Many Planets have been suggested to be the "ruler" of astrology, but what is astrology's one true king? Astrologer Joe G joins the show to settle the dispute, and discuss the ways each of the Planets relates to the practice of astrology.

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Kyle Pierce: 00:00:05

Hello and welcome to astrology hotline. The podcast we answer all your birth chart and astrology questions. Joining me today is Joe G. (Joe G: Hello. Hello. Hello) And how are you doing

Joe G.: 00:00:18

I am good. sniffling with allergies but feeling great. Just meant to me started not too long ago, it was amazing to me a lot of the astrology peeps. So coming off of that Hi really started

Kyle Pierce: 00:00:41

sounds like a wonderland. When my son was like three, I took them to was called Great Wolf Lodge up in Traverse City. And I remember we got there at like, one o'clock in the morning.

Joe G.: 00:01:26

I honestly cried every day I was there. And this is my cancer, sun and rising. But I'm just I've been learning astrology for a while. And a lot of these people are just in my computer, you

Kyle Pierce: 00:01:49

It's feeling like such a big missing piece for me, like more and more now that like everybody else is getting to do it. getting jealous. Yeah. Well, next year. Let's go. Oh, yeah, it's

Kyle Pierce: 00:02:55

I got excited by this question, just because just because I get to do my favorite thing, which is to be like, well, everybody says this, but it's actually this. But even with that kind of perspective,

Joe G.: 00:03:40

No, you go for it.

Kyle Pierce: 00:03:41

Yeah. But maybe we'll start with the simple answer, which

Joe G.: 00:03:46

the simple answer is, of course, Mercury. Mercury. is far from mercury. Yes. out of the gate, if anyone wants to fight with me, we'll see each other after Mars leaves. And it's not even

Kyle Pierce: 00:04:07

Yeah. And even I mean, Mercury makes intuitive sense. In that it's the interpreter of symbols. And what is astrology but a set of symbols, which we interpret as astrologers and

Joe G.: 00:04:23

And that actually, like, brings a very interesting I guess, fact, I don't know if we can call it fact. But I just don't want to butcher the name. But there's this guy. And bizarre I think

Joe G.: 00:05:39

responsible for astrology. And although Mercury is the planet that rules astrology, Mercury is not the third participating triplicity ruler of any of the triplet cities. So, by this technique, using

Kyle Pierce: 00:06:36

think that's actually a really good way of looking at it, because mercury, and it's been helpful for me to just to kind of for a while, I was kind of leaning heavily, too heavily on

Kyle Pierce: 00:07:47

wouldn't have any of it. Without mercury, because, you know, you you need mercury to take the sources of information and translate it, translate them. Yeah, yeah.

Joe G.: 00:07:59

And even the first thing I think you're going into outer planet territory, any reason for thinking about that, like we can even see the outer planets with our Mercury, because mercury are

Kyle Pierce: 00:08:30

Yeah. And well, I want to jump to Uranus. But I like that you vote at the ninth house, because that is probably one of the primary least house topic areas that I would look for astrology

Kyle Pierce: 00:09:41

in that in that context, you get, you get the mercury component.

Joe G.: 00:09:46

I think it's also fair to say that Mercury does not just translate the sun or the moon, I think it's, it would be doing a disservice to not talk about the connection, Steven moon and

Kyle Pierce: 00:10:52

They're all there. And they're like, the fastest moving. But like, traditionally, we'd look at the moon and Mercury really, for kind of the, the mind of the individual. And think about

Joe G.: 00:11:26

Who you are is very much defines character.

Kyle Pierce: 00:11:29

Well, yeah, it's, it's, it's and that's very mercurial territory is like Holding, holding those two opposites. They're both true. You know? I think that's because I, I also think you

Joe G.: 00:12:03

Yeah. And I think our approach to astrology in modern times is a lot more jovial than it used to be, because I think Mercury being completely neutral. It has now like, yeah, your father's

Joe G.: 00:13:16

astrology that that person or have that have that thing? You know?

