00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:11 Monday Motivation with Jolt and Surge
02:41 G3 Conference Controversy
05:52 Lessons from Leadership Failures
07:35 Bible Talk: 2 Samuel 19-21
10:14 David's Leadership and Final Battles
19:13 Concluding Prayer and Farewell
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Hey everybody.
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:Welcome back to another edition
of the Daily Bible Podcast.
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:It's Monday and we're
happy to have you here.
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:Thank you for doing this.
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:We're glad to join you
in your Bible reading.
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:Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:Can a privilege actually,
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:Rod: yeah.
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:Mondays are a great opportunity
to jump into the word and and to
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:jumpstart things because it's hard
sometimes to get up on Monday and
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:get after what's in front of us.
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:PJ: Dude, lemme just tell you, I started
going back to my caffeine habit again.
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:Yeah.
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:On the, in the mornings, and it's changed.
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:Transformative, formative.
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:Yeah.
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:I think I, man, I don't
know what I was doing.
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:I was wrong.
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:I, now that I'm back to it.
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:I'm just thinking this is the
way life is supposed to be.
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:It's a common grace.
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:It is so good.
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:Man, I just, I, we were talking about
Surge and what was the other one?
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:Jolt.
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:Jolt.
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:Those probably had 60 grams of caffeine.
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:I don't know.
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:In fact, let's find out what was the
caffeine content of Jolt and Surge?
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:Those were back in the
what, two thousands?
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:Yeah.
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:Nineties.
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:I'm gonna guess 150 milligrams.
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:Content of Jolt.
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:Let's do Jolt.
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:Okay.
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:That 'cause that one had they were trying
to say we have a lot of caffeine in this.
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:I'm pretty sure these were 12 ounce cans.
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:I know S was, yes.
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:Okay.
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:The caffeine content of Jolt Cola
varies on the size of the can.
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:So a 12 ounce can?
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:Normal can, right?
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:Yep.
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:71 milligrams.
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:Ooh, wow.
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:71.
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:You don't even, I don't, I think decaf
coffee has that much caffeine in it now.
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:Now, yeah.
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:And, okay.
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:What was the other one?
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:Jolt.
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:Jolt.
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:Okay.
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:In search, probably the
same amount I would imagine.
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:51 what?
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:51 milligrams.
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:That's an irregular caffeine drink today.
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:Rod: So just to put that in
perspective for everybody, bang
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:right is an energy drink and I
don't know how big those cans are.
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:16 ounce.
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:16 ounce can of bang has 300 milligrams.
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:That's six cans of surge.
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:PJ: Yeah.
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:That's insane.
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:That's why I stick with monsters,
which only has 150 milligrams.
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:Bang is on a day where I'm really
struggling bang will mess with you.
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:My
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:Rod: pre-workout drink has three 50.
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:That's insane.
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:Three 50.
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:That's insane.
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:PJ: Oh,
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:Rod: I, I remember there was one time
I drank a bang back in California
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:before going up to, to preach.
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:In in the bridge in our college ministry.
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:And it was like the first time
that I had one you and floating.
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:I, no, I got down and my heart was
like, it was like race afterwards.
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:I sat down, afterwards and my
wife was next to me and she
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:was like, you're gonna be okay.
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:I was like I have no idea.
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:I think I'm done.
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:Yeah, this could be it, sweetheart.
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:PJ: Tachycardia.
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:Yeah, so obviously we drink
a lot of caffeine today.
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:We drink a lot of caffeine today.
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:It's a common grace of God.
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:C can you overdo it?
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:Yes.
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:Yes you can.
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:And your body will tell you, interestingly
enough, for most people, you'll know
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:when you're having too much, when
it actually has the reverse effect,
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:you start getting sleepy and tired.
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:Your body starts saying, this is too
much and I can't cooperate with this.
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:Shut down.
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:Or like you, you have heart palpitations.
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:Yeah.
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:And that could be really pretty scary.
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:Rod: Yeah, I can.
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:No, for sure.
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:Speaking of heart palpitations, yes,
that's an interesting transition.
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:Some of you may be familiar with G three.
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:G three is a church network and
it's stepped in, in the void of,
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:together for the gospel, together
for the gospel was a conference that
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:was put on every other year and it
was held in Louisville, Kentucky.
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:And our church got to go to it.
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:Our sending church got
to go to it a few times.
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:It was real sweet, just a time of our
church to spend time with other churches.
