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Where God Came Down: The Archaeological Evidence by Joel Kramer
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00:00 Welcome and Googley
02:33 Listener Question: Discipleship
12:12 Joshua 19-20
19:33 Luke 5:17-39
26:40 Closing Prayer
27:22 Outro and Podcast Information
Welcome back to another edition
of the Daily Bible Podcast.
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:Welcome back.
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:Pastor Rod's here too.
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:He's just choosing to remain silent.
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:He's sitting this one out, so he's in
the room, but you will not be hearing
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:from him at all in this podcast.
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:I'm gonna be working on audio
leveling while you guys are
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:talking, so just have fun.
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:He's here.
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:So, how's everybody?
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:What is today?
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:Today is Friday.
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:So we made it through a week March 26th.
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:Hey, thanks.
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:Thanks, shush.
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:Siri, I didn't even say it.
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:I just asked the question
out into the world and the
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:robot just decided to answer.
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:Everybody did.
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:Did you say seriously?
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:I think that's what got it.
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:Let's go back to the T transcripts.
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:Were like, seriously, guys?
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:Seriously.
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:Anyways, home Star runner.
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:Remember that.
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:I do remember that.
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:That's so good.
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:Yeah.
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:Strong, bad, peak millennial humor.
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:Yes.
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:Are you familiar with Homestar?
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:I have not a clue.
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:Well, because you're not a millennial.
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:That's technically I am.
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:No, you're not.
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:I'm the very last year.
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:No, it, no, we're gonna, we're
gonna grandfather you into Jen.
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:What was that?
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:Z Wouldn't it be the other way around?
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:Not grandfather me in.
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:We're gonna I guess what would
it, we're gonna catapult you
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:into the future generation.
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:We're locking you in buddy.
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:Or overriding your millennial credentials.
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:I'm right on the cusp.
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:No, I'm right on the cusp between the two.
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:You could go, you all star runner then.
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:Well, fair enough.
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:Then that's the defining factor.
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:Hey, I've got another book
recommendation for everybody.
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:It is.
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:Where's Waldo Bible edition?
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:That's cool.
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:Yes, yes.
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:No, it's not.
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:They do have those though.
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:I had them growing up.
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:Where you can find biblical
characters in them.
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:Yeah.
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:So maybe at Mardel you can find those.
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:But this book is called
Where God Came Down.
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:The archeological evidence
is by Joel Kramer, who is the
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:guy behind Expedition Bible.
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:Oh.
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:So the YouTube channel that
I've recommended in the
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:past, he put out a book.
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:It's got Feld too.
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:There's a Kramer on Seinfeld.
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:Not the same guy.
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:It's not the same guy.
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:It's got a lot of really cool
pictures, but a lot of really good
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:text and explanations of them as well.
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:So if you wanna see some of the places
in the Old Testament that we're talking
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:about, for example, the mountain of God.
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:What was the mountain of God?
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:Where was it?
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:He talks about Hebrew in here, Bethel
Abraham's altar there, Jacob's altar.
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:He's got images that go along with a
lot of these things, and he's coming
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:at it from a conservative perspective.
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:And so, not that necessarily
are you gonna agree with a
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:hundred percent of what he says?
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:But by and large, his research
is really solid and he's a friend
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:of e Evangelical Christianity.
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:So this is a good resource for you.
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:It's called, again, where God came
down the archeological evidence.
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:It's got things from the Old Testament
and some really great images from the New
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:Testament archeology and research as well.
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:So that would be a good
one for you to pick up.
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:In keeping with our studying of the Old
Testament, especially right now with a lot
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:of different name places and the conquest
of the Promised Land and everything else.
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:His book is good.
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:Alright, we have another question from.
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:Somebody, I'll just say somebody.
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:Somebody, you know who you are.
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:So the question then has
to do with discipleship.
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:They offer a definition and here's
how they're gonna describe it.
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:Specific and intentional teaching and
learning to a specific person from
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:another with the intent to significantly
influence the learner's life.
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:And so they quote and they allude
to different examples like Moses
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:and Joshua, Elijah, Elijah, Paul,
Timothy, Jesus in the 12, and
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:then even Jesus among the three.