Kyle Pierce: 00:13:21

I like that you brought that up, because, you know, traditionally it was mercury and Saturn was what would make aspects between Mercury and Saturn or, you know, configurations, strong

Joe G.: 00:13:56

this person surviving?

Kyle Pierce: 00:13:58

Nah, yeah. But Jupiter would have that approach of like, well, you know, how can we work with this? You know, what, what do you need? How do we make the best out of this? How do we

Joe G.: 00:14:43

actually if you're not rich. If you're rich, you can get away yeah, oh, yeah,

Kyle Pierce: 00:14:48

totally. But now there's, you know, there's a lot

Joe G.: 00:14:51

we can do. And it's also also goes to say, if we're talking about Jupiter's role in astrology, I think it's also the accessibility that we have Today, like, anyone can get an astrology

Kyle Pierce: 00:15:45

Yeah, okay. Yeah, and the precision to like, Saturn is good at weeding out. anything really, but ideally, you know, the stuff that doesn't serve the the bullshit, or something I've been

Kyle Pierce: 00:16:55

manifestation of that given placement to exist in, but also like, what's going to be relevant to the person? And you know, what did they ask for what, you know, what did? What did they come in for, and

Joe G.: 00:17:12

And I think Saturn too, if we're thinking about how Saturn would do astrology, it's that like, sense of, if you don't want to know don't ask, yeah, Saturn definitely be a little bit more of

Kyle Pierce: 00:18:01

yeah, when you get but you'd also get Jupiter to just kind of an interesting

Joe G.: 00:18:07

as a participating Lord for fire. He would be Jupiter would be the copywriting so like whatever the opposite side depends on the sector. The by all tonight, gar it's like the third or

Kyle Pierce: 00:18:34

during the day, right. Day, by day, Saturday and Jupiter by night for firefight signs

Joe G.: 00:18:41

for fire. It's sun by day, Jupiter by night. And then Saturday cooperating.

Kyle Pierce: 00:18:47

That's right. I just ended up sort of hitting the

Joe G.: 00:18:51

luminaries. Yeah. Yeah, I used to do that a lot too. Because there are so many like things where the luminaries are just like, Oh, they're just rule everything. We won't give them these.

Kyle Pierce: 00:19:02

Yeah, I mean, I guess I just tend to eat. I don't over emphasize or over emphasize, I probably under emphasize triplicity quite a bit. I tend to look at it as kind of like well, okay, so

Kyle Pierce: 00:20:12

how much we're supposed to know maybe about what the fates have in store. It's almost like the deeper you go into it, the more you try to try to reach too far into the meaning of everything, you

Joe G.: 00:20:31

there are things that cannot be explained or cannot be said or told. Yeah, maybe mercury and Pisces is very good at that. And I like tapping and understanding those places, but not everyone

Kyle Pierce: 00:21:01

Yeah, understanding something and communicating it to another person. Having a thought and translating it to something different than conveyed to someone else are two very different

Joe G.: 00:21:14

and one of the cool things too, like, I don't know if this is this is what we're doing now. But going by triplicity Lords then the moon would be the cooperating triplicity ruler of water. So

Joe G.: 00:22:25

to like really focus on how can I say what it is that needs to be said, and that person can understand it, but also giving like, sort of ways to feel comfortable through of that whole thing.