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:And the whole idea was, as the
name would imply, that we're coming
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:together for the common gospel.
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:We're setting aside secondary,
tertiary issues and really uniting.
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:Over the primary issue of
the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
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:They stopped a couple of years ago,
and G three kind of rose to the surface
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:as this replacement conference, though
they wouldn't have billed themselves
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:that way, but it was the next one.
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:It was similar to our theological
stripe and churches were
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:going to these conferences.
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:It was held in Atlanta,
I believe, each year.
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:And it was just a time to get together,
to be encouraged, to be built up to,
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:to remind ourselves of what's true.
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:And there was a conference, I think.
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:Couple years ago on the signed
gifts and things along these lines.
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:It's a time to teach,
but also to fellowship.
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:You may have heard the news recently,
if you follow Christian Twitter or the
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:Christian news world out there, that
the G three Cons conference that was
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:gonna be held in a few months here has
been canceled this year because the head
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:of G three, the president of G three,
this guy named Josh Bi has ultimately
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:disqualified himself from ministry and
certainly his role with this conference.
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:And you might think.
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:Oh here goes another pastor.
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:A moral failure through, sexual immorality
or financial mishandling or whatever.
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:This one's weird.
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:He it was better.
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:I maybe, I guess he, basically what
he had done is he had created multiple
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:multiple anonymous social media handles,
Twitter handles, things like that.
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:Names, yeah.
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:Blogs, email accounts.
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:And he had used these accounts
to attack other Christians.
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:And even Christians within his church,
fellow pastors in his church, he had used
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:these fake accounts to question them and
to to bring, charges against these men.
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:And and also to for self-serving purposes.
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:And the elders at his church discovered
this and confronted him over two
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:years ago initially about this.
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:And he lied and said,
no, I didn't do this.
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:And then most recently, what
happened within the last couple
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:weeks, they met with him for two
hours at one point and pressed him
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:on it and presented the evidence.
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:And he was still saying,
no, I didn't do this.
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:I didn't do this until finally they
delivered the nail in the coffin.
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:And he admitted to it.
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:He confessed to it.
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:And so they terminated him
from his position with G three.
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:He's resigned from the church and they
also are canceling this conference.
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:And that's a massive development.
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:Because this conference was,
again, still three months out.
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:There were plenty of other speakers
that were gonna be there at this
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:conference, and yet they've decided
to shutter the whole thing because
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:of its close association with B.
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:Man, this is a weird one.
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:I it's just another reminder,
the frailty of our human leaders
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:and the pastoral leaders.
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:And some are out there on the evangelical
Twitter world saying, Hey, this is
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:just another sign that we need to put
the rest, these national conferences
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:and the, conference writer kind of guy
that travels around and speaks at the
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:conferences and they're pointing to Lawson
as another example of a guy like that.
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:And I don't know that we need to
go that far, but it, it's certainly
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:another reminder of how frail.
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:Our human leaders are the people that
we can so often idolize are men at best.
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:And and this is a bad situation for
G three, for his church Praise Mill
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:is what the, his church is called.
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:It they're going through it right now.
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:And this is unfortunate for sure.
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:PJ: Yeah, we've said this before,
but it's worth noting that we
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:ought to be praying for the people
that are in leadership positions.
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:We require that.
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:Because as easy as it is for
us to throw rocks at Josh and
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:say, man, what are you doing?
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:That's just dumb.
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:I, I don't know when it began for him, but
at some point it was just a little thing.
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:It was a small rock in the shoe that
just thought, I'm just gonna do this,
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:and I don't think that this is a big
deal, or whatever he said, to justify it.
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:The slippery slope of sin starts
with one small compromise.
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:And this is where it's so important for
all of us to look at someone like him.
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:And granted, you may not even know
who he is, we're bringing him up
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:thinking that a few of you might.
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:But we wanna point out to your
attention that men have feet of clay.
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:And but for the grace of
God, go, I as a saying goes.
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:And you ought to pray for your leaders
and ask God to keep us on the straight
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:and narrow living in integrity as we just
talked about this weekend with the men.
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:We need to be the men who are
willing to confess our sin to.
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:To even before we're put a up fingers
put in our chest to be willing to
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:say to our brothers in the Lord or
our sisters, if you're a lady, look,
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:here's what I've been struggling with.
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:I'm really wrestling with this,
and will you please pray for me?
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:Will you please help me?
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:Will you help me with accountability?
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:Or whatever it is, because we
don't want this stuff scares me.
