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Hello and welcome to Who Are You?

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This is a reasonably well done sci-fi

watch cast hosted by two former strangers.

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Now friends who are gonna be talking

about how they're halfway through

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2000 fours Battlestar Galactica.

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I'm Jair,

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Laura: And I am Laura.

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Xhafer: and I mean, mathematically.

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We're not quite halfway through.

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Laura: Oh yeah.

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Like

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Xhafer: the mini series weighs it a bit.

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And then there's the episodes, and

I'm not counting Caprica or any of

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the movies, but we finished season

two and it seems like a good time to

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maybe do a little talkie about a recap.

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So that's what we're doing today,

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: there will be no episode to

watch, no homework, and I have no idea

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how long we'll make this last for.

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We will see how it goes.

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Laura: Well, it sounds like you have

some questions for me and I think

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I have some questions for you too.

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but I was thinking maybe we should

open it up with just like the silent

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count, like where are we at For sure.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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So actually Erin in spoiler chat

was all like, have her give the list

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of who the 12 silences are, right.

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Laura: Okay.

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Xhafer: we, we, we know

Six silence right now.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Yes.

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We should definitely go through those.

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So we have six, obviously, which, which

I have just spelled in my notes 'cause

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I'm actively writing the list as six IX.

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Xhafer: We, we will come

back to this on the quiz.

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So,

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Laura: Oh, good.

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Okay.

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Xhafer: um, so you've got

six, you've got your Doral,

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Laura: Yeah, the Doral is very smug.

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Xhafer: your bins.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Your Cavel,

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Very funny.

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Yes.

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Xhafer: uh, Your Simons.

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Laura: Simon.

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Oh, and what's her name?

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Deanna.

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Did you say?

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Deanna And I just didn't

write fast enough.

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Xhafer: Deanna.

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Wait.

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Six.

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Doro bin Sharon Cavel.

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Simon.

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Deanna.

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Okay, so we know seven of the Cylons then

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Laura: Yes, yes, yes.

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So those are for sure.

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So we have five left out there.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: Five of them.

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Okay.

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And so Erin has requested

that I fill in the gaps?

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Yes.

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Xhafer: Yes.

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Laura: Well, i've been kicking this

around probably a little bit on

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pod, but probably more off pod with

poor Erin having to listen to me.

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That perhaps Rosalyn

was the first CY model

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Xhafer: Okay.

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Laura: and her cancer was like you

know, a pro, one of them beta problems.

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You know,

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Xhafer: Beta

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Laura: you Yeah.

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When you just like do the first thing and,

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Xhafer: Rosalyn actually is, you

know, the first human humanoid silo.

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So she was made by a corporation

in a capitalistic society.

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So it's actually just

planned obsolescence.

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Laura: Right.

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Yeah.

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She was supposed to go bad.

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Okay.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So I, I have been kicking that

idea around because boy, that

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was just, I, I really took it.

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Very suspiciously when she asked for

a new body from the Cy ship, even

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though it was a jokey joke, I didn't,

I don't know, didn't like it and that

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that could make the cancer make sense.

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And then maybe she's kind of there

to like try to get poor Gaas to grow

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up, except he keeps not doing that.

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I don't know.

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So,

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So if we put Roslyn in there,

that would leave four holes?

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I suppose it's possible.

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There's still some we haven't met.

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We have all of season three.

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Xhafer: That is a question on my quiz.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Have we met all of the

cylons that all of the characters

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that will be revealed to be SI.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: you to, if they do another

introductory s I'm, I'm wording

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it kind of carefully so that a

handful of situations don't apply.

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That would, that would make it so it

wouldn't be possible for you to know.

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Yeah,

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Laura: Yeah.

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I feel like very suspicious of

gata after that last episode.

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He had a look on his

face that I didn't like.

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So I will go ahead and put Gata in there.

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Xhafer: So Rosalyn Gata,

you got three more,

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Laura: Yeah.

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Um, I also feel like either Callie

or Tyre could be a salon because

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Xhafer: but not both.

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Laura: but not both.

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I think that's unlikely.

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Um, we, we don't know about

their baby situation, but like,

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Xhafer: I mean, we know that it's famously

difficult for cylon babies to be a thing.

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Laura: Right.

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For two silence to, to reproduce.

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Xhafer: cylons in humans,

it is very difficult.

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Laura: yeah.

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They were having trouble

with the farms too.

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Xhafer: need, you need true love.

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Laura: Right, right.

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Xhafer: Do you think

Tyrell and Callie have true

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Laura: Have true of, um,

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Xhafer: P of?

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Laura: well, we know

Laura's feelings on that.

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I think.

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Xhafer: We, we've talked

about it at length.

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Laura: But did for that matter,

did Hilo and Sharon have true love?

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Like do we really know that when it

seemed like Sharon's whole point was

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like she was part of this experiment

to manipulate Hilo into true love.

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Is it just that the human

needs to have true love?

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Xhafer: Maybe do silence, have emotions?

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Are they sociopaths?

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Laura: Yeah.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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So can I, can I fill one

slot with Callie or Tyrell?

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Xhafer: For the sake of this, yes, for the

sake of the quiz when we get there, no,

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Laura: Okay.

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I'll have to choose a

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Xhafer: but we'll do Cali Orel.

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Okay.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Um, you haven't

said Sam's name and you.

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Laura: I do famously

think Anders is a silent.

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Xhafer: think Anders is a silent,

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Laura: I have been on that,

that train for a while.

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Um,

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Xhafer: feel free to uh, say no here.

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You don't think he's a silent anymore?

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I just want to, it's, it's

a plot point of our podcast.

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At this point.

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I feel like I have to bring it up.

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Laura: you're right, you're right.

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Um, boy, him catching pneumonia

at the very end of the last

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episode was sort of like.

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A curve ball on the Anders is

a asylum theory, wasn't it?

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Xhafer: Yeah, we don't really

see sick silence, do we?

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Laura: No, no.

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I mean, I guess we saw Leo been pretty

fucked up in that one Nebula that had the,

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like radiation stuff going on or whatever,

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Xhafer: And they are in a

nebula thing on New Caprica,

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Laura: they're, they're inside

one of those places that

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silence can't see in very well.

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Xhafer: I think, I think this one just is

a Heidi Nebula and not a kill Ayon Nebula.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It, it's obviously not as strong as

that nebula, even if it's got like

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kill asylum vibes in it because,

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Xhafer: that was like four

hours and you're dead.

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Si kill.

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Ay.

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Laura: yeah.

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And Gina was like totally

fine when we saw her.

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She wasn't like getting sick

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Xhafer: And she was in the neer,

she was hanging out out there.

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Yeah.

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So.

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Laura: Hmm.

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Xhafer: All

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Laura: Well, I think, I think

I'm gonna put Anders down.

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Yeah.

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Anders still don't trust

that little, little jerk.

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He's, he's too good.

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And one more, well, we've got

two whole seasons left, right?

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Like season three and season four.

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Are they traditional length seasons?

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Xhafer: Yeah, they're both 20 apps.

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SE season four is 21, I think from

a production order standpoint,

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because the finale is a two hour app.

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Laura: Okay.

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Well then I think there is room for,

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there's room for one we haven't met yet.

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Xhafer: Okay.

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Laura: Possibly even two.

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I could have whiffed somewhere in here.

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And

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Xhafer: You might have,

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Laura: a second one we haven't met yet.