Kyle Pierce: 00:22:46

Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I was thinking about the high priestess in Tarot. Which leave us get the stuff wrong, but the is the third card. In the Tarot, and the Major Arcana it is. Yeah, I

Joe G.: 00:23:15

yes. Oh, and I'm so glad you mentioned that. Because also like ritualistic practices and yeah, worshipping and devotional practice, which is also a big part of my astrology. Oh,

Kyle Pierce: 00:23:27

yeah. When I guess I think of when I think of the astrology that the moon would do, sort of on its own. I almost think of that more. necessarily astrology but astrology, like, but like

Kyle Pierce: 00:24:33

that you end up having to do with astrology. I think like you can technique the hell out of a chart. But you have to kind of go to that intuitive. That moon place that lunar sphere, where it's like,

Joe G.: 00:25:08

Yeah, and I think you with what they usually say about the moon, how she can, like hang out with the kings and hang out with the the labs and the people. Yeah, I think that that's also another

Kyle Pierce: 00:25:41

Yeah, I get jealous of Capricorns sometimes, because I know, that can be like a Leo quality too, like they are just who they are all the time. But my Capricorn will have almost like a,

Joe G.: 00:26:17

And I was just thinking is there is Venus, not the participating triplicity Lord of any of the triplicity is, because I said in the beginning that it was only mercury. But I'm thinking that

Kyle Pierce: 00:26:30

also participates participating in water. She could be participating in earth, but I'm,

Joe G.: 00:26:37

oh, no, actually, it's just an earth the participating ruler is Mars. So Venus and Mercury are the two planets that cannot be tied to like an individual's sense of astrology ninth house,

Joe G.: 00:27:58

being in that ritual space and bringing, like a new and being the priest or the priestess that, that facilitates the birth of spirit into an incarnate form. And I think that that's a very Venusian sort

Kyle Pierce: 00:28:32

Yeah.

Joe G.: 00:28:34

And yeah, that to me seems like much more Venusian and like facilitating role even thinking about like, the way that we do astrology these days, like the one on one sort of like Libra. Like

Kyle Pierce: 00:28:56

yeah, yeah. Thinking can we got five thoughts right now? All right, first one let's go I was thinking with Saturn is right you get that sort of harsh boundary keeper like like you were

Kyle Pierce: 00:30:11

And it makes a ton of sense especially because I always think of the like Anglican church or Catholic Church the like they have different robes for different masses and like there's this whole

Joe G.: 00:30:46

sort of in a marriage with God. Yeah,

Kyle Pierce: 00:30:48

exactly. Like, yeah, the, like you said, I don't think use the word gatekeeper. But that facilitating the connection between God and men, right? And women, humans. And that being a big

Kyle Pierce: 00:32:05

gonna die and Exactly. People

Joe G.: 00:32:09

getting eaten by dogs and these sorts of other things. Exactly. I find that hilarious.

Kyle Pierce: 00:32:21

But that's why you need like Venus sort of to like, soften it. And even like, yeah, humor in it. But I think the last thing I was gonna say is the weird

Joe G.: 00:32:30

laughter loving

Kyle Pierce: 00:32:31

queen. That's right. The moon loves horses, too. By the way, I was going to ask you about that. It's totally unrelated. That might have actually came up for Venus to what I was trying

Joe G.: 00:32:47

up in the the sun one, the Venus one on the moon one, I think. And I think that lava horses is a reference to the sun, because of course, yeah. Related to the sun. Yeah, so I decided

Kyle Pierce: 00:33:06

I was gonna say though, the weird sort of overlap there can be with Venus and Mercury, which is kind of surprising since Venus showed hate each other. And yet, they do so many of the same

Joe G.: 00:33:23

that's probably why they hate each other. You do it? Yeah. Can you make it pretty pleased? To work? Yeah. It's like, what is it? The the old tale of a designer and an architect?

Kyle Pierce: 00:33:39

Oh, yeah, that's a hadn't heard that one. But that's a perfect Oh, really?

