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Episode 4013th November 2025 • Remember Why You Are Here • Asia Suler
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When we can understand the

ways in which our ancestors

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thought about themselves, about the

world, the way they experienced the world,

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the awareness in general

that they had access to,

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we reconnect with our potential as humans,

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and we reconnect with what's

possible for us in the future.

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So why don't you come

inside the caves with me.

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Hello and welcome back to

Remember Why You Are Here,

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a podcast for seekers and sensitives

where you can relax, receive,

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reconnect yourself,

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and remember the most important

thing of all - why you're here.

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I'm Asia Suler, author, earth intuitive,

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and very recently researcher who has

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skipped across the pond overseas

to research my next book.

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So if you've been following along

on the podcast or if you're over on

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my email list where I've been sharing

even more that I've been on sabbatical

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for the last several months

working on my next book. So in

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this very personal episode,

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I'm going to pull back the curtain

to reveal what I've been doing on my

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sabbatical, what this next

book is actually about,

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and I want to talk to you about this thing

that has been my special interest for

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the last six years,

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a time period that I truly

believe is here to guide us all,

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and that is the Upper Paleolithic.

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So have you ever had a dream come true,

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something you've been

wishing for, praying towards,

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putting on your altar, leaning

into dreaming about? Well,

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for me, this trip was a dream come true.

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I have been wanting to take

this trip to Southern France,

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to the Dordogne Valley,

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to visit these sites from

the Upper Paleolithic

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for six years. First the pandemic came in,

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and then I got pregnant

and I had my daughter,

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and I knew it was going to

take time before I was ready

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to take this trip,

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ready to be away from her.

This was the first time I had been

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away from my daughter for

longer than just a few days.

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So it was a really big deal for me.

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I just feel so blessed and honored

that this happened. Travel,

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especially solo travel,

especially pilgrimage,

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is really at the heart of who I am. It's

something that's so important to me.

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So getting to take this trip was just

absolutely unbelievably a dream come

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true,

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and it has really taken

me into the next phase of

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writing this next book. So in

this part of southern France,

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there is an unbelievable wealth of

archeological sites from this time period

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that we call the Upper Paleolithic.

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I was going there to visit these

caves, these painted caves,

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these caves that were anointed,

consecrated by our ancestors.

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For this next book,

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which I'm excited to talk

to you a little about,

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actually give you a little bit more about

what I am writing about. But first I

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want to ground us in what

is the Upper Paleolithic.

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If you're not familiar with that term,

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let's really dive in there

because it's so rich and

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so fascinating.

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And I really think once

we start connecting

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to those who I call the deep ancestors,

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it's almost like there's no going

back because we start to see ourselves

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differently. The Paleolithic as

a period of time is very vast.

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It goes from about 3 million years

ago until about 10,000 years ago.

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So that's a really big span of time,

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the specific period of time

that I have been studying,

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and that as at the heart of this

book is the Upper Paleolithic.

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So the Upper Paleolithic is a

timeframe from about 50,000 years ago

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to about 12 to 10,000 years ago.

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And this period of time is when we know

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humans,

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homosapiens spread around the world.

Left Africa

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went to literally every

corner of the globe.

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Homosapiens arrived in Europe

about 45,000 years ago,

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and when they arrived, they were

not alone. They, when they arrived,

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the continent was already inhabited

by Neanderthals and these humans had

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lived in Europe for hundreds

of thousands of years.

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So Europe at that time was

very different than Europe

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is now, because we were in the

midst of the last great ice age.

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So there were huge caps of ice that came

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really far down into

the consonant of Europe,

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and it made it so that it was really

the southern swath of Europe that

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was inhabitable,

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and that includes the

valleys of Southern France,

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and they would've looked

completely different than today.

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So this would've been cold step and tundra

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grasslands with huge herds

of animals, mammoths,

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reindeer, bison, aurochs, horses.