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I might have whiffed the whole thing.

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I don't know.

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But you do.

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Xhafer: I do.

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Yeah.

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I am sipping on a beer, keeping

the straightest of faces.

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Right now

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Laura: Yep.

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Xhafer: I feel like I've

got a decent poker face.

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I mean, I don't know.

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Laura: I have gleaned nothing

from your expressions, so,

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Xhafer: That is, that is the goal.

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Laura: okay, so that's the silent count.

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I'm gonna say plus one at the

end for, we haven't met one yet,

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okay, so we've got a silent count.

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What else do we wanna go over?

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Xhafer: We had a request

from Ryan from Yum.

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Yum.

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Our friend, over on Yum Yu podcast.

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Go check out Yum Yum.

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Podcast

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Laura: dear friend.

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Xhafer: They're currently

covering Killjoy still go, go.

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Give it a listen.

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Who wanted to hear more of our

perspective of Battlestar Galactica

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has a nine 11 era piece of media.

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And how it feels nowadays.

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We did talk to him a little bit about

this last time because obviously as

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Americans as we are we have a little

bit different fifis about nine 11

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than someone with an international

perspective would, I would think depending

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on that international perspective.

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I imagine like in Afg,

Afghani might, you know,

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Laura: Feel ways about

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Xhafer: few ways about stuff.

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So.

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Yeah.

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Um, man, I uh, I don't like, I

mean, this show started and I was

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like in my mid twenties, right?

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: And it was, I started

watching it before I had

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taken any, like, film classes.

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And I will say, I don't think

I was like a dummy back then.

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I know I wasn't dumb.

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But I definitely feel like I'm

a lot more of a critical thinker

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now, and I definitely, I will say

I was definitely more susceptible

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to propaganda in my youth.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Well, aren't, I think we all

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Xhafer: we all are.

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Yeah.

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I

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: yeah, it's a, it's, it's

an important thing to recognize.

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I mean, I can say part of that

is just I was young and dumb.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Uh, I can say part of that was,

you know, having the uh, incredible right

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wing upbringing I did for my dad uh, that

my mom did a really good job of tempering.

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By the way, shout out mom.

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Happy

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Laura: Yay, mom.

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Happy birthday, mom.

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Xhafer: But I called,

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Laura: son.

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Good.

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Xhafer: but uh.

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you know, she did a very good job of

like pulling me aside and be like, Hey,

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you know, those are your dad's opinions.

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It's important to think about what you

want out of society and to government and

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life, and think about those things and

how they relate to politicians rather than

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just listen to what someone tells you.

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Good job, mom.

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Put me on the path to critical thinking.

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For sure.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: so when I think about like my

first time watching this, it as a like,

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critique of society post nine 11 is,

especially for the first couple of seasons

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where I feel like it's the most obvious

in this watch through, it's something

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that like I didn't even think about.

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Laura: Oh yeah.

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I would've missed all of this for sure.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: So I mean, and in the time.

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It did not feel propaganda at

all because there was much, much

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stronger propaganda stuff going on.

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Laura: For sure.

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That's what I was thinking when you

just like introduced this question was

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like, well, you know, there was a lot of

propaganda pieces out there right after

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nine 11, and I don't feel like this is

as, I don't feel like this is propaganda.

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I feel like it's a subtle subversion

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Xhafer: Yes, it does feel

like a critique at times.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: and that will become more and

more apparent and more and more prevalent

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as we get farther into the show.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: I think I remember, at least

what I remember of the finale, the

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later seasons for sure are a little bit

more like the, no, no one wins a war.

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There, there is a victor, but everyone

who participates in a war loses.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: definitely a vibe that this

story is gunning towards right now.

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And I mean, I don't think that's

a, a surprise or a spoiler.

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Laura: Yeah, no, I don't think you're

giving anything there away there.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I didn't watch this at the

time, so I kind of miss some of

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that, like vibes and just looking

back, thinking about that time.

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I absolutely would not have clocked any of

the like, oh, what about people's rights?

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You know?

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Uh I think there was still a very strong

in, and I talked about this in Babylon

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five too, a very strong sense within

myself of like, oh yes, the man in

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charge has our best interest at heart.

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Whoever's in charge has that.

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And it started to crumble real

quick when I became a young adult.

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Go figure.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: and I no longer see the, there

was this sort of, this default in my

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head of like, yeah, it's, it's a dude.

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And I actually think that if probably

like 80% of the dudes who are out

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there trying to lead stuff right now.

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Stepped aside and let women handle

the shit, it would probably go better.

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Like

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Xhafer: Laura, I don't know if

you know this, but women are too

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emotional to be effective leaders.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We have too many of the other

emotions that aren't anger.

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Right.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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They, they really cloud your

judgment, anger famously

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never clouds one's judgment.

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Laura: It's for effectiveness.

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Xhafer: yes, a hundred percent.

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That's why we have a Department of

War and that department of Defense.

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Laura: my God.

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See, then this is where, I guess we can go

ahead and flip to the other half of Ryan's

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question about, how about now, guys?

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Xhafer: Fucking yikes.

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Laura: Fucking yikes.

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Like we, we did the Babylon five

thing and we did the, oh my God.

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JMS was so prescient, blah, blah, blah.

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But Ron, Ron d Moore, Ronnie d.

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Xhafer: Ronnie d.

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Laura: You really like, oh my God, you

hit something that really, really hurts.

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Xhafer: It really, really hurts.

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And I mean, obviously there's issues of

fascism and genocide, you know, are big

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parts of this story and those are things

that are happening in our world currently

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Laura: Actively happening.

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And then our leaders,

as you know, one of the.

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Top powers of the world are actively doing

and engaging in and calling for like open

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instead of just like, it being like some

papers shuffled around in a back room.

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It's like on the screens.

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Xhafer: Yeah,

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: it's crazy right now.

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Um, it's crazy in America.

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It feels weird.

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Things feel different than they did a

year ago in a lot of very tangible ways.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Yep.

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Well, okay, let me, let me tell a story,

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Xhafer: Okay.

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Laura: 'Cause you're probably not privy

to the regional Oklahoma news, right?

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Xhafer: Uh, No.

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I, I, I would go as far as to say

is that I make a point not to be.

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Laura: Yeah, I don't know.

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You might wanna keep an eye because

we might be a barometer of stuff

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Xhafer: Yeah,

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Laura: in parts of the country that

could be an issue for you later,

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Xhafer: well,

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Laura: so.

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Xhafer: most of the country wants to

make its problems, my issues, despite my

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invested interest in that not happening.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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so.

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In the last couple of days, our governor,

governor, Kevin Stitt, a superior asshole.

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Xhafer: I do know about

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Laura: okay, well the listeners

may not so let's just go ahead.

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Let's just charge forward.

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Xhafer: I think I read about

this earlier today actually.

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Laura: Yeah.

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'cause it super sucks.

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Has decided.

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That the Oklahoma Highway Patrol are

going to be used to clean up homeless

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encampments, and I think it was starting

in Tulsa, but they're probably going

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to to bring it to Oklahoma City soon.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: And in his, I don't know, press

release, is that what they call it?

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When people went out stuff,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: He phrased it as, you

know, these people are a danger

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to families and what have you.

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Xhafer: Oh yeah.

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Gotta be a danger to families.

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Laura: Yeah.

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And uh, they will either, we will

be cleaning up these encampments

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and they will be offered either

a ride to a treatment center

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or a shelter or a ride to jail.

