:

00:47:48,793 --> 00:47:52,093

up queer in a town where the church

bells outnumber the stoplights.

:

00:47:52,453 --> 00:47:53,443

But here's the secret.

:

00:47:53,533 --> 00:47:56,893

Once you've learned to laugh with a

knife in your hand and mud on your

:

00:47:56,893 --> 00:47:59,353

knees, the world can't scare you as much.

:

00:48:00,133 --> 00:48:03,493

this fall, Queernecks invites

you to play your very queerest

:

00:48:03,493 --> 00:48:05,143

game and make it look easy.

:

00:48:05,503 --> 00:48:09,583

Show up loud, stick your landing,

and if you fall flat, pick yourself

:

00:48:09,583 --> 00:48:12,823

up, spit out the dirt and declare

that it was simply character work.

:

00:48:13,573 --> 00:48:15,613

This week's episode is

sponsored by Mumble Deeg.

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00:48:16,778 --> 00:48:18,108

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never heard of that in my life.

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00:48:18,523 --> 00:48:19,063

-:

You never played it.

:

00:48:19,063 --> 00:48:20,413

We played it on the school.

:

00:48:20,743 --> 00:48:22,933

We played it on the playground

in elementary school.

:

00:48:23,278 --> 00:48:24,293

-:

So what are the rules?

:

00:48:24,293 --> 00:48:24,593

What do you do?

:

00:48:25,063 --> 00:48:28,393

-:

it, it's a pocket knife and the goal

:

00:48:28,393 --> 00:48:32,323

is to drop it in such a way that

the knife sticks into the ground.

:

00:48:32,323 --> 00:48:33,853

So it has to, it has to land.

:

00:48:33,853 --> 00:48:34,813

Stand it up like that.

:

00:48:34,813 --> 00:48:39,242

And you can either play like

one-on-one verses and you know.

:

00:48:39,415 --> 00:48:40,945

whoever sticks it is the winner.

:

00:48:41,175 --> 00:48:43,875

and if you both stick it, whoever sticks

up, the straightest is the winner.

:

00:48:43,875 --> 00:48:47,322

or you can play it like a

round elimination, you could set

:

00:48:47,322 --> 00:48:48,132

it up a lot of different ways.

:

00:48:48,432 --> 00:48:52,122

But ultimately it is all about

eliminating somebody who has to remove

:

00:48:52,122 --> 00:48:53,562

the mumbly peg with their teeth.

:

00:48:53,562 --> 00:48:57,258

So it's, you've stuck a, twig

or something into the ground.

:

00:48:57,558 --> 00:49:00,108

You look for the muddiest messiest

part or whatever, and you try

:

00:49:00,108 --> 00:49:01,158

to stick it down real deep.

:

00:49:01,578 --> 00:49:03,798

and then the loser has to

pull it out with their teeth.

:

00:49:09,528 --> 00:49:12,618

Just imagine a bunch of

second graders playing this in

:

00:49:15,078 --> 00:49:16,658

-:

graders with pocket knives.

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00:49:16,668 --> 00:49:17,088

-:

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00:49:17,298 --> 00:49:17,778

Oh yeah.

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00:49:18,198 --> 00:49:19,038

-:

:

00:49:19,630 --> 00:49:21,580

-:

nothing like that like that y'all played

:

00:49:21,580 --> 00:49:25,810

where, or maybe you think back and you're

like, that was this unusual thing we did.

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00:49:26,181 --> 00:49:26,721

-:

:

00:49:26,721 --> 00:49:29,691

We would go to Walmart and pretend

to get married in the craft section

:

00:49:29,691 --> 00:49:30,861

because there was nothing else to do.

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00:49:32,251 --> 00:49:35,071

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I love Walmart improv.

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00:49:35,421 --> 00:49:36,231

-:

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00:49:36,361 --> 00:49:37,411

-:

did a bunch of that too.

:

00:49:37,479 --> 00:49:41,409

we got kicked out a few times for some

things and some of them were import taste,

:

00:49:41,409 --> 00:49:43,059

like we were pretending to be panhandler.