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Many of these beings

feature in the paintings in

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southern France in these caves, and I

want to talk about them in a little bit,

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but it's important to know

that the reason why there's

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such

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a dense accumulation of sites in

places like Southern France is because

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this is where the consonant itself was

inhabitable at that period of time.

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The humans who entered

Europe at that time,

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who around the world were

entirely modern humans.

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They were just like us.

We are the same in body,

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in nervous system, in brain, in soma,

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in imagination and creativity.

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And this is something that I

feel really passionate about

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talking about because so

many of us were handed such

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strong caricatures of what

it means to be a caveman

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growing up. And it's completely wrong.

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It's completely opposite

the reality of these

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incredibly sophisticated, intelligent,

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creative, innovated,

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frankly cosmopolitan people who spread

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throughout the world had the ability to

go to every single continent and bring

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with them just incredibly

intricate traditions

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of artistry, philosophy, adornment,

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ancestral wisdom, traditions that

likely stretched back millennia.

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So connecting with these deep ancestors

is actually incredibly potent and

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powerful for us. Now, they

have a lot to teach us now,

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and part of my passion for the last six

years has been learning about this time

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period and realizing that so much that I

had been handed about the deep past was

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completely wrong.

So we know that

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these deep ancestors were living

in hunting and gathering bands of

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about 20 to 40 people,

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but that they would also have times of

the year where they would meet up in

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really large groups, accumulations

of people for gatherings,

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for I imagine coming

together to flirt with one

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another and to make connections

and to trade and to trade

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ideas. We know that they had trade routes

that spread hundreds of miles to the

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coastlines,

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which at that time was much further out

than they are now because so much water

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in the world was locked up in those

glaciers that in order to receive,

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for example, seashells,

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which were a really popular trade

item at the time from the coast,

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we would've gone so much further in

order to be able to trade those items.

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So they had textiles,

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they had bead industry workshops,

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they had really sophisticated

painting tools, pigments,

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brushes,

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sponges for dobbing on the paint.

So I'm sharing

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all of this to just start to rewrite this

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really fossilized and

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frankly controlled narrative of

what our deep ancestors were like.

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A lot of what we're handed

this information when we

look at our deep ancestors

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is very much flavored by the colonial

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narrative that existed in European

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anthropology around the

turn of the last century.

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And so it's really important that we

start to unpack all of this and actually

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see just how profoundly intelligent,

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capable, creative, sophisticated

these deep ancestors are.

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We know they likely had larger brains

than us. They were taller than us,

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healthier than us.

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They had yet to develop all the

zoological diseases that we have now,

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and just like a tiny little example into

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the level of sophistication that they had,

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but also the level of leisure

time that they likely had.

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So this is something

that we guesstimate that

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likely they were only spending about

four hours of their day in subsistence

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activities and activities like gathering

food and preparing food and all of

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that. And so they had so much more

what we would call leisure time,

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but creativity, time, innovation

time. Here's just a little example.

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There is a really famous grave site

in Russia, the Sungir grave site,

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and there's a man and two

children buried there.

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There was so many beads in this grave

site. Thousands of beads each bead,

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each one of these beads that would've

likely been sewn onto their clothing took

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about 45 minutes to make.

If we think about that,

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the beads that were buried

with the two children,

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it would've taken around

3,500 hours to make that many

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beads. So this is just like

a portal into understanding

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this life way of our deep

ancestors, of our ancient ancestors.

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So I went to Southern France in

particular to visit the painted caves.

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If you've ever seen Werner Herzog's

film, cave of Forgotten Dreams,

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you're probably familiar with these caves,

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but there is an incredible

collection of caves,

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some of which are still open to

the public that feature paintings

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from this time period.

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So we're talking paintings from about

40,000 years ago to about 12,000

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years ago. So that's a

really vast period of time,

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and I want to bring your

attention, your awareness to that,

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that we're talking about a 30,000 year

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span of creating art

inside of these caves.

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And we're going to come back

to that in just a moment.