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And I'm sitting here going.

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What if the treatment centers

or the shelters are full,

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what do you do then, Kevin?

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Xhafer: Jail

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Laura: you gonna do?

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Yeah.

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And, and that person didn't even,

you know, they said, you know what?

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Oh, thank God, OHP, you

finally came and got me.

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I was just waiting for someone to

come get me off the street, you know?

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Take me to a treatment center and they,

they try or they say, actually, sorry.

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Awful.

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We're going to jail.

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Like, I, I don't know.

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It just, it.

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Xhafer: Yeah, well, I mean the,

the homeless are degenerates.

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They always are.

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Because if you don't have a home,

it's 'cause you don't have a job.

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And if you don't have a job it's

'cause you have no work ethic

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and that's a moral failing.

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So, you know, it's simple logic

really, when you break it down.

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I really hope that this isn't

your first episode listener,

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and you know my sarcasm voice,

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Laura: yeah.

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Yeah.

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If this is your first episode,

why are you coming in here?

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Can you go back, go back a bit?

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Xhafer: Just rewind like at

least five, six weeks please.

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Laura: Love you.

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Please go back.

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Thanks.

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Um, and I just, it's so

bizarre to me and, and.

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You know, we, I think we men, we

mentioned it in the discord that a

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couple weeks ago, Aaron and I were

witnesses to a violent crime in

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the city.

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Xhafer: I don't, I don't

remember if you meant, I don't,

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Laura: I think because the episode

came out late, I said something,

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um, but this, isn't it sending

the Oklahoma Highway Patrol to.

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Forcibly remove people and stuff.

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The Oklahoma County jail

with more people is not it.

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Xhafer: I mean, the more people

are in jail, the more free labor

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we have and we know how we feel

about free labor in America.

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Laura: It's wild.

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It's wild.

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We're going so far backwards over

fears and I guess, and it feels

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like it all started unraveling.

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In this era, in the the 2001 times.

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But you know what, it feels like that

to me because that's when I came of age.

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I have no idea when

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Xhafer: Well, I mean the Patriot Act

is a good place to point towards.

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This encroachment of executive power

simultaneously going hand in hand

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with a loss of personal liberty.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: The Patriot Act does both of

those things and was a big landmark bill

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that did that you know, that was supposed

to have to get renewed like every year.

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Wonder, wonder what happened with that?

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: He says, sarcastically,

knowing the answer, um, ugh.

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Like normally I'm all

like slippery slopes.

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Seems like some bullshit argument,

but that was a slippery slope.

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In hindsight.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: Ugh.

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Yeah.

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Laura: it, feels like we've somehow

taken these fears and we use them to

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justify all kinds of things to people.

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bad things happening to people,

and we're, but we still refuse

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to deal with the real problem.

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And some of the real emergent problems

is that a lot of the, the mass

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shootings and such that we have are

perpetrated by young white males but

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they could do no wrong in the

eyes of our administration.

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They were pushed to it or something.

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Xhafer: no way to stop.

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This says only country in the

world where this regularly happens.

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Laura: Exactly.

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It's really wild.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: We just keep letting it

happen because they have more

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freedom than us or something.

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Xhafer: I don't, well, I

mean, I don't fucking know.

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Laura: And, and then you get the

NRA saying, well, we're never gonna

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let our freedoms be taken away.

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And yet we are watching lots of

people's freedoms being taken away.

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Xhafer: Yeah, yeah.

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Everyone who was waiting for a fascist

government and was keeping all those

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guns handy to fight them any day now.

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Laura: Yeah,

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the National Guard going

into cities like not just dc.

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We're trying to figure out how we can

do Chicago and New Orleans, and I'm

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Xhafer: you see the uh, the tweet

of, well, it's not tweet because it's

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truth, social, whatever, about Chicago.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Fuck.

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Xhafer: About to find out why they

called the Department of War while

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simul simultaneously pressing to

get awarded a Nobel Peace Prize.

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Laura: Oh, and that's another like

crazy cognitive dissonance is that

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Xhafer: so.

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Laura: Well, you know, he, he says

he deserves his Nobel Peace Prize

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for the COVID vaccines, right?

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For how fast he was able

to get COVID vaccines out.

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And he's got this fucking lunatic at the

CDC trying to take away all vaccines.

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Xhafer: Defunding everything.

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Yeah.

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Laura: I'm like, what?

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Xhafer: Defend.

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Laura: How?

506

How do people sleep at night?

507

Xhafer: Do, do you know that we

have a cancer vaccine right now?

508

We have a

509

Laura: HPV vaccine.

510

Xhafer: No, no an no, an

actual cancer vaccine.

511

We've developed an RMNA vaccine

that sits in your bloodstream.

512

The reason why cancer gets

bad right, is your white blood

513

cells don't know to attack it.

514

It is, it, it activates a thing where

it just is blind to your white blood

515

cells, so your immune system doesn't

do anything, which lets it grow.

516

They have identified using.

517

The genetic code stuff, a way to make an

R-M-N-N-A vaccine that makes it so that

518

cancer cells can't do that, and then

your body just attacks them like normal.

519

Laura: Uhhuh

520

Xhafer: Yeah.

521

We have this, this is a thing that exists.

522

It's, it's working in mice, right?

523

There's, there's been no human trials.

524

It's very new, right?

525

This is not like a go get your cancer

shot tomorrow, kind of a thing.

526

This is still years away.

527

From any kind of deployment.

528

Well, it was years away and now

529

Laura: decades.

530

Xhafer: now it's hopefully just

the researchers are picking up

531

and moving to Europe or moving

to big pharma or something.

532

Those are the best case

scenarios right now.

533

Laura: So what you're telling

me is we've got cylon blurred.

534

Xhafer: Silent Bird, the

special baby, magic bird.

535

Laura: Had to bring it back to the

podcast for a second instead of

536

just like Americans ranting and

how crazy the world is around them.

537

Xhafer: Oh yeah.

538

It's just, fuck, everything's fucked.

539

Speaking of everything being

fucked, I got another question

540

Laura: All right,

541

Xhafer: to this.

542

Laura: cool.

543

That one went so well.

544

Xhafer: Ben wants to know,

545

Laura: Okay.

546

Xhafer: uh, We all know that

baltar is the worst, but who

547

will compete for second place?

548

I

549

Laura: Ah,

550

Xhafer: question.

551

Laura: baltar equals worst for sure.

552

For sure, for sure.

553

Second place

554

if you could hear the taps.

555

That was me writing three question marks.

556

Xhafer: I mean, who's gonna compete?

557

You don't have to pick second,

558

Laura: That's a, that's a great question.

559

I, I feel like obviously we have set

up Ellen Tai as potential problem

560

very well in these first two seasons.

561

Xhafer: Yeah

562

Laura: cause she always be doing stuff.

563

Oh.

564

And you notice I didn't

put her on the s list.

565

Xhafer: you did not put her on the

566

Laura: I did not, and I think that

I have just in my heart kind of

567

accepted that there are some really

like problematic humans out there.

568

Xhafer: There are shit people for sure.

569

Shit people exist.

570

Laura: Yeah.

571

And obviously Baltar is the shittiest.

572

Xhafer: Yeah.

573

I mean.

574

Laura: But I think, you know,

Ellen Ty's kind of a problem.

575

She could easily be a contender,

but I also think that her

576

husband could be a contender.