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:And so he asks whether discipleship
is supposed to look like that.
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:Is this something, and let me just go
to the questions that they offer here.
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:Is this something that's actually
practiced in the church today?
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:What's your view on discipleship?
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:Should we really be pursuing
this from someone and to someone?
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:In other words, should we be
both the receivers and the givers
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:of discipleship relationships?
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:Should they be formalized?
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:Do I call myself a disciple
of Pastor Mark or Pastor pj?
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:Is that what you have in
mind when you encourage?
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:Christians to take part in
discipleship relationships.
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:That's a lot of questions I'll let
you guys pick up wherever you see fit.
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:Yeah.
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:So you hear us define partners
sometimes as our one-on-one discipleship
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:program being the partner's manual.
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:But I think this question is
saying, but what about beyond that?
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:What does discipleship look like?
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:Is it formalized and is there
a situation where you'd say, I
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:wanna be discipled by this person,
this person is gonna disciple me.
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:And I would say.
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:In my experience, there have been
seasons where there has been formalized
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:de discipleship that's taken place.
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:There have been people that I've
invested in for a period of time, and
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:likewise people that have invested
in me in the discipling me capacity.
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:Even now, I've got other pastor friends
that are beyond me and my experience
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:and in different contexts that are
discipling me in my role as a lead pastor
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:here, so that I have somebody that I can
turn to and say, Hey, can you help me
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:with this because I'm trying to figure
out what to do in this situation or.
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:Hey, I want your wisdom in this,
and that's important for me.
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:There's a rhythm there.
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:I meet monthly with somebody and there's
also informal relationships there.
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:So, for me, discipleship
has been seasonal.
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:It's been, sometimes I've got two or
three people that I'm meeting with
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:on a regular basis, discipling them.
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:Other times, it's not that.
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:I think in our context, in our church, at
least, a lot of that's gonna take place.
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:In the context of community groups
too wherein you're having those
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:relationships, you're building those
relationships in with the men and or
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:the ladies in the group, depending.
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:And and that's a good
venue for it to take place.
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:Yeah.
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:And I would caution against saying
I'm a disciple of so and so.
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:I do think that that would be
a caution that I would give.
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:And I would look to a place like
one Corinthians three where Paul
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:says, for when one says I follow
Paul and another I follow Apollo.
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:Apollos are you not being merely human?
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:And then he goes on to
explain what he means.
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:And his point is that we are
ultimately disciples of Jesus.
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:And so I think we can confuse
what discipleship looks like
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:when we are pegging it to
one kind of person or a name.
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:That doesn't mean we don't
practice discipleship.
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:That doesn't mean there aren't
people who disciple us, but I think.
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:Watching out for that terminology,
I think that can reflect maybe a
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:misunderstanding of what's going on
when we're practicing discipleship.
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:But wouldn't you say though,
that it makes a lot of sense to
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:formalize these relationships?
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:For instance, if you were to go to
a young guy in the church and say,
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:Hey, I think you could use my help.
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:To grow up in your faith.
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:I would love to meet with you on Thursdays
at 6:00 AM we're gonna meet at the Panera,
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:and I'd like you to pick up this book.
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:We're gonna read it together and
we're gonna discuss the chapters
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:one-on-one for the next three months.
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:Anything wrong with that?
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:And if that person said, who's discipling
you, or Pastor Mark is discipling me.
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:I'm a discip of Pastor Mark right now.
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:Maybe we're so casual that that
kind of thing doesn't take place.
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:But wouldn't that be a good thing?
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:Well, I think definitely the discipleship
in action that you're describing, I
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:would be cautious about using the term.
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:Because it can create factions.
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:Yeah, and I think that's what
Paul's getting at, right?
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:In one Corinthians three.
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:If that's the purpose.
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:Now I think you could use that term.
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:I'm not saying that term is inherently
wrong, but I do think what Paul is getting
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:at is that when we're using that term,
it's likely to reflect, and I think in
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:the Corinthian church it is reflecting.
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:A misunderstanding of what
discipleship really is.
