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, and just started sharing
all of this stuff and it.
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It was really fascinating to learn
both about the octopus, which was what
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we decided to center the story on.
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But then also in parallel to that,
learning about ocean plastics and.
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That whole side of things
was very eye opening too.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Super eye opening.
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Like some of the things that I've learned
about ocean plastics, the great Pacific
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plastic patch, you know, that huge mound
of plastic that's just floating out there.
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That's bigger than Texas like that just.
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Blew my mind that that's real.
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And I guess there's one in the Atlantic
too, that rivals the Pacific one in size.
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And it just, you realize all
the creatures that it affects,
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like the octopus and I heard OC
occupy are really smart creatures.
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Actually, they really are.
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They actually have the IQ and capacity
of like a two year old human child
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or like a dog, the trainability of a.
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So they're really fascinating creatures.
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They're mischievous.
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They can like, they keep track of
people that have wronged them, or
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like, there's this story of an octopus
in an aquarium where one of the
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trainers or the workers, it didn't
like this worker for whatever reason.
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So every time the worker would
turn his or her back to walk
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away, it would spit water at it.
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It was truly upset with this
worker and doing it on purpose.
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They found.
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So yeah, Actify are, are
super fascinating creatures.
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And like one of the many creatures
under the ocean that are so smart,
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like we look at, you know, dolphins
and whales and all these even sharks
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are finding how this intelligence
that we never give them credit for.
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It's just makes me really sad how we.
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You know, polluting their
home so that they're, they're
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not even standing a chance.
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Yeah, I completely agree.
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I think that was one of the eye-opening
pieces of knowledge that I learned
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throughout creating this script.
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Once we decided to choose an activist as
our main character, which we chose because
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of some of the things Tanya mentioned of
it being mischievous and smart, and we
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just thought it would be a fun character.
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We were looking at where.
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This octopus should live.
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And I don't know where an
octopus would typically live.
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I don't know much about it.
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So I started doing research and it
did not take long to learn that many
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are living in human trash right now.
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And.
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There are a lot of pictures of it, a
lot of information on it, but with human
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trash becoming increasingly common in the
ocean, sometimes it's easier to find than
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something like a seashell for a home.
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So, Tanya, I don't know if you knew
that before, but I know for me that was.
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that was a big moment to,
to learn more about that.
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No, absolutely.
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It was eye opening and we, I think we
kind of jokingly were feeling really bad
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about collecting seashells and stuff.
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Um, because we learned that that's an
actual problem for octopus, that they
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sometimes will wear like shells to
cover themselves or protect themselves.
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And they're not able to find.
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Them as much anymore.
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So they'll, they've started using ocean
plastics and coffee hands and, and
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things that are, that make their way
from landfills to the bottom of the sea.
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So it's very sad.
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Yeah.
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And then on top of those potentially
harming them, like there was one
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picture that I remember from the
beginning of our research where
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an octopus was living inside of a.
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Piece of broken glass.
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So on top of something like that,
potentially hurting them, some of the
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ocean plastics can be leaking chemicals
that are harmful for them as well.
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So was it hard to write it
so that it relates to kids?
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Like this is such a huge problem
and it feels really daunting.
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Like all these, all this plastic in
the oceans, like how is it to write
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something that would relate to.