577

Xhafer: Uh, Sa.

578

Laura: Yeah, he was not great.

579

He's pretty flawed in the first season.

580

He's, he seems to do okay when Daddy

Adama is there to keep him in check.

581

Right.

582

Xhafer: Yeah.

583

Laura: But Papa Dama had done left

at the end of the last episode,

584

Xhafer: Yes,

585

Laura: and we do not know

how long he's gonna be gone.

586

Xhafer: we do not.

587

Laura: I mean, how many day,

how many episodes was he

588

really out after he got shot?

589

Like four?

590

Xhafer: Yeah.

591

Laura: And Saul, Ty fucked things

up pretty bad in that time.

592

Xhafer: Real bad.

593

Laura: Hmm.

594

You know, you said.

595

In the last episode that we're gonna get

a couple more presidents throughout this.

596

Xhafer: Yeah, I, I don't remember if I put

a number on it, but I can name a couple.

597

Laura: Yeah.

598

If I had to just guess, I don't know

if this is part of your game that

599

you have for later or not, but I.

600

I wouldn't be surprised if somehow in

all this like new Caprica rebellion stuff

601

that Saul becomes president by like taking

like deposing baltar because fuck Baltar.

602

Xhafer: Okay.

603

That's something that could happen.

604

Laura: it, it could happen.

605

I think he makes himself like, you know,

military dictator president kind of thing,

606

Xhafer: Like he did it last time.

607

Yeah.

608

Laura: may maybe not

great, maybe not great,

609

Xhafer: Maybe not.

610

Great.

611

Laura: but.

612

can see it happening.

613

Xhafer: It's war time.

614

You don't have to have

elections in war time.

615

Laura: Yeah.

616

Xhafer: Um, famously.

617

Yeah, that's, that's the rule.

618

Everyone knows it.

619

Laura: Okay, so we've got Ellen

and Saul as possible Contenders.

620

Xhafer: I like that list.

621

You got anyone else you

wanna throw in there?

622

Laura: I feel

623

Xhafer: Like a dark

gimme a dark horse Pick.

624

Give me

625

Laura: a dark horse

626

Xhafer: like, someone that you're

like, I don't see this happening,

627

but I know that the potential for

this exists within their character.

628

I.

629

Laura: Hmm,

630

Xhafer: Who could be the

worst, who's fine right now?

631

Tolerable.

632

Maybe even,

633

maybe even liked, but, but maybe

they just one, one last straw

634

and they snap and become someone

who wants to see the world burn.

635

Laura: could see Lee maybe.

636

Xhafer: Okay.

637

Lee could be the worst.

638

Laura: because I feel like if you were

gonna take one of the like, young hot main

639

characters and take that turn, you would

like think it was gonna be Starbucks.

640

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

641

Laura: oops, it's actually Lee.

642

Xhafer: Supplies.

643

Laura: Yeah, I, I feel like

Lee could be a problem.

644

I also feel like Callie

could be a problem.

645

I think, you know, she's

been really like Meek

646

and

647

Xhafer: mean, Kelly in real

life famously was a problem.

648

Laura: like the actress

649

Xhafer: The actress got caught up in that

650

Laura: Oh, she was in the Nex VM thing?

651

Yeah.

652

Yeah.

653

Um, I feel like, you know, they

played her, she's played very meekly

654

for most of this first half, right?

655

Xhafer: Yeah.

656

Laura: But she did do that thing where

she went rogue and shot boomer and

657

also she kind of like ran to daddy

DMA a couple of times, I think, or

658

at least once to like stir the pot.

659

Xhafer: Yeah,

660

Laura: So.

661

that can be troublesome.

662

And that's, that's Ellen's

like way to do things is like

663

the covert, stir the pot, like

664

Xhafer: Yeah.

665

Laura: get things nice and bubbly.

666

Yeah.

667

Xhafer: mean, who knows?

668

You know, she gets a whole

mama bear vibe going on.

669

Laura: Yeah.

670

That would be very silent

of her, wouldn't it?

671

Xhafer: Yeah.

672

Laura: That'd be very silent.

673

Yeah.

674

Okay, so those are my picks, Ben.

675

Xhafer: All right.

676

Kristen wants to know what do he

think's gonna happen with the Cylon kid?

677

Laura: I feel like I've said that

we are gonna get some kind of

678

creepy little girl situation, right?

679

Xhafer: I believe we've hit the very

least diluted to creepy little girl.

680

Laura: Yeah.

681

Xhafer: Yeah.

682

Laura: like some sort of horror movie kind

of little girl who just like stares and

683

Xhafer: Oh yeah, that's

684

Laura: Yeah.

685

Maybe she like.

686

Knows things she shouldn't know.

687

'cause she can like see into

your soul with those eyes.

688

Xhafer: Prophetic, cylon baby, maybe?

689

Yeah.

690

Laura: I feel like she's gonna have either

like extremely bright blue eyes, like

691

silvery blue eyes or like very dark eyes.

692

Something, something notable

that's gonna creep us out.

693

But if we're not gonna get another

time jump, I don't know what we can do.

694

Really, unless Cylon baby somehow ages up,

695

Xhafer: Okay.

696

Laura: so, Hmm.

697

Xhafer: I

698

Laura: I don't know.

699

Xhafer: we do have a time jump.

700

We did have one there.

701

We haven't seen Harris since

the time jump, but we did jump

702

a year forward at the end of

703

Laura: We saw the baby though.

704

We saw a 1-year-old baby.

705

Xhafer: That.

706

Laura: I think so.

707

I mean, I thought that was what

it was supposed to be implied.

708

'cause it was Maya.

709

Right.

710

And Maya's the one who took care.

711

Xhafer: Yeah.

712

Yeah, that's mine.

713

So.

714

Okay.

715

Um,

716

Laura: We'll see.

717

Xhafer: we'll see.

718

Alright I got another one here from Ryan.

719

He wants an update on what

you think six PTs thing is.

720

Laura: Oh man, I don't fucking know.

721

Ryan.

722

Thanks a lot.

723

Xhafer: That's good.

724

You can leave it at that,

725

Laura: I mean, I guess, I guess I

wanted to ask this, this was one of

726

the questions I wanted to ask you.

727

Xhafer: okay?

728

Laura: Because we had the year jump

729

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

730

Laura: it to me, seems like

six PT has been gone from Gaia

731

Baltar for that whole year.

732

Xhafer: She will leave

for periods of time.

733

Laura: Right.

734

And it seems like she was not there.

735

That's my

736

Xhafer: She was busy

doing other silent stuff.

737

Laura: Yeah.

738

Well, and like she was pretty mad

about his like, entanglement with Gina.

739

Xhafer: Yes.

740

Laura: So they had their

romantic rendezvous or whatever

741

before she blew herself up.

742

And my, my guess would be that Gaia

Balter has not seen six PT since then.

743

Xhafer: Okay.

744

I mean, we have now Caprica six on

Colonial one standing in front of

745

Gaas for the first time in person

746

in a long time.

747

Laura: Yeah.

748

Xhafer: And we know that Caprica six has

uh, CCUs Is that, that's what we decided

749

Laura: Yeah, we decide on a gr uhhuh.

750

Xhafer: Ruckus.

751

So, uh, you know, that's a whole

thing too that could factor into this.

752

Laura: What if their, what if their,

um, six PT and gr start talking to

753

each other and they can see each other?