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:'cause he goes on to talk about, right,
that he's very much part of this process.
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:Right?
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:He's laying a foundation and
someone else is building upon it.
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:It's not that he's not discipling,
but I think he is cautious about
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:using that, that terminology.
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:Not that there would be anything
wrong with it though, right?
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:Not that there's anything
be inherently wrong with it.
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:Right.
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:But I do, I would be cautious about that.
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:Use of terminology for its potential
to create division, and that was a
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:particular issue among the Corinthian
church, but in and of itself, the
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:formality of the relationship.
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:Does that bother you at all, pastor pj?
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:No.
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:You'd be okay with that?
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:Yeah.
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:And if someone said, I'm
a disciple of Pastor PJ's.
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:Yeah I think by nature, as we mature
in our faith, we are disciple.
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:We have a breadth of those
that have influenced our lives.
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:So we might say, for me, for
example, maybe somebody like Dr.
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:MacArthur influenced me or I was a
disciple of his in these particular areas.
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:For example, I would point to
issues of soteriology salvation.
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:I would say, man, I think his.
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:Explanation.
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:His view of Lordship salvation is
something that was instrumental
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:in discipling me in my
understanding of soteriology.
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:But I may look at somebody like Pastor
Mike, our sending PA pastor with the
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:area of preaching and say, I discipled.
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:He was my discipler in that.
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:And so I think we are a product of so many
different voices out there that I don't
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:think any of us are ever gonna say, I'm
a disciple of this one particular voice.
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:In the end.
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:Yeah, it's probably one of the privileges
of living in our time and season of
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:life where we can afford to pick and
choose from a lot of different people.
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:They write books and they have podcasts,
and they have videos and things like that.
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:So rapid fire.
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:Then let's answer the
questions more succinctly.
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:Is this something that's actually
practiced in the church today?
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:Yes, yes, yes.
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:Maybe not the way that he
envisions, but definitely it is.
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:And your view on it is that it is.
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:Formal, informal.
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:I think it could be both.
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:It could be both.
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:It could be both.
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:And it's happening primarily and
at least in your church, pastor
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:PJ, in the small group setting.
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:One other area I would
add to that is parenting.
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:I think as a dad, I'm
discipling my sons right now.
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:And my wife is really discipling my
daughter, not that I'm not discipling
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:my daughter, but she's taking that
more practical hands-on approach
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:with her in her professed faith.
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:And I'm doing that with Joshua as well.
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:So I think there's a formalized
discipleship of the parent
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:child relationship as well.
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:I a hundred percent agree with that.
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:I think even the term, so and
so is my dad, using the term
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:dad implies discipleship.
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:In the Christian context Of course.
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:Yeah.
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:Should we really be pursuing
this from someone and to someone?
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:Yes.
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:Yeah.
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:I think it should ideally come
naturally and that's why I point to
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:community groups as a place where it
can naturally form probably most easily.
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:'cause that's where you get to know others
and others know you most thoroughly.
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:I, yeah, I don't think there's a
deficiency if you're going through
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:a season where you don't have
it active in your life, though.
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:Would you be able to say if you're going
to a church, you are a disciple of that?
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:Pastor Passively?
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:Yes.
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:Yeah, passively.
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:Why passive?
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:Just because it's not,
I'd say it's very active.
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:Yeah.
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:But it's not a one-on-one
formalized discipleship.
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:Relationship the way that you think?
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:There's not as much of a back
and forth the way that we
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:normally think of discipleship.
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:I think in our culture, we think of
discipleship as sitting down, reading
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:a book together, having a cup of coffee
together and asking questions and
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:going back and forth with each other.
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:You're being discipled it, but it's a
one-way discipleship there rather than a
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:two-way conversation that's taking place.
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:You wouldn't qualify it
then as discipleship.
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:No I think it is, I think it's a form of
discipleship, but what I mean by passive
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:is you are receiving the discipleship from
the one that you're, whose church you're
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:attending as far as the pastor of that
church, rather than when you're involved
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:in a discipleship relationship, there's
more of a dynamic that takes place there.
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:Would you add anything
to that Pastor Mark?