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:I look at that and I
say, that could be me.
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:That could be me.
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:Now, I don't look at anyone's
sin and say, man, shame on you.
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:You should have done differently.
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:And I guess there's a
part of me that says, you.
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:Did you have a different obligation?
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:This is why James three, one says,
not many of you should become teachers
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:'cause you're teaching now and everyone's
pulling up screenshots of things that
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:he has said before where he is clearly
talking about himself or he's indicting
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:himself with his own preaching.
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:And I get scared about that.
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:I think, man, I don't
want that to be my life.
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:I don't want that to be your life.
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:So guard yourself.
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:Keep a close watch on
yourself and on the teaching.
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:Persist this for, by so doing, you'll
save both yourself and your hearers.
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:That's the warning for all of us.
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:Josh's fall could be our
fall if we're not careful.
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:Rod: Yeah.
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:Let's get into our text for today,
second Samuel 19, 20 and 21.
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:Second Samuel 19.
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:You may recall from a couple days ago
David was mourning the death of his son.
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:And Joab gets word of this and Joab
is not happy with David's posture.
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:And so you'll look at verse two.
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:It says, so the victory that day was
turned into mourning for all the people.
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:For the people who heard the
king is grieving for his son.
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:And so Joab comes home and he calls David
on this, and this is verses five and six.
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:He says, you've covered with shame.
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:The faces of all your servants who have
this day saved your life in the lives
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:of your sons and your daughters, and the
lives of your wives, and your concubines.
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:And there's multiple layers here.
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:We mentioned this Joab does not
act in an honorable way in the
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:way that he dispatches of Absalom.
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:So there's that.
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:However, there is a measure of truth
here for Joab in his confrontation
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:of David in that David's men at
risk their life on his behalf and
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:in gone to battle on his behalf.
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:And these were the real.
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:Potential risks involved here when the,
they're going to war against each other.
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:In fact, you'll remember David
had already been told by his men,
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:Hey, David, you're gonna stay.
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:We don't want you going to battle with
us because you're too valuable for us.
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:Absalom's men apparently did not
think of him the same way because
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:he was involved in the battle.
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:So this was something that
potentially could have happened.
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:And so there's a measure to
which I think what job says is
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:right, David, you need to not.
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:Bring shame upon your people for
delivering and fighting on your
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:behalf to restore you to the throne,
which is what's right and good.
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:However I do think Joab misses the
empathy with a father who has lost
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:a son and and David's mourning and
grief over Absalom's death here.
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:PJ: Yeah I agree with that.
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:I would have a hard time.
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:He's the King Job's, right?
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:Better is open.
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:Rebuke than hidden love.
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:And even though Job may not be
the best guy to deliver that news,
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:it's what David needed to hear.
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:He has a responsibility that's greater
than just his own sorrow and grief.
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:And certainly no one would hold
it against him to grief, but
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:it's just not the right time.
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:There are time and a place, a season
perhaps, where it's appropriate for
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:a leader to say, look, I just need
time alone to do A, B, C, and D here.
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:David had a responsibility
to all the men who just.
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:Gave their lives for his sake.
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:Granted they didn't lose their lives,
but they could have, and again, going
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:back to the honor, shame dynamic,
he's casting shame upon them because
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:he's celebrating or he's honoring
the man that they just killed.
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:For David's sake, this is the same
man who basically, he created a coup.
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:He could have destroyed
Jerusalem, he could have destroyed
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:everything that David stood for.
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:Da David's heart is broken, and
no one would look down upon that.
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:But boy, I think it's inappropriate.
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:He needed job to say that.
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:And I commend Joab for that.
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:Not necessarily for everything else,
but he needed to hear this better.
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:Is open rebuke than Hidden Love.
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:Yeah.
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:Rod: Then this next section here, as
David returns to Jerusalem, he replaces
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:Joab with Ama and Ammas is gonna become
his military commander in place of Joab,
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:probably because David is upset with Jo.
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:Mad at Jo for what Joe did with.
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:With his son there.
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:And yet at the same time, we see
David's strength of leadership here
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:because David does reunite the people
after this brief civil war broken out.
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:And so even though there were people
that were saying, I'm following Absalom,
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:David is able to bring people back and
even from the rest of the chapter here
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:he demonstrates, he leads by example here
because he looks at those that had been.
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:Been some of the leading enemies and
people that have personally attacked
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:him, including Shiia and he pardons them.
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:He says, you know what I'm not
gonna hold this against you.