754

Like, so you have like gaas and.

755

Caprica six in the room and they're

two I don't know, personality

756

defects or whatever they are,

are talking to each other.

757

That would be hysterical.

758

Xhafer: That could be a fun scene.

759

I hope they get freaks

to direct that episode.

760

Laura: Yeah, he would be good at that.

761

Xhafer: okay.

762

Whose death would hit you the hardest?

763

Out of all the characters right now?

764

Laura: Whose death would

hit me the hardest.

765

Xhafer: Not necessarily do they die, but.

766

Whose death would be the most

difficult for you emotionally?

767

Laura: Yeah.

768

If, if they died, I think I would

probably feel pretty sad about Papa dama.

769

Xhafer: Papa Diane?

770

Yeah.

771

Laura: I think so, and I think that the

patriarchy got me on that one, but dammit,

772

I just don't want daddy to die.

773

Uh, I would be sad about Rosalyn too, even

though I've put her on the silent list.

774

Like I, I like mom and dad.

775

I really want mom and

dad to figure it out.

776

Xhafer: Yeah.

777

Laura: I really want them to be okay.

778

Xhafer: Yeah.

779

Laura: And I want their, their children,

the whole human race to also be okay.

780

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

781

Let's see.

782

There's a couple more on here, some of

which are kind of just directly related

783

to my quiz or stuff we've already

answered, um, but there was a little

784

bit about swapping a character between

Babylon five and Battlestar Galactica.

785

Laura: Oh man,

786

that's good.

787

Xhafer: what swap would fit best

and what swap would fit worst?

788

Laura: Okay.

789

I think A really useful swap.

790

I don't know if this is the

best swap or not, but Jaar

791

would be a damn useful person.

792

Xhafer: Sure would

793

Laura: Yeah.

794

I think Sheridan would be

hilarious because of the nukes.

795

Xhafer: They, they run outta nukes

in the first episode with Sheridan.

796

Laura: Right, right.

797

Yeah.

798

Yeah.

799

I think, I think Jaar

would be very useful.

800

I think Garibaldi would fit right in.

801

I think he's a paranoid

motherfucker with, with

802

Xhafer: call.

803

Laura: bad security,

man, he's so bad at it.

804

He just slot right in, like

he's a normal human being.

805

Xhafer: Can I, can I propose one

to you that I was thinking about?

806

Wouldn't it be fun if instead

of Gais, we had Bester and

807

instead of the science it was.

808

Psychic stuff, and it was still, all

the plot lines remained the same.

809

Laura: Uhhuh.

810

Xhafer: Like he, he, he can

detect the silence, but like

811

he, it's not trustworthy.

812

He's doing it for his own

purposes and everything.

813

You know, like doesn't

actually tell anyone the truth.

814

Laura: Wow.

815

That would make Gaia so

much even worse though,

816

Xhafer: I dunno how the

six PT stuff fits in.

817

I don't.

818

Walter Konig, that could, that

makes me a little uncomfortable.

819

He's like, grandpa uh, I don't

wanna see grandpa being horny, but

820

Laura: right.

821

You gotta like dial

him back to TOS Sierra.

822

Uh, Yeah.

823

You know, who could be very amusing.

824

I would like to see the

episode set on cloud nine.

825

Ellen and Lando get into shenanigans.

826

Xhafer: Just switch.

827

Ellen and Alando.

828

Just solace.

829

Married tolando.

830

Make it happen.

831

Laura: that would be real good.

832

Ooh, maybe.

833

Maybe a lease.

834

Should be president

835

Xhafer: Mm.

836

We do love lease.

837

Laura: and she was president

of her own company.

838

Xhafer: Yeah.

839

Yeah.

840

Laura: Babylon five.

841

So maybe we should have President Lease.

842

Xhafer: Weis.

843

Okay.

844

So I've got my quiz.

845

We'll, we will do that after,

but do you have any stuff for me?

846

Laura: I wanted this to say

the thing about, I think six

847

PT has been gone for a year.

848

I don't remember if I've

posed this question yet.

849

I, I hope I didn't pose it in

the last episode, but I don't

850

remember when I thought of it.

851

But remember how President Baltar ran

on Rosalyn's taking away our freedoms

852

because she took away the right for.

853

Reproductive freedom

and to have an abortion.

854

Do you think guys,

Baltar got that restored?

855

Xhafer: Did he bother to do the thing?

856

I'm gonna say probably not.

857

I don't

858

Laura: I'm thinking probably not.

859

Xhafer: I don't, I don't remember if

this is actually brought up at any point.

860

But yeah, I, I'm gonna guess

he just kept pushing it off

861

and was gonna get around to it.

862

Laura: Yeah, the, the quorum

of 12, are they still around?

863

Can I ask that?

864

Xhafer: I believe that is a spoiler.

865

Laura: Oh, okay.

866

Alright.

867

'Cause it seems like you could

be stripping their power in a

868

year, but maybe they're still

869

Xhafer: Yeah, I think you can completely

remove a branch of government in, I

870

don't know, nine and a half months.

871

Laura: Oh, don't know.

872

Got too real again.

873

Xhafer: Saw,

874

Laura: Okay.

875

Yeah.

876

Maybe the quorum of 12 is not around.

877

Um, I hope that Tom Zurich is trying

to lead some kind of resistance.

878

I think that would be really sweet.

879

Xhafer: It seems Tom Zaki.

880

Laura: yeah.

881

You know what?

882

If I had to make like President picks

right now, I, I'm still writing for Saul

883

Tie, probably declares himself, president

somehow in the resistance process.

884

But also Tom Za is a strong contender,

885

Xhafer: Tom's Eric.

886

Possible president.

887

Laura: possible president,

very charismatic.

888

He just, he didn't have.

889

The right person to go up against him.

890

Rosalyn.

891

Rosalyn was just too likable and

he said that himself like, just

892

can't, with Rosalyn not gonna work.

893

But you know, who's not fucking likable.

894

Xhafer: The guy is Ballar.

895

Laura: Yeah.

896

I mean, he could also be a problem,

but I don't, I don't know uh,

897

anybody's better than guys Baltar so.

898

Yeah.

899

Did I have any other important questions

for you that you probably can't answer?

900

So new caprica setting seems very gray.

901

We're not gonna get like Caprica

yellow, Caprica orange, caprica green

902

Xhafer: It's a pretty gray planet.

903

Laura: be all very, very gray.

904

Do we see any reason to try to

go back to CAPA at this point?

905

Xhafer: I would be interested

in the possibility of that, but

906

Laura: Mm-hmm.

907

Xhafer: I, I mean, I don't,

908

Laura: I think this occupation is probably

gonna have population ramifications, so,

909

Xhafer: I.

910

Laura: yeah.

911

Yeah.

912

I wonder if they're still gonna

be on the reproduction thing.

913

Xhafer: Yeah.

914

Laura: Great question.

915

They're gonna be looking for that baby

if they find out that baby was had.

916

Xhafer: Yeah, for sure.

917

Laura: And Sharon is probably

still a going concern, not

918

not Boomer reboot, but Sharon.

919

Sharon,

920

Xhafer: Yeah.

921

Laura: although the Cavel, you're

telling me probably got airlock.

922

Xhafer: I think the cas get airlock.

923

Laura: Yeah.

924

Okay.

925

Xhafer: Okay.

926

You ready for this quiz?

927

Laura: Okay.

928

I guess.