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:I do think we should be
pursuing discipleship.
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:I think that it may be that there's a
season when we don't have it, but I think
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:that would be the impetus to pursue it.
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:In a church setting.
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:Are you a disciple of
that pastor automatically?
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:Yeah, I think so.
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:I think so.
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:Would you qualify it as
passive as well, would you?
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:I would qualify with something.
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:I think it wouldn't be I, it
wouldn't be sufficient on its own.
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:Meaning if you went by yourself and you
sat in the chair and you listened to the
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:preaching and then you got up and you
didn't talk to anyone and you walked out,
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:I would qualify it by saying that is not
a holistic understanding of discipleship.
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:So that would be my qualification.
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:I wouldn't necessarily qualify
the word, but I would say that the
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:Christian life looks like more than
just that sort of individualistic
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:sitting, listening and then leaving.
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:So with the thrust of what we're
getting at then discipleship is good.
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:It's right, it's part of being
a Christian, I think, and you're
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:attempting to do some kind of
spiritual good to somebody else.
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:Should you pursue these kinds of
one-on-one discipleship relationships
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:with other people that you're
giving to and that you're receiving
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:from even more from, besides a
book setting or besides a podcast.
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:To your point, there's not a
lot of response when you're
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:listening to a podcast or a sermon.
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:So should you pursue these one-on-one
things yourselves, even as pastors,
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:do you expect that of yourself?
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:Yeah, I would probably say a, again,
I don't know that it's gonna be
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:formalized every single time, but you
should have somebody in your life who's
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:older, wiser, more mature than you are
in their faith that is available to
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:invest in you and pour into you and
answer questions when you have them.
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:And you need to be that person
for somebody else as well.
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:Yeah, I would agree with that.
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:Alright.
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:All right.
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:That was a thick question
with a pretty thick answer.
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:Thank you for sending that in.
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:That was good.
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:I hope that was sufficient.
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:We didn't even hit all the things that
they brought up, but it's multifaceted.
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:It's a multifaceted question.
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:It's a very thick one.
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:Thank you.
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:Good work.
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:And now back to the Bible.
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:The Bible, Joshua 19.
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:Because we weren't in it when we
were, well, no, that was, now we're
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:going through it chronologically.
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:No, no, no.
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:Not chronologically.
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:That's the last plan.
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:Nevermind Pastor pj.
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:Alright, Joshua one 19 through 20.
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:We are gonna finish really dividing
up the land here and in that's
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:gonna take place in chapter 19.
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:You're gonna get all of these other tribes
that are gonna get their inheritance here.
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:You've got Zebulon, you've
got Simeon, you've got Iscar,
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:you've got Asher, NAI, and Dan.
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:Dan's gonna show up a little bit
later in the book of judges too.
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:Dan's a little bit of a Wiley
figure here as a tribe, but.
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:This is Joshua bringing things
to a close and I think it's
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:interesting that Joshua waits till
everybody else has been settled.
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:Everybody else has their inheritance
allotted to them, and then he.
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:Last of all goes in to take his and
there's a book that's called, that's a
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:secular book called Leaders Eat Last.
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:But it's that idea, I think
this is leadership from Joshua.
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:I think he's making sure the people
are settled, they're cared for,
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:things have been done, at least to the
best of his awareness and knowledge,
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:even though we've pointed out how
many times they've failed already.
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:But Joshua waits until everybody else
has their allotment given to them.
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:And then he goes to take
his own place for himself.
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:Yeah, what a great point that is.
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:And interesting to know and if you looked
at your Bible Atlas book, whatever you
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:happen to have, you'll notice that Simeon.
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:Portion is oddly placed, and
you find out the reason why.
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:Here in verse number nine, it says, the
territory of the people of Simeon rather
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:was formed part of out, out of part of
the territory of the people of Judah.
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:So because the portion of the people
that Judah was too large for them, the
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:people of Simeon obtained an inheritance
in the midst of their inheritance.
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:So their position, like a donut
hole in the midst of a donut at some
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:point, and we don't exactly know
when and where and how, but Simeon
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:eventually gets absorbed into Judah.