Joe G.: 00:33:44

Oh, that's arts cool. Jokes for you. But having gone through all the planets,

Kyle Pierce: 00:33:54

not the only one we haven't as Mars. And yeah, that's a hard one to find. A obvious rule for I

Joe G.: 00:34:01

find Horry now just because of the book, the martial art of horror, I think it's called. But I find that horror is actually very martial martial arts. See, I think that's what the book is

Joe G.: 00:35:13

whereas Mars with worry, I guess it would be those like very, very in the moment small I need to make a decision right now. And even there's the sense of like, what is the critical question? Is

Kyle Pierce: 00:35:51

well, like the just the outcome orientation of like, Korea in particular. It's like, yeah, you know, I want to know the answer to this question. What is the that's very Mars is just

Joe G.: 00:36:07

Yes. Well, should

Kyle Pierce: 00:36:08

I just want the answer to the question?

Joe G.: 00:36:10

Give it to a lie when the war, you know, yeah, exactly.

Kyle Pierce: 00:36:15

But it is interesting. How Mars will show up at like in the Kaldi in order. Starting like from Aries, right, you like the deck ends, you get, oh, Mars, Deccan, and then it ends with the

Kyle Pierce: 00:37:35

if, depending on the question, like, is the seventh house better situated than the first house, you know, that will tell you who's going to, you know, when this does, there's definitely a martial

Joe G.: 00:38:00

Yeah. And I think to about how sometimes I forget, I want to cite this because it might not represent the entire Vedic tradition, but I think it was Dr. Dr. Shankar at a wall. So yeah, sounds

Kyle Pierce: 00:39:19

Yeah. And math is very decisive. Like the questions that you answer are very definitively what they are, and to the exclusion of everything else. Like you literally can only

Joe G.: 00:39:44

my fiance is on those all. Like, this makes no sense. I do math without numbers.

Kyle Pierce: 00:39:53

It but I always think of mercury as being tied to math because it's math is only one language. But I mean, you're always looking at, again, like you with any one topic or subject like

Kyle Pierce: 00:41:04

planets will be better at at a given job than others? Yeah, but you can sort of work all of them into it. In theory.

Joe G.: 00:41:12

Yeah, that's why I think it was important for us to walk through all of the planets and, and to see how all of them relate to astrology, because they all do, but Mercury is the astrology.

Kyle Pierce: 00:41:27

Yeah, Mercury is

Joe G.: 00:41:29

the manager of astrology. Yeah. And all the other planets are together. Yeah, they're, they're helping out there. They're the workers.

Kyle Pierce: 00:41:38

That remind me though, we've still got to mention the outer planets, because they are very popular as rulers of astrology. Yes, I've heard all of them. And

Joe G.: 00:41:49

yeah, they all have like a very, like a very extensive history of being linked to astrology. Yeah. And I think that, and I don't know how I feel about that. Because I think that a

Joe G.: 00:43:03

more scientific and they will pull apart like old pieces of astrology to create something new. I think that that's the maybe the role of Uranus in astrology as also like an outer planet and ruling

Kyle Pierce: 00:43:37

Yeah. I'm sort of regretting sexually Uranian astrology is probably one of the schools I know the least about. And I intended to do some research before recording this, but I didn't do

Joe G.: 00:43:53

I think Ukrainian astrology is vibrational astrology.

Kyle Pierce: 00:43:56

Yeah. Yeah, it might be I don't want to speak to it too much. Because I Yeah, well, most likely, you're wrong. But I was thinking about it in terms of how even like, Well, I still kind

Kyle Pierce: 00:45:14

direction in life. Yeah, I know when I got my first like really amazing astrology reading was like, oh like wow, I I must learn more and it definitely did end up changing my trajectory in a big way.

Joe G.: 00:45:36

became an astrologer under a Uranus transit to not thinking about that.

Kyle Pierce: 00:45:42

I'm trying to think of mine I don't know your honest transits are so long it's it's hard for me to find actually I don't know if I paid attention to Uranus at the time, but um where

Kyle Pierce: 00:46:14

Yeah, and then, Neptune. I've heard you associate with astrology maybe less often?