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But I want to talk for a second

about why these caves for me. Well,

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I had a vision six years

ago in a meditation

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where I actually came out of one of

these caves and was a little bit like,

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where am I? What's going on? This

wasn't even where I intended to go,

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and it sparked this huge passion in me for

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learning about these caves,

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learning about the art inside of these

caves who created them reading every book

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about the possible hypotheses of what

these different paintings represented or

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what they could mean.

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So the oldest known painted cave that

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has been discovered is

Chauvet Cave in France,

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and this is about 35 to 30,000 years old.

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So what's really interesting about Chauvet

is that up until its discovery in the

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nineties, the caves we

had discovered previously,

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like Lascaux for example,

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were much closer to the current day.

And so we had this assumption,

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which we tend to replicate a lot,

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this assumption that we evolved over

time and that we got more artistry,

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more skill, and that it was

sort of this upward projection.

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But when we found Chauvet,

this incredibly old cave,

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and we saw the intricate

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artistic skill inside this cave,

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it completely rewrote this whole

narrative about this trajectory of

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humanity just keeps evolving.

And we started out very basic,

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and now we're getting

more and more evolved.

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And actually what we're seeing is that

this intricate artwork that was created

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later on was just a continuation of

this tradition. And so in this way,

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everything's always moving in a cycle,

right? And it's good to question,

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to ask ourselves, is it that

we're continuing to evolve now?

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Or is it actually that

we're being asked to

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evolve and get in touch again

with the kind of intelligence,

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artistry and creativity

that we inhabited in the

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past? Are we more evolved

than our deep ancestors,

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or have we actually taken a step back

and there's a clarion call I feel

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inside of me now to reconnect

with these deep ancestors

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so that we can continue to evolve,

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but we can evolve in the way

perhaps humans were meant to evolve.

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We can remember that pathway. So what's

really interesting about these caves,

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and one of the reasons why they've been

so profoundly studied beyond the fact

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that they're exquisite and

absolutely stunning is because

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the artwork,

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the material from the

past has lasted so well.

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And this is something about the

archeological record. Things disappear.

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Things are lost, things get broken.

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What we know and what we can see is just

a tiny little sliver glimpse into the

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past that is completely based on

what survives thousands of years.

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So one of the things I do want to

point out here though is that there was

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a continuation in the artistic style,

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but also within the subject matter

during this entire timeframe,

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this 30,000 year timeframe.

So just to put this in perspective,

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Chauvet is as old compared

to Lascaux as Lascaux

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is to us today.

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So that right there is a

15,000 year time period.

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We're talking about more

than a thousand generations.

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We're creating art with

similar subject matter,

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similar animals, similar style.

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There were stylistic

conventions of the time.

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So we have to imagine that

whatever this culture,

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this belief system, this mythology was,

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and we'll never know for

sure what this mythology was,

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we can surmise at least

that as Gregory Curtis puts

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it in The Cave Painters,

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that it was so fulfilling and

profound that it lasted for more than

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20,000 years.

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We'd be hard pressed to find

anything within our culture,

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within our belief systems that have lasted

longer than maybe even just a handful

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of thousand years, let alone 20,000.

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So this is profoundly

interesting to me, right

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in a time where we feel so unfulfilled,

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many of us where we feel adrift,

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what was it that our deep

ancestors were attuned to,

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had the capability of seeing experiencing

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within themselves within the

world that was that fulfilling,

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that profound, that

anchoring, that meaningful,

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that an artistic tradition flourishing

out of that belief system lasted that

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long. So why don't you come

inside the caves with me?

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While I was in France,

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I got to visit seven different sites

at each one was completely different,

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but each one was also similar.

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Each one had similar themes,

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similar energy, but also

similar feeling to them.

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So all of these caves now have

doors set into their walls.

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One of the reasons why this particular

region and southern friends was so

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popular is that there are limestone

caves that make for really easy living.

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People at that time did

not live inside the caves.

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They lived in the rock shelters

on the outside of the caves.

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They lived in the south facing rock

shelters at the time. It was very cold.