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:And they become the
southern tribes together.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:It becomes less clear where
Simeon begins and Judah ends.
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:But Judah's moniker, his naming
takes the pre the, takes the stage.
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:It becomes the primary name by which
the Southern Kingdom is described.
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:But notice here, Simeon
is in the midst of them.
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:I was reading in one of the commentators
that I was consulting on this passage,
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:talked about all of these places
being somewhat even obscure to us,
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:or small to us, but they pointed out
the fact that God still cared about
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:what was gonna take place there.
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:Israel still had a stewardship
over that area, and I think.
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:It's not too much of a stretch to
see when we think about our role
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:in our church or your role in
your community of other believers.
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:It may not be the front and center role,
but God has given you a stewardship and
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:cares that you take care of that and
cares that you give attention to that.
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:And it, it may appear from the
outside looking in going, Hey
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:that's not the flashiest, it's not
Jerusalem, it's not Judah, it's
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:not some of these key tribes here.
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:But God still cared about those tribes.
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:He gave them a portion of
the land and they had a job.
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:They were supposed to steward that land
for the glory of God and that mattered.
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:So that's another kind of takeaway
for us, even as we're reading through
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:something that's heavy on the geography
and going, okay, what do I do with this?
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:Is remembering God cares
about these things.
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:These were stewardships for each
of these tribes, and we have
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:stewardships too in our own lives.
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:No matter how small they are, no matter
how small, they're, what a great point.
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:Some of us have very small stewardships.
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:I think about the parable of the talents.
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:Each of us are given a
different amount to steward.
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:And some of us can look, look at the
other guy with, oh, he's got five talents
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:and I've only got this measly one.
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:And I think the, I, the ironic
part is that a talent is actually
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:a substantial amount of resource,
whatever that is, dollar figure wise.
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:So you might look down on whatever
God has given you, but don't,
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:and take stewardship over it.
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:Use it, God glorify God with it.
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:And don't look at your neighbor
and say, I wish I was him.
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:Enjoy what you got.
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:Take what you got and
use it for the glory.
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:God.
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:Yeah.
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:I have an unresolved thought in my head.
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:Maybe you guys can help.
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:Oh, no.
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:So all of these tribes get a very specific
allotment of land with very clear.
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:Boundaries.
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:Right?
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:This is not a AI formula
coming up with this.
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:This is based on very specific
information and very clear landmarks.
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:What do you guys think is supposed
to happen as the land in total
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:of the people of Israel grows?
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:Come again.
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:So there's promises the
grows of Israel expanding.
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:Yes.
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:Right.
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:And we have locked in some sense,
or it appears that it's locked in.
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:Yeah.
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:That there are specific
allocations of these tribes.
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:To these specific locations.
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:Yeah.
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:But what happens to the new
land that is brought in?
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:That's a great question, and now I
was gonna bring it up on the last
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:podcast or the one before this.
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:But here's my working idea, because
the land of let's see, Benjamin
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:and Judah, they both border j.
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:And in one allotment, God
gives Benjamin Jerusalem.
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:In another allotment, God
gives Judah, Jerusalem.
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:Whose does it belong to?
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:Well, Judah fought for it and she won it.
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:And so I think there's probably, in God's
mind, he said, these are your boundaries.
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:This is your sandbox.
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:But go, I think go and take more.
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:Whatever one of you guys wants to fight
and expand your territory, go for it.
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:Although I know you can easily get
into problems when you start running
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:into conflict with your brothers.
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:But I think there is a sense,
although not an unlimited one.
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:Where you can expand your territory in
a God glorifying way, and maybe some
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:of those neighboring towns that were
left up for grabs, I think God would be
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:okay with them taking that position.
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:Yeah, I think that answer satisfies me.
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:I think the thing that'll be funny
about that is if that were to
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:happen, which hypothetical it doesn't
happen, it does not happen, right?
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:Is that there's some tribes that I
guess you could describe as landlocked.
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:Or they're either up against the
ocean, the Mediterranean Sea, or
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:they're surrounded by other tribes.
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:How does that work?