Joe G.: 00:46:21

I feel like the No, I feel like I keep cutting you off you go first. Oh, no,

Kyle Pierce: 00:46:26

I'm just gonna say like that. Yeah, I guess Astrology can sort of have that that mystical Neptunian quality and sort of dissolve the boundary between, you know, what, what we think

Kyle Pierce: 00:47:39

game changing for me. But I almost want to say that the way that Neptune can be problematic for mercury, it can be problematic for astrology sometimes, where were you, when you grab too much of

Joe G.: 00:48:25

Yeah, cuz I think when you like earlier when we were talking about like Moon Astrology, and we talked about intuitive astrology, that's the kind of astrology that I would really attribute to

Joe G.: 00:49:35

confused. Yeah. But maybe you'll come up with an answer.

Kyle Pierce: 00:49:41

Yeah. Yeah.

Joe G.: 00:49:44

Because Oh, no, no, yeah. Go for it.

Kyle Pierce: 00:49:46

I think I was cutting you off that time. Oh, no, it's

Joe G.: 00:49:49

because I was gonna say that we talked about earlier. I don't know if if we talked about this while we were recording it or not, but I'm working on that. I proposed dignity system for the

Joe G.: 00:51:01

Jupiter's God sort of thing. And, and to then think of what the like, I guess, because there's always the opposition. So like, what would the detriment or the fall of this warship be like? And

Joe G.: 00:52:10

you just can't and think that, that that's a very good way to explain why this sort of like tension exists between Mercury and Neptune.

Kyle Pierce: 00:52:21

Yeah, well, you get that often actually, with like, the opposite planet in any sort of relationship that they they do actually sort of play the sort of joint role on many, many important

Kyle Pierce: 00:53:32

at all. I mean, that will inevitably happen during a consultation, but I'm, yeah, to Mercury and Saturn before, wants you to know, like, I want to, you know, know as much as I can beforehand or

Joe G.: 00:54:26

Technology Mario

Kyle Pierce: 00:54:29

might be about right. Yeah, it could be right. I don't know. But somebody did it. It was a group of people. Yeah, you've actually but then even when you're like studying the dickens to

Kyle Pierce: 00:55:44

I guess that's, that's gotta be the Neptune component.

Joe G.: 00:55:47

Yeah, I don't think any other planet really does that. Yeah. That's really one of the things and I'm like, that's what we need Neptune for, ya know. But Pluto them again,

Kyle Pierce: 00:56:03

Pluto,

Joe G.: 00:56:04

which political for me is like the most easy like evolutionary astrology is just is so focused on Pluto is that it's like, that's Pluto's astrology. Yeah, and really, that sort of, like,

Kyle Pierce: 00:56:51

Yeah and Pluto, right like it is. I know that evolutionary astrologers sort of be treated as kind of that is almost like a the with Vedic Astrology we'll use the moon is sort of like

Joe G.: 00:57:43

took up 10 limit?

Kyle Pierce: 00:57:45

Well, if you think of it as like the, in the sort of ancient G's ancient cosmology, you had the soul sort of descending from the heavens, or entering into the solar sphere, and pudo being

Joe G.: 00:58:09

And that's kind of weird, though. Because like, now they keep adding more and more planets, because there's like, oh, man, oh, yes. And all of those. And I'm like, which one is the first stop?

Kyle Pierce: 00:58:20

Yeah, well, it sort of shows up with like, Plutonian themes and stuff. And I just, we have to draw a boundary somewhere. And I guess I'm more open to the idea that that can change. You

Joe G.: 00:58:41

is gonna get longer again. Yeah, yeah.

Kyle Pierce: 00:58:45

But even just like Pluto, and like the idea of Hades and like the underworld and going back to the place from which you came, you know, when when you die, you go to the underworld, right?

Joe G.: 00:58:59

but even in, like, what is it in Cobla? Studies, there's the rethinking about Chaldean order and things like nine, two, there is dots, like that space where it's emptiness and the void.