929

Xhafer: Okay, so here's the deal.

930

I have a, well, first off, I

want to define a passing grade.

931

I don't know what a passing grade is.

932

I haven't been in school

in a long ass time.

933

Laura: I can get one C in my PhD program,

934

Xhafer: You can get ac.

935

Okay,

936

Laura: single c.

937

Xhafer: so we'll say above

a 70% is a passing grade.

938

I have a 16 question quiz with

a possibility of a bonus point.

939

So if you get this one wrong,

it doesn't count against you.

940

If it get it right, it counts for you.

941

Laura: Okay.

942

Xhafer: And I wanna start

with that one within a range.

943

I'm gonna round down

to the nearest hundred.

944

With within a range of, we'll say

plus or minus 200, what is the final

945

survivor count for the human race?

946

Now I'm gonna specify here I am not

saying at the end of the finale,

947

I will, I will actually give a

little bit of a, a spoiler here.

948

I guess not really, but the

finale is a three parter.

949

Laura: Mm.

950

Xhafer: That is meant to air as

like a two and a half hour movie.

951

Laura: Okay.

952

Xhafer: So we do not get a

survivor count on like the title

953

credits for the finale itself.

954

So we have to go back to

season four, episode 19.

955

Daybreak part one, to get the last

survivor count from a theme that does

956

change things 'cause it's before any

cliffhangers in the finale, before any

957

big fights or budget blowing things.

958

A lot of stuff can happen in the finale,

959

so I want plus or minus within

a hundred of where we're at.

960

At the start of the finale, we'll see

plus or minus 200, and I've rounded.

961

Laura: And we started this at like 48,000

962

Xhafer: Also, I'm not gonna tell

you if you get anything right

963

or wrong, this entire quiz.

964

Laura: I figured you

965

Xhafer: I, will tell

you if you pass or fail,

966

Laura: Okay.

967

Yeah.

968

Xhafer: oh, and there's no surprise

I didn't tell you about the prize.

969

I.

970

Laura: Oh, no.

971

Xhafer: No, no.

972

no.

973

This is, this is fun.

974

This is fun.

975

And if you, if you don't

get it, you don't get it.

976

And also it's kind of on

me to make sure you get it.

977

So that's fun too.

978

But if you get a 70% or higher on this

quiz, the next time I win a season of

979

last time on, you get to pick the show.

980

I can't, I I didn't ask

Ben and Vic ahead of time.

981

Uh,

982

if they

983

would also volunteer.

984

Well also, like we have rules

about shows that we can pick.

985

It has to be X amount of episodes for

the algorithm to work properly, it has

986

to be something none of us have seen.

987

So we'll work out the

details if you get it later.

988

Um, but, and if Ben and Vic also

feel like volunteering their

989

pick, that's their business.

990

I wasn't going to volunteer them, but

that's what's on the line right now is the

991

next time I win LTO, you pick the show.

992

Laura: I really want this now.

993

Okay.

994

Xhafer: Plus or minus

200 Final survivor count.

995

Daybreak part one.

996

Laura: I'm gonna go with, and this,

this feels like a big haircut to me, but

997

Xhafer: It's two seasons of the show.

998

Laura: two seasons of show, we've

got silence on the fucking surface.

999

Um.

00:44:02,275 --> 00:44:05,995

And who knows how many ships actually

escapes that could get these people away

00:44:06,055 --> 00:44:07,585

Xhafer: Yeah, that's a whole thing too.

00:44:08,395 --> 00:44:10,990

Laura: So it feels like

a big haircut to me.

00:44:10,990 --> 00:44:13,030

But somebody out there is

probably gonna immediately start

00:44:13,030 --> 00:44:15,070

laughing is the rest of that.

00:44:15,070 --> 00:44:17,080

'cause they're gonna be

like, ha ha, she's so wrong.

00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,670

Xhafer: Maybe you get it though.

00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:20,800

You won't know until the finale.

00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:21,340

You won't know.

00:44:22,210 --> 00:44:25,570

Laura: I'm gonna go with like 15,850.

00:44:26,050 --> 00:44:27,528

Xhafer: Okay, cool.

00:44:28,081 --> 00:44:30,661

We talked about it earlier, 12 models.

00:44:31,261 --> 00:44:32,071

We know seven.

00:44:32,466 --> 00:44:32,886

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:44:33,931 --> 00:44:40,471

Xhafer: Have we met all of the characters

who will be revealed to be silents,

00:44:41,221 --> 00:44:46,051

so, so if there's a new character

that drops, this doesn't count, right?

00:44:46,321 --> 00:44:51,631

Just everyone who's gonna be revealed to

be a silent, not counting like the short

00:44:51,631 --> 00:44:55,261

term, we introduce a character and they're

silent in two episodes kind of a thing.

00:44:55,696 --> 00:44:55,816

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:44:57,004 --> 00:44:59,194

Well, I don't think we've

met all the silences yet.

00:44:59,224 --> 00:45:00,349

Is that what you're trying to

00:45:00,409 --> 00:45:01,939

Xhafer: Yeah, that's,

that's what I'm asking.

00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:02,329

Laura: Yeah.

00:45:02,434 --> 00:45:04,234

I don't think we've met

all the silences yet.

00:45:04,234 --> 00:45:07,144

I think we have room for

at least one, maybe two.

00:45:07,609 --> 00:45:07,909

Xhafer: Okay.

00:45:08,169 --> 00:45:08,289

Laura: I.

00:45:08,666 --> 00:45:13,316

Xhafer: The next is I have

put together every title card.

00:45:14,186 --> 00:45:17,546

Actor and actress over the

four seasons of the show.

00:45:17,966 --> 00:45:22,016

So anyone whose name appears

before the end credits

00:45:22,436 --> 00:45:22,726

Laura: Okay.

00:45:23,306 --> 00:45:29,126

Xhafer: for each of them, I would like you

to answer, is it stupid or is it silent?

00:45:30,015 --> 00:45:30,305

Laura: Okay.

00:45:31,225 --> 00:45:32,640

Xhafer: There is no third option here.

00:45:32,725 --> 00:45:34,615

So it's either they're

stupid or they're a silent,

00:45:35,095 --> 00:45:35,385

Laura: Okay.

00:45:35,875 --> 00:45:38,365

Xhafer: which is just

the bit from the show.

00:45:38,425 --> 00:45:39,865

They're not necessarily stupid.

00:45:40,315 --> 00:45:43,375

Laura: Okay, so these

are like guest stars.

00:45:43,630 --> 00:45:44,470

Xhafer: No, no.

00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:46,030

Like number one is Papa dama.

00:45:47,470 --> 00:45:47,800

Bill.

00:45:47,860 --> 00:45:49,120

Bill ca.

00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:50,110

Commander.

00:45:50,380 --> 00:45:51,850

Admiral Billa.

00:45:52,345 --> 00:45:54,055

Laura: Is he stupid or is he a silent?

00:45:54,190 --> 00:45:54,490

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:45:55,233 --> 00:45:55,623

Laura: Hmm.

00:45:55,893 --> 00:45:57,153

I think he's just stupid.

00:45:57,558 --> 00:45:58,008

Xhafer: Okay.

00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:59,400

Laura Roslyn.

00:46:00,165 --> 00:46:01,395

Laura: I think she's a silent, yeah.

00:46:02,610 --> 00:46:03,030

Xhafer: Okay.