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:We don't ever know, but it fascinates
me to think about, well, and then
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:because Dan leaves his allotments, it
just tells me there's a little bit of
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:flexibility in here that you don't read.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:And because of Dan's movement, and God
never says no, which is surprising to me.
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:'cause that seems to me
like an egregious move.
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:Dan, you left your land, bro.
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:Yeah.
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:You were beachside.
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:Well, even the tribes that are on
the other side of the river, right.
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:He doesn't say name.
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:He doesn't say no he works with them.
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:Yeah.
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:Oh yeah.
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:So I think there's a lot more flexibility
baked into this, even though he's
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:giving them specific pieces of land.
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:I'm gonna argue with
Dan when we get there.
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:And judges, I don't think God's
in favor of what Dan does.
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:I say he was in favor.
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:I just said there's never a clear
statement of his disapproval.
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:Right.
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:Yeah.
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:Which gives me a sense that there's
some flexibility in the way God
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:has orchestrated his arrangement.
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:Right.
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:'cause even the tribes on the other side
of the river, I think the implication is.
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:That that's not what they ought to
have done but there is no definitive
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:statement of God's judgment
because of that particular action.
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:Well, God, I think Grants
permission to them.
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:I don't think God ever
grants permission to Dan.
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:And I think when we see it in judges,
I think there's a perversion there.
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:'cause not to give it away,
but they send out spies, dude,
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:giving it away on their own.
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:Spoiler alert guys.
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:They send out spies on their own.
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:And they talk about how good the land
is and pleasant the land is, and it's
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:good for us to go up and take it and
settle it, but it never says God gave
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:the, in fact, it stresses that the people
of Laish were at a peaceful people.
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:And so I think that it's de
display displayed in judges as a
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:perversion of what we see in the
conquest of the promised land.
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:When Dan leaves their allotment and
goes up to take the other one, I
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:would offer an agreement to that,
but I would also say, did God not
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:also give them that land though?
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:Because I think when God, yes.
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:Well, no, I don't mean even like
practically and actually, but I do mean,
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:did God not promise the land as far
north as covering that same territory?
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:Yeah.
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:I don't know if he gave it to Dan.
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:Obviously he did not.
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:But the fact that God still said this.
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:Large piece of land for, it's for Israel.
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:Right.
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:So it makes, it's granted,
it's in the book of judges.
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:So that brings all of the
sender suspicion, right?
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:Yeah.
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:Right.
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:Because they're not doing what's right.
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:Right.
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:But I still think the land did belong
to them, how and when they got it.
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:That might be the perversion.
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:Well, it's coming up, so keep
listening, keep reading Bibles on that.
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:Hey, let's get over to the New
Testament just for sake of time.
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:We are in Luke chapter five.
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:One verses 17 through 39, and in Luke
five 17 through 26 the healing of
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:the paralytic, the friends that it's
too crowded, they can't get in there.
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:I think we see Jesus' sense of
humor here in a situation that for
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:the man that's lowered down wasn't
necessarily funny, but I Jesus clearly
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:knows what this guy's, after he
wants to be healed of his paralysis.
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:That's why the friends went to such
extreme lengths to do what they
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:did, and yet he looks at the guy and
says, Hey your sins are forgiven.
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:Th Thank you.
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:Can you do something about my legs?
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:I'd love to be able to walk.
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:'cause it's interesting.
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:He doesn't ask the man, why are
you here the way he does with
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:some of the other people, he heals
when the blind man comes home.
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:What do you wish?
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:Well, I wish to see I want to be made.
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:Well, I wish even the woman who touches
the fringe of his garment and she's healed
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:from her discharge, he doesn't approach
the man and say, why did you touch me?
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:Or what are you here for?
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:It's plain to everybody why he's there.
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:And yet Jesus says your sins are forgiven.
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:And then he flexes his divinity
here because he in his, I think
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:in his deity, understands what's
running through the minds.
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:And here's over, here's the grumbling
of the Pharisees saying, who has the
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:authority to forgive sins but God alone.
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:And that's when he steps fully
into, if you're paying attention.
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:To his identity and says that you may know
that I have the power and the authority.