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:I'm not gonna execute vengeance anymore.
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:Let's just move on and
let's be united together.
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:Even Mephibosheth.
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:And this is the situation here,
because Mephibosheth comes forward and
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:has a different story that basically
says, look I would've come to you,
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:David, but I couldn't come to you.
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:And David's response here towards
Zeba and Mephibosheth was just
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:to divide the land basically.
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:I think David was saying, I don't know
for sure who is right and who is wrong
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:but Mephibosheth's response in sec, second
Samuel:
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:take it all since you've come home safely.
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:I, that lends me again, to think that
I think Mephibosheth was the one that
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:was in the right here, where Zeba
was the smarmy guy in all of this.
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:But David is magnanimous in his mercy.
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:In in this middle section of this chapter,
but the chapter ends with more fighting.
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:Whether David should reside
in perhaps over where that is.
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:David should reside in perhaps the
earliest signs of the strain that
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:would be what would lead to the divided
monarchy eventually down the road.
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:Some wanting him to reside in
the north, others in the south.
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:And the division wasn't gonna happen
until after Solomon's era, but you see the
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:seeds being sown here even in chapter 19.
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:PJ: Yeah.
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:I think to reaffirm what you were just
saying I think Mephibosheth is telling
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:the truth and the reason why it's a
strange one in the next book that we're
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:gonna study let's see, Chronicle Kings
when we look at Solomon's interaction
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:with the two women who are fighting over
the sun, he says let's divide the baby.
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:And the one whose mother it was,
says, please don't let her have it.
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:So I think Second Samuel is
cluing us into, or hinting at.
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:Clearly Li Mephibosheth is telling the
truth here, so I think the author is.
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:Hinting us.
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:Maybe not saying it explicitly,
but hinting us that he's the
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:one who's telling the truth.
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:Rod: Yeah.
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:Chapter 20, you may remember that the last
time we encountered this phrase, there was
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:a worthless man, I believe it was Naval
that was Abigail's husband at the time.
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:And you remember that
whole situation here.
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:There's another worthless man here who
comes to the front, and this one's name
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:is Sheba and he's a Benjamin Knight.
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:Why is that important?
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:That's because that was Saul's line.
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:And so this is the same line of shimmy.
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:This is there's animosity here still
between the Benjamin Knights and David,
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:and they basically say, look, you can
have David, we have no portion with him.
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:We're gonna go north.
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:We're gonna do our own thing.
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:We're gonna be our own
separate kingdom here.
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:And David says, yeah, no you're not.
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:And so David dispatched a AMAs.
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:'cause remember, AMAA had been made
the military commander there, along
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:with Joab and Abishai and the Army to
quell the rebellion before it could
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:do all the harm that Absaloms had.
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:Joab.
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:Along with his brother Abishai, who's
on his side, clearly decides AMAs is
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:not gonna hold this position anymore.
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:Joab murders, AMAs again, Joab does
not finish strong in his his service
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:here and effectively takes back his
place as commander of the King's Army.
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:Shiba, meanwhile, f flees to the
city where David's forces follow
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:and threaten to destroy it with
Siege works and a woman there.
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:Comes to intervene and convinces
the residents to kill Sheba, which
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:they do, and they throw his head
over the wall to say, look, this
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:guy's done the rebellion's over.
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:And that basically puts an end
to shebas Shebas rebellion.
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:PJ: Yeah.
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:Amma was murdered for
sure, but why did he delay?
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:And that's unusual.
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:I'm not sure.
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:And the text doesn't tell us
what caused his delay, but.
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:Joab is an opportunist, and he took the
opportunity that was afforded him, and I'm
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:sure, here's part of the calculation here.
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:David's trying to reunite
the kingdom, and so he puts.
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:Mesa Amsa, however you pronounce his
name, he puts him in place because
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:he was the commander under Absalom.
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:So he's trying to think, okay, let's
try to reunite the people here.
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:Let's put them together.
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:And so he, I think it, it works
at least temporarily until Joe Abs
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:opportunity comes by and he does
so in the most devious way, drops.
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:Hey brother.
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:What's up brother?
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:And stabs him in the back.
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:A good friend will stab you
in the front, not in the back.
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:Rod: Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:Grabs him by the beard.
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:Yeah.
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:Big jerk.
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:Jerk.
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:Man, don't name your Caden a Mesa or
Joe, Adam, really, for that matter.
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:Yeah.
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:Are there names that you don't
wanna call them, that's for sure.