00:46:03,668 --> 00:46:04,418

Starbuck.

00:46:04,901 --> 00:46:05,531

Laura: Stupid.

00:46:07,016 --> 00:46:07,646

Xhafer: Okay.

00:46:09,026 --> 00:46:09,656

Apollo

00:46:09,881 --> 00:46:11,201

Laura: in buck stands for.

00:46:16,551 --> 00:46:17,181

Apollo.

00:46:17,361 --> 00:46:17,961

Stupid.

00:46:18,351 --> 00:46:19,221

Very stupid.

00:46:20,406 --> 00:46:20,766

Xhafer: guy altar,

00:46:21,801 --> 00:46:23,121

Laura: Exceptionally stupid.

00:46:23,121 --> 00:46:24,231

The dumbest, in fact.

00:46:24,901 --> 00:46:27,396

Xhafer: so dumb salt high.

00:46:28,431 --> 00:46:31,671

Laura: Oh, also very dumb,

but kind of in a sadder way.

00:46:32,632 --> 00:46:33,592

Xhafer: Galen Tyrell

00:46:35,062 --> 00:46:36,592

Laura: Oh, I, hmm.

00:46:37,012 --> 00:46:38,902

You're gonna make, this is

where you're making me choose.

00:46:38,902 --> 00:46:40,402

Xhafer: This is where

I'm making you choose.

00:46:40,402 --> 00:46:42,982

And I will say that Callie

is also on this list.

00:46:43,762 --> 00:46:44,842

We just haven't gotten there yet.

00:46:45,322 --> 00:46:45,742

Laura: Well,

00:46:46,778 --> 00:46:48,398

Xhafer: Now that it kind of goes in order.

00:46:48,398 --> 00:46:51,638

So we, we, we start to get

into less important characters.

00:46:51,668 --> 00:46:53,408

'cause they go in, they're like.

00:46:54,548 --> 00:46:55,238

Prestigious.

00:46:55,238 --> 00:46:56,648

I don't know how this is determined.

00:46:57,173 --> 00:47:00,023

Laura: I am trying to think of

which is more delicious for me,

00:47:00,833 --> 00:47:03,503

and I think it's more delicious

for me if Cali is the island.

00:47:03,593 --> 00:47:05,993

So I'm gonna say Tyrell is just stupid.

00:47:05,993 --> 00:47:06,593

I'm sorry, Tyre.

00:47:07,118 --> 00:47:07,658

Xhafer: Okay.

00:47:08,168 --> 00:47:09,245

Hilo

00:47:09,538 --> 00:47:10,893

Laura: Oh, he's very stupid.

00:47:11,742 --> 00:47:11,862

Xhafer: D.

00:47:12,688 --> 00:47:13,318

Laura: Hmm.

00:47:13,468 --> 00:47:15,058

I've been very suspicious of Dee.

00:47:15,943 --> 00:47:19,603

But I think that she and Lee are stupid.

00:47:20,471 --> 00:47:21,041

Xhafer: Billy,

00:47:21,973 --> 00:47:23,173

Laura: Billy's dead.

00:47:23,813 --> 00:47:27,803

Xhafer: There are, it's anyone

who was a main title character.

00:47:28,403 --> 00:47:28,433

Cylance

00:47:29,093 --> 00:47:31,433

Laura: Oh, so you're saying

Billy could come back?

00:47:31,433 --> 00:47:31,703

No.

00:47:31,703 --> 00:47:33,503

Poor Billy was just stupid.

00:47:33,593 --> 00:47:34,988

I liked Billy, but he was dumb.

00:47:35,632 --> 00:47:36,562

Xhafer: Felix Gada.

00:47:37,107 --> 00:47:41,097

Laura: I believe he has a silent,

I'm very suspicious of that, that

00:47:41,877 --> 00:47:45,357

that thing he pulled off, that

put fucking balter in charge.

00:47:45,816 --> 00:47:46,896

Xhafer: Crash down.

00:47:47,976 --> 00:47:48,276

Laura: Oh.

00:47:48,276 --> 00:47:49,026

Just stupid.

00:47:49,476 --> 00:47:49,896

Xhafer: Okay.

00:47:50,549 --> 00:47:52,379

Cali sign

00:47:52,384 --> 00:47:52,604

Laura: Si.

00:47:55,619 --> 00:47:56,669

Xhafer: Sam Anders.

00:47:57,119 --> 00:47:57,449

Laura: Si.

00:47:59,019 --> 00:47:59,649

Xhafer: Okay.

00:48:00,129 --> 00:48:01,569

And then the final question.

00:48:02,694 --> 00:48:07,979

Do they actually find Earth or is Earth

just the friends they made along the way?

00:48:08,959 --> 00:48:12,643

Laura: I think they're gonna

find Earth and it would be really

00:48:12,643 --> 00:48:14,443

silly if we have like this.

00:48:16,288 --> 00:48:21,043

I, I just, I just feel like there

is the potential for the show to go

00:48:21,043 --> 00:48:25,213

with the, like they find Earth and

actually they are a descendant or.

00:48:25,783 --> 00:48:31,633

Our ancestors and like this is where

we actually came from kind of thing.

00:48:31,633 --> 00:48:34,423

Instead of from Apes.

00:48:35,623 --> 00:48:38,443

Xhafer: Okay, we said 70%.

00:48:39,253 --> 00:48:39,553

Laura: Yeah.

00:48:40,393 --> 00:48:42,163

Xhafer: My pick will remain my own.

00:48:42,835 --> 00:48:43,055

Laura: Aw,

00:48:43,810 --> 00:48:44,140

Xhafer: I'm sorry.

00:48:44,535 --> 00:48:45,275

Laura: I'm so wrong.

00:48:47,825 --> 00:48:48,045

Oh,

00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:50,680

Xhafer: I can't tell

you how close you were.

00:48:52,045 --> 00:48:52,405

Laura: I know.

00:48:54,027 --> 00:48:55,677

Above 50, below 50.

00:48:56,697 --> 00:48:58,047

Xhafer: I'm not going to tell you.

00:48:58,527 --> 00:48:59,787

I'll make the face.

00:49:00,087 --> 00:49:00,117

I

00:49:00,807 --> 00:49:01,197

Laura: Okay.

00:49:02,163 --> 00:49:03,478

Xhafer: mean, you didn't

get everything wrong.

00:49:04,168 --> 00:49:07,948

Laura: I feel like a lot of those

stupids had to have been right.

00:49:08,008 --> 00:49:08,143

I dunno.

00:49:08,869 --> 00:49:14,119

Xhafer: I mean, knowing that at most

there could have been five there, right?

00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:15,529

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:49:15,769 --> 00:49:16,009

Xhafer: Right.

00:49:16,009 --> 00:49:16,219

Yeah.

00:49:16,219 --> 00:49:17,239

7, 12, 5.

00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:17,419

Yeah.

00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:19,189

And most, there could

have been five there.

00:49:19,489 --> 00:49:24,489

So, there were definitely like a lot

more than five names on that list.

00:49:24,489 --> 00:49:26,289

So most of them must have been

00:49:26,544 --> 00:49:27,264

Laura: Stupid.

00:49:27,294 --> 00:49:27,564

Yeah.

00:49:27,564 --> 00:49:28,164

Yeah.

00:49:28,434 --> 00:49:28,824

Okay.

00:49:29,392 --> 00:49:29,842

Well.