:

00:49:43,149 --> 00:49:43,629

One time

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00:49:43,797 --> 00:49:44,247

-:

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00:49:44,491 --> 00:49:45,931

-:

took my guitar and we sat down

:

00:49:45,931 --> 00:49:49,231

and we put a hat out and pretended

to be begging for dollars and.

:

00:49:49,666 --> 00:49:50,986

We didn't know that that was illegal.

:

00:49:53,393 --> 00:49:54,323

We just thought it was funny.

:

00:49:55,043 --> 00:49:57,173

So not only was it in poor

taste, it was also illegal.

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00:49:57,173 --> 00:50:00,653

And one of the many things we probably

should have gone to jail for as kids.

:

00:50:01,328 --> 00:50:05,198

But yeah, we would also go in and we would

have, water gun fights in the aisles.

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00:50:05,579 --> 00:50:07,409

We played dodge ball in there one time.

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00:50:09,724 --> 00:50:10,894

-:

That's like a goal

:

00:50:11,309 --> 00:50:13,799

-:

might have been the last time we were,

:

00:50:14,243 --> 00:50:15,323

-:

allowed in there.

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00:50:15,558 --> 00:50:17,658

-:

and, and you also, 'cause it was

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00:50:17,658 --> 00:50:20,028

the only Walmart in a a hundred mile

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00:50:20,028 --> 00:50:20,598

radius.

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00:50:21,038 --> 00:50:21,258

-:

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00:50:21,288 --> 00:50:22,968

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truth about why you can't go back.

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00:50:25,668 --> 00:50:27,258

Mom would be like, let's

stop in the Walmart.

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00:50:27,288 --> 00:50:28,338

Oh, I got something to do.

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00:50:28,338 --> 00:50:29,208

Can you drop me off?

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00:50:29,298 --> 00:50:29,688

Uh,

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00:50:32,984 --> 00:50:36,404

but, and then they, they'll forget

though, like ultimately whenever I would,

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00:50:36,494 --> 00:50:38,604

it's maybe you're just in a different

context when you're with your parent.

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00:50:39,225 --> 00:50:39,515

-:

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00:50:39,823 --> 00:50:41,653

-:

kicked outta places back then, especially

:

00:50:41,653 --> 00:50:43,003

before their cameras were very good.

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00:50:43,003 --> 00:50:44,953

It was just sort of like,

don't come back for a week.

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00:50:45,348 --> 00:50:45,638

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-:

give us a noun of Appalachian interest?

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-:

I absolutely do.

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00:50:50,838 --> 00:50:51,828

-:

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00:50:52,373 --> 00:50:53,063

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00:50:53,063 --> 00:50:55,133

I'm doing this one in honor of Shanna.

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00:50:55,788 --> 00:50:56,268

Okay.

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00:50:56,783 --> 00:50:58,724

-:

back to Nouns of Appalachian Interest,

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00:50:58,724 --> 00:51:02,564

the part of Queernecks where we take

something simple, stare at it lovingly

:

00:51:02,564 --> 00:51:04,454

for way too long, and call it culture.

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00:51:04,724 --> 00:51:07,484

Today's noun, the West Virginia slaw Dog.

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00:51:07,869 --> 00:51:11,049

Now let's clear up this up before we

lose any listeners in the parking lot.

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00:51:11,049 --> 00:51:14,739

A true West Virginia slaw dog

is not chili, onions and slaw.

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00:51:14,979 --> 00:51:18,639

It's a union of chaos and hubris,

and we are not here for it.

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00:51:18,639 --> 00:51:19,749

No, it's a proper slaw.

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00:51:19,749 --> 00:51:21,819

Dog is just a hotdog with cole slaw.

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That's it.

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Nothing else.

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Just meat and mayonnaise

holding hands in public.

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You can trace the slaw dog back to

the mid-century roadside stands and

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Dairy Queens across West Virginia.

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The kind with neon signs that

buzzed like lightning bugs

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and picnic tables out front.

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Sometimes after the war, folks started

spooning the same creamy slaw that topped

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their fried fish onto their hot dogs.

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Probably because somebody's aunt

got tired of using two bowls.

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The result was a revelation, cold

crunch, meaning warm dog and a bun

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so soft it could double as a pillow.