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:So he doesn't say I'm God, but
he says, in order that you might
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:know, watch what I'm about to do.
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:And then he heals the man and
the man gets up and walks away.
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:So Jesus is kind of toying with his
opponents here, I think in this section.
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:I wanna point out that what
you see here is fascinating
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:because of who the audience is.
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:In verse 19, it says that these guys,
these friends of this paralytic man, let
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:him through the roof and let him down.
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:With his bed through the tiles,
into the midst before Jesus.
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:These are good friends, by the way.
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:If your friends are not willing
to lower your body down through a
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:roof, they're not your real friends.
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:You need to find some people like this.
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:Find new ones.
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:Definition.
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:This is my definition now.
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:If I ever am paralyzed and you guys
don't lower me through the roof to
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:see Jesus this friendship's over.
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:But I notice verse 20 here.
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:This is why this is so unique,
because Israelites are not known
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:for their faith, but yet he says
and when he saw their faith, it was
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:not their act per se, it was the act
because the act revealed their faith.
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:That's right.
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:Jesus' marveling at these people.
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:It was his friends and this
paralytic who had faith in him.
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:What was the quality of their faith?
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:I, it's hard to know, but the fact that
he offers them forgiveness in my mind is
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:less is less about, well, I, what I do
see, what I see is Jesus honoring the act
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:and saying, this is where it's at, guys.
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:You get it.
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:You get it.
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:And it's almost like this is an attaboy.
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:And he, I think the forgiveness of sins
is because that's what they're coming for.
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:I wondered this too, because
your point is well taken.
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:I was thinking, okay, this
is, there's a lot happening.
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:There's a lot moving at once.
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:It's like being in a moving car and
there's all these different features
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:that are moving past at once.
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:I was thinking in these days, it
was not an uncommon thought to think
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:that your sin created your sickness.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:So remember it was the man born blind.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Who sinned first.
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:And so I wondered if perhaps what
was happening here is that people
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:thought, well, clearly you must
have done something really bad for
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:you to warrant being paralyzed.
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:And maybe they all thought
that, I don't know.
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:But maybe Jesus knowing their
thoughts and knowing their hearts
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:said, this is what he really needs.
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:And of course, that of course
what is, what he did really need.
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:But beyond that, let me also
hear your body and show that
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:your sins are in fact forgiven.
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:I'm gonna remove this stain from you and
give you a new a new life essentially.
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:So I like this because the faith is
highlighted that's unique for Israelites.
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:The parallels my man is given the
ability to walk and all this is
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:happening in order to confront
the authorities who are watching.
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:Yeah, that's a great point.
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:Rest of chapter five, you've got
the calling of Levi, AKA Matthew,
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:the tax collector who's called
away from his boot to follow Jesus.
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:This one's interesting because
we don't know how much Matthew
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:knew about Jesus prior to this.
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:We've mentioned it earlier, Peter,
James, John, those guys had spent
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:some time around Jesus before they
left everything to follow him.
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:With the tax collector here with
Matthew, we're not exactly sure how
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:much he knew, how much he was aware of.
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:About Jesus before Jesus passes by his
booth and says, come and follow me.
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:And Matthew gets up and goes.
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:And so we're left to fill in some of the
the blank spots there to figure that out.
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:But something is compelling enough about
Jesus for Matthew to leave a pretty
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:lucrative job being a tax collector.
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:One of the reasons they were despised
by the Jews was they worked for the
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:Romans and the Romans kind of had a.
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:An understanding.
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:Hey, if you want to overcharge
your countrymen and skim some
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:off the top with them, go for it.
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:We'll look the other way.
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:We don't care as long as we get what's
due us in the end, and that's one of the
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:reasons why the tax collectors were hated.
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:So Matthew gives up a good gig to go
and follow Jesus Now, not good as far
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:as his countrymen, but good as far
as his own provision and wellbeing.
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:All of that was so good, bro.
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:Thanks man.
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:Love that.
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:I appreciate that.
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:Did you get what you needed?
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:I sure did.
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:Did you?
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:That's good.
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:Why are you bringing this up?
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:They don't know.