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:Probably not.
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:Probably not.
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:Alright.
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:Chapter 21, then here we've
got the Gibby Knights.
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:And the Gibe Knights, remember had made
a covenant with Joshua after, deceiving
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:him into thinking that they had come
from far away, if you can go back there.
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:And during Saul's reign, he had apparently
attacked the Gibbon Knights, breaking
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:the Covenant, and that was made there.
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:And so now Israel was suffering
a famine as a result of this act.
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:So this is just a reminder
that God doesn't forget.
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:God.
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:God doesn't just overlook things and be
like, oh, it's no big deal and move on.
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:When we think we're getting away
with something, we're not really
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:getting away with anything.
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:God's memory is perfect.
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:And so here you've got a situation
where Israel's suffering now under
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:David for something that Saul had done.
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:That goes all the way back to this.
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:Covenant that was made between between
the Gibeonites and Joshua, because
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:Joshua hadn't sought the lord's
wisdom in, in con and guidance there.
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:And so there's a famine here.
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:So to rectify the situation, David
agrees to turn over seven of Saul's sons
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:who are then hanged by the Gibeonites.
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:And yeah, this one's difficult.
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:One of their mothers of these
men who were turned over she just
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:is broken as you can imagine.
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:And stays there and defends these bodies
from any desecration, from wild animals.
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:And after hearing this, David
recognizes her and wants to honor her.
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:So she gathers the bones of Saul and
Jonathan and these other seven and
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:has them properly buried to, to honor.
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:But this is a.
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:This is an uncomfortable
section of scripture.
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:PJ: It is.
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:And I think part of the discomfort is that
we're wondering, why would God do this?
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:Why would God allow this?
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:Why would God command this?
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:And important to see here,
God doesn't command it.
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:He doesn't tell them to
do what they're doing.
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:And in fact, there's an
uncomfortable silence from God
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:about what he thinks about this.
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:There's this assumption on our part
that, oh, clearly God approved of what
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:happened because the famine stopped.
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:But notice here in verse in verse 14.
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:They buried the bones of Saul and his
son, Jonathan, in the land of Benjamin
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:and Zela and the tomb of Kish, his father.
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:And they did all that the king commanded.
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:And after that, God responded
to the plea for the land.
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:So even though God was upset and
he upset sounds human God was angry
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:at the sin, the response of the
sin was not a biblical response.
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:They weren't saying let's
apply the Torah to this.
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:How would Moses tell us to deal with?
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:They don't do that because nothing in
scripture would command this to happen.
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:The gibeonites are not.
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:Yahweh fearers, and they're pagans.
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:And so their response to this was
let's you know, tick for tack.
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:Let's take them in.
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:So scripture doesn't commend that.
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:Scripture doesn't tell us that was okay.
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:In fact, God's silence on that suggests
that God was not okay with that.
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:What God does respond to though is
the proper burial of the bodies, which
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:tells me that even though it seems
on the surface that God might have
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:been behind this or okay with this, I
don't think it is because God doesn't
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:respond to this famine when they're
killed, he responds to the famine
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:after they're buried, which tells me
there's something else going on there.
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:Rod: Yeah that's helpful
distinction there.
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the Philistines, and I'd mentioned
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battle anymore 'cause the people had
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time, and maybe it's because it's
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to go kill some more Philistines.
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Philistines for a long time.
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:You remember Saul, the bride
price for for Mical was the
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against the Philistines.
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16, somebody bears down on
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and Abha comes to his aid.
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Israel say, Hey David, we appreciate
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handled now why don't you go back
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and and we'll take it from here.
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familiar name in verse 19.
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of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.
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be like why, how is Goliath still here?
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:No, I think just like today, there's
multiple Steves, there's multiple johns,
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PJs out there in the world there.
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more of that, but yeah.
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:I'm gonna take a slightly
different take on that.
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:And the cross reference that I'd
love for you guys to jot down as
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five, first Chronicles 20 verse five.
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the original meaning.
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is the brother of the brother.
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is Goliath, the gi, the Goliath, the Tite,
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here that are preserved in our Bibles.
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five, I think helps fill
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:Which is an example of why Chronicles
is helpful as we read through the
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and First and Second Kings team.
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:That's right.
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:All right let's pray and then
we'll be done with this episode.
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:God, thanks for your word,
and for even just that how one
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well and read it attentively.
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kindness to us in providing the
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of your word and that we would honor you
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:I would agree with
everything that you said