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By the:

drive-ins, gas stations, the little

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dairy queen off of Route 60 in St.

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Alban's, the tasty freeze.

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At Charleston, you could order one for

lunch or grab a grape knee high and still

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have change left over to play the jukebox.

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The thing about the slaw dog

is that it's quietly radical.

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It doesn't perform for outsiders.

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It doesn't care about

elevated southern cuisine.

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It's the kind of food that looks you

dead in the eye and says, honey, this

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is what we had and we made it work.

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It's Appalachian thrift turned into joy.

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Now that slaw, that's where the art lives.

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You'll see two major schools

of thought, sweet mayo slaw

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and vinegar slaw, sweet slaw.

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Folks believe that sugar heals all wounds,

vinegar, slaw, Folks believe that life

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is pain, but it's at least it's tangy.

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Either way, the cabbage is chopped

fine, not shredded, not fancy, just

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small enough to rest easy on the

bun without staging a slide off.

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To me, the slaw dog is what happens

when comfort food stops trying so hard.

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It's the middle of July, your barefoot

in the grass paper plate, bending under

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the weight of potato chips and devotion.

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There's a half empty pitcher of sweet

tea sweating on the porch rail, and

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00:52:53,829 --> 00:52:56,859

somebody's yelling at the store bought

buttons are too thin, but they'll do.

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And somehow, somehow this little hot dog

with its crown of slaw becomes perfect.

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It's messy in the way that

good things are supposed to be.

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It's not a meal that you eat, it's a

feeling that you chase it's also the

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most democratic food in Appalachia.

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Everybody's got a version.

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Everybody's ant claims.

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Hers is the original, and nobody's wrong.

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You'll find it at church picnics,

at ballfields funerals, weddings,

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and every political fundraiser that

promises free food, but means slaw dogs.

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It's the culinary

handshake of West Virginia.

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Casual, comforting, and

just a little bit sticky.

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And maybe that's why we love

it, because it's honest.

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It doesn't try to be

gourmet or photogenic.

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It just exists like many of us do,

quietly, proudly in its own messy glory.

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So here's to the West Virginia slaw

dog, the humble hero of summer.

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Proof that mayonnaise and cabbage can

change lives and the only food that

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tastes like both childhood and adulthood

in the same bite back to you, dash.

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I've never had a slaw dog.

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It's Shana's absolute favorite.

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She craves them.

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-:

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Listening to you describe it.

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I need to, I need to give it a shot.

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I've had a slaw burger, which is.

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The same philosophy,

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-:

a place in Huntington called

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Stewart's, and it is just a little

hot dog shack and that's all.

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They pretty, they solve, they

serve burgers now, but they used

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to be, I think just this hot dogs.

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00:54:13,004 --> 00:54:15,224

Anyway, they, you could get a

chili dog there or you could get

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00:54:15,224 --> 00:54:18,134

a slaw dog and Shanna loves 'em.

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00:54:18,344 --> 00:54:21,884

-:

a song, by the Kentucky Head, hunters

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-:

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Let's all go

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-:

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Walker.

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-:

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Walker.

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-:

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-:

get a slaw burger and a ski.

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-:

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-:

I've been to Domas Walker.

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-:

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-:

in Greensburg , , Kentucky.

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00:54:36,133 --> 00:54:39,733

It's not called Dumas Walker

anymore, but they do still serve.

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The Slaw Burger and Ski combo.

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00:54:42,498 --> 00:54:43,178

-:

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00:54:43,301 --> 00:54:47,231

a lot of people put slaw on like

barbecue sandwiches and things like that.

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-:

had, and it is, that's the way to do

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it.

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-:

don't have a McDonald's close, right?

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-:

There's one a half hour away.

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00:54:56,451 --> 00:54:57,711

-:

The holiday pies are back.

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00:54:57,983 --> 00:54:58,553

-:

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-:

had a holiday pie from McDonald's.

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Oh, my friend.

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So it's a sugar cookie, like crust and

they fill it with like a, a warm custard.

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-:

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-:

They are delicious.

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00:55:12,877 --> 00:55:14,917

-:

about to, I'm gonna make an excuse

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00:55:15,067 --> 00:55:19,717

that I need to go, actually, I am gonna

try to go visit some friends tomorrow.