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:Well, I just, the inside joke was for you
and Pastor Mark and myself, but I didn't
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:wanna toot my own horn by thinking You
just started, are there blowing smoke?
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:Yeah.
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:You didn't actually hear what he said.
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:It was heard.
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:It was pretty egregious.
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:Egregious.
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:Yeah.
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:It was actually.
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:It was awful.
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:He was heresy.
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:Yeah.
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:Maybe a little bit Mercy.
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:I said it the wrong time.
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:Everybody's probably
super confused right now.
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:They're alright.
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:Matt, cut this out.
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:Isn't that worth having anything
on the last section there?
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:The question on fasting
that we wanna point out.
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:We've covered it, I think
with Matthew, but anything we
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:wanna hit on again on that?
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:Okay.
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:Quickly, is fasting still
something people should do today?
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:Yes.
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:Yes.
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:When?
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:All the time.
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:All the time.
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:All the time.
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:Whoa.
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:Yes.
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:Okay.
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:Every day new diet, crashed.
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:Diet.
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:After Mark 27, forget GLP ones.
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:Everybody's just gonna stop eating.
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:Yeah, that'd be cheaper.
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:That would be a lot cheaper.
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:It would be regularly.
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:That's what I mean by all the time.
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:Yeah.
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:Consistently.
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:I think it's.
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:In the New Testament model, I think we
see it for those situations where you
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:have something significant coming up.
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:Like when the missionaries are being
sent out, when Paul and Barnabas
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:are being sent out there, there's
fasting and they lay out, lay their
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:hands on them and they send them out.
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:So I think fasting is meant to be used
intentionally, and I think it's purpose
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:is that when we feel the pain of whatever
that thing is that we're fasting from,
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:we're driven to prayer or we're driven to
worship, or we're driven to whatever it is
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:that we are pursuing, it's meant to serve
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:as a real life physical object lesson
for us to drive us towards that thing.
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:What about weekly or monthly?
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:Would you advise a Christian to
pursue something with that sort of
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:timeline outside of kind of bigger
events that you're describing?
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:Probably not, 'cause I don't think
it's established that way in the
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:New Testament for the church.
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:Does fasting make your
prayers any more effective?
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:I think it makes you more zealous
and passionate about your prayers.
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:I don't think it changes
the nature of your prayers.
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:So it could increase the quality
is what you're suggesting.
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:Yeah, I think it does, but I don't
think it makes your prayers more
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:effective, is what I'm saying.
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:Yeah.
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:I think you're gonna pray more,
makes your prayers effective.
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:Yeah.
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:I think you're gonna pray more and
you're gonna pray more urgently.
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:Urgently because you're keenly aware
of what you're not having, which is
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:driving you to pray more consistently.
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:Yeah.
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:Yeah, I think fasting's a
great tool in the tool belt.
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:I do think it'd be great to use on a
fairly regular basis because I think
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:it's a good spiritual discipline.
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:Now, it can be done wrongly,
it can be wielded wrongly.
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:There's so many different,
I don't know, trenches.
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:So many different pitfalls we can
have in that, but I think it's good.
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:Jesus commends it.
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:I'm for it.
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:Yep.
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:It's generally good ground to stand on.
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:I think so, yeah.
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:Alright, let's pray.
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:God, thanks for your word and for the
time that we got to spend in it right
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:now, answering these questions about
discipleship and the Old Testament, the
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:land allotment, the New Testament, talking
about fasting, talking about the healing
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:of this paralytic God we love how dynamic
your word is and that there's so much for.
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:Us to glean from it if we will
give ourselves over to studying it.
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:So I pray that we would do that.
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:I pray, God, that nobody would
just satisfy themselves with
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:listening to us on this podcast.
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:But they would use this either as an
after course after their time in the word
719
:or as setting up their time in the word,
but they would really get their main
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:meal from spending time in the Bible.
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:And I pray that would be true of
all us we pray in Jesus' name.
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:Amen.
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:Amen.
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:Amen.
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:On that note, keep reading the Bible
and tune in again tomorrow for another
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:edition of the Daily Bible Podcast.
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:See ya.
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:Amen.
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:Bye.
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