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You would want the sunlight coming in.

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You'd want your fire at the mouth of

the rock shelter to be able to protect

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yourself and provide heat

because it was steppe tundra.

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You'd be able to be at the mouth

of this cave, this rock shelter,

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and look out over the entire

valley, which is a really cool,

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really thing to remember.

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This is the sight line that these

people had from their homes.

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We are pretty sure now that most of

these rock shelters were also elaborately

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decorated, but that has survived

because of weather and time.

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But what is deep inside

the caves has survived.

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So we know that these ancestors

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went very deep inside

these caves that they

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explored the length of a football

field down into the earth,

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and more that they went into these caves

and into some of the most difficult

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passages of these caves

with oil lamps that likely

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lasted around an hour and

a half, maybe two hours.

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These oil lamps were in their

simplest forms stone that had been

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carved out with animal fat and a wick,

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and they would carry the stone lamp

sometimes crawling on their bellies for a

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long time, deep, deep into these caves.

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So oftentimes they chose to create images

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in the deepest, darkest places.

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They chose to move beyond

the entryway deep into these

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caves.

And one of the most fascinating things

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I've found about being there in

person, because I've been researching,

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looking at pictures for so many

years now, but seeing it in person,

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you really understand that they

weren't creating these images

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like we create images now

where we have a blank canvas.

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They were co-creating

these images with the cave.

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So inside of these caves are

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incredibly,

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highly skilled depictions of bisons,

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horses, mammoths. There are aurochs,

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there are lions. Every once in a while,

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a caricature of a human.

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Humans were not very flushed out.

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They were not the center of this artistic

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tradition, which is an

interesting point unto itself.

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There are dots, there's symbols,

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there are spirals, there are hand prints.

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But what is interesting to me

is that the stars of the show

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are the animals by and large.

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And what they did is they looked

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for the ways in which these

animals were emerging from the cave

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walls. So rather than clearing

off a space that they could

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create themselves as

whoever the individual was,

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instead they looked for places in the cave

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walls and the drips of

minerals and the sheen of

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calcite that already

looked like an animal.

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And then at times, they drew the minimum,

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the minimum possible line

to just bring that shape

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out of the wall.

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And what's incredible is that you

often get one go at creating that line.

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And so these people must have practiced

for thousands of hours to be able

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to, with one stroke,

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so perfectly capture the exact form

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of a horse or the exact

outline of a buffalo.

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It's perfection is

astounding in many places.

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And they were masters at perspective.

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So they would draw things

specifically so that it could

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be seen in a particular way

from a particular angle.

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So at times they were aware of what

angle it was being looked at. They would

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create certain effects so that it would

look in proportion depending on where

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you were standing.

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They created distance and

depth with their artwork.

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They created techniques

like the trompe-l'œil effect

that we wouldn't see again

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until much later, until the explosion

of the Renaissance. In Europe,

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images were sometimes made to look

like they were coming out of a

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crack or they were rounding the

corner in a cave or that it looked

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different from one side versus another

that the face of an animal would

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transform. So from one angle it

would be a buffalo. And from another,

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it almost looks like a human profile.

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Artists would deliberately

abstract elements in the cave.

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So we know, and I mentioned this earlier,

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that humans were deliberately

abstracted, very much so on purpose,

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abstracted.

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There is no full depiction of a

human full realistic depiction of a

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human from head to toe anywhere within

these caves within this vast period of

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time. But they'd also deliberately

abstract things to have it look

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further in the distance, like your

eye wouldn't see as many details.

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So you deliberately

abstract part of an animal,

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set it behind another one so that you

can tell you're looking at a tableau.

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So there's this whole element here

inside the caves of interacting with

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the unseen and asking yourself

what is more important,

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what is seen versus what is hidden?

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Because once you go inside these caves

and you start to see the proliferation of

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these images,

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what they chose to bring out of the

stone to show you what they were

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seeing, you realize,

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you start to see animals everywhere.