00:49:30,487 --> 00:49:34,957

I don't get to choose, I, I maintain that

someday I will get to choose a show for

00:49:35,257 --> 00:49:35,917

Xhafer: I mean,

00:49:36,477 --> 00:49:37,137

Laura: you guys.

00:49:37,257 --> 00:49:41,577

'cause I think at some point

you'll want fresh ideas.

00:49:41,577 --> 00:49:42,057

So,

00:49:42,327 --> 00:49:45,327

Xhafer: I mean, I'd let you choose

anyways if you really want to.

00:49:45,327 --> 00:49:46,017

That's fine.

00:49:46,017 --> 00:49:48,177

I just, I just wanted

to make a game of it.

00:49:48,689 --> 00:49:49,139

Laura: yeah.

00:49:49,319 --> 00:49:49,829

Okay.

00:49:50,279 --> 00:49:54,119

Well, I hope I'm wrong about the

death count, but in a good way.

00:49:54,419 --> 00:49:56,159

But I don't know that that's gonna happen.

00:49:57,434 --> 00:49:58,379

Xhafer: Not gonna tell you.

00:49:59,444 --> 00:50:04,889

Laura: It is gonna be like, there's like

a thousand of them or something left.

00:50:05,129 --> 00:50:05,759

I don't know.

00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:08,819

Oh, I should have picked, I

should have like thought for a

00:50:08,819 --> 00:50:10,439

second about biblical numbers.

00:50:10,439 --> 00:50:14,159

Like what would a biblical number

of people to be left if I really

00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:15,599

believe they're gonna get to earth.

00:50:16,484 --> 00:50:16,574

Xhafer: Hmm.

00:50:16,859 --> 00:50:17,189

Laura: Hmm.

00:50:17,489 --> 00:50:19,169

I don't, I don't know my bible numbers.

00:50:20,744 --> 00:50:22,754

Xhafer: I am the wrong person to ask.

00:50:23,129 --> 00:50:25,259

Laura: I know I should

be texting Ben right now.

00:50:25,469 --> 00:50:26,309

Oh, well it's too late.

00:50:26,309 --> 00:50:27,299

Game's over, so.

00:50:27,870 --> 00:50:28,470

Xhafer: that's fine.

00:50:29,070 --> 00:50:29,700

Laura: Okay.

00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,615

Xhafer: Well, that's a recap.

00:50:31,615 --> 00:50:32,880

Did you have anything

else you wanna talk about?

00:50:34,135 --> 00:50:44,497

Laura: Nah, I just take Guy Altar and

I am concerned about actions coming up

00:50:44,497 --> 00:50:47,947

from probably Ellen Tai, probably SA Tie.

00:50:48,907 --> 00:50:50,737

I want Papa Dominic to

get rid of the mustache.

00:50:50,737 --> 00:50:51,427

I'm sorry, Ryan.

00:50:51,427 --> 00:50:55,966

I don't like it, but I'm really

excited to go into season three.

00:50:56,356 --> 00:51:00,196

I'll get these web episodes knocked out

because it's just one set of web episodes

00:51:00,196 --> 00:51:02,986

right before we can start episode one.

00:51:03,616 --> 00:51:03,886

Okay.

00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:05,689

Looking forward to it.

00:51:06,468 --> 00:51:06,798

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:51:06,798 --> 00:51:10,361

We'll uh, we'll get to

those episodes next.

00:51:10,361 --> 00:51:11,681

Well, in a couple weeks.

00:51:11,681 --> 00:51:12,761

We're taking two weeks off,

00:51:13,046 --> 00:51:14,426

Laura: Okay, we're

taking the two week break

00:51:14,531 --> 00:51:16,361

Xhafer: we're taking two week

break now, and then we'll do

00:51:16,361 --> 00:51:19,931

the resistance episodes and then

we'll do season three episode one.

00:51:20,651 --> 00:51:24,401

Occupation, I think is the name

of it, off the top of my head.

00:51:24,806 --> 00:51:25,286

Laura: Ooh.

00:51:25,496 --> 00:51:28,226

And you don't have a, you can't

tease me with it yet 'cause we've

00:51:28,226 --> 00:51:29,486

gotta get through the episodes,

00:51:29,561 --> 00:51:31,931

Xhafer: I, yeah, I, I mean, I

could look it up and tease you

00:51:31,931 --> 00:51:33,071

with it real quick if you wanted.

00:51:33,386 --> 00:51:34,736

Laura: nah, let's get through the episodes

00:51:34,901 --> 00:51:35,591

Xhafer: do the episodes.

00:51:35,591 --> 00:51:37,541

Yeah, let's, we'll do the episodes first.

00:51:38,081 --> 00:51:40,511

Uh, So we'll be back with the

episodes in a couple of weeks.

00:51:40,911 --> 00:51:47,331

But until then, while we're taking

a couple weeks to frantically record

00:51:47,331 --> 00:51:49,881

so that we have a buffer, because

let's be honest, we're recording

00:51:49,881 --> 00:51:51,111

this three days before it airs.

00:51:51,441 --> 00:51:52,431

Laura: Yeah, sorry, Aaron.

00:51:53,361 --> 00:51:57,111

Xhafer: Everyone in Spoiler town would

know that because they know that I asked

00:51:57,111 --> 00:51:59,301

for these suggestions two hours ago.

00:52:00,621 --> 00:52:01,911

Laura: Hey, spoiler town.

00:52:01,911 --> 00:52:03,021

I'm so proud of you.

00:52:03,021 --> 00:52:04,251

You guys came through.

00:52:04,251 --> 00:52:05,781

These were great questions.

00:52:05,781 --> 00:52:07,371

You did it on a Sunday.

00:52:07,461 --> 00:52:10,401

Bravo, everyone in spoiler town.

00:52:10,851 --> 00:52:11,661

Congrats.

00:52:11,691 --> 00:52:12,351

I salute.

00:52:12,951 --> 00:52:13,191

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:52:13,191 --> 00:52:15,621

Thanks Spoiler town, and

thanks everyone in the Discord.

00:52:15,871 --> 00:52:18,091

If you wanna get in that

discord, you can find the links.

00:52:18,646 --> 00:52:19,336

All over.

00:52:19,636 --> 00:52:23,716

We try to put them everywhere

and we do an okay job of that.

00:52:24,016 --> 00:52:27,736

I don't, if anyone has not found

the discord and you really wanna

00:52:27,736 --> 00:52:29,236

find it, just send us an email.

00:52:29,236 --> 00:52:31,036

Who are you b5@gmail.com.

00:52:31,336 --> 00:52:34,126

I do still check that sometimes.

00:52:34,546 --> 00:52:37,846

I, what I don't check is our Spotify

comments, which I didn't know was

00:52:37,846 --> 00:52:39,496

a thing until a couple days ago.

00:52:39,506 --> 00:52:40,351

Laura: Oh no.

00:52:40,351 --> 00:52:40,981

Are there any.

00:52:41,506 --> 00:52:42,376

Xhafer: There were a handful.

00:52:42,631 --> 00:52:43,111

Laura: Oh no.

00:52:43,486 --> 00:52:44,056

Xhafer: eh, it's fine.

00:52:44,716 --> 00:52:47,176

But if you're listening on Spotify

and you're leaving comments.

00:52:47,896 --> 00:52:51,976

Sorry, I, I didn't know that

was a feature that Spotify had.

00:52:52,156 --> 00:52:52,726