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00:55:19,717 --> 00:55:24,112

I've gotta time it right because I can't

drive on the, I've got three pain meds.

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00:55:24,492 --> 00:55:26,977

Any one is enough to make

me not be able to drive.

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00:55:26,977 --> 00:55:29,617

So if I time it, I can go up

there and see some friends.

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So I'll stop by the McDonald's up there.

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-:

you'll and tell me Report back.

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Let me know what you think.

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'cause

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it they are my favorite.

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00:55:37,812 --> 00:55:40,272

They just came back November 1st

and I've already had like five.

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So

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Yeah, because the McDonald's is

the closest like fast food that

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00:55:45,506 --> 00:55:47,006

we have to us, that and Taco Bell.

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00:55:47,389 --> 00:55:49,009

-:

I'm selling something on Facebook

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Marketplace, so I better let you go.

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00:55:53,682 --> 00:55:55,152

I thought that sounded pretty redneck.

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00:55:57,107 --> 00:55:58,307

-:

I've sold plenty of things on

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00:55:58,307 --> 00:56:00,077

Facebook Marketplace before.

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-:

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I've sold a couple things.

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00:56:01,772 --> 00:56:01,802

I.

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00:56:01,982 --> 00:56:03,392

-:

we were moving, we sold a bunch

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00:56:03,392 --> 00:56:04,982

of stuff like our washer and dryer

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-:

what you got going on this weekend?

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00:56:08,165 --> 00:56:08,885

Anything fun.

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00:56:09,220 --> 00:56:10,720

-:

going to see my aunt on Saturday

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00:56:10,769 --> 00:56:12,149

Sunday I gotta write an exam.

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We don't have any class on

Tuesday because of Veteran's Day.

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00:56:15,689 --> 00:56:15,929

Yeah.

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00:56:15,929 --> 00:56:18,329

But that's my office hours

day, so I won't have access.

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00:56:18,329 --> 00:56:20,129

So I have to go down

and print at some point.

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00:56:20,669 --> 00:56:23,369

Um, and I have given it another exam.

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00:56:23,369 --> 00:56:25,109

I give so many freaking exams.

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00:56:25,149 --> 00:56:25,439

-:

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00:56:26,069 --> 00:56:28,199

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all I end up doing is grading exams.

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00:56:28,450 --> 00:56:30,550

I wish I knew the person

that wrote the damn syllabus.

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00:56:31,490 --> 00:56:32,660

-:

Whose fault is this?

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00:56:34,340 --> 00:56:35,810

. Does it look like I have an antenna?

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00:56:36,190 --> 00:56:38,260

-:

watched, I've looked at it the whole time.

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00:56:39,276 --> 00:56:40,416

-:

We are so stupid.

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00:56:43,601 --> 00:56:45,491

-:

at, I kept thinking, Marvin the Martian,

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00:56:46,776 --> 00:56:48,876

-:

that's what I'm serving right here.

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00:56:50,826 --> 00:56:51,066

God.

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00:56:51,881 --> 00:56:54,041

Well, hope you enjoy your visit with your

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00:56:54,041 --> 00:56:54,581

aunt.

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00:56:54,856 --> 00:56:55,246

-:

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00:56:55,246 --> 00:56:56,416

What are you doing this weekend?

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00:56:56,711 --> 00:57:00,401

-:

to get this, dissertation ready to upload.

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00:57:00,401 --> 00:57:02,296

-:

if you need any help, I'll, I'll

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00:57:02,296 --> 00:57:03,616

do my best with it, so lemme know.

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00:57:03,671 --> 00:57:05,096

-:

meeting with the, the, the.

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00:57:05,096 --> 00:57:07,466

Person who does that, next week.

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00:57:07,826 --> 00:57:11,276

And then I'm gonna do all of

that, and then I might send

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00:57:11,276 --> 00:57:13,196

it to you for a, a look over.

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00:57:13,441 --> 00:57:14,641

-:

Okay, no problem.

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00:57:14,641 --> 00:57:15,541

I'll do my best on it.

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00:57:15,811 --> 00:57:17,965

-:

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