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You start to see shapes and faces

absolutely everywhere you look.

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And so in this way, there

was this interaction,

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this playful interaction with the unseen.

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And this is something that I feel really

passionate about talking about because

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most of us, if we learned anything

about these caves growing up,

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it was that they were likely

some sort of hunting magic that

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was being performed.

And in most of this literature,

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talking about these caves as

hunting magic, as sympathetic magic,

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it's specifically proposed

that it was men inside of these

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caves making the images so that

they'd be successful in the hunts.

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But we know now that that is not true.

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So in certain time periods,

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some of the most depicted

animals, mammoths, horses, bison,

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were not the animals that people were

by and large eating during some of these

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time periods.

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90% of the bones that were

found in archeological

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digs are reindeer.

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People very easily were

subsiding off of reindeer.

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It was a super easeful life,

pretty sure about that. And yet,

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reindeer are actually not very commonly

depicted inside of these paintings.

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They're pretty rare. And so

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this whole idea that it was this one

specific purpose for the caves is

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completely incorrect.

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We also know through new research

that is actually able to measure

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hand and hand widths that the people

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inside these caves were

not predominantly men,

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but actually most of the hands that

we have measured are predominantly

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women,

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and that we know that there were

whole families going inside these

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caves that children created art,

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that baby's hands were

placed on the walls with

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careful outlines made of them.

So these places

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were actually much more communal,

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much more relational,

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much more egalitarian than

we had imagined before

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or than certain people

had imagined before.

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And also the depictions of

these animals inside the

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caves.

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What I want to express about it now after

having been there in person, is that

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the thing that touched me the most

is the depth of these animals'.

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Benevolence inside of

these animals' faces,

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they're drawn with such

sensitivity, such intelligence,

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such sentience. Each one

is their own character.

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Each single animal is their

complete own character.

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And instead of depicting

these animals as being

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struck down in a hunt, the thing that

we see over and over and over again,

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the most recurrent theme you

could say of these caves,

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our gentle meetings, gentle meetings,

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two animals or more, coming together,

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seeing one another

overlapping one another.

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This is another interesting

thing about the caves,

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is they didn't have the same conventions

around subject hood that we do.

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They weren't trying to just have

one image of one creature. In fact,

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it was clearly much more valued to see

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how they would overlap.

So there will be a horse on

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top of a bison, on top of an auroch,

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and they'd share certain lines

and other lines would branch out.

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And so it was actually way

more about the overlap,

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way more about the meeting, the singular,

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the individual,

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so much less important than

the meeting of these animals,

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the gentleness of

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a horse that is pregnant,

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a grave mare looking

out among her sisters,

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the tenderness of a male

reindeer licking the top

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of a female reindeer's head.

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So this completely rewrite

so much of what we're handed,

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this really like sketchy,

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incomplete,

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and inaccurate viewpoint that

were handed about our ancestors,

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what they created,

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what their mythology was based on

was so clearly something steeped

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in reverence for the sentience

of the living world of animals,

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of the individuality, of

characters, of these animals,

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of the sacredness, of gentle meetings.

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There's humor inside of these

caves. There's playfulness,

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and I'm here to report that

being inside the caves,

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we so often think that caves

are these scary places.

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They're dark and they're

dangerous and all of that.

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But my experience of

being inside these caves,

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especially times when we turned off

all the lights and we just sat there,

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it was wombic. I felt so held,

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I felt, I felt so

sheltered, I felt so seen.

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And so to me, walking through these caves,

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it actually was this experience of going

deeper into what felt like the hips of

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the earth, what really did feel like

this sheltering, welcoming, warm, womb

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space.

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And so I guess my invitation

in talking about this

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is to invite you deeper into

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your deep ancestors, into your past.

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And then to know that by

connecting with these deep ones,

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you're going into this place

that is not scary or fraught or

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so intensely different from you,

that it's difficult to connect,

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that it's actually going into

this more wombic like space,

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this space that is

sheltering, that is warm,

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that is inviting,

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that is filled with

benevolence and gentleness,

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and really this invitation

for gentle meetings.