Kyle Pierce: 00:59:35

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Is it nothing or is it a bunch of shit that we don't? Isn't doesn't belong to our

Joe G.: 00:59:45

sphere? Yeah.

Kyle Pierce: 00:59:49

But even just maybe thinking about it in those terms of the evolutionary component of Pluto and how it's a way that I tend to look at the outer planets more and more as sort of altering

Joe G.: 01:00:43

no, but I think that if we're speaking of astrology and Pluto's role in astrology, I think it is like the fact that Shakeology does transcend these sort of times and these really long. Yeah,

Kyle Pierce: 01:01:28

By introducing this mutation into the organism, you know, will it Yeah, turn inside out and die? Or will it?

Joe G.: 01:01:34

Yeah, similar to like with Uranus, and like, adding in the new things, and the asteroid and all of that. And I think Pluto also adds in the new but it asks a question that Uranus might not. If

Kyle Pierce: 01:02:28

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I love that actually, natural selection. Because that is such a component of evolution. And I, there's so many themes that come up around Pluto that point to

Joe G.: 01:03:15

Yeah, what survives corruption? Like that's, that's the good thing. Yeah, the thing, okay.

Kyle Pierce: 01:03:22

Or you have to take something to an extreme to highlight what is and is not useful about something. Which I often find that I use that mode of thinking, in astrology a lot is like, in

Joe G.: 01:04:35

body planets. Yeah.

Kyle Pierce: 01:04:41

Oh, getting off track. Yeah, there being something to drawing distinctions with Pluto and doing it in a way that is sort of messed up and painful and too much sometimes, but that can

Joe G.: 01:04:59

I think Have it as the sun to, like Pluto's relationship to the sun. And, again, I'm gonna bring in my my talk, just because I'm like really deep in talking about if we, if we continue with

Kyle Pierce: 01:05:53

a testing ground. Yeah,

Joe G.: 01:05:55

so it to see the sun and thinking about like that with the sun too. And the whole combustion process and having planets like disappear and quote unquote, die temporarily and then

Kyle Pierce: 01:06:32

what and what is, in reality, our biggest source of radiation, like the end of the day, it's

Joe G.: 01:06:37

the Sun Sun.

Kyle Pierce: 01:06:40

It was like an artificial like, you know, the fusion in the fission in the ways we maybe try to replicate the power of the sun. But sun actually does, has that Pluto in its core, if

Joe G.: 01:06:55

And even historically, to if we think about Pluto, the God was linked to gold and precious things and anything that's below the ground and wealth. Pretty Trump all very Jovie not drove us

Kyle Pierce: 01:07:14

And that's what maybe leads me back to mercury to a little bit with Pluto is that it? Has this relationship with all the planets that makes it hard for me to like decide like, Oh, which

Joe G.: 01:07:54

And I like that you bring the sun Mercury thing too, because like, Mercury is tidally locked to the sun, like Pluto's moon Charon is also tidally locked to Pluto. Yeah, yeah. So it

Kyle Pierce: 01:09:06

yeah, well, there's like a death process to it as well. Like it is dispelling of illusions, even like about yourself and often you you know, learn the most about yourself either

Kyle Pierce: 01:09:29

where you're sort of set in contrast to something else, but often in relationships to

Kyle Pierce: 01:09:38

in relationships, like II, you know, you learn about yourself through what you are not, or the people show you even elements of yourself that maybe you didn't think were there based on like what

Joe G.: 01:10:12

So white heart. No, it

Kyle Pierce: 01:10:15

might be like in contrast to like a kind of reddish like the red. Yeah. Yeah, but it's

Joe G.: 01:10:20

hard to have ice.

Kyle Pierce: 01:10:22

Yeah.

Joe G.: 01:10:26

Cuz I don't know if you know, Pluto apparently has ice volcanoes, which Oh, yeah, the coolest things I've ever heard about. I think series also has nice volcanoes. Cool.

Kyle Pierce: 01:10:40

I know. I want to know what to do with series and all this because I feel like series should be more relevant. And yet I still don't. Yeah, I've been trying to study. Look at its

Joe G.: 01:11:32

awesome in love with that movie. But that's besides the point. It wasn't like an

Kyle Pierce: 01:11:36

objectively good movie. I found it interesting. Just because I like the villains side stories. I like villains. They're they're interesting to me. And I like when they're explored in

Joe G.: 01:11:46

Cancer isn't in there. Capricorn seven Pat's.

Kyle Pierce: 01:11:53

Me love you Saturn. No, there's something underneath that.

Joe G.: 01:12:00

Let me fix you. Yeah. Cancer two, I just want everyone to know. Yeah, but I think we we made it we went out to

Kyle Pierce: 01:12:20

planets. And I think we did a mini planets episode probably in the process. Yeah, we did. Yeah. But that's probably a good place to wrap it up. I'm realizing it's yeah, we spent over an

Joe G.: 01:12:32

I think I think we did. And I think we also give people a lot of resources to look at their own chart even. Yeah, look, I like that. Third, participating in word of your night class, and you

Kyle Pierce: 01:13:05

Yeah, you can. Yeah, please share your your thoughts like tell us what's going on with your ninth house and how you came into astrology. How you relate to astrology, how you use it, even.

Joe G.: 01:13:27

Yes, I'm on Mars starfish. And I am not allowed to tweet until March of 2023. Message please make it a DM otherwise, I will not answer.

Kyle Pierce: 01:13:43

Yeah, you can DM Jo G. What's your

Joe G.: 01:13:47

Twitter my it's Astro Boy with an eye Joe G all together? And yes.

Kyle Pierce: 01:13:56

You can also I forget. And I probably shouldn't put the podcast has the Twitter as well. And I will see it if you tag the astrology hotline and a tweet but you can also shoot us an

Joe G.: 01:14:31

Well, I have Kazumi con coming up soon with my talk on a proposed rulership system for the outer planets like I've mentioned it a couple of times. Do I talk about what the talk is about?

Joe G.: 01:15:44

Pluto, who doesn't and those sorts of like fun explorations and how to tie all that into the 12 parts and seeing the outer planets move to through the tough parts and using that as a way to

Kyle Pierce: 01:16:09

It's really cool. I Do I Do I participate in participating or how do I get to view or listen to this?

Joe G.: 01:16:19

I believe it's free. And you can follow them on Twitter. Give me a second I I think their handle is just gazini Khan. And if you search because they are probably going to find it. Oh yeah,

Kyle Pierce: 01:17:35

Now it's a shame that you can't that you're not on the on the Twitter right now because you shared some of the your beautiful AI generated images. Yesterday and yesterday were amazing and

Joe G.: 01:17:51

they will be shared. Right now I'm playing with like building my own style because you can feed your own artwork to the AI and learn how to make art like you know, wow, I'm taking that this

Kyle Pierce: 01:18:38

I'm excited I am waiting for you to start commercializing your talisman making because I don't have time to learn it yet, but I'm now that I'm learning the Dekins and like getting really

Joe G.: 01:19:03

That best learning experience and I say this for you and everybody is when you fuck up when you're talisman that ruins everything you're like, Oh, I get it now.

Kyle Pierce: 01:19:12

I've already had to learn everything that way though. Can I think I can learn by now?

Joe G.: 01:19:18

It would be great if we could. Yeah, I'm not sure

Kyle Pierce: 01:19:22

what's gonna be the hard way. All right, well, what

Joe G.: 01:19:26

are you up to?

Kyle Pierce: 01:19:27

Ah, I am doing just lots of detail work right now. I'm trying to get my ace site like functioning right I've been flooded, boring stuff. It's not like fun sexy stuff of astrology.

Kyle Pierce: 01:20:43

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Kyle Pierce: 01:21:46

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