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I'm feeling this very strongly as I'm

working on this book that there is a

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strong invitation

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back into a gentle meeting with

our own deep ancestors. And so

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this is what I've been working

on. This is what my book is about.

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My book is about the deep

ancestors, how they thought,

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thought about themselves, how

they thought about the world.

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It's about what I'm calling

paleolithic consciousness.

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How did these deep ancestors think?

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We know that the paleolithic

as a time period comprises 99%

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of human history.

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This is who we were for 99%

of our history and embody in

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Soma in brain and nervous system.

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We are exactly the same

as these deep ancestors.

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And so this call for me began about

six years ago, as I mentioned,

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to start understanding this time period

so I could start understanding the

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consciousness in whatever way I have

access to start understanding the

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consciousness of my own deep ancestors.

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And this is about understanding

the past for sure.

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It's about reconnecting

with these ancestors,

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these ancestors who I believe really

want to work with us. But it's also about

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the future.

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Because when we can understand

the ways in which our

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ancestors thought about

themselves, about the world,

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the way they experience the

world, the self-awareness,

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the awareness in general

that they had access to,

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we reconnect with our

potential as humans and

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we reconnect with what's

possible for us in the future.

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I've heard a lot of archeologists

say it's not a matter of

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if we will one day return to the

stone age, but a matter of when.

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That might be very far in the

future. It might not, who knows?

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But what I know is that for me,

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connecting with these deep ancestors

has opened up so many gateways,

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so many doorways for me has

opened up so many ways of

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thinking that I deeply need in my

own life to flourish. And what I see,

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the wisdom, the perspective, the

consciousness of our ancestors,

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what is being given to us,

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the messages that are coming through for

us now is it's like being given a lamp

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to move through whatever's to come,

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to move through whatever feels

dark or hidden before us.

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So this is what I've been working on.

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I imagine it might take me another

few years to be totally honest,

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to finish this book.

There's a lot I want to say.

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There's a lot I need to research.

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So it's feeling very tender

to talk about this book

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now and what it is that I'm creating,

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but it also feels so

life-giving to share this with

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you.

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I'm so grateful for all the ways in which

I've been supported on the sabbatical.

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I literally could not have done

this without all of your support.

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Every time you leave a rating,

every time you leave a review,

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every time you buy

something off the website,

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all of those things are just so profoundly

helpful for me in being able to do

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this. And I have so much

gratitude. Thank you, thank you,

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thank you for supporting me

in this. And I'm curious,

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as we are still in what

I consider so season,

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this season from the Celtic perspective

of connecting with the ancestors,

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I'm curious how this is landing with you,

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if it's stretching your understanding

of the time period in which you can

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connect with your ancestors in

which you can communicate with them.

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So if you want to share with me,

feel free to leave a comment here,

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or you can head on over to my website,

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asiasuler.com/remember

and leave me a voicemail.

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I love getting voice notes over there,

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and since I am so close now

to the end of my sabbatical,

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I'm excited to be diving back in there.

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I'm also going to be starting to create

new content for next year here on

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the podcast. If there's

something you want to suggest,

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something you're excited about,

please let me know about that.

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We are about to enter the holiday season.

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If you are feeling benefic and

would like to leave a review

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or some stars for this podcast, it helps

so much and it means so much to me.

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So thank you for listening.

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Thank you for being the

person that you are.

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This light coming from the deep past,

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you are one of the descendants

that your ancestors prayed for,

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and I'm so grateful that you're here.

I'm so grateful that we are doing this

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excavation together and this exploration

and this pilgrimage deeper into life.

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And may what I shared today. And may,

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what's opening for you within your

connections with your own deep ancestors,

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just lead you deeper into

the meaning of your own life,

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into the kind of fulfillment that

is awaiting you in this lifetime

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and into that deep remembering of

the most important thing of all

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why you're here.

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